Do you think COVID19 is a scam?

[hornetsnest]

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[Tash]

The test certainly are.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/joseph-mercola/covid-19-testing-scandal-deepens/

Why PCR Tests Are the Wrong Tool to Assess Pandemic Threat

We now know that PCR tests:
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1.Cannot distinguish between “live” viruses and inactive (noninfectious) viral particles and therefore cannot be used as a diagnostic tool — For this reason, it is grossly misleading to refer to a positive test as a “COVID-19 case.”

2.Cannot confirm that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms as the test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.

3.Have not been established for monitoring the treatment of 2019-nCoV infection.

4.Have exceptionally high false result rates — The higher the cycle threshold (CT) — i.e., the number of amplification cycles used to detect RNA particles — the greater the chance of a false positive.

5.Not peer reviewed.

While any CT over 35 is deemed scientifically unjustifiable,2,3,4 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend running PCR tests at a CT of 40.5

Drosten tests and tests recommended by the World Health Organization are set to a CT of 45. These excessively high CTs guarantee the appearance of widespread (pandemic) infection when infection rates are in fact low

[vaultman]

Now on the Internet, a large number of people downplay the importance of this disease, which leads to bad consequences. I think that there is even no point in proving the opposite, since many have already seen patients from this virus with their own eyes, or they themselves have already had a new disease caused by the virus. You need to isolate yourself as much as possible from society and wait for better times when new viruses will be studied in more detail and drugs are invented to fight them. It's always better to learn from someone else's mistakes, not from yours.

[BayAreaCoins]

Now on the Internet, a large number of people downplay the importance of this disease, which leads to bad consequences. I think that there is even no point in proving the opposite, since many have already seen patients from this virus with their own eyes, or they themselves have already had a new disease caused by the virus. You need to isolate yourself as much as possible from society and wait for better times when new viruses will be studied in more detail and drugs are invented to fight them. It's always better to learn from someone else's mistakes, not from yours.

COVID-19 is a scam... fraud... over-exaggerated.... whatever you want to call this.

People are fucking retard.  COVID isn't the new AIDS (remember all those aids regulations?  Porn did get a few... I guess.)  

I'd much rather catch COVID than the flu.

This year has just outlined the mental illness of the masses and the fact they are so desperate to feel important/wanted that they will play invisible monsters with anyone that will listen.  I have found that a LOT of COVID19 Doomsdayers.... also think they are going to die from Global Warming.  (We shall see I suppose)

Here is the propaganda of the week:  https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/mother-shares-bloody-images-of-sons-covid-19-hospital-room/

Hope, we all take it SUPER SRSLY now! (it's funny that every propaganda article ends like that... what a world....)

[Natsuu]

~SNIP~

COVID-19 is a scam... fraud... over-exaggerated.... whatever you want to call this.

People are fucking retard.  COVID isn't the new AIDS (remember all those aids regulations?  Porn did get a few... I guess.)  

I'd much rather catch COVID than the flu.

I can't see the relationship between HIV/AIDS and COVID, as if they have something in similar, I guess your basis for comparison for this one is that they are both "VIRUS" huh 

This is the mindset of different people in the state, just to make themselves redeem the "freedom" as if someone stole it from them.

COVID is a serious disease that targets the immune system, and of course, you won't notice the effect cause people with other health conditions are the ones suffering from this one. Covid pretty much lowers your immune system, which results in other conditions that really cause a harmful effect to your body.

But I do agree that many people take advantage of this pandemic, but nonetheless, covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

[Tash]

I can't see the relationship between HIV/AIDS and COVID, as if they have something in similar,...........ously

Both use a scam test to test if you are "sick".
If you test positiv like Michael "Magic" Johnson and others and do nothing you happy live 40+ years.If you take the medicine you done within a few years at best.
Covid is the bigger brother of the aids scam.
117 min Documentary https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/hiv-aids-fact-or-fraud/

.....covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

Its a real thing in the media, without it you would not know it exist. Turn of TV and your cured.

[BayAreaCoins]

I can't see the relationship between HIV/AIDS and COVID

as if they have something in similar

 

they are both "VIRUS"

COVID is a serious disease that targets the immune system, and of course, you won't notice the effect cause people with other health conditions are the ones suffering from this one. Covid pretty much lowers your immune system, which results in other conditions that really cause a harmful effect to your body.

Do you know what AIDS is?

"Human immunodeficiency virus infection and acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (HIV/AIDS) is a spectrum of conditions caused by infection with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[9][10][11] Following initial infection a person may not notice any symptoms, or may experience a brief period of influenza-like illness.[4] Typically, this is followed by a prolonged period with no symptoms.[5] If the infection progresses, it interferes more with the immune system, increasing the risk of developing common infections such as tuberculosis, as well as other opportunistic infections, and tumors which are otherwise rare in people who have normal immune function."

covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

COVID is far from new and no one is saying it's fake, it's just being sold to the public in a super scammy way and people like you eat that shit up!

Molecular clock dating analyses of coronaviruses suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago.

 

[TwitchySeal]

covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

COVID is far from new and no one is saying it's fake, it's just being sold to the public in a super scammy way and people like you eat that shit up!

Molecular clock dating analyses of coronaviruses suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago.

 

I think it's safe to assume he was referring to the disease covid-19, which is caused by a recently (about a year ago) discovered corona virus.

covid-19 = corona virus disease that was discovered in 2019.

[BayAreaCoins]

covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

COVID is far from new and no one is saying it's fake, it's just being sold to the public in a super scammy way and people like you eat that shit up!

Molecular clock dating analyses of coronaviruses suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago.

 

I think it's safe to assume he was referring to the disease covid-19, which is caused by a recently (about a year ago) discovered corona virus.

The world is constantly changing and evolving... Corona Virus appears to have been around for 10,000 years.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-strain-found-in-denmark-netherlands-and-australia-says-who-12169262

You could probably find a new COVID every other week if you were looking for it, but it's not dangerous to healthy humans.  Resources are much better off flowing into other avenues that are actually killing healthy (and sick) people every day...

It's been around 10,000 years and most people just heard about it a few months ago.  I remember not long ago a COVID strain going through dogs. I come from a family that used to show Cocker Spaniels... COVID obviously didn't kill off all the puppers and I seriously doubt anyone even remembers this dog COVID.  PSA: The government didn't save all the dogs of the world with masks, regulations, or pointless fear tactics using our taxpayer's money to advertise on Netflix/Hulu/Reddit/Facebook/Billboards!

I just can't imagine AIDS being around 10,000 years, humans knowing about it, people realizing 100% of people fucking DIE from it, but it only becoming a hot topic after the media in the 80's/90's!  No or very little media required for "real" big issues in my opinion.

Maybe I think people are smarter than they actually are, but I know if I start seeing people drop like flies or actually even get sick... I don't need big government to advertise to me through Netflix that I should be worried.  

People make COVID sound like AIDS or something else terrible that's a lifelong battle or death sentence, lol which couldn't be further from the truth... the reality is if you are healthy and you catch COVID... you'll probably just sit at home making TikToks and Snapchats of you eating weird shit and giggling about it.  

People who know how to milk things seem to have COVID longer:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/09/canadian-woman-long-hauler-coronavirus/

The scammy lady lawyer from above has had COVID for 250+ days   !!! (Despite testing negative lol... she still has COVID in her imagination and that's as good as real for her!)

I almost think these people are hypnotized.  I watched a hypnotist manipulate peoples taste buds and it was AFTER he brought them out of the hypnosis state... these suggestions stick around while we are conscious.  The dude told them "you are going to be really thirsty when you wake up.  The first drink you take is going to taste HORRIBLE, but the second drink is going to be the best taste you've ever had."  All be fucking damned if the people didn't spit out their first sip and chug the second one!!! None of them remembered the suggestion either... wild shit.

I'm totally fine with people believing whatever they want and living their own lives, but I really dislike when other people start using a Government to boss folks around due to their invisible monster beliefs.  America either needs to follow our constitution or change it IMO... not be a "Bandwagon" country that swings drastically and flys her flag at half staff for practically anything.  (I feel like the American flag is at half staff a LOT of the time.  Half staff should be something fucking super serious or people start ignoring it and lose the respect for it. [off topic, but feels relevant.])

One last thing that annoys me... these fucking speaks and their podiums... I can't stand being told about germs and viruses by someone who touches their face, then touches the podium, and then touches the face again!!!!!  Plus breathing on the same fucking mic.  Watch, it happens literally every time in every set of speakers.  It's painful for me and I can't fathom how people take them seriously...

[franky1]

Why PCR Tests Are the Wrong Tool to Assess Pandemic Threat

We now know that PCR tests:
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1.Cannot distinguish between “live” viruses and inactive (noninfectious) viral particles and therefore cannot be used as a diagnostic tool — For this reason, it is grossly misleading to refer to a positive test as a “COVID-19 case.”

a virus is not 'alive' it is just genetic code wrapped up in a ball.

2.Cannot confirm that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms as the test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.

they actually have. they have isolated the virus so in samples the only thing left in the sample is the virus. then they put these samples into other animal specimens and seen their reaction.
when the reactions in the animal species match the reaction in humans they can determine the causal relationship.
the koch rivers and bell test was done many many months ago. about the same time as your stupid conspiracy sites were saying it had not been done.
your script from kaufman in march-april was based on his (lack) of research in january february. where he said america did not do their own tests to validate the asian tests. but in january there were no cases in america.. however by february there were and america did do the tests using their own methods. which did validate the asian tests. so kaufman in march using bad outdated research from january was instantly debunked.
yet idiots like you and badecker are quoting the debunked stuff in december.. because you idiots dont do your own research before repeating crappy scripts from your crappy sites

3.Have not been established for monitoring the treatment of 2019-nCoV infection.

doctors treat the symptoms. a PCR test takes 24 hours so repeatedly testing someone every 6 hours. and waiting 24 hours to get the results of the test 4 tests ago is not a good way to treat someone. doctors instead treat the symptom the patient is suffering at that minute. not the result of something 24 hours ago

4.Have exceptionally high false result rates — The higher the cycle threshold (CT) — i.e., the number of amplification cycles used to detect RNA particles — the greater the chance of a false positive.

the PCR process works
the inconsistances are based not on the PCR but on:
if the swab is not inserted and rubbed against the insides of the nose/throat well enough
if the person being tested is tested too early or too late into their infection

these are human factors and nothing to do with the PCR equipment
EG someone being swabbed on day 1 of infection may have a CT of 38 because its not yet incubated.
whereas if they were swabbed again on day 6 they would have a CT of 26 due to it having time to incubate in their body
so being told a 'negative' at day one but then presenting with symptoms at day 7 does not mean the PCR equipment is faulty. it means the human decided time to get tested was wrong

this is why most countries. when they track and trace people that come into contact with sick people. they do not test them on day 1. they suggest arranging a test at day 5 or having a test if they have symptoms to make sure what they have matches the known isolate.

its also why PCR tests are done by appointment where people go to a location where they will be swabbed by someone that has been trained to insert the swab and rub the nasel/throat passage properly
..
the only times there have been errors with the PCR equipment is when foolish humans mix up the chemicals and create bad batches of reagents. but this is where in march better processes were put in place to use and test the batches of reagents and use disposible pippettes to avoid cross contamination..
.. again this is something sorted out in march. where again your old outdated scripts are now debunked

a good example of getting a good swab is using the same forensic protocol as CSI. a bad example is the guy that was touching a swab and then put it in cola and then not using any reagants and not waiting for the time to pass. (yes the guy that said cola has covid dun goofed and failed his own experiment)

5.Not peer reviewed.

While any CT over 35 is deemed scientifically unjustifiable,2,3,4 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend running PCR tests at a CT of 40.5

it has been peer review. PCR tests are not new. the tech has been around for along time. its used in forensic science to find dna of criminals via swaps taken at a crime scene
the process of isolating dna and RNA has been proven
and as said the bell rivers koch has proven what they have isolated causes the covid symptoms
its been peer reviewed in hundreds of countries by thousands of doctors.
.. again when america done the bell, koch rivers in february to validate the asian tests in december/january this is what peer reviewing is. following the example and if the same result happens. then the process is right
some countries also used different processes which backed up the end result.

as for the CT. they dont run the tests 100 - 1000 times like you conspiracy nuts say
and that 35 is not an exact figure/threshold. so they run it a couple more times just to be sure

Drosten tests and tests recommended by the World Health Organization are set to a CT of 45. These excessively high CTs guarantee the appearance of widespread (pandemic) infection when infection rates are in fact low

they dont guarantee an appearance

[BADecker]

Why PCR Tests Are the Wrong Tool to Assess Pandemic Threat

We now know that PCR tests:
Unbranded Women’... Buy New $20.99 (as of 08:23 EST - Details)

1.Cannot distinguish between “live” viruses and inactive (noninfectious) viral particles and therefore cannot be used as a diagnostic tool — For this reason, it is grossly misleading to refer to a positive test as a “COVID-19 case.”

a virus is not 'alive' it is just genetic code wrapped up in a ball.

2.Cannot confirm that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms as the test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.

they actually have. they have isolated the virus so in samples the only thing left in the sample is the virus. then they put these samples into other animal specimens and seen their reaction.
when the reactions in the animal species match the reaction in humans they can determine the causal relationship.
the koch rivers and bell test was done many many months ago. about the same time as your stupid conspiracy sites were saying it had not been done.
your script from kaufman in march-april was based on his (lack) of research in january february. where he said america did not do their own tests to validate the asian tests. but in january there were no cases in america.. however by february there were and america did do the tests using their own methods. which did validate the asian tests. so kaufman in march using bad outdated research from january was instantly debunked.
yet idiots like you and badecker are quoting the debunked stuff in december.. because you idiots dont do your own research before repeating crappy scripts from your crappy sites - The point isn't isolating the virus. The point is, Where is the record of the isolation process being carried out, in scientific notation format, directly from a notebook that the isolating scientist used, so that anybody can see that it was really done. And more importantly, where us the video record? I mean, nowadays everybody makes videos of something as important as this. So, where can we go to find the real isolation being done?

Don't tell me that you have the source notebook or information, and that you are hiding it, so that 15 years down the road you can say, "See? Here it is. Just like I said. And I had it all along. Hidden away so I could prove to you that I knew what I was talking about... and fix you good."

Lack of research by Kaufman? Don't you even realize how many scientists there are in the world? Don't you realize that finding the hidden isolation info is something that you, yourself, haven't been able to do because it is so "un-findable?" But in something this important, there should be thousands of notebook and video records, around the world, showing the isolation having been done, so that everybody can see it for a fact. But you can't even show part of the wording of even one such notebook report.

Don't you even realize that Kaufman based what he said on the Chinese reports of the isolation being done, and that the Chinese were not conclusive in the whole thing, by their own admittance, and by real flaws in their reports?

Come on, franky1. If you have, or know the location of, the authentic isolation reports, why do you keep on beating around the bush? Tell us where they are so we can view them to see if they are actually there, and if they were done correctly. Is it your pride that is keeping you from divulging the location of this secret information? Or is it really that there isn't any virus isolation, and you are simply and hopefully placing your trust in some Chinese scientists... if they even are scientists, or if they even exist?

And if you say, "I showed you already," we might have missed it somehow. Show us again... the exact website, and the exact location in the report - quoting some of the wording - that shows the scientific notebook in-process notes, so that we can see that it was actually being done correctly. That's all Dr. Kaufman wants.

3.Have not been established for monitoring the treatment of 2019-nCoV infection.

doctors treat the symptoms. a PCR test takes 24 hours so repeatedly testing someone every 6 hours. and waiting 24 hours to get the results of the test 4 tests ago is not a good way to treat someone. doctors instead treat the symptom the patient is suffering at that minute. not the result of something 24 hours ago - So, tell us how long it takes for 1 PCR test cycle? Doctors do roughly 30 to 40 cycles. They must do this many. If they don't, they might not even be able to see the material of a handful of viruses. So, how long for each cycle? Because by the time they get their cycling done, the patient might be well, he might be dead, or he might not even be a patient because he has had no symptoms at all.

You can't seem to get it through your head that, the PCR test simply multiplies whatever is fed to it. Swab the last Covid virus out of a guy so that he is entirely Covid free, place the virus into the PCR test, and a little while later you have so many Covid viruses that a thousand people couldn't count them all. But the guy is happily singing away, entirely Covid free.

The PCR test is entirely useless for diagnosing.

4.Have exceptionally high false result rates — The higher the cycle threshold (CT) — i.e., the number of amplification cycles used to detect RNA particles — the greater the chance of a false positive.

the PCR process works
the inconsistances are based not on the PCR but on:
if the swab is not inserted and rubbed against the insides of the nose/throat well enough
if the person being tested is tested too early or too late into their infection

these are human factors and nothing to do with the PCR equipment
EG someone being swabbed on day 1 of infection may have a CT of 38 because its not yet incubated.
whereas if they were swabbed again on day 6 they would have a CT of 26 due to it having time to incubate in their body
so being told a 'negative' at day one but then presenting with symptoms at day 7 does not mean the PCR equipment is faulty. it means the human decided time to get tested was wrong

this is why most countries. when they track and trace people that come into contact with sick people. they do not test them on day 1. they suggest arranging a test at day 5 or having a test if they have symptoms to make sure what they have matches the known isolate.

its also why PCR tests are done by appointment where people go to a location where they will be swabbed by someone that has been trained to insert the swab and rub the nasel/throat passage properly
..
the only times there have been errors with the PCR equipment is when foolish humans mix up the chemicals and create bad batches of reagents. but this is where in march better processes were put in place to use and test the batches of reagents and use disposible pippettes to avoid cross contamination..
.. again this is something sorted out in march. where again your old outdated scripts are now debunked

a good example of getting a good swab is using the same forensic protocol as CSI. a bad example is the guy that was touching a swab and then put it in cola and then not using any reagants and not waiting for the time to pass. (yes the guy that said cola has covid dun goofed and failed his own experiment) - Of course the PCR test works. But what does the working of it prove? That is, how does anybody know that a subject is being swabbed on day 1 or on day 100? How does anybody know that, when he is swabbed again days later, that he still has Covid, especially if he is symptom free?

The PCR is totally useless, because the subject may or may not have had symptoms. But suppose he had mild symptoms and is completely over them. But the swab gets a few remaining viruses, and they are PCRed into billions to show that he is a case. Who cares? His immune system destroyed the illness in him. And even if he could somehow infect somebody else, nobody could prove that it was him, or how long the virus was in that other person. And they certainly couldn't prove it with the PCR test.

All you are showing by this chunk of blab, is that the PCR is useless or worse for testing anybody. The virus has been transmitted around the world long ago. Everybody knows that the virus is here, there, and everywhere. Nobody needs a PCR test to take the one or two viruses he has and multiply them into billions just to see that the virus is there.

You could wave a swab around in the air, at times, and test whatever Covid it picked up. This test might show billion of viruses after 33 cycles, even though nobody was swabbed. The viruses are all over the place. PCR testing is some of the biggest BS. And the things you say prove it.

5.Not peer reviewed.

While any CT over 35 is deemed scientifically unjustifiable,2,3,4 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend running PCR tests at a CT of 40.5

it has been peer review. PCR tests are not new. the tech has been around for along time. its used in forensic science to find dna of criminals via swaps taken at a crime scene
the process of isolating dna and RNA has been proven
and as said the bell rivers koch has proven what they have isolated causes the covid symptoms
its been peer reviewed in hundreds of countries by thousands of doctors.
.. again when america done the bell, koch rivers in february to validate the asian tests in december/january this is what peer reviewing is. following the example and if the same result happens. then the process is right
some countries also used different processes which backed up the end result.

as for the CT. they dont run the tests 100 - 1000 times like you conspiracy nuts say
and that 35 is not an exact figure/threshold. so they run it a couple more times just to be sure - So what? You can go to the beach and grab some sand and make some rudimentary glass with it. Like the PCR test works, this works also. It's been prove all over the place. And if you get better quality sand (or a better quality PCR test), you can make windows and mirrors. But, so what?

You don't use glass making techniques to make paper pulp out of wood. Even if there are some paper-making techniques that use sand in making paper a little, you don't make paper out of sand. You need trees to make pulp for making paper.

Similarly, the PCR is totally the wrong test to use for diagnosing people. You don't swab a healthy, happy person, find a couple of viruses, multiply them into billions of viruses in the PCR, and then go out and tell him he is sick, do you? He laughs at you. And there are a lot of happy healthy people who are getting fed up with the medical and government saying that they are sick when they are not.

Drosten tests and tests recommended by the World Health Organization are set to a CT of 45. These excessively high CTs guarantee the appearance of widespread (pandemic) infection when infection rates are in fact low

they dont guarantee an appearance

However, keep it up. We need all the ammunition that you can give us to help fight the Covid scam/lie. So thanks for the help.

[TwitchySeal]

covid is a real thing, and must be taken seriously

COVID is far from new and no one is saying it's fake, it's just being sold to the public in a super scammy way and people like you eat that shit up!

Molecular clock dating analyses of coronaviruses suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago.

 

I think it's safe to assume he was referring to the disease covid-19, which is caused by a recently (about a year ago) discovered corona virus.

The world is constantly changing and evolving... Corona Virus appears to have been around for 10,000 years.

Corona Viruses have been around forever.  They are a pretty big family of viruses.  The Novel (new) Corona Virus behind this pandemic is called SARS-CoV-2.  AIDS is caused by two Letntiviruses, the HIVS.

Think of it this way:

Animals : Birds : Red Tailed Falcon

is same as

Viruses : Coronaviruses : SARS-Cov-2

is same as

Viruses : Letntiviruses : HIV (where HIV refers to two viruses)


Covid-19 is the disease that is caused by SARS-Cov-2.
AIDS is the disease caused by HIV.

[franky1]

- The point isn't isolating the virus. The point is, Where is the record of the isolation process being carried out, in scientific notation format, directly from a notebook that the isolating scientist used, so that anybody can see that it was really done. And more importantly, where us the video record? I mean, nowadays everybody makes videos of something as important as this. So, where can we go to find the real isolation being done?

Don't tell me that you have the source notebook or information,

Lack of research by Kaufman? Don't you even realize how many scientists there are in the world? Don't you realize that finding the hidden isolation info is something that you, yourself, haven't been able to do

its 2020 not 1920.
scientists make their notes and show their processes in computers. not paper.
those reports are actually available i even linked you a few.

you like to stick to historic events.. well then check your post history and stop being lazy
you keep playing this ignorant game. so just look at your post history for reminders

..
as for you stupid assumptions about the cycles
the more you cycle it does not make you be seen as having more virus.. its actually the opposite. the more you need to cycle it the less virus you have
meaning no point cycling it 50-100-100-1000 times
cycling it more then 40 has no purpose

someone with a CT of say 15 is highly infectious at the peak of their sickness. someone asymptomatic or pre or post symptomatic wont have a ct of 15.. but instead something in the 30's
someone with say 25 will be symptomatic aswell. but unable to know if its pre-post peak.
someone with say 35+ will probably be asymptomatic. but unknown if its pre-post symptomatic. or if its someone that is asymptomatic throughout.
someone with 40+ would be defined as negative.

this number combined with other diagnostic info will then come together.
EG if someone had ct35 but tested only 1 day of a confirmed close contact.
     - it wont be post symptomatic or post infection
     - it would be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic. requiring monitoring for 14 days to see if symptoms develop.
     - they would need to isolate to prevent the risk of them passing it on

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had symptoms 10 days earlier
    - they would be post symptomatic/post infection
    - they would require to finish off the last 4 days of isolation

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had no symptoms
    - they would be asymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 3 days after close contact
   - they would be presymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 25 days after close contact.
   - they would be over the worse of their symptoms and in recovery stage

..
a PCR test also looks for human dna as a separate measure to then separate the sample material. and also as a way of knowing if the swab test was effectively done in the nose/throat

if a pcr test shows no human dna and no virus. then obviously the swab was not done properly
and a request to have the person re-swabbed would be done

[BADecker]

- The point isn't isolating the virus. The point is, Where is the record of the isolation process being carried out, in scientific notation format, directly from a notebook that the isolating scientist used, so that anybody can see that it was really done. And more importantly, where us the video record? I mean, nowadays everybody makes videos of something as important as this. So, where can we go to find the real isolation being done?

Don't tell me that you have the source notebook or information,

Lack of research by Kaufman? Don't you even realize how many scientists there are in the world? Don't you realize that finding the hidden isolation info is something that you, yourself, haven't been able to do

its 2020 not 1920.
scientists make their notes and show their processes in computers. not paper.
those reports are actually available i even linked you a few.

you like to stick to historic events.. well then check your post history and stop being lazy
you keep playing this ignorant game. so just look at your post history for reminders

Its 2020 not 1970. People know what a computer mouse is... or don't you?

Since the stuff is linked, show just one link, the location inside the link, and some of the wording that shows the notebook-like process being recorded. Or, you could give us the download link of the operation of isolating being done as recorded by the video camera.

So, stop playing the hiding game, lol. Or could it be that such doesn't exist?

..
as for you stupid assumptions about the cycles
the more you cycle it does not make you be seen as having more virus.. its actually the opposite. the more you need to cycle it the less virus you have
meaning no point cycling it 50-100-100-1000 times
cycling it more then 40 has no purpose

someone with a CT of say 15 is highly infectious at the peak of their sickness. someone asymptomatic or pre or post symptomatic wont have a ct of 15.. but instead something in the 30's
someone with say 25 will be symptomatic aswell. but unable to know if its pre-post peak.
someone with say 35+ will probably be asymptomatic. but unknown if its pre-post symptomatic. or if its someone that is asymptomatic throughout.
someone with 40+ would be defined as negative.

this number combined with other diagnostic info will then come together.
EG if someone had ct35 but tested only 1 day of a confirmed close contact.
     - it wont be post symptomatic or post infection
     - it would be pre-symptomatic/asymptomatic. requiring monitoring for 14 days to see if symptoms develop.
     - they would need to isolate to prevent the risk of them passing it on

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had symptoms 10 days earlier
    - they would be post symptomatic/post infection
    - they would require to finish off the last 4 days of isolation

EG if someone had ct35 but tested 25 days after close contact. where they had no symptoms
    - they would be asymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 3 days after close contact
   - they would be presymptomatic

EG someone had ct25 but tested 25 days after close contact.
   - they would be over the worse of their symptoms and in recovery stage

..
a PCR test also looks for human dna as a separate measure to then separate the sample material. and also as a way of knowing if the swab test was effectively done in the nose/throat

if a pcr test shows no human dna and no virus. then obviously the swab was not done properly
and a request to have the person re-swabbed would be done

Anybody can go to any number of sites and get an explanation of how the PCR works. But few technical people seem to be able to describe it in its simplest form, even though you have said it many times.

Essentially the PCR test is an off-on-switch-position observation test. It shows you if Covid is there (on), or if it isn't (off). I'm sure they can measure amounts of Covid that someone has, but the funny thing about it is, it can't measure if they are sick or not.

Further, there are so many other considerations... like if the sick person got well after close association to someone who tested PCR positive, but wasn't sick.


You can find records all over the place where people got well from a bad illness. The doctor thought they were going to die. Then they got well. And the doctor doesn't have a clue as to why or how they could get well.

The PCR test is a flimsy attempt at determining something, without really even knowing what is trying to be determined.

[franky1]

pcr testing is not an off or on.. pcr testing is a scale. where if the scale goes over a threshold then its deemed as not positive

so more cycles passed the threshold become pointless

yes the 35-40 is a grey area of do they have enough virus to be negative or positive of infection.
but when people have 15-35 its clear they have it.

this threshold is worked out by looking at the number of people that never develop symptoms.
yep they actually tested random people that came into contact with sick people and followed up with them for weeks after asking if they had symptoms or not.

they found a pattern those below 35 had symptoms to a varying degree where those with 25 had more noticable symptoms.. where as those 40+ never had symptoms

the asymptomatic group is in the 35-40 range (symptoms so subtle they dont even notice it)

there actually is a scale and its not an on-off..
after the pcr test.. a simplified kid proof explanation is then made with a simple yes or no
but this is a report summary and not the initial PCR result.

by the way you ignorant and lazy man. it only took a few minutes to look at post history to see the info you repeatedly asked for, you would find it. here is one example:

anyway.. just one example
human sample
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31978945/
more detail https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/

then the passing the sample to another lab to then do the koch test to confirm
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/02/28/2020.02.07.939389.full.pdf

if you just use your post history you will find other occassions where i provided you with info
if you just use google and google something like "covid19 mice" "covid mink" "covid ferret" you will find lots more

instead of wasting weeks asking for info.. actually try remembering the info already handed to you. and then look for info
learn to use google

as for wanting hand written notes.. sorry but your spiralling mentality would never dox yourself to then have any such notes posted to you. so stop asking for stupid things you will never want sent to you

if you have any questions about the studies. the studies include the names and contact details of those doing the tests. so contact them..
you have no excuses now to be ignorant. its now upto you to read and learn

[BADecker]

pcr testing is not an off or on.. pcr testing is a scale. where if the scale goes over a threshold then its deemed as not positive

so more cycles passed the threshold become pointless

yes the 35-40 is a grey area of do they have enough virus to be negative or positive of infection.
but when people have 15-35 its clear they have it.

this threshold is worked out by looking at the number of people that never develop symptoms.
yep they actually tested random people that came into contact with sick people and followed up with them for weeks after asking if they had symptoms or not.

they found a pattern those below 35 had symptoms to a varying degree where those with 25 had more noticable symptoms.. where as those 40+ never had symptoms

the asymptomatic group is in the 35-40 range (symptoms so subtle they dont even notice it)

there actually is a scale and its not an on-off..
after the pcr test.. a simplified kid proof explanation is then made with a simple yes or no
but this is a report summary and not the initial PCR result.

by the way you ignorant and lazy man. it only took a few minutes to look at post history to see the info you repeatedly asked for, you would find it. here is one example:

anyway.. just one example
human sample
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31978945/
more detail https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/

then the passing the sample to another lab to then do the koch test to confirm
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/02/28/2020.02.07.939389.full.pdf

if you just use your post history you will find other occassions where i provided you with info
if you just use google and google something like "covid19 mice" "covid mink" "covid ferret" you will find lots more

instead of wasting weeks asking for info.. actually try remembering the info already handed to you. and then look for info
learn to use google

as for wanting hand written notes.. sorry but your spiralling mentality would never dox yourself to then have any such notes posted to you. so stop asking for stupid things you will never want sent to you

if you have any questions about the studies. the studies include the names and contact details of those doing the tests. so contact them..
you have no excuses now to be ignorant. its now upto you to read and learn

Dr. Fauci says you are not supposed to use anecdotal test results. All you are saying is that somebody found some anecdotal results from some rough comparisons of an on-off test. The least they could do is get some accurate counts in, not some guesswork.

If you looked at your links that you provided above, there is so much data, and you haven't shown where the particular data in question is. You essentially haven't shown any data at all. What's the matter? Are you afraid you will be shown wrong when you try to provide the actual language from the isolation notebook location in one of those websites?

[franky1]

you asked for lots of data..
its now there for you to read it

again your playing the old game of asking for big data. getting big data. and now asking for small data

you played this game 3 times already.
your getting boring now

you asked for the data of all the procedures and processes and tests and results..
so go read it and stop crying

you got what you asked for
if your still unsure. then you will find email addresses in the reports of the doctors involved. im sure you can atleast recognised what an email address looks like.. ill give you a hint there is a @ in it

so if unsure what the report say.. go speak to the source.
after all you wanted to see the source data.

[BayAreaCoins]

The world is constantly changing and evolving... Corona Virus appears to have been around for 10,000 years.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-strain-found-in-denmark-netherlands-and-australia-says-who-12169262

You could probably find a new COVID every other week if you were looking for it, but it's not dangerous to healthy humans.  Resources are much better off flowing into other avenues that are actually killing healthy (and sick) people every day...

Top headline at the Liberal news site Drudgereport:



The red link goes to:  https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-confirms-two-cases-of-another-new-variant-linked-to-south-africa-12171410

[BADecker]

you asked for lots of data..
its now there for you to read it

again your playing the old game of asking for big data. getting big data. and now asking for small data

you played this game 3 times already.
your getting boring now

you asked for the data of all the procedures and processes and tests and results..
so go read it and stop crying

you got what you asked for
if your still unsure. then you will find email addresses in the reports of the doctors involved. im sure you can atleast recognised what an email address looks like.. ill give you a hint there is a @ in it

so if unsure what the report say.. go speak to the source.
after all you wanted to see the source data.

Thanks for all the data, franky1. Too bad you can't find even one virus isolation detailed report in all of it. I can't, either. So, thanks for proving that Covid is a fraud and a lie. Easier for me when you prove it for me.

[BayAreaCoins]

The world is constantly changing and evolving... Corona Virus appears to have been around for 10,000 years.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-strain-found-in-denmark-netherlands-and-australia-says-who-12169262

You could probably find a new COVID every other week if you were looking for it, but it's not dangerous to healthy humans.  Resources are much better off flowing into other avenues that are actually killing healthy (and sick) people every day...

Top headline at the Liberal news site Drudgereport:



The red link goes to:  https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-confirms-two-cases-of-another-new-variant-linked-to-south-africa-12171410

And another one today...  



Mutant strains everywhere:  https://apnews.com/article/international-news-public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-africa-south-africa-58c20bb87f1208c932654f03fbfb2b20

Drudge report has turned into such garbage... it's disgusting frankly.  O well...