Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[Bitinity]

My hunt ended in the game Wisdom of Athena sucked me up over 31 buy spins without ROI you know this game sucked me in a row lol, I will repeat it next week  because the same thing happened to Starlight Princess until I finally hit the big one.

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.





New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

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[ethereumhunter]

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

I've never played Wisdom of Athena. Maybe next time I'll play it for some time. But you are already lucky to get the best multiplier of 700x, considering @BitcoinHunt3r said the game is very hard. Meanwhile, in Starlight Princess 1000, I couldn't win the game and only used up my balance hahaha

But for Gates of Olumpus, I managed to win a little bit of money, just a little bit, and it didn't really impact me that much. But that's okay because that's gambling. Maybe next time I can get lucky

[tusandii]

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New released slots from Pragmatic this year seems to be not giving good luck, maybe it is better to play older one such as Gates of Olympus, Fruit Party and others. Anyway, there is a pure 15,000x max win Starlight Princess 1000 in Stake today. What a lucky player as he hit it with $1 base bet although we do not know how much the player spent/lost before hitting the max win.

The new slot game released this year is actually quite reliable when you play on the same day the game was released.
For example, the recent Starlight Princess 1000, which was just released recently, has given gamblers enough wins.
A few days ago I tried Starlight Princess 1000 and managed to have several wins with the scatter twice coming out but unfortunately the big multiplier that appears cannot give satisfactory results because there are no fractions.

Try to play in this one game who knows you are also lucky to have a number of decent wins.

[ryzaadit]

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Maybe auto spin for a type slot who have option 1000-5000 auto spin? HAHAHAHA

If he working, Impossible to play it on the work-time. So maybe after 18:00/19:00 and ended in the morning ~XD It's crazy to see 10 hour play straight, even we all know his bankroll only 30$ (small-balance)

But still, his play section are crazy.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

Exactly as I said this game is more difficult than gates of olympus, it looks easier because the multiplier will be accumulated but the reality is not as easy as we imagine. By the way, have you compared regular spins vs buy spins? I tried it several times and regular spin is more profitable for me even I tried it in 2 different casinos the result is almost the same, but when I use the buy feature you know it's a losing streak   I don't know if it was just an unlucky day.

My highest multiplier is 1008x I got it after dozens of buy spins with low ROI overall not enough to cover my losses, I'm not interested in trying this game again maybe a good idea to add this game to the blacklist lol.

[panjul07]

Any of you tried Diamond Cascade by Pragmatic?
This is the first game by Pragmatic that I cant understand, even after reading the game rules but anytime I played it, I cant fully understand it LOL.
I can say that this is the most complicated game by Pragmatic I've tried in my gambling journey for years.
If any of you tried this game and understand it better than me, please share your opinion about this games.
I played it like dumb because I played a game that I dont understand at all 

[Betwrong]

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That's what should be.

However, for the majority of people (even my self, not really want to be a hypocrite) 90% even me are chasing winning ~XD. I played slot at the time on winning situaton (at least my balance up more than 50%), as you know slot is a gambling game are really drain our money.

Maybe other people can combine playing other game, not just slot (to maintennace the loss from slot are not really high at all).

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

[masulum]

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

the most important thing is, when we lose, we must realize that winning is not in our side today. I have a friend who is addicted to playing slot games (not gambling sites), he spends a lot of money for this game, he even has many accounts. When I asked what that number of accounts was for, the answer was "each account has a different results". Meanwhile, in my opinion, this is a thought that has 2 perceptions. can be yes or no. because even though it's not a pure gambling application, my friend always chases the winning, spending a lot of money on this game for his several account. Things like this can happen on gambling sites. One thinks that must be remembered, having multiple accounts can't guarantee achieve different results. In fact, there were also many user losers on all of accounts they have.

[nullama]

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the most important thing is, when we lose, we must realize that winning is not in our side today. I have a friend who is addicted to playing slot games (not gambling sites), he spends a lot of money for this game, he even has many accounts. When I asked what that number of accounts was for, the answer was "each account has a different results". Meanwhile, in my opinion, this is a thought that has 2 perceptions. can be yes or no. because even though it's not a pure gambling application, my friend always chases the winning, spending a lot of money on this game for his several account. Things like this can happen on gambling sites. One thinks that must be remembered, having multiple accounts can't guarantee achieve different results. In fact, there were also many user losers on all of accounts they have.

  that clearly means he has lost overall in all those accounts, but some have been a bit better than others.

It's human nature to try to keep the losses to ourselves, and boast about the wins. It's typical in gamblers.

[tusandii]

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That's what should be.

However, for the majority of people (even my self, not really want to be a hypocrite) 90% even me are chasing winning ~XD. I played slot at the time on winning situaton (at least my balance up more than 50%), as you know slot is a gambling game are really drain our money.

Maybe other people can combine playing other game, not just slot (to maintennace the loss from slot are not really high at all).

All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

Isn't chasing victory and also chasing defeat the same thing but has a different meaning?
Both of these actions carry the risk of losing overall money because by chasing victory a gambler will be more optimistic and ignore the risks that make him continue to gamble until the goal of winning is achieved, sometimes when a win has been obtained there is still a greater desire to win again it's the same as when you're chasing losses that you get.
What we need to realize is that slot games are one of the games that can spend money very quickly because each bet is based on one round, just like roulette, so when playing slot games every gambler must be able to have a money limit so that they don't go too deep when losing.
Every mistake there is a lesson that can be taken so as not to repeat it again and not all gamblers can learn from their mistakes but only continue to pursue what has become a goal or desire.

[Bitinity]

I have stopped trying Wisdom of Athena, I tried it many times too but no luck for me to hit nice multiplier. It proofs that even if the game has 5,000x max win and has the same RTP as others but the chance to hit max win is lower. My best multiplier in Wisdom of Athena is 700x only from the base bet while my best multiplier in Starlight Princess 1000 is less than 600x.

Exactly as I said this game is more difficult than gates of olympus, it looks easier because the multiplier will be accumulated but the reality is not as easy as we imagine. By the way, have you compared regular spins vs buy spins? I tried it several times and regular spin is more profitable for me even I tried it in 2 different casinos the result is almost the same, but when I use the buy feature you know it's a losing streak   I don't know if it was just an unlucky day.

My highest multiplier is 1008x I got it after dozens of buy spins with low ROI overall not enough to cover my losses, I'm not interested in trying this game again maybe a good idea to add this game to the blacklist lol.

Have you tried Forge of Olympus? I just tried it with 6 bonus buy @60k IDR each and here are the best results:

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/1jfrlCC60b
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/X9XiXBIi7i
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/tJqjitD4oo
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/3oZOZ9bZdi

These 4 rounds started with 6 scatters which gave me instant money back from what I spent to buy the bonus and gave me 20 free spins (few with additional 5 free spins). But the final were all bad, not single one gave me 2x return lol. I can say it is even worse than Wisdom of Athena, multiplier rare to come and it is hard to level up for bigger minimum multiplier. Let me know your result if you have tried it.

[mu_enrico]

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

[serjent05]

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

Yeah, that is what also feel like watching streams playing pragmatic games.  They also have a wager bonus-themed slots where I see a streamer loses 7x in a row wagering for the number of spins.  It is an instant rekt for that streamer.  And watching those types of streams makes me avoid games from Pragmatic play.  Aside from that I also watched a series of bonus buys from Pragmatic resulting in  5x up to 50x base bet results.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Have you tried Forge of Olympus? I just tried it with 6 bonus buy @60k IDR each and here are the best results:

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/1jfrlCC60b
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/X9XiXBIi7i
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/tJqjitD4oo
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/3oZOZ9bZdi

These 4 rounds started with 6 scatters which gave me instant money back from what I spent to buy the bonus and gave me 20 free spins (few with additional 5 free spins). But the final were all bad, not single one gave me 2x return lol. I can say it is even worse than Wisdom of Athena, multiplier rare to come and it is hard to level up for bigger minimum multiplier. Let me know your result if you have tried it.

Of course I tried it last Saturday after claiming my weekly bonus but I just tried it a few times because I got a good multiplier at the start, I haven't even increased my bet yet but got it. You know I always start with the lowest bets on a new game then increase if I lose, I tried with the buy feature on level 2 multiplier offers starting from x8 - x100 and and I get x1300 multiplier. here if you want to watch. Actually this is not a new concept because last year Pragmatic released a game with the same concept Santa's Great Gifts 99% similar only different in theme. Honestly sometimes this game is boring, it's hard to get a multiplier when you play it too much especially if you buy high level.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

I don't know much about RTP but generally RTP is related to the max multiplier for example a new game with x10000 - x15000 multiplier then the RTP will be lower, if there is a new game with max multiplier x5000 but low RTP (96.25) usually this game offers level features like in this game we can buy several levels to increase the multiplier. In the screenshot below there is a little explanation how RTP works in this game so 96.25% is not a fixed RTP, please correct me if I'm wrong because I also want to know more.

[Betwrong]

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the most important thing is, when we lose, we must realize that winning is not in our side today. I have a friend who is addicted to playing slot games (not gambling sites), he spends a lot of money for this game, he even has many accounts. When I asked what that number of accounts was for, the answer was "each account has a different results". Meanwhile, in my opinion, this is a thought that has 2 perceptions. can be yes or no. because even though it's not a pure gambling application, my friend always chases the winning, spending a lot of money on this game for his several account. Things like this can happen on gambling sites. One thinks that must be remembered, having multiple accounts can't guarantee achieve different results. In fact, there were also many user losers on all of accounts they have.

Your friend is a typical gambling addict and his belief that "each account has a different results" only confirms that. Gambling addicts have a lot of crazy theories, and it's just one of them. But from your post I cant grasp where's he playing slots, because if it's land-based casinos, what does "many accounts" mean then?

~ All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

Isn't chasing victory and also chasing defeat the same thing but has a different meaning?
Both of these actions carry the risk of losing overall money because by chasing victory a gambler will be more optimistic and ignore the risks that make him continue to gamble until the goal of winning is achieved, sometimes when a win has been obtained there is still a greater desire to win again it's the same as when you're chasing losses that you get.
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Chasing victory and chasing defeat ain't the same thing. When you are chasing victory you can stop any time, while when you are chasing your losses you don't want stop until you recover. But it may never happen so you are losing more and more until you lose everything. That's why chasing your losses is advised against by many on this forum.

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

What I don't like is 96.25% RTP, it deviates from the usual (old) 96.5% RTP of Pragmatic games... The new releases from Pragmatic also have lower RTPs than 96.5%, sad! These providers are getting greedy!

But aren't deviations by fractions of percent irrelevant to us gamblers? How many times we have to play a particular to feel the difference? I think it's many millions, but do you think you can feel it right away?

[mu_enrico]

I don't know much about RTP but generally RTP is related to the max multiplier for example a new game with x10000 - x15000 multiplier then the RTP will be lower

Not really, 10,000x+ games usually have higher RTP in the past, for example, White Rabbit from BTG, or Swords and Grail from PnG (Swogerino's favorite game lol).

if there is a new game with max multiplier x5000 but low RTP (96.25) usually this game offers level features like in this game we can buy several levels to increase the multiplier. In the screenshot below there is a little explanation how RTP works in this game so 96.25% is not a fixed RTP, please correct me if I'm wrong because I also want to know more.

Yeah, this game has multiple RTPs, it has more options than the older common Pragmatic slots which are only ante bet (double chance feature) spin and bonus buy. So it would be best to play 200x bonus buy since it has the highest RTP.

If we only do normal spin, it's fixed to 96.25%... What kind of bonus round we get in the normal spin doesn't matter. The RTP varies only for ante bets and bonus buys.

But aren't deviations by fractions of percent irrelevant to us gamblers? How many times we have to play a particular to feel the difference? I think it's many millions, but do you think you can feel it right away?

In my previous poll (Enhanced RTP Slots, Your Experience (with Poll))
People can't feel the difference even with a 1.5% RTP margin. So 0.25% RTP margin won't have any effect on our playing experience... BUT if you look at percentages differently, let's say you have two options, (1) to do surgery with a 99.75% success rate, with 0.25% of failure (or death), or (2) to do surgery with a 100% success rate. I bet you will choose option (2)

People also say that winning a lottery only has a 1/292 million chance, but if you win, it's 100% for you...

[tusandii]

~ All of us are "chasing winning" when playing slots. And that's normal. We all want to win. What we shouldn't do is chasing our losses. That's when problems start to appear: when you want to win back what you recently lost. Of course, I was doing this same mistake, and not once, in the past, but the key to know for sure that it's a mistake and try to avoid it.

Isn't chasing victory and also chasing defeat the same thing but has a different meaning?
Both of these actions carry the risk of losing overall money because by chasing victory a gambler will be more optimistic and ignore the risks that make him continue to gamble until the goal of winning is achieved, sometimes when a win has been obtained there is still a greater desire to win again it's the same as when you're chasing losses that you get.
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Chasing victory and chasing defeat ain't the same thing. When you are chasing victory you can stop any time, while when you are chasing your losses you don't want stop until you recover. But it may never happen so you are losing more and more until you lose everything. That's why chasing your losses is advised against by many on this forum.

Try to understand well I will repeat again.
In fact, both of them have the same meaning, namely chasing to get more money, it's just that the difference is that when chasing a loss, you may not get a profit, but some money as a replacement or refund for the previous money that has been lost, chasing a win you can get a number of benefits because the winnings can be greater than the money at stake.
However, both of them have a large bankruptcy risk, therefore it is not recommended to do either of these things.

After all, why chase defeat or chase victory, whereas in gambling, especially slot games, it is very much influenced by luck if you can win.
Will it chase luck? certainly not because everyone can't bring good luck and luck comes suddenly without anyone noticing it.

[masulum]

Your friend is a typical gambling addict and his belief that "each account has a different results" only confirms that. Gambling addicts have a lot of crazy theories, and it's just one of them. But from your post I cant grasp where's he playing slots, because if it's land-based casinos, what does "many accounts" mean then?

What I mean "many accounts" is "multiple accounts", I chose the wrong word.
I don't know whether this can be proven or not, I just know if he always focused on playing on his cellphone with a lot of account, of course hoping to win even from one of his account. To chasing this, he often forgets to sleep at night, in order to get a good room (I think this is a myth among users). But, it can't be helped, that his habit, I can only listen to him. Because giving him advice is not working anymore. 

[nullama]

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What I mean "many accounts" is "multiple accounts", I chose the wrong word.
I don't know whether this can be proven or not, I just know if he always focused on playing on his cellphone with a lot of account, of course hoping to win even from one of his account. To chasing this, he often forgets to sleep at night, in order to get a good room (I think this is a myth among users). But, it can't be helped, that his habit, I can only listen to him. Because giving him advice is not working anymore. 

When I read "a good room" I realized this is a person that believes in superstitions, so it's clear that they will end up losing all their money if they keep doing this.

There are many people that believe in superstition but ignore the math and probabilities behind gambling.

[Bitinity]

Have you tried Forge of Olympus?

Good game, I thought it was another Gates/Starlight rehash, but they offer level-up and the multipliers don't stack on the new rounds.
This is a game that kinda feels medium volatility, with longer gameplay on the bonus round.

I thought the same when I read the name, I thought it is just another redesigned game of Gate of Olympus but we were wrong. Here is my best after so many tries:



Replay to watch https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/kbNxabVHUE, but dont waste your time to watch because this round has 70 free spins . 70 rounds but it failed to reach the 3rd level, -1 hammer with so many free spins remaining. The one that make it a bit big is because there was a win win 100x multiplier but almost 80% of the 70 free spins were dead spins.