Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers

[fiulpro]

I do think most of the people out there are aware of the fact that many big celebrity bands and companies due to Quarantine Declined the payment to the people working for them in small underdeveloped countries like Bangladesh.
People started commenting on the posts of these brands and celebs *pay up* , the comments were soon turned off on their Instagram handle.
I do not know if this topic has already been started but I did think it would help to spread the word.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/06/05/869486297/for-bangladeshs-struggling-garment-workers-hunger-is-a-bigger-worry-than-pandemi

A sad statement by a worker mentioned:
*I will die of hunger before I die of the virus*

Some brands agreed to pay up after the people were enraged and in distress , it's a small price to pay when these people are not even making 100$ a month and they are selling the product they make 10 times the profit sometimes.

H&M, Adidas and Nike are among brands that have agreed to pay for back orders totaling some $7.5 billion. As factories reopen, they're fulfilling those orders.

__________________________________________________________ Around £2.4 billion was withheld from the workers of small factories.

Even celebs like Kylie Jenner who makes more than what these workers combined would make in a lifetime ignored the plea of the workers asking them to pay them so that they don't die of hunger.

All of this shows the effects of quarantine , the declining economic situation have sure effected the small companies, minority workers paid not even what we would call a reasonable payment.

All of it have affected the small workers and companies more , problem is most of their companies are even eligible for the government grants !!

Human rights workers contacted these companies and talked with them too , good news is some companies did agree to pay up and at the same time they distributed masks for the workers and improved the health conditions.

This is how unfair the economy is , this is what we mean when we say the poor is getting poorer and the rich is getting Richer .

I do think these companies and celebs should not only pay up they should also face charges for doing this .

[ This is how strong the company label is , it might have been made in a small slum area but when it goes to big countries and companies its sold off for 10-20 times their normal value ]

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.
[ Payments options can be varied , they can accept wide variety of payments and maybe educated people living near them can help them with investments , even if they start selling their products locally it would be a great deal ! ]

This is why educating people about their options are important, I do think we should spread the word , support the small markets , this pandemic has shown how pity some of these big companies are .

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[coolcoinz]

To these "bosses" the workers are nothing more than tools that you use and throw away when they are no longer needed. The only way they can fight is by refusing to work for those people who are known as dishonest and exposing them in the Internet and the media. They more proof they're able to gather the better because for those people (celebrities and brands) the only thing that matters is the public image. Damage that and you'll have them on their knees.

[plvbob0070]

It's always been those people at the bottom who will suffer the most during a crisis or economic decline. It's one of the major problems brought by the pandemic since millions of people are suffering from no income and some even lost their job during the lockdown. But I don't think companies should get charged for not paying their workers since they were forced to stop the operation and there's no job done during the lockdown so they are not obliged to pay them for the days they didn't work. Also, the fact that during those days, they have no revenue. However, I also get the point of the workers that they are only depending on their income and nobody wants this pandemic. Companies should have just sent help or compensation for their workers since they have funds like this for emergencies.

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.

They are small workers, they can hardly find the money for their food so how come they can start their own brand?  Let's say even if they start their own brand, they can't easily make that business big compare to the company where they are working. It will be hard for them to export their products so they can only sell their products locally. But my concern is, would there be enough customers that will use bitcoin as payment.

[Coyster]

In this economic situation, employees of private establishments are definitely going to face more trouble getting paid for their services, that's if they do not get laid off. In the government establishments, workers are still paid salaries even when the nation was locked down indefinitely; at least if they weren't paid then, the salaries were queued up as salaries owed, but those working for private owned firms are not so lucky, you do not get paid if you do not work and most of this establishments just recently reopened, so they are still struggling to generate income from their business, it's not the fault of the employers nor the workers.

Even celebs like Kylie Jenner who makes more than what these workers combined would make in a lifetime ignored the plea of the workers asking them to pay them so that they don't die of hunger.

The personal assets of the employer is not important, this are individuals that own numerous businesses, and workers receive their salary on what the particular company they work for makes, if the company is not generating any income atm, paying workers becomes an issue, the owner can't deep hands into his own private pockets or sell properties to pay up.

[Upgrade00]

Labour is not valued in most developing countries and some with large populations, people are expected to feel fortunate to have a source of income at all and as such would accept any payment they're giving. I see such situations in my country, the minimum wage is set really low even though it was just recently increased, and doesn't qualify as a minimum living wage, some establishments however still pay much lower and such offers are still accepted.

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.
[ Payments options can be varied , they can accept wide variety of payments and maybe educated people living near them can help them with investments , even if they start selling their products locally it would be a great deal ! ]

Most of these workers function in niche areas and lack the necessary idea, knowledge and capital to venture out on their own. Not everyone has the option of turning to educated wealthy neighbors to assist them. They could of course pitch their ideas to investors, but such opportunities are limited.

[so98nn]

No wonder it's neither their mistake nor the mistake of people who work for them. If industries, businesses and celebs keep paying their workers in full wages then how do you think they could keep up their own lifestyle.

What I mean by lifestyle here?

Well those celebs might have gotten huge homes, cars, bank loans and they need to pay EMI as well. Their accounts manager surely had calculated these EMI's based on their current payscales. Now, here is the twist! They are not working, they are not singing, nor they acting so the money flow has stopped for them as well. If they keep paying EMI's as well as the wages to workers then soon they will drain their bank accounts and I don't think it's good idea.

Paying them with cut off wages is still win-win situation for both of them. Since, those workers might not be working due to lockdown's and corona outbreak threats. So it's still good idea to keep it that way. This way both of them can be happy.

Same formula applies to people working in other sectors.

[Sanugarid]

It's been always between the rich and the poor, let the reality be real.

The people who runs the most of the economy will suffer once a chaos is developing. Those who are in the engine of the train will suffer when there is a problem, and those who eats on the cabin will feel comfort until the situation threatens them enough. It is easier for a boss to fire his workers during this time, they can just made a reason because of the pandemic. Paying the workers, including a situational circumstance like this will depend on the contract signed by them especially if they are working with celebrity. Don't hate anyone, let us be equal here, take a look on the contracts.

[Kakmakr]

Workers creating their own Brand? How is that going to work...? The whole thing about a Brand is the celebrities endorsing it and their millions of followers wanting to buy their products. 

In any way, the best way to deal with things like this ...is to expose them and I think the way you are doing this.. is already a step in the right direction. Name and shame these celebrities with facts in the public and they will quickly make apologies and also pay what is due.    (It is all about the image and the money for them)

[Rana590]

As far as I know, the economic condition of bangladesh is not so well at this moment. In this pandemic situation, some private schools are selling to pay the fees of teachers. Garments are in big risk where it is the most important sector in GDP of Bangladesh.

[arallmuus]

As far as I know, the economic condition of bangladesh is not so well at this moment.

Same goes for Every other countries that suffer from pandemic, Some even experiencing economy recession right now

But I don't think companies should get charged for not paying their workers since they were forced to stop the operation and there's no job done during the lockdown so they are not obliged to pay them for the days they didn't work.

Depends on which case are we discussing about. If the workers were working for X days before the brand/company cease their operation then they should be paid for the X days that they havent received any payment for their job.

However, I also get the point of the workers that they are only depending on their income and nobody wants this pandemic. Companies should have just sent help or compensation for their workers since they have funds like this for emergencies.

Totally disagree on the compensation part. I tend to look for a neutral option and in this case, it would be like this

Lets set an example, if you were a worker that work for $5 a day and receive your payment monthly then you should receive your rights as stated

If you work for 20 days before the company cease their operation then you should be receiving $5*20 = $100 for your work despite the fact that you would only receive your payment monthly.

The company you worked for will be suffering from the decrease of their revenue but they got no obligation to give you anything beyond what you should be receiving which is $100

It's been always between the rich and the poor, let the reality be real.

The people who runs the most of the economy will suffer once a chaos is developing. Those who are in the engine of the train will suffer when there is a problem, and those who eats on the cabin will feel comfort until the situation threatens them enough.

Think of this like some sort of pyramid. Those who suffer would be the bottom layer of the pyramid and there are alot. The minority on the upper layer wont really suffer that much damage however once the bottom layer suffered alot as the foundation of the pyramid then the upper layer will feel some sort of effect as well

Think of this analogy as a country, those who suffer would be the lower class but with their large number then the whole country will be surely affected by it

[gentlemand]

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.

Consumers want brands primarily. If they want a non branded item they have a million choices anyway.

I think it would be very cool if developing world workers came up with a world beating brand off their own back but you need a mountain of marketing and finance.

No idea what the finances of the companies contracting these factories are like but many will have their own staff and own problems too. In the UK plenty of big operations are on their way out. People in far off lands not directly employed by them will be way down the list.

[Rengga Jati]

I think that the payment for celebs are so high moreover they can earn those payments commonly from not only live jobs but also advertisement and others. And they have had much money before this pandemic. Don't they save the money?? At elast, paying the employees are not as high as their payment rates. But well, every celeb probably has different characteristics or also earning. Some of them probably are usual to live in a high lifestyle but no earning coming up again to them.
Yeah, lifestyle, probably becomes also the factor why they want to stay in a high styel but in fact they still have owe to pay for their employers. It is so sad to know the facts.

A sad statement by a worker mentioned:
*I will die of hunger before I die of the virus*

You know, this is also what happen in my country. Many people are jobless during this pandemic, decreased income because they cannot work outside. They have no earning. Some only have money for eating and they got it from the kind people who gave them for food. And very sadly, there was a mother who was died because of hunger in my country, it was so sad.

[Wexnident]

That's kind of.. odd? I mean, do they have a reason big enough to decline to pay their workers? Plus, wasn't there a contract of sorts between those famous celebs and the workers to prevent this kind of thing? Or are those things just verbal agreements? Plus god these celebs earn more each week than their workers earn for each month. What's the problem with paying them? They're basically living off of huge villas, not to mention the multiple houses they probably own, and yet they can't even pay their workers for what they deserve?

Workers creating their own Brand? How is that going to work...? The whole thing about a Brand is the celebrities endorsing it and their millions of followers wanting to buy their products. 

In any way, the best way to deal with things like this ...is to expose them and I think the way you are doing this.. is already a step in the right direction. Name and shame these celebrities with facts in the public and they will quickly make apologies and also pay what is due.    (It is all about the image and the money for them)

Well, fame supersedes skill most of the time after all. If you were to ask to choose about a quality product that isn't famous and a bad product but was endorsed by literally every famous person out there, most would choose the latter instead of the former no? Still, some people acknowledge skill but would take quite a bit of time, making the idea itself hard to implement since time is one of the things that most people don't have right now.

[AmoreJaz]

That's kind of.. odd? I mean, do they have a reason big enough to decline to pay their workers? Plus, wasn't there a contract of sorts between those famous celebs and the workers to prevent this kind of thing? Or are those things just verbal agreements? Plus god these celebs earn more each week than their workers earn for each month. What's the problem with paying them? They're basically living off of huge villas, not to mention the multiple houses they probably own, and yet they can't even pay their workers for what they deserve?

Workers creating their own Brand? How is that going to work...? The whole thing about a Brand is the celebrities endorsing it and their millions of followers wanting to buy their products. 

In any way, the best way to deal with things like this ...is to expose them and I think the way you are doing this.. is already a step in the right direction. Name and shame these celebrities with facts in the public and they will quickly make apologies and also pay what is due.    (It is all about the image and the money for them)

Well, fame supersedes skill most of the time after all. If you were to ask to choose about a quality product that isn't famous and a bad product but was endorsed by literally every famous person out there, most would choose the latter instead of the former no? Still, some people acknowledge skill but would take quite a bit of time, making the idea itself hard to implement since time is one of the things that most people don't have right now.

i guess it depends on the celebrity. for those that understand the plight of their employees during this pandemic, whether they have contract or not, they will help their employees if they are humane enough to consider the situation. they have the money and giving a small portion of it to the persons doing the hard work should not make them poor. unless the celebrity is also having financial difficulties..

[Darker45]

One thing that worsened in the past few months during the pandemic is the violation of human rights. A lot of daily wage earners and people who are dependent on their micro-businesses such as vendors lost their livelihood. As usual, no wage no food on the table.

While they were not allowed to go out from their homes to look for food, they also haven't received any assistance. This is killing them softly.

The economy is unfair during better days. Everything worsens during pandemic days. The leaders up there are oblivious to most of what these people are going through because they don't have an inkling as to their real day-to-day life.

Hence, it is utter hypocrisy or even an absolute myth to say that we are all prone to COVID-19 infection, that COVID-19 does not discriminate people according to economic status, that we are going through all this as one, and so on and so forth.

[davis196]

I would never buy Adidas,H&M or Nike.Overpriced products(because of the famous brand),which production is outsourced in third world countries,so the production costs are as low as possible,while the profits are going in the company located in the US.
Unfortunately,this is how capitalism works.I assume that most of those companies that refuse to pay their employees have enough capital reserves to pay them,but the pretty liberal labor legislation,combined with weak and non-existent unions are allowing those companies to do whatever they want and treat their employees like slaves.

[Barnabe]

I would never buy Adidas,H&M or Nike.Overpriced products(because of the famous brand),which production is outsourced in third world countries,so the production costs are as low as possible,while the profits are going in the company located in the US.
Unfortunately,this is how capitalism works.I assume that most of those companies that refuse to pay their employees have enough capital reserves to pay them,but the pretty liberal labor legislation,combined with weak and non-existent unions are allowing those companies to do whatever they want and treat their employees like slaves.

Even with a liberal legislation, I really doubt these companies can get away from a situation like this... In my country (which is quite liberal in terms of labor and economics in general), the state would intervene very quickly and even withdraw their bank accounts if they did something like this. Plus they have a lot to lose in terms of public image, so I really doubt these companies will do such a thing.

[maydna]

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.

If they can learn for a new thing, especially learning about bitcoin and they have skills, yes, they can start their own brands, offering their services to people, and receive payments in bitcoin. But we know that only a few people are willing to learn about something new, and many of them depend on offline jobs. So that will difficult for them to start their own brands or business.

It is not happening in the entertainment industry, but it's happening in other industries. Many companies, big or small companies, can't pay their workers. It's the effect of Covid-19 that is happening in many industries. It will be different from the companies that are getting funds from the state because they get some allocation of the funds used to pay the employees. The private companies will have this problem, and if they don't have strong funds or have a lot of money, those companies will not survive, and the companies will bankrupt.

[Janation]

Poor workers.

They can't just do their jobs in this pandemic but that doesn't mean that they should not be paying their workers since it is their way of helping people in this hard times. Also, as far as I know he donated millions to fight covid19, but she can't pay her workers?

Brands would be brands. As celebs continue to buy and use it, fans and other people would do the same.

[bitbunnny]

Some say that this pandemic shows the best in people but I would say that is shows the worse.
One of examples are these workers but they are not the only ones. Many employess are in very bad situation because they employers don't want to give up their standard and way of life and share bad times with their workers. And really bad situation is not yet here.
This just shows how selfish and self centered people are and they think only on themselves.