French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[len01]

There isn't much of a rich team in the Ligue 1 except PSG right now. Therefore it doesn't make sense to expect them to invest into their squad with a lot of money suddenly.

They don't have an oil-rich owner I'm afraid...  Tongue  If one day this changes then we can talk about how much the balances would be upset in this league.

Until then we will have to endure PSG winning the league nearly all the time.

There are several other options that don't require waiting for a major investor to boost the finances of other Ligue 1 teams to compete with PSG.

Recall the era when PSG secured a major investor from Qatar. At that time, PSG's dominance was broken by Monaco, and Monaco boasted several talented players, including Mbappe. Monaco's collapse allowed Mbappe to join PSG. It's as if Monaco chose money over titles.

This is one example of how other teams can compete with PSG without spending a fortune; they can simply develop young talent and stop selling their best players to PSG.

[bitgolden]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

[fuguebtc]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

Rosenior is not very experienced. He was only  41 years old. It was very difficult for him to manage a big club like Chelsea. It was a mistake of chelsea management to give responsibility to someone  as inexperienced as Rosenior. But the scenario of ligue 1 is different. It is not as  competitive as premier league.

Paris fc managed  to qualify for ligue 1 last season. And they  performed quite well. They probably finished the season in 10th place in the table. Rosenior can be a good choice for a  team like Paris fc. Rosenior even has the potential to do well in ligue 1.

[Oluwa-btc]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

He had a short time with Chelsea but happenings like this are what shapes a manager. As Jose Mourinho would say,until you've been sacked, you're not a manager.
He will be successful in with Paris FC most definitely just as he did with Strasbourg.
There's no energy analysing his failures with Chelsea. Let us hope that he has a good time with  Paris FC. The management rewarded with this role, I hope he repays them with a win.

Felipe Luis is now the new coach for As Monaco though.

[Wake Up]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

He had a short time with Chelsea but happenings like this are what shapes a manager. As Jose Mourinho would say,until you've been sacked, you're not a manager.
He will be successful in with Paris FC most definitely just as he did with Strasbourg.
There's no energy analysing his failures with Chelsea. Let us hope that he has a good time with  Paris FC. The management rewarded with this role, I hope he repays them with a win.

Felipe Luis is now the new coach for As Monaco though.

We'll see if he can make a difference in France. Paris FC is a team that wants to raise its level in France. So I hope they don't regret this choice in changing managers. His Chelsea career was very short. I hope he doesn't experience something similar in France. Of course, he will be under less stress because he is not at a team with the same expectations as Chelsea.

[Velvet78]

There are several other options that don't require waiting for a major investor to boost the finances of other Ligue 1 teams to compete with PSG.

Recall the era when PSG secured a major investor from Qatar. At that time, PSG's dominance was broken by Monaco, and Monaco boasted several talented players, including Mbappe. Monaco's collapse allowed Mbappe to join PSG. It's as if Monaco chose money over titles.

This is one example of how other teams can compete with PSG without spending a fortune; they can simply develop young talent and stop selling their best players to PSG.

Monaco is still trying to do the same thing you mentioned actually. However they just can't build a dream team with youngsters like that again yet. That was a really golden era of them! 

Focusing on young talents isn't a main objective for every team. Monaco is like the Dortmund of Ligue 1 about it or vice versa. Maybe one day they can bring back those days. Maybe even while Filipe Luis is managing them...

[bangjoe]

I know that the two seasons before last Lens were only 7th and 8th in the table which is a mid-table team and last season they managed to break it all with more satisfactory results despite not being in the first position as winners, consistency is difficult but it does not mean they do not have the opportunity to repeat it, I think staying in the top 4 of the season now is good enough that we can say also that they are consistent enough even though they are not in the second or third position, as long as entering the top 4 is very enough.

Beating PSG is very difficult we know that then the most realistic is the position of 2,3,4 to be contested in each season.

That is not a good thing, in fact that is a very bad thing. Teams like Monaco and Marseille and even to a degree Lyon now, all spend money and then they end up being inconsistent and that is why Ligue 1 is seen as a farmers league. The problem isn't the money, they have money and yet they fail.

Lens for example did great, sure, that is awesome for them and I congratulate them for it, how many of you would bet me that next season they will not be in top three? I am 99.99% sure that they will not be there.

Yes let's see what will happen in the next season, I know how Marseille, Monaco, Lille and even Lyon or Brest in the 2023-2024 season can be in the top three, his probability to be consistent for a team other than PSG is hard to believe, but is it wrong to be optimistic with it all, I think it will not matter, although we do not have to bet whether Lens will stay in the top 4 or not, but if he is able to be in that position, is not it very remarkable and his consistency efforts cannot be underestimated?

[GiftedMAN]

There are several other options that don't require waiting for a major investor to boost the finances of other Ligue 1 teams to compete with PSG.

Recall the era when PSG secured a major investor from Qatar. At that time, PSG's dominance was broken by Monaco, and Monaco boasted several talented players, including Mbappe. Monaco's collapse allowed Mbappe to join PSG. It's as if Monaco chose money over titles.

This is one example of how other teams can compete with PSG without spending a fortune; they can simply develop young talent and stop selling their best players to PSG.

Monaco is still trying to do the same thing you mentioned actually. However they just can't build a dream team with youngsters like that again yet. That was a really golden era of them! 

Focusing on young talents isn't a main objective for every team. Monaco is like the Dortmund of Ligue 1 about it or vice versa. Maybe one day they can bring back those days. Maybe even while Filipe Luis is managing them...

"Monaco is like Dortmund of Ligue 1". I doubt I'll read any truer statement in this thread today than what you said.  Monaco were doing exceptionally well then in the French league and even went on to win the league in the 2016–2017 French Ligue 1 season before selling most of their talented youngsters to their big clubs in Europe. I don't know of they'll be able to develop a team with such number if talented youngsters again. Financially, they obviously can't match Paris Saint Germaine so developing young talents is surely the best approach but if they succeed in doing that, I hope they'll not sell them off for big fees again?

[Slow death]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

But he was interim manager of Derby County, after that he became manager of Hull City, and you see, he stayed at Hull City for a long time, something like two seasons, after that he became manager of Strasbourg. He had a lot of experience, so the argument that he needed more experience or more time at Chelsea doesn't hold water when you look at the case of Manchester United, who are worse than Chelsea, but Michael Carrick came along and put Manchester United in third place. And you see, Michael Carrick isn't that different from Liam Rosenior in terms of the level of teams he's managed in the past. We have to admit, as a manager he still lacks skills and things will only get worse for him in this new team, because it's not a team with many financial resources and they're fighting to avoid relegation.

[el kaka22]

Paris FC is famously owned by rich people as well, maybe not as rich as PSG but still rich people and I think that means we are going to see them do some good moves and hope to go to top four levels. Could they be consistently there? Well depends on how much money they are willing to spend, if they are willing to spend a lot of money then this could happen, but most of the time we are not seeing that.

I think the best case for all of us would be that Paris FC at least poses some challenge to PSG but I do not see that happening anytime soon.  PSG is the best team in the world, so Paris FC should not try to beat them, they should try to be second place for a few years in a row, that alone is a huge task and if they can do that, then things will get better.

[wakier]

Money is certainly important, but it's never the sole factor. If it were, Chelsea, who have spent huge sums of money for years, wouldn't have achieved such great success. However, Paris Saint-Germain has completely transformed into a top-tier football organization. Their manager and coaching staff are all top-tier individuals. The chairman's investment in the club is immense. They are especially bringing in fantastic players from their youth academy. Paris Saint-Germain is now one of the best teams in the world. This is the result of a well-managed process.

I agree with you, you can have a lot of money, but you have to know how to manage it. Managing it isn't easy at all, but even so, I admire the Sheikh. I remember when they had that great trident of Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe and they couldn't do absolutely anything. I thought it was incredible, but if they had had a Luis Enrique from the beginning, it would be a different story.

It's true that it's not just about money, but also how they can bring in the right coach to be able to develop the team game. Many clubs have a lot of money and are able to manage their money well but can't win titles. This is due to mistakes in managing strategy and player play. So, if you want to be a successful team, you need a balance between finances and the right team manager.
Yes, if Luis Enrique had arrived earlier, perhaps PSG would still be the strongest team and always a candidate for the UCL title.

[G_Besar]

It's true that it's not just about money, but also how they can bring in the right coach to be able to develop the team game. Many clubs have a lot of money and are able to manage their money well but can't win titles. This is due to mistakes in managing strategy and player play. So, if you want to be a successful team, you need a balance between finances and the right team manager.
Yes, if Luis Enrique had arrived earlier, perhaps PSG would still be the strongest team and always a candidate for the UCL title.

I also think so, because nowadays, the coach is also the key to a team's success, as teams have more money and more skilled players in every line. So I quite agree with what you said.

[M47AK16]

Rosenior was not great at Chelsea, but he was quite decent at Strasbourg, so if he goes to Paris FC, then I think he will be fine.

The problem he had with Chelsea was that it was a team way above his status, and he was not ready for it, he needed a bit more time and experience before he could go there. Now he is going to be great at Paris FC if that deal is 100% done. I have not seen it anywhere other than just rumours, there is nothing official about it yet, but if it does happen, I think he will do fine.

He had a short time with Chelsea but happenings like this are what shapes a manager. As Jose Mourinho would say,until you've been sacked, you're not a manager.
He will be successful in with Paris FC most definitely just as he did with Strasbourg.
There's no energy analysing his failures with Chelsea. Let us hope that he has a good time with  Paris FC. The management rewarded with this role, I hope he repays them with a win.

Felipe Luis is now the new coach for As Monaco though.

Yeah, if he fixes it and becomes good again then yeah that is how you grow, but if you do not then I am not sure if I would listen to Mourinho about it. Mourinho made more money in the last 10 years off his severance for being fired, than actually being in charge of a team, and he will be fired from Real Madrid as well, we all know it, he will not manage until end of his contract.

So the fact that Rosenior got someone like that as an example would be bad, get yourself someone like Pep. If he does well at Paris FC, then all is fine, if he does not, then two bad in a row will be a problem.

[Black Mbaye]

Money is certainly important, but it's never the sole factor. If it were, Chelsea, who have spent huge sums of money for years, wouldn't have achieved such great success. However, Paris Saint-Germain has completely transformed into a top-tier football organization. Their manager and coaching staff are all top-tier individuals. The chairman's investment in the club is immense. They are especially bringing in fantastic players from their youth academy. Paris Saint-Germain is now one of the best teams in the world. This is the result of a well-managed process.

I agree with you, you can have a lot of money, but you have to know how to manage it. Managing it isn't easy at all, but even so, I admire the Sheikh. I remember when they had that great trident of Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe and they couldn't do absolutely anything. I thought it was incredible, but if they had had a Luis Enrique from the beginning, it would be a different story.

It's true that it's not just about money, but also how they can bring in the right coach to be able to develop the team game. Many clubs have a lot of money and are able to manage their money well but can't win titles. This is due to mistakes in managing strategy and player play. So, if you want to be a successful team, you need a balance between finances and the right team manager.
Yes, if Luis Enrique had arrived earlier, perhaps PSG would still be the strongest team and always a candidate for the UCL title.

Luis Enrique is an extraordinary manager. Along with Pep Guardiola, he's one of my two favorite managers lately. Winning the Champions League two years in a row and leading Paris Saint-Germain to spectacular successes has earned him even more recognition as a manager. They won the championship by eliminating many strong European opponents. This year, they dominated both matches against a very strong opponent like Bayern Munich, reaching the final with one win and one draw. They didn't lose to Bayern Munich. In the final, they played superiorly against Arsenal and, despite a draw, won on penalties. Therefore, I think he deserves immense praise as a manager.

[pewboy]

Paris fc managed  to qualify for ligue 1 last season. And they  performed quite well. They probably finished the season in 10th place in the table. Rosenior can be a good choice for a  team like Paris fc. Rosenior even has the potential to do well in ligue 1.

I believe that this is not a question of age, he doesn't have to play and be a player in the middle of the pitch, but he has to manage a club of players, i think that the championship has a huge impact anyway, in fact League 1 is much simpler as a championship compared to the English Premier League.

[Qhunman]

It's true that it's not just about money, but also how they can bring in the right coach to be able to develop the team game. Many clubs have a lot of money and are able to manage their money well but can't win titles. This is due to mistakes in managing strategy and player play. So, if you want to be a successful team, you need a balance between finances and the right team manager.
Yes, if Luis Enrique had arrived earlier, perhaps PSG would still be the strongest team and always a candidate for the UCL title.

Money speaks more volumes because even with the right coach and then they can't afford to buy quality players they still won't be able end PSG dominance. Squad depth is what makes psg outstandings from the other teams and they were able to sign players because they can afford their fees if PSG didn't develop their team into what is has become, their dominance in the french ligue 1 would have ended along time ago..PSG is standing tall in their league not because they attracted the right coach but it's because they have the money to sign any big player they're interested in.

[wakier]

Yes let's see what will happen in the next season, I know how Marseille, Monaco, Lille and even Lyon or Brest in the 2023-2024 season can be in the top three, his probability to be consistent for a team other than PSG is hard to believe, but is it wrong to be optimistic with it all, I think it will not matter, although we do not have to bet whether Lens will stay in the top 4 or not, but if he is able to be in that position, is not it very remarkable and his consistency efforts cannot be underestimated?

It is not wrong to expect a team to perform consistently for the next seasons but as we know it is difficult to expect these teams to perform consistently in League 1 except PSG, every team will make changes and there will always be changes every season if Lens can maintain its performance like this season and is still able to compete in the top 3 then Lens shows competitiveness for PSG meaning Lens really has a great determination to beat PSG but we will see what next season is like don't expect too much if you are not ready to be disappointed.

[Razmirraz]

Snip.

It's true that it's not just about money, but also how they can bring in the right coach to be able to develop the team game. Many clubs have a lot of money and are able to manage their money well but can't win titles. This is due to mistakes in managing strategy and player play. So, if you want to be a successful team, you need a balance between finances and the right team manager.
Yes, if Luis Enrique had arrived earlier, perhaps PSG would still be the strongest team and always a candidate for the UCL title.

Financial balance and the manager vision are the main keys to a club's dominance in a competition, the right tactics have been proven to take a club beyond just investing in quality players. PSG has transformed into a respected team in Europe since Luis Enrique took over as coach, and he has also proven his capacity as a great coach after leading PSG to win the Champions League trophy. The management made the right decision in appointing him as coach because his presence proved to be the perfect catalyst in building a strong and collective team game plan. The right investment for a club to make is in a coach who can maximize the potential of ordinary players to become an unmatched force in Europe. Previously, Man City had done it first when they brought in Guardiola, now the same thing has been done by PSG.

[KTChampions]

Paris FC is famously owned by rich people as well, maybe not as rich as PSG but still rich people and I think that means we are going to see them do some good moves and hope to go to top four levels. Could they be consistently there? Well depends on how much money they are willing to spend, if they are willing to spend a lot of money then this could happen, but most of the time we are not seeing that.

I think the best case for all of us would be that Paris FC at least poses some challenge to PSG but I do not see that happening anytime soon.  PSG is the best team in the world, so Paris FC should not try to beat them, they should try to be second place for a few years in a row, that alone is a huge task and if they can do that, then things will get better.

You know, I think I can easily bet big money on the assumption that the owner of a football club is a rich man! I didn't see any names of ordinary people there.
Comparison with PSG is inappropriate since it’s not even a rich person involved, but an entire state. As I understand it, Paris's budget is around 100 million, while many PSG players cost more than this figure. There can be no comparisons here. Another thing is that if we remove PSG from the discussion, then competition with other clubs is possible.

[snipie]

You know, I think I can easily bet big money on the assumption that the owner of a football club is a rich man! I didn't see any names of ordinary people there.
Comparison with PSG is inappropriate since it’s not even a rich person involved, but an entire state. As I understand it, Paris's budget is around 100 million, while many PSG players cost more than this figure. There can be no comparisons here. Another thing is that if we remove PSG from the discussion, then competition with other clubs is possible.

Paris FC owners might not be a state on paper but if you analyse the names there and their wealth, you will understand how powerful and rich they are. They might even surpass Qatari backed PSG.
From now on, Paris FC will put more and more money for the transfers and we might see some top players there. For the moment, they added a central midfield, Patrick Zabi, to the squad coming from Reims.