Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[Bitinity]

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I tend to agree but only when you have at least 200-500 dollars to spend and rather than playing buying the bonus because I have tried Money Train 3 after all the hype when it first came out and played more than 2500 spins without getting the bonus round,so I doubt the buy bonus is higher than 250x in almost every game that offers this buy bonus feature although I don't recall it correctly know how much it is.My argument is that you need to test the buy bonus at least 20-25 times and if just only one of these hits you like let's say x40000 or more you will be in a great profit considering the initial amount you played,so you are correct in such game is better to directly try your luck with the buy bonus feature.

No need to have hundred dollars for it imo, it is too much for me to spend in slot games. Even if I have under $200, I will still prefer to play with buy bonus than playing with normal spins in such extreme volatility slots. The highest buy bonus feature in MT3 (the one with 1 guaranteed persistent symbol) is 500x of the basebet if I remember it correctly. Testing buy bonus in slot games 20-25x is just too much if you ask me especially if you are talking about continuous try, I will never do it. My max continuous buy bonus is limited to 10x, I will stop playing after the 10th try regardless the result of all the buy bonus. 

[serjent05]

Almost a clear grid on goldent ticket.  It is Saturday and the weekly bonus of Stake.com is up after claiming it I played slots to have some fun.  I got this result from playing today, if this is Moon Princess I could have gotten the clear grid bonus.
In case of golden ticket 2 this could also be a grid clear bonus.

[Bitinity]

Pragmatic has just released a new game "Fury of Odin Megaways", this new game allows up to 15,000x. An uncommon max winning by pragmatic as most of their new games are limited to 5,000x only. The question is, how hard to win 15,000x in this new game? Will it be something like "impossible" to reach like Sweet Bonanza or it will have higher chance to win the max win like other games with 5,000x max win?



I tried it with demo mode and I can say that it is a modification of Power of Thor Megaways. A game with increased multiplier for every win in the free spins and a special wild expanding symbol. I tried 20 bonus buy and the result is really bad, the best payout was 6x only or 600x from the base bet.

[mu_enrico]

By the way, there's an interesting comment by @BitcoinPanther on my other thread, and I think it will be best to bring the discussion here.

Speaking of Rollbit, what do you think about its new feature?  We know they implemented the clan where members can put fund on the treasury of the clan and the authorized member can gamble it and fund participant can get their winnings depending on the percentage of his fund from the pool.  Now, they implement a side bet  where we can bet on the possible outcome of our slot spin.  Here is the video[1] streamed by AyeZee to show how it works.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQ8fVhC-g4

So what do you guys think? Aside from the Bonus Battle, this side bet and the clan feature is unique, only on Rollbit. But not sure what happened, today I can't find the side bet feature, maybe maintenance?

[Bitinity]

this side bet and the clan feature is unique, only on Rollbit. But not sure what happened, today I can't find the side bet feature, maybe maintenance?

As long as I know this feature is not yet launched officially as it is still listed as "Coming Soon"



Ayezee is known as one of gambling streamer and maybe he is also paid streamer in Rollbit and he got an early access for this feature before rollbit launched it publicly to all players. I'm not really sure how this feature will work, but I cant deny that it is a unique feature. It can be a new trend and maybe other casinos will follow this move.

[seleme]

By the way, there's an interesting comment by @BitcoinPanther on my other thread, and I think it will be best to bring the discussion here.

Speaking of Rollbit, what do you think about its new feature?  We know they implemented the clan where members can put fund on the treasury of the clan and the authorized member can gamble it and fund participant can get their winnings depending on the percentage of his fund from the pool.  Now, they implement a side bet  where we can bet on the possible outcome of our slot spin.  Here is the video[1] streamed by AyeZee to show how it works.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQ8fVhC-g4

So what do you guys think? Aside from the Bonus Battle, this side bet and the clan feature is unique, only on Rollbit. But not sure what happened, today I can't find the side bet feature, maybe maintenance?

Looks cool, surely after Rollbit other casinos will follow this trend.
BTW, anyone tried new enhanced RTP Pragmatic slots?
Dog Mansion or Sweet Fiesta paid me 10x b2b on bonus buys, can't get same result on regular slots usually.

[swogerino]

By the way, there's an interesting comment by @BitcoinPanther on my other thread, and I think it will be best to bring the discussion here.

Speaking of Rollbit, what do you think about its new feature?  We know they implemented the clan where members can put fund on the treasury of the clan and the authorized member can gamble it and fund participant can get their winnings depending on the percentage of his fund from the pool.  Now, they implement a side bet  where we can bet on the possible outcome of our slot spin.  Here is the video[1] streamed by AyeZee to show how it works.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQ8fVhC-g4

So what do you guys think? Aside from the Bonus Battle, this side bet and the clan feature is unique, only on Rollbit. But not sure what happened, today I can't find the side bet feature, maybe maintenance?

Looks cool, surely after Rollbit other casinos will follow this trend.
BTW, anyone tried new enhanced RTP Pragmatic slots?
Dog Mansion or Sweet Fiesta paid me 10x b2b on bonus buys, can't get same result on regular slots usually.

I wanted to post a new thread about the corruption of Play n Go where in many other gambling forums they are being accused of people seeing other people playing and winning the bonus often while other people not getting it after thousand spins,this same has happened to me lately in almost every casino,I think personally they should be banned as compared to other providers they are far away now with their stupid changeable RTP.

Pragmatic at least keeps you playing much longer even if you don't get the bonus round you play much longer which means they give you good returns even in the base game.I tried their new games and the one I like the most is Santa Great Gifts which is one of the many successful slots they have done like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonanza etc,this slot just follows this trend.

[serjent05]

I wanted to post a new thread about the corruption of Play n Go where in many other gambling forums they are being accused of people seeing other people playing and winning the bonus often while other people not getting it after thousand spins,this same has happened to me lately in almost every casino,I think personally they should be banned as compared to other providers they are far away now with their stupid changeable RTP.

I do not know if I am the only one experienced this kind of change whenever I shifted to another currency.  Often times I got lots of deadspin when spinning in USD, but I got a good result when my currency is in Euro.  Then when I selected JPY, I am having a hard time getting the bonus round but when I do it pays huge.  I experience this kind of thing several times already.  I don't know why this thing happen since I do not have any idea how these currency changes affect the RTP of the game.

So I am thinking, it has something to do with the currency we are playing at. 

Pragmatic at least keeps you playing much longer even if you don't get the bonus round you play much longer which means they give you good returns even in the base game.I tried their new games and the one I like the most is Santa Great Gifts which is one of the many successful slots they have done like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonanza etc,this slot just follows this trend.

Don't have anything to sy here since I don't have access to Pragmatic Play since it is unavailable in my country.  Btw, I happen to watch WatchGamesTV regularly and it seems he is unlucky with Pragmatic Play when he is accessing the game in his hometown, while he got lucky when he is in another place.

[mu_enrico]

BTW, anyone tried new enhanced RTP Pragmatic slots?
Dog Mansion or Sweet Fiesta paid me 10x b2b on bonus buys, can't get same result on regular slots usually.

No luck for me, hardly notice any difference compared to the regular RTP one.

I wanted to post a new thread about the corruption of Play n Go where in many other gambling forums they are being accused of people seeing other people playing and winning the bonus often while other people not getting it after thousand spins,this same has happened to me lately in almost every casino,I think personally they should be banned as compared to other providers they are far away now with their stupid changeable RTP.

That's the problem for centralized 3rd party slots. There's nothing we can do except trust the provider that they are fair. It's difficult to get proof of this "corruption" as well since you don't know if the result is rigged, or you just have bad luck. I personally didn't feel they cheated based on my results, I even mostly won from PnG title compared to the shitty Pragmatic Play in the last 60 days. I play mostly:
- Perfect Gems
- Frozen Gems
- Tome of Madness

I do not know if I am the only one experienced this kind of change whenever I shifted to another currency.  Often times I got lots of deadspin when spinning in USD, but I got a good result when my currency is in Euro.  Then when I selected JPY, I am having a hard time getting the bonus round but when I do it pays huge.  I experience this kind of thing several times already.  I don't know why this thing happen since I do not have any idea how these currency changes affect the RTP of the game.

I did this trick as well, switching between currencies. What I suspect was different currencies have different "seeds" so you basically like refreshing the seeds on hash games. When you have a good "seed," you'll notice better luck. But that's unpredictable and in the end, still random.

[swogerino]

The problem is it is happening in a lot of trusted casinos so it must be something with PnG provider.I know that Pragmatic gives you rare wins but at a much huge multiplier that is why I have shifted my idea to play their slots,maybe what I experience is only in slots that gives you up to x100 multiplier as I only like that kind of slots from PnG provider,I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

[Strongkored]

I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

I haven't even tried it because I usually go straight to the basic settings from the casino, namely USD, maybe I'll try it later because today it didn't produce anything after playing big bass blizzard Christmast catch at stake casino, I only like the graphics of this slot but don't like the results I get because I don't get a multiplier greater than 90x after playing some time.

[ryzaadit]

The question is, how hard to win 15,000x in this new game? Will it be something like "impossible" to reach like Sweet Bonanza or it will have higher chance to win the max win like other games with 5,000x max win?

In-case of "Sweet-bonanza" there is no single proof, someone can reach the max-win. Probaly from my perspective can't be design to get the max win, we all know most of pragmatic play game 90% have rigged code (Like, easy pattern if we get max win or no).

However, If you looking a slot from Pragmatic Play who can be reached maximum win more than 5,000x. You should tried to play and see "Emerald King Rainbow", it's already being tested with everyone on youtube as well.

There has some proof, we can reached maximum win 20,000x multiplier.

[swogerino]

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck  .

[Peanutswar]

I don't know what to say about the currency change but most likely I am going to try it as soon as the World Cup finishes because I am getting only wins so far by betting in this event so not really playing slots up until when this events end or maybe just small amount to play slots,not my 100-200 dollars which is my usual amount weekly.

I haven't even tried it because I usually go straight to the basic settings from the casino, namely USD, maybe I'll try it later because today it didn't produce anything after playing big bass blizzard Christmast catch at stake casino, I only like the graphics of this slot but don't like the results I get because I don't get a multiplier greater than 90x after playing some time.

Some people prefer then use of other currencies beside from.yhe USD because its more convenient to them to make a cash out with the lower transaction fees which is very prefer too at the same time but aside from that in my perspective it's easier to navigate the amount of bet used to so it's calculated how.much dollars I.will spend in playing slot games. $500 is enough for me to play even though I'm rarely playing so having a lot more chance to get more profit than my capital.

[BitcoinPanther]

That's the problem for centralized 3rd party slots. There's nothing we can do except trust the provider that they are fair. It's difficult to get proof of this "corruption" as well since you don't know if the result is rigged, or you just have bad luck. I personally didn't feel they cheated based on my results, I even mostly won from PnG title compared to the shitty Pragmatic Play in the last 60 days. I play mostly:
- Perfect Gems
- Frozen Gems
- Tome of Madness

I tried this three games, my experience is that Tome of Madness is great, often got to bonus part with just a few spins at the beginning but as the game progresses, lots of dead spin and baiting happens.  Just like I missed 1 symbols of 42 symbols needed (with 3 or more books on the screen) to get to the  Other World free round (before the Mega Wild Cthulhu) and while on the Other World free round, the book keep on landing on the same space.  But still the overall experience of Tome of Madness is great just don't stick with the game too long or it will end up draining your balance.

I have not got any good experience with Perfect Gems and Frozen gems. It rarely tumbles and often times in Frozen Gems activitating the reel will often times give us unnecessary symbols but if they RTP they pay good.

[Bitinity]

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck  .

Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling?  It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

[mu_enrico]

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck  .

Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling?  It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

LMAO, that's why no casino has good reviews on reviews platforms, it is mostly filled with butthurt players
When everything is good (translated as a win), the game is fair, and the casino is legit...
When everything is bad, people then scream "scam, scam!"

In-case of "Sweet-bonanza" there is no single proof, someone can reach the max-win. Probaly from my perspective can't be design to get the max win, we all know most of pragmatic play game 90% have rigged code (Like, easy pattern if we get max win or no).

IMO it's also a gambling fallacy when you see a 500x multiplier drop on Olympus/Starlight and think that "This is it!" "It's happening!" etc., when in reality I often got shitty results from this kind of tumble. The code isn't "rigged" in the sense that this max-win event is predictable, even at the free spin with multiple 500x+ multipliers. Ideally, the highest recorded multiplier came from the simulation, so if they say 20,000x is the max win, then it is... (if you trust the provider). The problem is, the higher the max win, the rarer it become... It can happen one in x years (if people still play the game), so if the game is not popular then we won't see the max win.

[Wapfika]

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck  .

Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling?  It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

Is there any possible accusation on slot that can be backed by solid proof? No matter how rigged the slot based on the actual result. We can still accused them for anything because they will just the RTP as an excused for the low winning ratio. Slots don’t disclosed there code that’s why only trust is makes provider reputable.

I’m curious if there’s a slot provider that use an open source code to verifying if they are offering probably fair game.

[ryzaadit]

IMO it's also a gambling fallacy when you see a 500x multiplier drop on Olympus/Starlight and think that "This is it!" "It's happening!" etc., when in reality I often got shitty results from this kind of tumble. The code isn't "rigged" in the sense that this max-win event is predictable, even at the free spin with multiple 500x+ multipliers.

From my perspective, they just have a bad code comparing the competitor just like rigged ~XD.

However, another reason why they have a bad code compared to other competitors it's. A situation from Youtuber who got Max-Win on Fruity Party on normal spin but the required 3 hours to finish that because he keeps getting the same 5 Fruit over & over again. I think you already know this right.

IMO, that's a weird situation.

[lionheart78]

I think I have to retire my accusations here as I played a couple of days ago the Green Knight slot from Play n Go and it gave the bonus round a lot,truly a lot of times,I even managed to hit that x100 multiplier several times and won about 200 dollars with the lowest bet of 0.10,I won several times over x200 of my bet during the x100 multiplier and I was surprised to see how things changed so fast after me writing my experiences not only here but also in some other places,I guess it has nothing to do with corruption but only with luck  .

Even if you did not get better result after you wrote your accusation, you should never accuse something without any valid proof as it is called by baseless accusation. I would even say that you had funny accusation because you accuse Play n Go as corrupted because some others people win while some others lose while playing Play n Go, isn't it something very normal in gambling?  It sounds like that you were just so jealous because some other players won but you lose, and your jealousy lead you into more negative thinking for the provider.

Speaking of Play N' Go I had a very lucky streak today @Tome of Madness, see the image below:



So lucky, it is seldom to see such a layout of the symbols, 5 books, and 1 wild didn't hit any LOL.  Play 'N Go is really corrupt dude!  ! How the hell did that 6 wilds don't hit anything?  LOL.  Just kidding anyway, this one has a high live RTP of 103.46% and yet six wilds failed to hit the 42 symbols in order to get to the Other World round.  Such a lucky day.