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May 20, 2020, 03:09:43 PM
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I know many of you’ll will be pissed at the title, but before you vent your ire just have a look at the tweet and then decide for yourself. According to the tweet the wallet was dormant since 2009, but suddenly today bitcoins stored in the wallet have been moved so can anyone study this and confirm if it’s actually satoshis wallet, or this is another fud attempt and we should not pay any attention to it?.

Source:

https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1263120977849978880

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May 20, 2020, 03:24:40 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2020, 04:03:16 PM by franky1
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not satoshi


atleast 10 people were mining in february
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the bock in question is using the 'not satoshi pattern

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May 20, 2020, 03:26:15 PM
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I don't want to click the link, can you just post the txid or a link to blockchair?

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May 20, 2020, 03:29:37 PM
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There was a flash crash on Bitstamp just now:


https://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD

Who tf panic sold because of this? Damn weak hands  Grin

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May 20, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
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I noticed this also, its pretty early miner. I don't imagine that back in February 2009 there was many people involved in bitcoin. Maybe it was Hal Finney's family members who have access to those private keys. I remember a year back or two someone from Hal Finney's family moved some BTC that belonged to the first transaction between Hal and Satoshi.

This was Hal Finney's BTC address,

1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

This was when coins were moved from this wallet back in 2017,

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/70ec308460a38f6de25f89c6ed84bf68160c27834f13d17d5a713602e3a4786b

So if anything I think its just Hal Finney's coins being moved by his family.

The market isn't really reacting in a bad way, so if the market was convinced it was Satoshi it would of tanked probably at least +>$1000 by now. Maybe people with more experience can investigate further.
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May 20, 2020, 03:30:20 PM
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I don't want to click the link, can you just post the txid or a link to blockchair?


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh




coins were made in feb of 2009 sat idle until today.

It is possible some one  has been tossing random keys for years  with a lot of pc/hashpower and hit a long shot.

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May 20, 2020, 03:31:56 PM
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I don't want to click the link, can you just post the txid or a link to blockchair?
the spend today:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cb1440c787d8a46977886405a34da89939e1b04907f567bf182ef27ce53a8d71

the initial input in 2009
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f38d6f043c070ce9805ee81f46db4d32d0c9f148d62bbfbc0378bc5847c7dc70

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May 20, 2020, 03:37:34 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2020, 04:00:22 PM by philipma1957
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This was block number 3654


this link shows  blocks 3621 to 3700


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/blocks?page=12549

It would be interesting to check the status of these 80 blocks.

3621 was moved in 2015
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17t6mqu7C7m9b3i2nsZD3GbJkk7Zf9G5CW

3653 untouched

3654 moved today https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh

3655 untouched

3656 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16hA7GTgPvwwQQiYLKoifmpf4i41zcZfMF
3657 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12Mo25FhMY9Z378vksvbNS9qYtKd3todNS

3658 untouched
3659 untouched

3660 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1F1njnLEnoCsm69bSdY3MRkeXytbBPDSkb

3661 untouched

3662 was moved in 2013
 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JjoRz995zpFY1QNTa8vnTxssWZXQPwVQu

3663 untouched
3664 untouched

3665 was moved in 2011
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BjpESo9nYoqLUp58YoqsnGSyHJYNqp9T9
 
3666 untouched
3667 untouched
3668 untouched

3669 was moved in 2013
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/198y3FQrgb1QNhCRo9EWnTB2ddc4vyH61a

3670 was moved in 2011
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JZFZDBVDt38QE3NQeVKLLhdrGbzXBcyz6



so  some of these blocks have been moved.

the market won't crash over this and only morons would panic sell.

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May 20, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
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There was a flash crash on Bitstamp just now:


https://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD

Who tf panic sold because of this? Damn weak hands  Grin

I can feel the panic in the air, let's see how long it takes to bitcoin to go down to 9k, i would say it will take less than 6h but we will see.

even if those are not satoshi coins, that miner could be a risk for the whales. That's why we will see some crazy moves today.

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Still in question "doubt".
Nobody can say it's official from @Satoshi.

Try to see this person's conversation.



No one is sure it is "Satoshi', maybe or not.what is clear is that more and more people are saying something to "Satoshi he is getting lost and far away, for the moment there is nothing that I have officially found about Satoshi, either on twitter, the media etc.
It all ends in nonsense, at the end the question 'is that Satoshi'. Lol.

I see the shipping address.

17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh

Almost all countries talk about this shipment from "Satoshi".
But none of them stated it was official from Satoshi, doubt.
example:

[Spanish]= https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249874.0

[Germani]= https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249873.0

[Economics]= https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249865.0

[Rusian]= https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130455.msg54468262#msg54468262

At the end of the story, is it shipping from 'satoshi.

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May 20, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
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This was block number 3654


this link shows  blocks 3621 to 3700


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/blocks?page=12549

It would be interesting to check the status of these 80 blocks.

3621 was moved in 2015
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17t6mqu7C7m9b3i2nsZD3GbJkk7Zf9G5CW

3653 untouched

3654 moved today https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh

3655 untouched

3656 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/16hA7GTgPvwwQQiYLKoifmpf4i41zcZfMF
3657 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12Mo25FhMY9Z378vksvbNS9qYtKd3todNS

3658 untouched
3659 untouched

3660 moved in 2011 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1F1njnLEnoCsm69bSdY3MRkeXytbBPDSkb

3661 untouched

3662 was moved in 2013
 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JjoRz995zpFY1QNTa8vnTxssWZXQPwVQu

3663 untouched
3664 untouched

3665 was moved in 2011
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BjpESo9nYoqLUp58YoqsnGSyHJYNqp9T9
 
3666 untouched
3667 untouched
3668 untouched

3669 was moved in 2013
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/198y3FQrgb1QNhCRo9EWnTB2ddc4vyH61a

3670 was moved in 2011
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JZFZDBVDt38QE3NQeVKLLhdrGbzXBcyz6



so  some of these blocks have been moved.

the market won't crash over this and only morons would panic sell.


Looked at multiple blocks from 3621 to 3700  we had action in 2015  which is supposed to be after satoshi  vanished

so this is not a big deal.

Keeping looking for more block movement from blocks 1 to 5000

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May 20, 2020, 04:26:24 PM
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Who tf panic sold because of this? Damn weak hands  Grin

it may not look like it but a lot of idiots have been following this nonsense called "whale alert" and have been panic selling for things that don't make any sense compared to their latest nonsense Cheesy
BTW i wouldn't call 2%-3% a "flash crash".

There is a FOMO brewing...
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May 20, 2020, 04:49:02 PM
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Those this indicate that satoshi is alive? Because 2009 is such a long time for anyone to leave there coins without touching it, this is a bit strange though,  whomever is the owner this wallet have to wait this long before moving their coins, if not satoshi then who!
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May 20, 2020, 04:57:15 PM
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The articles has published an hour ago on cointelegraph. According to them their is 3 possible candidates who would be owner of this address- Satoshi, Hal Fenny & Martti Malmi. Who know if they aren't not alive and this address is controlled by someone from their family? My personal opinion is, there is huge possibility that this address owner is satoshi.


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May 20, 2020, 05:01:55 PM
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My personal opinion is, there is huge possibility that this address owner is satoshi.

Your personal opinion is a huge possibility? What is huge? 1/3 .. 1/10?

Its already shown that the block wasn't mined by satoshis main-miner. Makes it more unlikely it is satoshi himself. Its more likely (in my opinion Wink ) that its someone who has done a well timed move and don't need that coins - means he has access to much more BTC. One of the few early miners ... Coins from the same miner were moved already in the past in 2011 and 2015 (thats after satoshi dissappeared)
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May 20, 2020, 05:11:03 PM
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I see, I was thinking what was the reason behind the faster fall. I have seen this in other thread too and I guess someone initially mined bitcoin has got access of their wallet. Otherwise, they would move back in 2017. Nevertheless, 50 BTC tx mustn't be a reason of panic selling. C'mon bitcoiners.

I don't want to click the link, can you just post the txid or a link to blockchair?
No one linked a blockchair link- https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/cb1440c787d8a46977886405a34da89939e1b04907f567bf182ef27ce53a8d71
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May 20, 2020, 05:15:56 PM
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I found a strange message in the Internet Archive a few days back, was kinda strange message...

" POORTMOLEN AT THE HOSPITAL CAPELLE AAN DEN IJSSEL NETHERLANDS RECEPTIONISTENS PEOPLE AND MR.ED FOUNDED 9.8 M. BTC WITE PAPER  BTC ADRES +PRIVATE KEY TAKED THE INFORMATION FROM SATOSHI AT 24-02-2020 3-4 VISITS AT THE COMPUTER  ROOM FINDED!26 FEBRUARY AND 27 FEBRUARY THERE FOR WHALE TRANSFER 863Miljoen and 418m HTC transfer there for! "

https://archive.org/details/satoshinakamoto1

Could this have something to do whit this all?



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May 20, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
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It wasn't Martti : https://twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/1263159959602298886?s=20

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May 20, 2020, 06:05:11 PM
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Well while interesting it is not a big deal.  Blocks in the 3621 to 3700 range like this one were moved in 2015.

By 2015 Satoshi was vanished so did he move block 3621 In 2015?

Maybe  he did move it.


Maybe someone  with a lot of hash power hit the key.  I know hitting a key is hard.  In theory 10,000 threadripper 3970x would need thousands of years to hit it.

Or has someone come up with a faster way to crack a key?

If they simply got lucky and hit a key via brute force with a large pc setup.  It won't be happening anytime soon again.
If they have a better way to crack keys  and can crack wallets quickly  we will soon find out.

Most likely this is Satoshi or a relative of the early miners.

Seems to me If I could make blocks with ease  Like was done back in 2009 I would have hid away a few dozen blocks on unknown pc's.  Just so I could do this type of action today.


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May 20, 2020, 06:17:40 PM
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If they simply got lucky and hit a key via brute force with a large pc setup.  It won't be happening anytime soon again.


Wat?

If somebody brute forced this, then that means they can brute force an earlier block too.

How can you guarantee it won't happen anytime soon again?

This block (3654) is only 1 month old. I'd say this is either satoshi, or Craig is about to make a comeback.

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