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January 29, 2023, 07:18:53 PM
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Some time ago I tried to play slots out of curiosity and have never been able to profit from slots.
Because I'm not really interested in slot games, I just do regular spins with the lowest nominal of about 30 spins and I experience a loss there, even if it's just a little. Then I try to buy free spins and get 15 spins.
From there I can get back my previous losses and still have some profit left.
What I want to question is whether it is true that the method or strategy of doing ordinary and detrimental spins first is only then we can get the jackpot from slot games.

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January 29, 2023, 07:43:03 PM
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What I want to question is whether it is true that the method or strategy of doing ordinary and detrimental spins first is only then we can get the jackpot from slot games.

No, the strategy of playing ordinary and detrimental spins first does not guarantee a jackpot in slot games. I think the idea of playing ordinary or detrimental spins first is a myth because it has no impact on the outcome of the game.  Remember, slots is a game that has random result or result and each spin outcome is completely independent of previous spins.  It is said that the odds of hitting jackpot do not changes based on the order of spins or strategy on the type of spins we play.

Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?

Haven't tried to play in a slot that has a low RTP  so I do not have an idea on it works or how it has the advantage over the higher RTP slots but I believe slot games are a form of gambling and the outcome is determined by chance, not the RTP value.

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January 29, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
RTP is not a guarantee in my opinion, what is clear from every game there is big luck. and that's just a collection of the percentage of members who play the most. If you rely on playing one game and playing for a long time, your balance will only go up and down, the more money you have, I always change slots

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January 29, 2023, 08:52:15 PM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
RTP is not a guarantee in my opinion, what is clear from every game there is big luck. and that's just a collection of the percentage of members who play the most. If you rely on playing one game and playing for a long time, your balance will only go up and down, the more money you have, I always change slots

True RTP is explained as the percentage of all bets placed on a slot machine or other casino game that is expected to be paid back to players over time.  So I do not find any connection between the result of playing in low RTP and the chance to trigger huge bonuses.  I also believe slots' result is all random and independent from each other, just like @lionheart78 stated, the result in slots is somehow connected to the chance, not to the RTP value.

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January 30, 2023, 05:03:07 AM
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Very interesting reading people’s thoughts about slot machines and how to try and beat the system. I’m sure there must be some merit to things being discussed but if it were possible to beat the house I think it would be more well known. The truth is that slots are controlled by the house and they can all be set at different payout levels. In the end though, the simple truth is that the house always wins.

The house wins in the long term.

That's the key thing here, having the illusion that the gambler can win because from time to time the gambler does win, but the whole system is designed to keep people playing as much as possible.

In the long term the odds are against the gambler, so if they keep playing, they will inevitably lose.

But, if you happen to win big once, and quit gambling after that one rare event, then the gambler would have won. This rarely happen though, because the odds are against the gambler, and once they win, they want to continue gambling, until they lose it all.

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January 30, 2023, 11:48:50 AM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
RTP is not a guarantee in my opinion, what is clear from every game there is big luck. and that's just a collection of the percentage of members who play the most. If you rely on playing one game and playing for a long time, your balance will only go up and down, the more money you have, I always change slots

True RTP is explained as the percentage of all bets placed on a slot machine or other casino game that is expected to be paid back to players over time.  So I do not find any connection between the result of playing in low RTP and the chance to trigger huge bonuses.  I also believe slots' result is all random and independent from each other, just like @lionheart78 stated, the result in slots is somehow connected to the chance, not to the RTP value.
personal experience following the results of the RTP that I applied turned out to be the same. but when i play random slots with a new account there are a lot of hidden treasures. The point is that every slot game has the potential for big prizes but what we don't know. RTP is only from the marketing part of attracting people to play

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January 30, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
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Very interesting reading people’s thoughts about slot machines and how to try and beat the system. I’m sure there must be some merit to things being discussed but if it were possible to beat the house I think it would be more well known. The truth is that slots are controlled by the house and they can all be set at different payout levels. In the end though, the simple truth is that the house always wins.

The house wins in the long term.

That's the key thing here, having the illusion that the gambler can win because from time to time the gambler does win, but the whole system is designed to keep people playing as much as possible.

In the long term the odds are against the gambler, so if they keep playing, they will inevitably lose.

But, if you happen to win big once, and quit gambling after that one rare event, then the gambler would have won. This rarely happen though, because the odds are against the gambler, and once they win, they want to continue gambling, until they lose it all.

That is the sad part.Even when a gambler wins really big amounts they think to themselves finally I beat the game and they quit,take the money and call it a day.The gambler stays happy for a day or two but soon after he starts to feel that need and urge to gamble again in order for him to repeat that moment of glory where he won that huge amount,it is exactly this moment that is the worse for a gambler as when they try to repeat it they do it several times but without being able to and as such loses are catastrophic in the long term.Unfortunately as of today there is no real remedy to this.

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January 31, 2023, 05:39:33 AM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
You confused (theoretical) RTP with volatility, RTP is related to the "tax/fees rate" or House Edge (HE). Low RTP slots mean that it has high HE, so you'll lose money quicker than high RTP slots. So always pick high (theoretical) RTP slots.

Meanwhile, volatility is related to winning a small amount, more often, vs. winning a big amount, but rare.

Or do you mean theoretical RTP vs Live RTP? In this case, yes there's a strategy to play on low Live RTP slots, which are slots that basically are in the "cold" state. It hasn't produced good results lately so you bet on the reversal.

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January 31, 2023, 08:48:46 AM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
RTP is not a guarantee in my opinion, what is clear from every game there is big luck. and that's just a collection of the percentage of members who play the most. If you rely on playing one game and playing for a long time, your balance will only go up and down, the more money you have, I always change slots
This is true because RTP is just a description for me so I don't have to think about it for too long. Some slot games, for example, have a high RTP but will not guarantee we will win. He needs to find a slot game that he can enjoy playing so he won't think about the RTP because once he has found that slot game, he will play it more often and won't move to other slot games. I've experienced it myself Grin

Playing many slot games can help him find which games can comfort him.

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February 01, 2023, 10:06:57 PM
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personal experience following the results of the RTP that I applied turned out to be the same. but when i play random slots with a new account there are a lot of hidden treasures.

Others call it "beginner's luck" since the system read you as a new player, they said that beginner's luck in playing slots is a myth, but I also noticed that new accounts have a high percentage of triggering bonuses and winning huge amounts.  Experienced it while playing @ rollbit, it was too easy to get 500+x in my first session but now I experience 20 consecutive dead spins and oftentimes 10 or more.

This is true because RTP is just a description for me so I don't have to think about it for too long. Some slot games, for example, have a high RTP but will not guarantee we will win. He needs to find a slot game that he can enjoy playing so he won't think about the RTP because once he has found that slot game, he will play it more often and won't move to other slot games. I've experienced it myself Grin

Playing many slot games can help him find which games can comfort him.

I stopped thinking about RTP too and just play the game.  After all result in slots is random thinking of RTP and playing based on it will possibly disappoint us. I got losses on high RTP games and have some good winnings on the lower one.

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February 01, 2023, 10:35:37 PM
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I stopped thinking about RTP too and just play the game.  After all result in slots is random thinking of RTP and playing based on it will possibly disappoint us. I got losses on high RTP games and have some good winnings on the lower one.

When I was playing slot a lot few years ago, I did not even care about RTP. I used to play random games by moving from one slot to other slots but I had my own favorite slots to play obviously. I started to think about RTP when I noticed some games from No Limit City with dual set up RTP. Normal one and the DX1 (lower RTP). Since I did like to participate in multiplier contest, I use RTP information more than before which is part of my strategy to maximize the chance of getting high multiplier but with the best RTP.

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February 02, 2023, 11:05:48 AM
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to be honest I haven't been too long in a new Slot game for a few months and after I saw from the experience of several other members who shared max wins on Slots and got a multiplier of 500x and above, I have a question.
will the 500x multiplier drop after a few hundred spins ? I mean is there a certain limit to spawn 500x on Slots? for example 200 new spins will come out.
because usually in a few months I play slots, I never stand in just one game, but I often change places when I get a little profit.
and to be honest from my experience the biggest was just the 100x multiplier that came out a few days ago.
anyone please share your knowledge about my question.

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February 02, 2023, 04:03:50 PM
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This is true because RTP is just a description for me so I don't have to think about it for too long. Some slot games, for example, have a high RTP but will not guarantee we will win. He needs to find a slot game that he can enjoy playing so he won't think about the RTP because once he has found that slot game, he will play it more often and won't move to other slot games. I've experienced it myself Grin

Playing many slot games can help him find which games can comfort him.

I stopped thinking about RTP too and just play the game.  After all result in slots is random thinking of RTP and playing based on it will possibly disappoint us. I got losses on high RTP games and have some good winnings on the lower one.
Finally, you know what to do when gambling. Thinking about and looking for a gambling game with a high RTP will not guarantee us a profit and you have made the right decision to just play the game without thinking about the RTP. It looks like your luck will come your way more often when you play low RTP games, so keep going. Who knows, if we do it like that, we will get lucky and win big wins and we will continue to use that game because it has become our favorite.

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Even Zeus trolling nowadays😅
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Damn that huge multipliers flew away just like our dream to become rich lol
Thanks mate for the entertainment! Much appreciated.
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February 02, 2023, 09:24:02 PM
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Some time ago I tried to play slots out of curiosity and have never been able to profit from slots.
Because I'm not really interested in slot games, I just do regular spins with the lowest nominal of about 30 spins and I experience a loss there, even if it's just a little. Then I try to buy free spins and get 15 spins.
From there I can get back my previous losses and still have some profit left.
What I want to question is whether it is true that the method or strategy of doing ordinary and detrimental spins first is only then we can get the jackpot from slot games.
Slots by design are made as complete money burners. I have won a couple gamea of slots but not so much to cover my losses, because they literally rig these systems to not be probabilistic and always favor the house. And for good reason too coz the entry price for slots are immensely cheap compared to other casino games. No real strategy can win you a game of slots. Techniques like not pulling the lever all th way down, etc are all but placebos made by people who won big in these games. Of course those won't work because if they do we'd have a sea of people who are winning from slots alreafy.

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February 02, 2023, 10:54:21 PM
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I stopped thinking about RTP too and just play the game.  After all result in slots is random thinking of RTP and playing based on it will possibly disappoint us. I got losses on high RTP games and have some good winnings on the lower one.

When I was playing slot a lot few years ago, I did not even care about RTP. I used to play random games by moving from one slot to other slots but I had my own favorite slots to play obviously. I started to think about RTP when I noticed some games from No Limit City with dual set up RTP. Normal one and the DX1 (lower RTP). Since I did like to participate in multiplier contest, I use RTP information more than before which is part of my strategy to maximize the chance of getting high multiplier but with the best RTP.

Same here I have list of slots that I normally play and when I got some amount fo winnings, I try other slots providers game like testing the water if I am lucky or not or if the bonus round can be easily triggered just by some less than hundred spins.

While I really don't look at the RTP even when I am participating in any event.  Thanks for telling me your strategy I might be trying to do that if I happen to participate in any multiplier contest.

Some time ago I tried to play slots out of curiosity and have never been able to profit from slots.
Because I'm not really interested in slot games, I just do regular spins with the lowest nominal of about 30 spins and I experience a loss there, even if it's just a little. Then I try to buy free spins and get 15 spins.
From there I can get back my previous losses and still have some profit left.
What I want to question is whether it is true that the method or strategy of doing ordinary and detrimental spins first is only then we can get the jackpot from slot games.
Slots by design are made as complete money burners. I have won a couple gamea of slots but not so much to cover my losses, because they literally rig these systems to not be probabilistic and always favor the house. And for good reason too coz the entry price for slots are immensely cheap compared to other casino games. No real strategy can win you a game of slots. Techniques like not pulling the lever all th way down, etc are all but placebos made by people who won big in these games. Of course those won't work because if they do we'd have a sea of people who are winning from slots alreafy.

There is one strategy to win in slots, and that is quitting while in green and keeping a check of the winnings and losses to minimize the losses at least.  Though I agree that players tend to lose in the long run, why do a long run when we can just sprint and stop while winning?

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February 03, 2023, 12:19:04 AM
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Even Zeus trolling nowadays😅
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/33QgCCsIIs
Damn that huge multipliers flew away just like our dream to become rich lol
Thanks mate for the entertainment! Much appreciated.
Hope you enjoy watching this one too 😄
The sister slot of Gates made it worse, at least Zeus had paid 300x without big multi combinations but Starlight Christmas straight trolled on high level :
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/dUWmg7b8Dm

This is crazy trolling obviously, how come those many huge multipliers failed to land. I played both Zeus and Princess a lot but never experienced something like this. Maybe I'd have thrown my phone away if I experience like you have experienced lol. Is this a new style in Pragmatic? I'm quite sure I've bought free spins thousands time in these 2 games, but my worst was when I caught 1000+ total multiplier but the result was no more than 200x.

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February 03, 2023, 08:48:54 AM
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I feels bad for this one.

100-500x always drop multiple-time. In Zeus Slot these pattern is always referring to max-win because the highest multiplier is keep dropping. Are they fixed these kind of pattern in the newest slot?

I punch my table, If this happened to me ~LOL.

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February 04, 2023, 01:00:38 PM
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Anyone here using the reverse RTP hunt. I read this online that some user having a good profit on playing with slot that has a low RTP. They are just hunting big win and avoid the small profit that common on high RTP games.

Anyone here using this and manage to have a good profit in the multiple trial for this strategy. Is this even better than buying bonus buy feature?
You confused (theoretical) RTP with volatility, RTP is related to the "tax/fees rate" or House Edge (HE). Low RTP slots mean that it has high HE, so you'll lose money quicker than high RTP slots. So always pick high (theoretical) RTP slots.

Meanwhile, volatility is related to winning a small amount, more often, vs. winning a big amount, but rare.

Or do you mean theoretical RTP vs Live RTP? In this case, yes there's a strategy to play on low Live RTP slots, which are slots that basically are in the "cold" state. It hasn't produced good results lately so you bet on the reversal.

Yeah, I meant those slot games that provides almost zero return for a long time then hunt for the big win because according to what I read, This slot games usually reward big since it didn’t gave back too much rewards to the player due to it’s low RTP state.

I definitely confused the use of RTP but I’m pointing out the slots that doesn’t bring back too often rewards to the players which means they can provide huge win once a user manage to hit the sweet spot for the jackpot.

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February 04, 2023, 05:28:07 PM
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Even Zeus trolling nowadays😅
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/33QgCCsIIs
Damn that huge multipliers flew away just like our dream to become rich lol
Thanks mate for the entertainment! Much appreciated.
Hope you enjoy watching this one too 😄
The sister slot of Gates made it worse, at least Zeus had paid 300x without big multi combinations but Starlight Christmas straight trolled on high level :
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/dUWmg7b8Dm
If you can hit 300x or higher, you will win a lot of money. But unfortunately, you can't hit it, and I wonder why it can come out so many times, but you can't hit even one big one. But then again, that's gambling, and maybe it's true. You just weren't lucky at that point. Hopefully, you can be luckier next time and get a big win. I support you bro Grin
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