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June 19, 2020, 02:58:56 AM
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It's kind of surprising and also isn't it? I mean a lot of businesses are starting to open again here and there. They're just implementing strict regulations but still, just like you, i'm pretty doubtful of it actually being that effective in preventing the spread of the virus. If compared to gambling, it's like your forced to use your hand even though you know you're going to lose 100% and it's because you played right into the hands of your enemy.

The recent places we have heard ease the lockdown came back and suffer a great loss because of going against the government instructions. The right thing should be done as pointed out by many to avoid the plaque of second wave. Though those actions seem right to the business owners and their employees but not minding the repercussions that will follow after. In my opinion, life is worth than giving the whole golds and silvers without enjoy any. Covid-19 is real and we should "stay home and stay safe".
It's a moral dilemma tbh, they have a choice, to die of hunger or to die of the virus. The health regulations released outside like the social distancing one, the limited business operations is actually just band-aid measures so that the countries economy would start back up. Covid-19 is real yes, and so is hunger. A lot of people out there suffer from poverty and honestly, dying of the Virus or dying of hunger, which has higher chances of surviving right?

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June 19, 2020, 07:31:29 AM
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Looks like Las Vegas are heading for a second wave.

If the incubation time is around 14 days and they just re-opened last week, then we should start seeing a new wave emerging in the next few days.

I don't really get how you could possibly implement safety measures in a place like this. People seem to forget that you don't actually need to be near someone who has the virus to contract it. You just need to be in close proximity to the objects and places they were in contact with—e.g. the table or slot machine they were playing at.

If people want to go there and risk death, then good riddance, people are dumb af.
the second wave is the most worried...
On my social media homepage, a lot of news emerged that raised the issue of Beijing City again to lockdown due to the second wave of corona outbreaks. our concern is the most important thing right now, casinos can become one of the dens of the spread of corona disease if casino owners do not pay attention to health protocols set by the government.



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June 19, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
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Looks like Las Vegas are heading for a second wave.

If the incubation time is around 14 days and they just re-opened last week, then we should start seeing a new wave emerging in the next few days.

I don't really get how you could possibly implement safety measures in a place like this. People seem to forget that you don't actually need to be near someone who has the virus to contract it. You just need to be in close proximity to the objects and places they were in contact with—e.g. the table or slot machine they were playing at.

If people want to go there and risk death, then good riddance, people are dumb af.
the second wave is the most worried...
On my social media homepage, a lot of news emerged that raised the issue of Beijing City again to lockdown due to the second wave of corona outbreaks. our concern is the most important thing right now, casinos can become one of the dens of the spread of corona disease if casino owners do not pay attention to health protocols set by the government.

Remove the if and things will be better, we can't always live in feat, there's always a risk but we just have to believe that our government and these businesses will comply with the protocol, otherwise things will be worst even if we just hide since there's no way the economy can sustain until next year with limited activities on the business sectors.

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June 19, 2020, 10:25:38 AM
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the second wave is the most worried...

But maybe, that was the plan right at the outset, nay, outbreak

Ironically, when it actually comes to that, the US will be in a better shape overall than the rest of the pack. If people acquire a lasting immunity after they recover (which seems to be the case), the pain America now endures may turn out a blessing in disguise if it ever comes to this dreaded second wave. Yeah, I know it smells like a primitive Darwinism to most of you (I can definitely relate), but isn't it the proverbial American way of life? To quote myself, unemployment benefits, social welfare and healthcare are for pussies and Europeans, dying destitute under the bridge (probably from corona) is the American way!



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June 19, 2020, 12:08:35 PM
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Looks like Las Vegas are heading for a second wave.

If the incubation time is around 14 days and they just re-opened last week, then we should start seeing a new wave emerging in the next few days.

I don't really get how you could possibly implement safety measures in a place like this. People seem to forget that you don't actually need to be near someone who has the virus to contract it. You just need to be in close proximity to the objects and places they were in contact with—e.g. the table or slot machine they were playing at.

If people want to go there and risk death, then good riddance, people are dumb af.
the second wave is the most worried...
On my social media homepage, a lot of news emerged that raised the issue of Beijing City again to lockdown due to the second wave of corona outbreaks. our concern is the most important thing right now, casinos can become one of the dens of the spread of corona disease if casino owners do not pay attention to health protocols set by the government.


Here, as usual, we are talking about the two sides of the coin. On the one hand, people want to go to work and feed their families, on the other hand there are big risks of spreading viruses.

I’m wondering so much time has passed and there is still no definite and reliable information. Some sources say that you can get sick again, the second say that immunity is being developed, the others say that you may have an immune confrontation and you definitely will not get sick. After all, all countries are studying the virus, but so far nothing is clear. This is sad..
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June 19, 2020, 12:44:01 PM
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My brother was at the opening day. He said that the halls were crowded, a lot of people came, it was really packed.

It was hard to breathe in a mask all the time, also he said that no one had a mask of proper quality that would really protect against viruses, and not just from dust or pollen. Therefore, even the measures put forward by the casino and the rule of law are not followed up to the mark.
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June 19, 2020, 02:00:22 PM
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From my point of view, maybe the reasons why Las Vegas Casinos have started to open, so they could save their business or to help their workers to have a source of income again. But it is still inappropriate for Las Vegas Casinos to reopen because it could cause more trouble if more people will get infected by the virus.
That really is the main reason why they are reopening the casinos again. To recover their economy, give jobs to jobless employees again and probably save their business.

U.S. is right now the epicenter of the pandemic so reopening casinos in times like this is a bit risky IMO. This can lead to more cases and only one infected person can ruin the business as a whole as it can lead to another closure of the casino. Either way, this move by them is a bit risky and gamblers have a choice to risk their lives by going there or not. They can gamble online still if they want without going outside and risking their lives.
Just one wrong decision from the government, it can affect hundreds or thousands of lives of their people. However, it's difficult to make a decision because workers need a job and businesses need revenue, or else, employers need to layoff some of their employees to lessen their losses and expenses.

But on the other hand, it will put risk to thousands of people who will choose to gamble outside. So maybe it's also the responsibility of the gamblers whether to take a risk and endanger their lives or just go with online gambling. It's not only the government who will need to take action about this pandemic, but we also need to be responsible for our actions.
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My brother was at the opening day. He said that the halls were crowded, a lot of people came, it was really packed.
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Then there is a possibility in the spread of corona virus, this  was the reason I said our lives is more precious than the fiat for rewards. Possibly the environment might have gotten or include one or more participant who might be a victim of the virus. Though life is a choice and we all have our individual or collective responsibility to watch our lives. Safety won't work in such a place like casino and we all know this but ignored the advise of the expert. Hope there won't be another wave of this pandemic due to human negligence.

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June 19, 2020, 08:44:01 PM
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My brother was at the opening day. He said that the halls were crowded, a lot of people came, it was really packed.
It was hard to breathe in a mask all the time, also he said that no one had a mask of proper quality that would really protect against viruses, and not just from dust or pollen.
This is enough as proof that the casinos apply a careless way to protect the gamblers/visitors. I cannot imagine if there is someone there carries Coronavirus, then all the people there also be infected with the virus. With this fact, the government should think to delay "reopen the casinos". This is too risky as it can be another way for the Covid-19 to spread quickly again.
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June 19, 2020, 09:00:32 PM
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My brother was at the opening day. He said that the halls were crowded, a lot of people came, it was really packed.
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Then there is a possibility in the spread of corona virus, this  was the reason I said our lives is more precious than the fiat for rewards. Possibly the environment might have gotten or include one or more participant who might be a victim of the virus. Though life is a choice and we all have our individual or collective responsibility to watch our lives. Safety won't work in such a place like casino and we all know this but ignored the advise of the expert. Hope there won't be another wave of this pandemic due to human negligence.

Your life was never in any danger. Not in a danger from this pandemic at least.

If you're not over 60 years old you have nothing to fear and if you are there's no reason why you should go gamble in a casino. Rent out a boat and go fishing or something and have one less thing to worry about.

It's good they're opening casinos. Every person should measure their own risk and be able to choose. I'm tired of the government choosing for me.
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Your life was never in any danger. Not in a danger from this pandemic at least.

If you're not over 60 years old you have nothing to fear and if you are there's no reason why you should go gamble in a casino. Rent out a boat and go fishing or something and have one less thing to worry about.

It's good they're opening casinos. Every person should measure their own risk and be able to choose. I'm tired of the government choosing for me.


Children as young as thirteen have died after contracting Covid-19.  Your statement is factually not true.  I'll stop short of saying it is a lie, but it is seriously incorrect.

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June 19, 2020, 10:52:13 PM
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Your life was never in any danger. Not in a danger from this pandemic at least.

If you're not over 60 years old you have nothing to fear and if you are there's no reason why you should go gamble in a casino. Rent out a boat and go fishing or something and have one less thing to worry about.

It's good they're opening casinos. Every person should measure their own risk and be able to choose. I'm tired of the government choosing for me.


Children as young as thirteen have died after contracting Covid-19.  Your statement is factually not true.  I'll stop short of saying it is a lie, but it is seriously incorrect.

I agree with Timelord2067, in our country, 60 years old are required to stay at home and children 18 below are also treated the same, maybe they have weaker immune system so the authorities required them to stay at home.

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Wish it was as simple as age, theres various complicating factors besides the obvious.    High blood pressure seems to be one of them, quite a few contributing conditions could be undiagnosed and theres no reliable accurate source just everyone is at risk is about a fair assessment imo.   Either yourself or you pass it someone you care about who is dangerously vulnerable and you didnt even know you were carrying it, would be pretty sad to understand that two years from now rather just being cautious now.
   A friend of friend whose just 30 is still recovering, they first got it months ago and probably wont die at this stage but they suffered lasting damage.   Its not something Im aiming to get as if I'll be fine.

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He said that the halls were crowded, a lot of people came, it was really packed.
  Theres got to be a better alternative to hoping for the best as clearly crowds of people are fairly brainless in avoiding risk.   I went to one store with a one way system and the employees walk the wrong way brushing against people because its too cramped, they cant wait 20 seconds for someone to pass before going ahead.  So I just figure you cant mitigate this spread except by really obvious large distribution and distance.

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June 20, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
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I agree with Timelord2067, in our country, 60 years old are required to stay at home and children 18 below are also treated the same, maybe they have weaker immune system so the authorities required them to stay at home.
That could be the very reason why people on that age has been decided for stricter rules. And it's related to the protocols that's being implemented worldwide that the ones that can potentially have a weaker immune system should stay at home. But I have read people on that age complaining to the government that they should also be allowed to go out just like others.

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June 20, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
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Why other people think  about the profit they get when they re open again their business like that the casino I know many players are want to play but it is not the right time to that.

Right now we need to focus on the health of the people to not get the virus so I hope they will not reopen their casino. We need to help each other to this situation because if it become worst we have a bigger problem.

But if we passed this we can have a normal life again but we cannot get that if they do that just think the sake of all not only of yours.
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June 20, 2020, 02:08:29 PM
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Your life was never in any danger. Not in a danger from this pandemic at least.

If you're not over 60 years old you have nothing to fear and if you are there's no reason why you should go gamble in a casino. Rent out a boat and go fishing or something and have one less thing to worry about.

It's good they're opening casinos. Every person should measure their own risk and be able to choose. I'm tired of the government choosing for me.


Children as young as thirteen have died after contracting Covid-19.  Your statement is factually not true.  I'll stop short of saying it is a lie, but it is seriously incorrect.

I agree with Timelord2067, in our country, 60 years old are required to stay at home and children 18 below are also treated the same, maybe they have weaker immune system so the authorities required them to stay at home.

Where I am at, 20 years old and below are not allowed to go out to travel nor even do essential tasks like volunteering as frontline worker or doing groceries for the elderly. That is being decided by the community. Until casinos now casinos are still closed here and they only allow online gambling sites to function in condition that they will pay the taxes needed for the government to function. But there is a relaxed approach now and people are cautiously going out to work and do their duties. I would agree for casinos to stay put a little bit, for safety reasons.

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June 20, 2020, 03:36:19 PM
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Why other people think  about the profit they get when they re open again their business like that the casino I know many players are want to play but it is not the right time to that.

Right now we need to focus on the health of the people to not get the virus so I hope they will not reopen their casino. We need to help each other to this situation because if it become worst we have a bigger problem.

But if we passed this we can have a normal life again but we cannot get that if they do that just think the sake of all not only of yours.

Business is business. He has only profit in mind and nothing more. However, there are reasonable things in this. Imagine if all your country's campaigns close tomorrow and everyone stays at home, how will people live without money? Who will deliver the products and provide basic basic services?
Of course, a casino is not something that is a basic need of people. However, if there are those who want to play, why not. They will show that they are not sick or carriers of infection and let them play.
I still believe that every healthy person is free to make their own choices. And the sick of course need to stay at home so as not to infect others.
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June 20, 2020, 09:51:35 PM
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Your life was never in any danger. Not in a danger from this pandemic at least.

If you're not over 60 years old you have nothing to fear and if you are there's no reason why you should go gamble in a casino. Rent out a boat and go fishing or something and have one less thing to worry about.

It's good they're opening casinos. Every person should measure their own risk and be able to choose. I'm tired of the government choosing for me.


Children as young as thirteen have died after contracting Covid-19.  Your statement is factually not true.  I'll stop short of saying it is a lie, but it is seriously incorrect.

What proof do you have that it's covid19 that killed them and not asthma, cancer or whatever else they had going on at the same time?
Take a look at this
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105061/coronavirus-deaths-by-region-in-italy/

Out of 237 thousand cases there were 4 deaths of children and no teenagers. Only 15 people age 20-29 have died. The same numbers can be found if you compare this to seasonal flu statistics.
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June 20, 2020, 09:56:59 PM
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Why other people think  about the profit they get when they re open again their business like that the casino I know many players are want to play but it is not the right time to that.

Right now we need to focus on the health of the people to not get the virus so I hope they will not reopen their casino. We need to help each other to this situation because if it become worst we have a bigger problem.

But if we passed this we can have a normal life again but we cannot get that if they do that just think the sake of all not only of yours.

Business is business. He has only profit in mind and nothing more. However, there are reasonable things in this. Imagine if all your country's campaigns close tomorrow and everyone stays at home, how will people live without money? Who will deliver the products and provide basic basic services?
Of course, a casino is not something that is a basic need of people. However, if there are those who want to play, why not. They will show that they are not sick or carriers of infection and let them play.
I still believe that every healthy person is free to make their own choices. And the sick of course need to stay at home so as not to infect others.

There are people that doesnt show off symptoms thats why they cant detect if they are already infected or not and still go to places that they do like to visit on ex. these casinos.

pointing it out would really be hard this is why its still risky to go up to these places because thermal scanners and alcohol wont really be enough to get rid of the virus and once a certain infected person able to go inside then

potentially all of those people will really have the risk on getting infected specially these kind of places are isolated or closed on when no proper ventilation or shall we say its airconditioned.

People would really need to work for them to have some money to spend but majority will surely consider on prioritizing things up like needs for them to survive rather than prioritizing on playing gambling.

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June 21, 2020, 07:02:34 AM
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There are people that doesnt show off symptoms thats why they cant detect if they are already infected or not and still go to places that they do like to visit on ex. these casinos.

pointing it out would really be hard this is why its still risky to go up to these places because thermal scanners and alcohol wont really be enough to get rid of the virus and once a certain infected person able to go inside then

potentially all of those people will really have the risk on getting infected specially these kind of places are isolated or closed on when no proper ventilation or shall we say its airconditioned.

People would really need to work for them to have some money to spend but majority will surely consider on prioritizing things up like needs for them to survive rather than prioritizing on playing gambling.

Every day, our body is attacked by dozens of different viruses and bacteria. If a person is constantly afraid of this, then he needs to live in isolated rooms from the other world.
We are all different. Someone is very afraid of the danger of infection, someone does not care about it. Everyone has the right to make their own choice. If I'm healthy and want to go to Las Vegas, no one can stop me. It is my right to put myself at risk of infection or not.
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