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June 06, 2020, 02:32:29 PM
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It seems there is no end to this pandemic in near future so the world is getting ready to live with that, almost every country starts doing the same, they are trying to being back all their economic activities so they can get back their income as well.But every individual should be careful because still there is no cure found we are just asked by the government to go on our own risk.
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June 06, 2020, 02:52:36 PM
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Their President really dont mind killing off some people as log as the business continue to run. What dissapointing is those people that are doing this does not really care at all whether they could be contracted with coronavirus.

Gamblers or not, people there in US dont believe on pandemic and continue to refuse the best effective way of cutting the cases.

Whether they like it or not they are the one also contributed to this mess so hopefully they will not turn an inch of despair when they have been victimized by so called pandemic. Gambling activity will not be killed, even after few years but whats it worth if people keep dying on it due to the virus.
You don't have to include the President in this matter they have a different form of governance and most likely the opening of these casinos applies only within the state of Nevada.

As per this news https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/clark-county-reports-133-new-covid-19-cases-no-new-deaths the state are in its downward trend of infectious rate.
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June 06, 2020, 02:56:24 PM
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I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.
This.

We have to face reality: we'll all be infected with this virus at some point, so herd immunity is really going to claim the least number of lives. The consequences of running a lockdown for many consecutive months are way, way harsher than going for herd immunity.

Casinos reopening will actually help herd immunity happen faster. Let those who don't want to take risks sit at home and those who assume the risk gamble. But keeping everything closed down will only delay the occurring events. Some people are in a very bad depression and willing to join some entertaining activities to forget about all the crap that's happened in the past six months. I believe it's a smart, although already kinda late, move to reopen casinos and other entertainment POIs.

Part of the high-risk category of people that are prone to the virus lethality will unfortunately die from a vaccine secondary effects or from .. herd immunity at some point. It's about the possibility of dying from a virus vs the ensurance of claiming many, many lives from the adverse effects of lockdowns.
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June 06, 2020, 03:05:07 PM
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Just because Las Vegas has opened the pandemic has ended, we are still in the pandemic and those who ignore this will suffer the consequences,
if business as usual in Las Vegas they should be strict in the protocols and they should have am adequate hospital facility,for those who will get infected, countries are locking down to minimized those who are going to be infected, because the health facility will not keep up if the numbers goes up.

Las Vegas is multi billion dollar business so I believe they have a complete hospital facility and first class too, they can keep up with the number. 
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June 06, 2020, 03:09:01 PM
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If you try to tell them what is right, they will just say it is their freedom to do so.  Grin

Let them die but don't let them out that casino.
I am a gambler but because of the pandemic, I have to find new ways to do it.
My life is still important than my hobby and there are so many options now.
Why force it to be in a casino if all of their games can be done online.
Yeah, the excitement might not be the same. But, is the excitement of knowing you will probably die out there more satisfying?  Grin

This is so wrong.
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June 06, 2020, 03:34:52 PM
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Let them die but don't let them out that casino.
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This is so wrong.
Read these two parts out loud again because most of you who say these things don't even realize how fascist you guys sound - and then call out somebody who simply wants to have a little bit of entertainment for how wrong it is! Grin

Considering I have family members who are now out of money and food because the unemployment caused by the virus, would you say the same? Let them die but don't let them out that house because you better die of ensured poverty & hunger than possibly dying from the virus? Because going to work or visiting a casino isn't much of a difference, is it.. I mean, with gambling you even have a chance to make your situation better financially while having a bit of fun too! Moreover, you can go there and earn a buck without having to be employed at all!

Here's the thing: if I want to visit a casino and play there and assume the risk of dying while you want to stay barricaded at home without ever interacting with a human again, why should I be enforced into a lockdown because you think it's dangerous to be outside and gamble? I mean, before 2020 I never knew my own government (or other strangers that never even got to know about my existence) took this much care of me and my life as if I was a little baby..

Yeah, the excitement might not be the same. But, is the excitement of knowing you will probably die out there more satisfying?  Grin
Some people voluntarily join the army and go to a war consciously knowing the risk out there is very high. Read the statement I quoted above from you once again and put it into the context of a voluntary soldier who wants to go to war. Since when does everyone care about what kind of risks I or others are willing to take..? It's you who thinks it's dangerous to be out in the nature, not me!
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June 06, 2020, 04:00:51 PM
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It seems there is no end to this pandemic in near future so the world is getting ready to live with that, almost every country starts doing the same, they are trying to being back all their economic activities so they can get back their income as well.But every individual should be careful because still there is no cure found we are just asked by the government to go on our own risk.

If people are keeping on being a stubborn person, the chance of being infected is really high for them. It is not that hard to follow the instruction of the government on how to prevent the spread of this Covid-19, they are just violating those rules and regulations.

No matter how careful you are in your surroundings, the virus are still unpredictable and you can't see it with your naked eye. This Las Vegas Casinos should not allow people that can make the casino crowded and make people unsafe.

Physical casinos should not operate no matter what is the situation in a certain place, unless, there is already a vaccine that can make you immune to the virus.

As far as I can see, it will take more years to have a vaccine that will make us safe from this vaccine.
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June 06, 2020, 04:06:37 PM
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From my point of view, maybe the reasons why Las Vegas Casinos have started to open, so they could save their business or to help their workers to have a source of income again. But it is still inappropriate for Las Vegas Casinos to reopen because it could cause more trouble if more people will get infected by the virus.

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June 06, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
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I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.
I understand the desire to go back to normal as soon as possible but at the same time this needs to be done in a smart way, even if a casino tries to impose sanitary measures on their customers it is obvious that many are not going to respect them and this can be really problematic especially in a country like the United States which is still one of the major focuses of the pandemic, I'm not really sure how they're going to deal with this when the number of the new cases is still very high.
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June 06, 2020, 05:06:29 PM
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It seems there is no end to this pandemic in near future so the world is getting ready to live with that, almost every country starts doing the same, they are trying to being back all their economic activities so they can get back their income as well.But every individual should be careful because still there is no cure found we are just asked by the government to go on our own risk.

This is good news as well with the opening up it is more responsibility now with every individual to take care of them self and remain safe. As the cases are will continue to increase till we do not have vaccine and things are opening in order to give boost to economy and not that it is safe to outside.

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June 06, 2020, 05:18:34 PM
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It seems there is no end to this pandemic in near future so the world is getting ready to live with that, almost every country starts doing the same, they are trying to being back all their economic activities so they can get back their income as well.But every individual should be careful because still there is no cure found we are just asked by the government to go on our own risk.

This is good news as well with the opening up it is more responsibility now with every individual to take care of them self and remain safe. As the cases are will continue to increase till we do not have vaccine and things are opening in order to give boost to economy and not that it is safe to outside.

Boosting economy is just for government to show to the other government about how they are right now while there is covid. We'll see how their economy will be if the coronavirus will affect more of these population that goes there to visit Vegas. I hope it really won't get worse so good luck to the mayor who had been very persistence to reopen her business.


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June 06, 2020, 05:27:14 PM
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This is like double-edge sword, we need to go back normal for the  economical problem raised because of the pandemic but on the other side we need to remain safe from the virus.
Some countries are trying to implement NEW NORMAL activity but still with some limitation.
In this case for gambling purpose, I cant agree to see land based casino will be opened soon especially if the number of infected people is still increasing day by day.
I do believe people is still afraid to go to public area especially for entertainment purpose only.

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June 06, 2020, 05:44:09 PM
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Yeah, the excitement might not be the same. But, is the excitement of knowing you will probably die out there more satisfying?  Grin
Some people voluntarily join the army and go to a war consciously knowing the risk out there is very high. Read the statement I quoted above from you once again and put it into the context of a voluntary soldier who wants to go to war. Since when does everyone care about what kind of risks I or others are willing to take..? It's you who thinks it's dangerous to be out in the nature, not me!

I basically agree with your reasoning

As it may turn out that the quarantine killed more people than the virus would kill without it (read, it is a complex matter). However, I don't agree with your analogy of a soldier knowingly risking his life in combat. What is wrong in your example is that the soldier risks his life and no one else's (if we discard the "other" party, of course). With the virus, on the other hand, this is no longer the case. If you get infected, you may unwittingly spread the disease among quite a lot of people, and thus you risk not only your own life (which is your choice, all in all) but also the lives of other people (which is, surprisingly, not yours anymore)

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June 06, 2020, 05:44:33 PM
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I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.
Yeah,,,No way to deny that due to corona virus overall situation is getting worse day by day. Lock down is just an attempt to buy some time to get the proper vaccine but i don't think we will get that soon. Hiding away from covid19 is nothing but a try to put the number of infected people lower where IMO its not gonna work for a long pandemic circle.

 


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June 06, 2020, 07:24:38 PM
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who do not believe this outbreak must be infected first...
I actively see on Twitter about how many people don't care about this outbreak again, the nightly entertainment that starts opening, even the casino that will open soon, I have no problem with the casino being re-opened but the casino owner must provide the players with a mask, gloves, and hand-sanitizer to avoid contracting and transmitting.



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June 06, 2020, 07:31:44 PM
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It seems there is no end to this pandemic in near future so the world is getting ready to live with that, almost every country starts doing the same, they are trying to being back all their economic activities so they can get back their income as well.But every individual should be careful because still there is no cure found we are just asked by the government to go on our own risk.

If people are keeping on being a stubborn person, the chance of being infected is really high for them. It is not that hard to follow the instruction of the government on how to prevent the spread of this Covid-19, they are just violating those rules and regulations.

No matter how careful you are in your surroundings, the virus are still unpredictable and you can't see it with your naked eye. This Las Vegas Casinos should not allow people that can make the casino crowded and make people unsafe.

Physical casinos should not operate no matter what is the situation in a certain place, unless, there is already a vaccine that can make you immune to the virus.

As far as I can see, it will take more years to have a vaccine that will make us safe from this vaccine.
Not everyone got savings to sit in their house for more than 100 days that is why they are going for work even if they know it is risky and they are risking their life to survive and feed their family. Government says wear mask and practice social distancing when the number was in few hundreds but now in millions they want all those economy activities back into them which is literally shows that they don't care about people.
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June 06, 2020, 07:37:57 PM
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I am getting skeptical about this. I understand that gamblers are getting impatient, after staying at home for many months now. But the situation is not getting any better. Even within the United States, tens of thousands are getting infected every day. At this point, even the suggestion to open casinos is going to be a big blunder. We need to take the situation seriously.
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June 06, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
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I don't get it, what happened with USA? I mean the virus is still going on, people are still dying, and yes the numbers could be looking better but they had over 100 thousand people dead. That is all the wars combined in the past 100 or so years for them and they still didn't care and now Las Vegas opens and more importantly there are riots everywhere in the country and people are basically in a civil war type of situation where they are pretty close to each other.

I don't get it, why would they want to have something like this when the consequences is tens of thousands of death? I get it there is business to be made at Vegas and without starting back open eventually, they will have a failing economy that will hurt both business owners but also workers too, but starting back up so soon, just because of money reasons, in face of death? That sounds a bit too extreme capitalist.

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June 06, 2020, 07:47:16 PM
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I guess we all knew that Las Vegas casinos were planning to open soon, but how many of you’ll actually thought that they would be opening it so soon? because I’m shocked that they have opened it as the number of corona cases are rising only.

Furthermore flights to Las Vegas are already full, and people are coming in large numbers to play out there, hence I’m sincerely praying that no one gets infected while playing out there.

Though they have set up various safety measures, but I’m not sure what their protocol will be if it’s found that an infected person played out there, will they be forced to shut down their casinos, or will it be business as usual for them?.

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https://q13fox.com/2020/06/04/after-historic-casino-closure-gambling-returns-to-las-vegas/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/graphic-tracking-coronavirus-infections-us/

This is good news for some gamblers and casino workers(probably) but bad news for medical staffs since it will surely further increase the infected people even with safety measured implemented which I doubt tourists will fully follow. also knowing that the flight are already full in the midst of this pandemic there are still a lot of people(mostly privilege, spoiled and ignorant) are not taking this crisis seriously.

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June 06, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
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I don't get it, why would they want to have something like this when the consequences is tens of thousands of death? I get it there is business to be made at Vegas and without starting back open eventually, they will have a failing economy that will hurt both business owners but also workers too, but starting back up so soon, just because of money reasons, in face of death? That sounds a bit too extreme capitalist

Hopefully, I can explain that to you

To begin with, it doesn't have anything to do with extreme, cut-throat capitalism (or any ~ism, for that matter). Basically, it's a matter of pure stats. The number of confirmed cases in the States seems to be around 2M people at the moment. Given that most healthy individuals are likely to pull through even without knowing that they had gotten the coronavirus (no symptoms), it is not unreasonable to assume that 1) the quarantine has been mostly useless anyway, and 2) the virus has essentially run its course. There'll be second waves, third waves, etc, but they will become less and less severe as more and more people recover and develop immunity. Put simply, there are only so many people to get the disease

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