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July 20, 2020, 06:54:05 PM
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Lol this has been the same comments that people are making in my country where I live. They are all saying that due to the quarantine that they are not going to die because of virus, it’s the hunger that’s going to kill them lol. That’s why a lot of them have strongly opposed the quarantine and are saying that they want to continue going for their jobs and prefer to main a social distance (which I know for sure that they wouldn’t).

But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.
Quarantine is indeed a lot that refuses because according to them it is not according to what was promised before they were treated like animals in brackets alone by being given potluck so many refused and rebels I think this also happened in my area.
Not all people are dependent on the Bank even now aid is always through an account so I think this way the government is less effective for the poor but it will be difficult for them to weigh food aid directly to their people.

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July 20, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.

If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?

If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
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July 20, 2020, 10:48:27 PM
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They are small workers, they can hardly find the money for their food so how come they can start their own brand?  Let's say even if they start their own brand, they can't easily make that business big compare to the company where they are working. It will be hard for them to export their products so they can only sell their products locally. But my concern is, would there be enough customers that will use bitcoin as payment.
Today, even though it has its own brands, marketing will also be difficult. The economy has worsened and many work rights have been dismissed sooner. So consumers will be reduced and their branded goods will not be sold easily. The capital needed is also quite a lot. Lack of skills makes small workers lose the opportunity to look for income in other occupations. What they hope for is assistance from the government as well as solutions for their survival.
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July 20, 2020, 11:18:04 PM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.
Yes, it may sound true but there are things that could be  done to this like helping  each other like cutting salary into which the owner can afford to give. If the owner really does not want to do give the salary to their employee then better to hold first their service render. It is also hard to pay them when the owner has no income at all and no funds to pay for it.

If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?
The problem is that business owner had prolong the agony on no income and paying salary to their employee. This has been a problem and thisn is why many business now were being temporarily closed because they could not affrod to give salary without imcome anymore. The Pandemic has been long enough like 3 months and this will force business owners to stop first the operation.

If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
Well not really like that but there are other options like cutting the numbers of workforce due to pandemic lesser income and few workforce needed. Also the company could close temporarily and can get back when things go back to normal.
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July 21, 2020, 12:59:11 AM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.
Yes, it may sound true but there are things that could be  done to this like helping  each other like cutting salary into which the owner can afford to give. If the owner really does not want to do give the salary to their employee then better to hold first their service render. It is also hard to pay them when the owner has no income at all and no funds to pay for it.
You're right, mate. They have to have a talk first that things are not going well because of the pandemic and their business might not be able to pay them like before. I'm sure their employees will understand the cut in salary because they are well aware of the situation. The most important thing is that they paid their employees. But this is most likely applicable to small businesses.

For those big names, on the other hand, owned by celebrities and not paying up, I don't think their employees deserve that. They should give them their salary because their the ones behind the production of the products that made them rich. Besides, probably that's not the only source of income they have. They're rich because of their profession and not their business alone so they can afford to pay their employees which are in big need in this trying time.

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July 21, 2020, 01:44:08 AM
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Lol this has been the same comments that people are making in my country where I live. They are all saying that due to the quarantine that they are not going to die because of virus, it’s the hunger that’s going to kill them lol. That’s why a lot of them have strongly opposed the quarantine and are saying that they want to continue going for their jobs and prefer to main a social distance (which I know for sure that they wouldn’t).

I kinda annoyed about this complain. To be honest, it's not logical because most people that always complain was those who's earning minimum wage and if ever they get virus on there job, they don't money for there hospital bills and they just made there lives more miserable. The government are giving support to all people which is sufficient if they will just used it wisely. I'm not against the minimum wager because I belong with them. I just don't want the way they think, they are risking there live for bit of money. The virus is not forever.

This pandemic really show us the importance of savings. I hope that everyone is safe.

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July 21, 2020, 06:52:32 AM
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The economic situation of many countries around the world is much worse The impact of the epidemic has been more on the poor people of the society Most of the workers are facing financial problems due to shortage of work and dismissal. Although the government has tried its best to help this help has not reached everyone Political leaders are intervening In that case poor people are living a life of starvation It is not possible to control everything completely until the virus is removed.

The economic situation will soon recover, and many countries will pass the worst situation because of the pandemic. People will search for new jobs offline or online because they need to have money to buy their daily needs. The government's help is not enough if the private business is not trying to do its best to reopen the new jobs for the people. If some workers don't get payment from their bosses, they don't need to come back to the old bosses, but they can search for another boss who can give them the new jobs.

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July 21, 2020, 07:49:26 AM
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I hate seeing famous celebs and big companies who refuse to pay workers because they are affected by COVID-19. Even though they don't want to
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.

From what I have seen, the level of greed is proportional to net worth. In most cases, middle-class individuals are more generous when compared to all those HNW and UHNW individuals. You can check various crowdfunding campaigns and it can be seen that almost all the contributions come from those who belong to the middle-class. The uber-rich very rarely take part in charity.

Anyway, that's their choice. If someone doesn't want to help others, then we can't intervene. It's his personal liberty. But here, it's different. The uber rich are refusing to pay salaries to their employees. This is plain despicable behaviour, and these people needs to be shamed for that.
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July 21, 2020, 07:57:06 AM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.
Yes, it may sound true but there are things that could be  done to this like helping  each other like cutting salary into which the owner can afford to give. If the owner really does not want to do give the salary to their employee then better to hold first their service render. It is also hard to pay them when the owner has no income at all and no funds to pay for it.
You're right, mate. They have to have a talk first that things are not going well because of the pandemic and their business might not be able to pay them like before. I'm sure their employees will understand the cut in salary because they are well aware of the situation. The most important thing is that they paid their employees. But this is most likely applicable to small businesses.

For those big names, on the other hand, owned by celebrities and not paying up, I don't think their employees deserve that. They should give them their salary because their the ones behind the production of the products that made them rich. Besides, probably that's not the only source of income they have. They're rich because of their profession and not their business alone so they can afford to pay their employees which are in big need in this trying time.

most celebrities that i know dont have a profesion but till the date they joined hollywood or showbizness they start to earn and save up eventually they invest and own a business . they also have a savings in the bank so its impossible that they cant pay   . they can sell thier stuffs too that they dont use alot or already excess like jewelries  , cars , gadgets  .  there so many ways and they cant do alibi's with that  .  paying little by litte is also alright than no payments at all  but as long as they pay on the exact given date
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July 21, 2020, 08:05:06 AM
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celebrities who don't pay their employees' salaries like taking advantage of this moment, they are really embarrassing.  I'm sure their income is not at all impacted heavily..
Yes that is a real shame and even if they are affected by the situation they should understand that they can easily manage the situation and not paying their workers is going to do a lot more harm than good. I mean it takes only a small initiative and people may boycott their brands and certainly the celebs can come back to their feet in no time.

It makes me feel so bad when people are saying this "I will die of hunger before I die of the virus" because this is so true and rich celebs sitting in their house eating chicken cannot imagine the situation and I actually wish people boycott their brands and raise their voice against such arrogant celebs because they are celeb as long as common people make them feel so.
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July 21, 2020, 08:32:56 PM
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The economic situation of many countries around the world is much worse The impact of the epidemic has been more on the poor people of the society Most of the workers are facing financial problems due to shortage of work and dismissal. Although the government has tried its best to help this help has not reached everyone Political leaders are intervening In that case poor people are living a life of starvation It is not possible to control everything completely until the virus is removed.

The economic situation will soon recover, and many countries will pass the worst situation because of the pandemic. People will search for new jobs offline or online because they need to have money to buy their daily needs. The government's help is not enough if the private business is not trying to do its best to reopen the new jobs for the people. If some workers don't get payment from their bosses, they don't need to come back to the old bosses, but they can search for another boss who can give them the new jobs.
Although as easy as it sounds there are more workers than boss and the brutal reality is that if you don't stick to your job now you might face much more troubles and the company owners know this and they are taking advantage of such times because they know if even they pay half the salary they can retain their workers or even get new ones.

That is the reason why jobs are always considered to be temporary because as long as you are useful to them they will allow and once they find a cheaper or better substitute you are out without a mistake being made. I personally feel that people should not leave their jobs during these times, no matter what!
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July 21, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
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This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.

They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.

I know that. It is just that even though these companies are affected, those people above have their complete meals, have their own house for them to be safe from the virus, have their family secured even weeks and weeks of quarantine or lockdowns while those poor workers can't do that. Life is unfair but I hope they should really consider paying them even half since they really needed it.

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July 21, 2020, 09:11:16 PM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.

If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?

If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
There was a similar case I heard in gambling section where the casinos were not paying their workers while some casinos were paying so this is happening everywhere but it feels worst when rich and royal people do this. Maybe in future there should be a bond/clause where the labour must be paid if there is a pandemic situation like this and the worker has no option to earn.

There are some basketball players who paid their workers and donated for the relief funds while there are people by kylie Jenner who just cannot pay their owner workers. This is the time when we get to know our real heroes and selfish people are also spotted.
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July 21, 2020, 09:32:09 PM
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That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.

If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?

If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.
There was a similar case I heard in gambling section where the casinos were not paying their workers while some casinos were paying so this is happening everywhere but it feels worst when rich and royal people do this. Maybe in future there should be a bond/clause where the labour must be paid if there is a pandemic situation like this and the worker has no option to earn.

There are some basketball players who paid their workers and donated for the relief funds while there are people by kylie Jenner who just cannot pay their owner workers. This is the time when we get to know our real heroes and selfish people are also spotted.
Well said!..

On this pandemic situation we are in, its understandable that there would be changes since it would be mainly affecting all sorts of business and industries throughout the globe and losing

profits or revenue is part of it which do even cause total bankruptcy and closure of such business.Lets talk about wage or workers salary.Its just really part of the responsibility as an owner to pay

up its workers hard work.Its just inhuman if you do just call it quits or would tend to pay it out.
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July 22, 2020, 05:24:03 AM
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This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.

They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.

I know that. It is just that even though these companies are affected, those people above have their complete meals, have their own house for them to be safe from the virus, have their family secured even weeks and weeks of quarantine or lockdowns while those poor workers can't do that. Life is unfair but I hope they should really consider paying them even half since they really needed it.
Life is really unfair to those who are under those successful and rich people because they can't buy everything they need and ever wanted, that is why they work hard to reach their goals and become successful in life. But in the middle of a pandemic, the poor people become poorer that a lot of people have lost most of their jobs and gives them a huge problem with how they would live and feed their families every day.

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July 22, 2020, 05:45:54 AM
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Although as easy as it sounds there are more workers than boss and the brutal reality is that if you don't stick to your job now you might face much more troubles and the company owners know this and they are taking advantage of such times because they know if even they pay half the salary they can retain their workers or even get new ones.

That is the reason why jobs are always considered to be temporary because as long as you are useful to them they will allow and once they find a cheaper or better substitute you are out without a mistake being made. I personally feel that people should not leave their jobs during these times, no matter what!

I feel that because I have that experience before. That is a pain for me at that time, but I cannot do anything. Some of them can back to the old job during the other search for the new job because they cannot continue to work in the old company. The company will substitute with other peoples if they think that we cannot work better, and that is easy for the company to search for new workers. If the old workers can still give their best to the company, they will still work for that company.

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July 22, 2020, 06:28:18 AM
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It is awful and absurd for the part of those people who have been working for celebrities that have not received any help or support from their bosses at this time of pandemic just because their businesses are temporarily close. May they at least give some concern or at least give a handful of their stored wealth to help those people that have been working for them and have been one of the keys behind their success. That would be just a small percentage of their wealth that they can surely regain once this pandemic is over and once their businesses have reopened once again. May they at least give a hand for those who are needy because seriously, this quarantine due to pandemic is unfavorable for the poor people because indeed they are safe inside their house but there are also other things that they need to survive. May the celebrities just treat the help they would give as a good deed or social responsibility for they can still have more than enough of money right beside them.

A little support for those workers would do since they were seriously affected for being temporarily jobless because of the pandemic.
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July 22, 2020, 09:10:52 AM
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To these "bosses" the workers are nothing more than tools that you use and throw away when they are no longer needed. The only way they can fight is by refusing to work for those people who are known as dishonest and exposing them in the Internet and the media. They more proof they're able to gather the better because for those people (celebrities and brands) the only thing that matters is the public image. Damage that and you'll have them on their knees.

That is common in every private business and not only in celebrities.The first reason for what a private company works is to maximize their profit and they do not really care about workers that much.That is why sindicates were created to stop the tyranny of the owners versus their workers.I think everyone who does this should be punished by law and we should enforce this otherwise this will never change.

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July 22, 2020, 12:04:33 PM
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This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.

They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.

I know that. It is just that even though these companies are affected, those people above have their complete meals, have their own house for them to be safe from the virus, have their family secured even weeks and weeks of quarantine or lockdowns while those poor workers can't do that. Life is unfair but I hope they should really consider paying them even half since they really needed it.
Life is really unfair to those who are under those successful and rich people because they can't buy everything they need and ever wanted, that is why they work hard to reach their goals and become successful in life. But in the middle of a pandemic, the poor people become poorer that a lot of people have lost most of their jobs and gives them a huge problem with how they would live and feed their families every day.

Even with the thing they just need, that is just fine. With a helping hand they would be able to secure their lives in this pandemic, help is what they need but the thing is that even though there are hands that are willing to help, those hands are not enough. They really have it rough. We can't really remove poverty in this world.

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July 22, 2020, 06:22:36 PM
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People are not ready to go for this lockdown, they can't do it. This is why I am not happy with China, their government that refused to reveal this situation on time, and they didn't even take action by stopping air travels to other countries as a way to stop the virus from going into other countries.

If they did the things they are supposed to do, we wouldn't be here today worrying about how to go on lockdown and all these worries we are having right now. It is just not easy, some companies won't have money to pay their workers because there is no income coming in. But, I think they should still find a way to settle those people for the work they have done before now.

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