⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024

[casperBGD]

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I can't ask for anything more, a 20-point round, a solid acca win, and Juventus crapping their pants. 

congrats man
for me, this round was bad as any other, I simply do not like Calcio

it was good to see Krunic back in Milan squad, since he is my sorare player, and can provide some value week-to-week, but other than that I rarely watch Italian clubs, following some stats and that is it
Roma is playing Milan for the weekend, is it time for first lost match for rossoneri?

[Trofo]

New challenge is up go make your predictions guys. Writing it in this thread on purpose to better notify players who are not part of La Liga pool. If you are wondering why Sociedad game, it was request from the other thread and it went nicely with my plans to feature only Sunday games to give you more time. From next week onward I'll change the challenge a bit, probably remove cards and add corners instead. If you have some other ideas let me know.

[buwaytress]

HT and first game of the day is tied at 1-1 so my prediction is very much alive, just don't think now it's actually going to hit unless the home side get an early goal and then hit again when Lazio are on the counter. How Zapata keeps on the scoresheet I don't know, keep thinking of putting him and a few others in system acca heh.

Happy with the way it was done Trofo and happy with however you decide to go with changes. Tie-breaker perhaps could be something other than minute taken as it seems to give an unfair advantage to those who get their picks in early? Not that it's a huge deal and that is the easiest now!

[leea-1334]

So. When are we going to finally start predicting Juventus losses by 2-1? They seemed to finish the game very positively according to the match reports but when you give away 2 quick goals against Verona,,, form beats quality in the end at most times right?

Chiellini seems to be in the news a lot too so maybe he is feeling pressure already.

[leea-1334]

Wow hahay you are really creating a huge gap in this pool position now.

1st place>131 points
2nd place>123.5 points

That is 7.5 points with only 10 rounds left. Even if I find a way to get 17 points next round,,, I need you to score 0 to overtake. That is a great advantage. However,,, I am happy to climb this week with one final game today. I should feel happy to be of minority to predict Milan win but the scoreline was 2-1 after red card! Poor Mourinho

[Trofo]

Wow hahay you are really creating a huge gap in this pool position now.

1st place>131 points
2nd place>123.5 points

That is 7.5 points with only 10 rounds left. Even if I find a way to get 17 points next round,,, I need you to score 0 to overtake. That is a great advantage. However,,, I am happy to climb this week with one final game today. I should feel happy to be of minority to predict Milan win but the scoreline was 2-1 after red card! Poor Mourinho

I think you meant that is 7,5 pints after only 10 rounds, there is much more than 10 rounds left to play. Hahay is killing us so far but there is plenty of time to turn it around. Don't look at it like needing to overcome that point difference in one round. It is more than enough to score one point more than him in the next 20 rounds

We still have one more game for tonight, does not look really exciting but it is better than nothing for Monday night and passing time before CL tomorrow.

[leea-1334]

I think you meant that is 7,5 pints after only 10 rounds, there is much more than 10 rounds left to play. Hahay is killing us so far but there is plenty of time to turn it around. Don't look at it like needing to overcome that point difference in one round. It is more than enough to score one point more than him in the next 20 rounds

We still have one more game for tonight, does not look really exciting but it is better than nothing for Monday night and passing time before CL tomorrow.

Oops of course this is what I meant,,, After 10 rounds and not with 10 rounds left. Hahay is doing well everywhere I seem to remember his name a lot but you are 100% correct in the positioning of points.

1 point extra for 20 more rounds, I know I can do it,,, and I know others can do it even better!

Still I think this is interesting that my first Serie A experience is better than my 3rd EPL experience and I watched English football for more than 10 years  

[Trofo]

Still I think this is interesting that my first Serie A experience is better than my 3rd EPL experience and I watched English football for more than 10 years  

It has something to do with number of participants as well. It is much tougher to position well in pool with 50 participants than to position well in the pool with 15 participants. Usually in this small pools you are always within the striking distance of paid positions if not the 1st place. In Premier League pool you have 2 bad weeks and you are 30 position from the money and no way you will outperform 30 people.

[leea-1334]

Still I think this is interesting that my first Serie A experience is better than my 3rd EPL experience and I watched English football for more than 10 years  

It has something to do with number of participants as well. It is much tougher to position well in pool with 50 participants than to position well in the pool with 15 participants. Usually in this small pools you are always within the striking distance of paid positions if not the 1st place. In Premier League pool you have 2 bad weeks and you are 30 position from the money and no way you will outperform 30 people.

I wish this made me feel better but I also join 2 other pools automatically it seems on Superbru,,, like depending on the club you choose to support, it adds you to a pool with other supporters. I am still doing better in the Serie A pools than in EPL pools

Example my positions
Internazionale Fans> 52/518
But Tottenham Fans> 3003/4145

So I am top 10 in Inter pool and Bottom 30% in Spurs pool totally corresponding to 41/48 in our EPL pool   Normally this is how I judge my performance since it is in same group of people who follow my club also.

[LTU_btc]

It has something to do with number of participants as well. It is much tougher to position well in pool with 50 participants than to position well in the pool with 15 participants. Usually in this small pools you are always within the striking distance of paid positions if not the 1st place. In Premier League pool you have 2 bad weeks and you are 30 position from the money and no way you will outperform 30 people.

You're right, when there is less players, it's a bit easier to recover after few bad rounds. But big part of result is luck. I watch very few games of Serie A, compared with La Liga and EPL, but it's only pool where I perform more or less OK this season. And EPL is obviously least predictable tournament, even with good knowledge it's so difficult to perform well there.
And @leea-1334 have good point, it's interesting to check global leaderboard and check how well, or usually bad we perform.

[leea-1334]

You're right, when there is less players, it's a bit easier to recover after few bad rounds. But big part of result is luck. I watch very few games of Serie A, compared with La Liga and EPL, but it's only pool where I perform more or less OK this season. And EPL is obviously least predictable tournament, even with good knowledge it's so difficult to perform well there.
And @leea-1334 have good point, it's interesting to check global leaderboard and check how well, or usually bad we perform.

For sure it is a lot of luck, because in 10 rounds, it too early to see who is the real good team in football. Compare season table now and season table at the end of 38 rounds and I am very sure it is not the same teams at the top or even at the bottom,,, 100% the same for us all here.

EPL is the least predictable, except we know City is at the top in the end, right?

Global or bigger pool for sure gives you better estimate of your real performance

[casperBGD]

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You're right, when there is less players, it's a bit easier to recover after few bad rounds. But big part of result is luck. I watch very few games of Serie A, compared with La Liga and EPL, but it's only pool where I perform more or less OK this season. And EPL is obviously least predictable tournament, even with good knowledge it's so difficult to perform well there.
And @leea-1334 have good point, it's interesting to check global leaderboard and check how well, or usually bad we perform.

yeah, I check my global position more often, to see am I bad, or the others in the pool are great
and I am usually good in La Liga, and suck in Calcio

EPL is better this season than previous, and this is probably because I do not try to catch upsets, like last season, and do not play on my teams, and yeah, I do agree that Premier league is least predictable, you can see odds on matches, but La Liga as well has almost in every round four or more matches where each odd is above 2 (home, draw, away)

[slaman29]

EPL is better this season than previous, and this is probably because I do not try to catch upsets, like last season, and do not play on my teams, and yeah, I do agree that Premier league is least predictable, you can see odds on matches, but La Liga as well has almost in every round four or more matches where each odd is above 2 (home, draw, away)

I look less at the book odds but some stupid analysis sites for predictions and that is not really helpful in the end as some of them are biased like me, but since I know less about this league I thought I should follow some of the experts. Same as in EPL, but the experts there always seem to get it wrong about the favorites anyway

Already put in my picks for the weekly game too, thank you!

[casperBGD]

Milan derby finished 1:1
solid match, Inter missed penalty that could make it more interesting, but Napoli is real booger, since they did not used Milan draw to get the top

my hopes were with Milan to win, but draw is probably fair to both teams and their play yesterday night

Lazio won easily over Salernitana 3:0

[Trofo]

Milan derby finished 1:1
solid match, Inter missed penalty that could make it more interesting, but Napoli is real booger, since they did not used Milan draw to get the top

Only match in the whole weekend that I got exactly right. I expected a scoring draw and even went with 1:1 in the pool. Was about the time to get my first yellow cap of the season, courtesy of slam point

There was so many strange results in all top leagues, I got rektd quite badly on all my tickets. What is worse now we have international break and no way to get some back from bookies. At least for me, since I have abysmal prediction powers when national teams are concerned.

[buwaytress]

Bloodbath all over the league huh? Roma, Sassuolo, Sampdoria all losing, Milan, Inter, Napoli taking a point each. Lazio the biggest winner I think, climbing closer to UCL spot, and the worst thing for me is another international break, which means we again have no clue about how clubs will perform two weeks from now.

Inter Milan match looking at the stats is like seeing old Serie A. Goals from OG and penalties, 6 shots total from both sides... hope you got all your BTTS right Trofo.

[casperBGD]

Bloodbath all over the league huh?
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bloodbath all over Europe
even Ajax did not won home match in Dutch league, do we need better proof that this week was strange

I knew that I will suck in Calcio, but joined for the community
nevertheless, will try to get one/two yellow caps this season, did not catch any in all four pools that I am in this season, this was a good chance, but needed Milan to win last night

[buwaytress]

Bloodbath all over the league huh?
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bloodbath all over Europe
even Ajax did not won home match in Dutch league, do we need better proof that this week was strange

I knew that I will suck in Calcio, but joined for the community
nevertheless, will try to get one/two yellow caps this season, did not catch any in all four pools that I am in this season, this was a good chance, but needed Milan to win last night

If you want to know the pain I had, I actually bet on Go Ahead Eagles to win at over 40/1. The big favourite drawing is painful because it was easily 15/1 for a handicap or Double Chance so losing that was my last Hail Mary that didn't work out at all this week.

I really hate internationals too so I might just stay out of regular betting and keep an eye out on specials instead.

Something was definitely in the air in Europe this weekend...

[morvillz7z]

Shevchenko is back in Italy, this time as a manager as he takes over Genoa:

source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/serie-a/2021/11/07/6187f4c1e2704e0c9e8b458c.html

Genoa hired former AC Milan and Chelsea forward Andriy Shevchenko as coach on Sunday, a day after firing Davide Ballardini.

The 45-year-old Shevchenko signed a contract until June 2024.

A few years in charge of Ukraine's national team, but no experience as a manager at club level. I'm curious to see how things pan out for him and Genoa, and whether he can keep them out of the relegation zone despite another sluggish start to the season.

I'm willing to make a bet that there will be another coaching change in Genoa if D'Aversa and Samp don't win their next match (vs. Salernitana) after the international break.

[LTU_btc]

Shevchenko is back in Italy, this time as a manager as he takes over Genoa:

source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/serie-a/2021/11/07/6187f4c1e2704e0c9e8b458c.html

Genoa hired former AC Milan and Chelsea forward Andriy Shevchenko as coach on Sunday, a day after firing Davide Ballardini.

The 45-year-old Shevchenko signed a contract until June 2024.

A few years in charge of Ukraine's national team, but no experience as a manager at club level. I'm curious to see how things pan out for him and Genoa, and whether he can keep them out of the relegation zone despite another sluggish start to the season.

I'm willing to make a bet that there will be another coaching change in Genoa if D'Aversa and Samp don't win their next match (vs. Salernitana) after the international break.

It will be very interesting to follow Sheva in Genoa, I'm going to watch some Genoa just because of him. He used to be one of my favourite players back in old good Milan times. Yeah, he don't have experience in clubs, but he turned Ukraine into really strong team. I hope he will save Genoa from relegation.
BTW, there is not much talk about it, but does anyone think that Mourinho will be sacked this season? Complete failure against Bodo/Glimt, lose against Venezia and they failed to win against all strong teams in league - Lazio, Juve, Napoli, Milan.