Clarification of a rule, Can we get a managers board

[Little Mouse]

For example competition about reducing participants rewards and so on.

Does this work that way? I can not deny that I am one of the managers who contacted with couple of gambling projects if they were going to advertise in the forum. But always I tried to increase their budget as much as possible because without a good rate, you will not get good poster and without good poster, your campaign will never be a success.
If someone sent mass PM, that will be spam in my opinion. I used to send 1/2 PM every one month maximum back in the day but I do not PM anymore since they are never that good. However, I do not think it's rule breaking.

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[amishmanish]

Are there even that many companies in the services board to whom a manager can send such a PM?? Most of the casinos already have a signature campaign or have had one in the past. Just about anybody should be able to send a simple message asking the potential client whether they are interested in some form of advertisement. In case they show interest by replying, the manager can then show them portfolio, results and such.

Campaign management space has become very competitive lately with a lot of new people offering such services. Ditto for people looking to stack sats in signature campaigns. There is less fish in the sea and more fishing boats with every passing day. If a separate board means a more professional approach and standardization of these services, then its a welcome move. But that would need a far more collaborative approach between all stakeholders (including forum admin, staff and companies that choose to advertise) than just a separate space for CMs.

No, we should not give campaign managers a place to receive prominent advertising space via the creation of a child board just for signature campaign managers. 

No. I disagree with it.

The forum is not built for signatures as well as signature industry (campaigns, managements, etc.). Wearing a signature on the forum is a privilege, not a right for anyone of us. The same goes for signature / bounty campaign managements. Signature and the whole related industry can be disabled in a blink of eyes if theymos seriously takes action.

Your disagreement to his disagreement results in agreement to the original suggestion. Your explanation says otherwise..Which one is it?

[TheUltraElite]

The gist of this thread can be linked to the question - Which one came first, the chick or the egg? 

Of course the forum came first. Then came the signature campaigns mainly Primedice at one time and then came the concept of signature campaign managers.

While I detest the fact that PMing the project owner to get the manager to start a campaign for them, I would also point out that majority of campaigns are no longer the 1-2+ year long age old apart from CM, the casino signatures. The point is that if the project owners feel the need for publicity they will approach a manager first and not the reverse way.

Secondly the manager approaching the owner also makes the owner to a different stance: The owner thinks, lets try this marketing and see if it goes well for a few weeks. But this does not have immediate effects. The fact that this forum has given generous amount of traffic to many casinos is because the signatures ran here for several months to years. Just a couple of weeks will have very little spurt of traffic giving a false impression to the owners.

Again the need is important too. If the owners need marketing they are likely to run the campaign for long too. The side who is approaching first becomes important here both for the owners and the managers.

My point is that PMing the owner and dont get me wrong, "pitching" yourself to the manager has a bad long term effect for the campaign because of what I stated above it would not last long.

However I can understand the point of view of the manager and their enthusiasm in this regard but we must all remind ourselves that the forum came first and not the campaigns. It is a privilege that the administration allows these projects and it is not a right.

[akhjob]

As others have mentioned that if a child board is created for Campaign Managers others services like designers, escrows, translators would also ask for their respective child boards. I am not going into the unofficial rule regarding unsolicited PMs. I think the main concern here is the lack of visibility of the service thread of reputed campaign managers which somehow forces them to PM potential customers.

We already have these in the service discussion Board.
List of Campaign Managers - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228596.0
List of Escrows - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0
List of Translators - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214430.0
List of Designers - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610428.0

So, instead of creating a new child board which clearly is not needed, I would suggest that some reputed member to create a thread with all the four lists and then ask the mods to pin it on top of the Service Board. I think that would solve the problem.