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June 24, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
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Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

I do not know about that, in order to reach a professional league like the NBA you need not only to be incredibly talented and driven you need to also be very competitive, so I think regardless of the presence of the public the players are going to play with everything they have, however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.

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June 24, 2020, 11:40:33 PM
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however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.

If I may ask, we are talking about the NBA game here, am I right?
Then there is not home court advantage for this league when they resume because it's not played in a usual court.

here's the venue

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The 2019-20 restart is contingent on an agreement with The Walt Disney Company to use Walt Disney World Resort near Orlando, Fla., as a single site for a campus for all games, practices and housing for the remainder of the season.

https://www.nba.com/nba-returns-2020-faq

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June 25, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
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I personally feel that home advantage would differ from sport to sport basically because in a sport like cricket for example, the weather and the pitch is best suited for home team and no matter if crowd is there or not it would be more suitable for home team while in a sport like NBA where the only advantage it seems is crowd in such situations I believe the home team advantage would be significant reduced while still maintaining it by a thin margin because the away team has to travel and get used to with the place and psychologically players are used to of it because of playing for so many years.

Although like e-sports there is no home advantage or anything soon the sports would become like that too apart from a few sports like cricket where the actual pitch supports players and native/home team.

Speaking of cricket, I heard England vs West Indies cricket series will begin from 8th July so happy to see some real sports back along with UFC action Wink.

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July 01, 2020, 06:42:49 PM
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It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.
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July 01, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
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It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

There would be changes but it would really be just minimal and you're right where winning would always matter on players performance even though several factors
had been changed due to this current situation we are into but it doesnt mean that it will really be a big or major problem to them.Some might see this issue as a general
one but basing of numbers it wont really be that much yet players can play neither they are in home or away. People can just say that they are on advantage since
people or crowd do cheer up and help out some boost in terms of emotion but overall this is just too small to consider.

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It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

There would be changes but it would really be just minimal and you're right where winning would always matter on players performance even though several factors
had been changed due to this current situation we are into but it doesnt mean that it will really be a big or major problem to them.Some might see this issue as a general
one but basing of numbers it wont really be that much yet players can play neither they are in home or away. People can just say that they are on advantage since
people or crowd do cheer up and help out some boost in terms of emotion but overall this is just too small to consider.

how do you know that the effect is small . are you a player before and you already play on different courts  ? we cant say the effect is minimal but you can it depends on the player  because not all player the same   . maybe some players audience is thier advantage but others avoid that mentality because they know that they can play on other courts too  . when you play on other courts , sometimes your supporters can go there because its too far away , same as playing with no audience  .
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July 02, 2020, 01:27:23 PM
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I've just watched the majority of the NRL Rugby League game Melbourne Storm Vs the Sydney Roosters - an electric game played in Brisbane at Lang Park (I know the area very well).  With the partial easing of Covid restrictions there were more than a few people in The Cauldron evenly spaced out in rows.  While Sydney is 1,000+ Klms away and Melbourne more than another 1,000 Klms again there was no "Home Court" advantage as such with the game going into Golden Point and finishing 27-25 after an increasingly electrifying second half.

Although the game was played in Queensland, the spectators cheering seemed to be evenly matched, so it was hard to tell one way or the other if there was any "home court advantage".

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I've just watched the majority of the NRL Rugby League game Melbourne Storm Vs the Sydney Roosters - an electric game played in Brisbane at Lang Park (I know the area very well).  With the partial easing of Covid restrictions there were more than a few people in The Cauldron evenly spaced out in rows.  While Sydney is 1,000+ Klms away and Melbourne more than another 1,000 Klms again there was no "Home Court" advantage as such with the game going into Golden Point and finishing 27-25 after an increasingly electrifying second half.

Although the game was played in Queensland, the spectators cheering seemed to be evenly matched, so it was hard to tell one way or the other if there was any "home court advantage".

Yes, that is hard to tell but on the other hand players are aware that there is no live audience so feeling isn't the same and thus sport doesn't have its full purpose
All kinds of sports also entered into this new normal but I'm not sure I like that. I hope that sooner or later we'lll get back to real normal, as it was before.

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Yes, that is hard to tell but on the other hand players are aware that there is no live audience so feeling isn't the same and thus sport doesn't have its full purpose
All kinds of sports also entered into this new normal but I'm not sure I like that. I hope that sooner or later we'lll get back to real normal, as it was before.

The Brisbane Broncos Rugby League team have now lost six in a row even though they have the "home town" advantage against the southern teams that are billeted here in Queensland Hotels while Victoria is in lockdown.  It's quite likely that they are going to loose one, two or even three more games in a row.  I don't know any sites that I can put a bet on - they are playing the Sydney Bulldogs tomorrow night, so it's odds on the Broncos will loose.

(Lang Park is playing to 25% spectator capacity and I think there is talk of going up to 50% spectator capacity in the next few weeks)

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July 10, 2020, 11:26:06 AM
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Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

I do not know about that, in order to reach a professional league like the NBA you need not only to be incredibly talented and driven you need to also be very competitive, so I think regardless of the presence of the public the players are going to play with everything they have, however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.
Absolutely,NBA players are very distinct and they were chosen in Highly manners because the competition to enter the League is really extra ordinary.

Our countrymen tries more often to at least get inside but only few got the chance even that our country is one of the most competitive in terms of basketball.



But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .









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But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .

It was not lessened, but it was completely eliminated as NBA is not played in a certain team's home court but it's played in a different venue which is in Walt Disney World in Orlando, and they will all share in the same venue. No more fans also as it's a close door match and fans can only watch them on live television.

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It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

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July 10, 2020, 01:40:48 PM
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Yes of course, there is no a better place than home. This means that it is also applicable to every venue of a sports.  Support is very important in every game. This is a way to motivate players and to get more strength on the people rhat are believing in them especially in basketball.

This is why when it comes to betting I do believe that when a strong team plays in their court then betting on them would be at high advantage. I had been into betting in NBA and most of the time I win because my bet always on the winning team or the strong team.
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July 10, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
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It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

It would still takes time because  they wont give out statistics basing of on few games and percentage basis will be good to look at or be relevant if it would show same numbers on what being shown in op.I can  say that this isnt really that much of a concern because  if we do base up on their gaps when still is everything in normal then the difference isnt really that much  or only a small margin.Hence,
it wont really be that needed to be concerned about and even I doesnt really see for it be relevant.

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July 10, 2020, 03:17:25 PM
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But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .

It was not lessened, but it was completely eliminated as NBA is not played in a certain team's home court but it's played in a different venue which is in Walt Disney World in Orlando, and they will all share in the same venue. No more fans also as it's a close door match and fans can only watch them on live television.

Agree that home court and support from the fans really boost the players before. Have you watch sports anime, some players suddenly becomes strong again because of a support from the audience lol. However, I also think that athletes can really play with their best even without it. They may not be familiar with it for the first few games but I think they will still continue giving their best this upcoming season. They all are playing in the same venue and will be comfortable with it after some games. I just hope no one will be infected throughout the season cause it can cancel the whole league again.

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July 10, 2020, 03:29:37 PM
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Yes of course, there is no a better place than home. This means that it is also applicable to every venue of a sports.  Support is very important in every game. This is a way to motivate players and to get more strength on the people rhat are believing in them especially in basketball.

This is why when it comes to betting I do believe that when a strong team plays in their court then betting on them would be at high advantage. I had been into betting in NBA and most of the time I win because my bet always on the winning team or the strong team.
AFAIK, there's a new arrangement for the reopening of the NBA regarding the courts they will use.

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its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal

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We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

It would still takes time because  they wont give out statistics basing of on few games and percentage basis will be good to look at or be relevant if it would show same numbers on what being shown in op.I can  say that this isnt really that much of a concern because  if we do base up on their gaps when still is everything in normal then the difference isnt really that much  or only a small margin.Hence,
it wont really be that needed to be concerned about and even I doesnt really see for it be relevant.

If those data can be a good input, I think the staff will consider using for another review, or they can use another protocol that is not too strict as before because they can handle the situation at the stadium. Maybe it's only a small margin, but we still need to have as much data as we can to determine what step we need to take in this pandemic. The staff needs hard work to make sure everything goes well because that is related to people's lives.

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July 11, 2020, 07:49:47 AM
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its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal
1. Travelling is always part of those teams that are visiting the home court of their opponent so I don't think that they feel sucks whenever they travel. Before, first of all, it's their job and they understand the give and take for homecourt for each team.
2. I don't understand this but they won't travel just exact before the game so they have time to rest.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I saw the strategy of La liga where they put virtual audience in the stands as a substitute for the a live audience. Well for me that is a strange tactic and if the main objective is to give a semblance of a normal match with fans and all then I would say I am not that convinced that it will give an impact because the players know that there are no fans in the stadium. If there are at least real people being projected then that might help but I am not sure if that is what it is so I can never tell. All I know is the mentality of the players knowing that there are no people present even if they hear the cheer voices and see the virtual audience.

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