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December 30, 2020, 09:27:42 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'



https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_87489d82-4a47-11eb-9583-f3e4fa6891c1.html

No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked.

There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine.

Says in plain English that he was under treatment generally and on remdesivir specifically.  Seems a lot more risky than 'covid-19' if one wants to play the numbers.

Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.




Are you saying that Remdesivir contributed to his death? They aren't using Remdesivir unless the guy is already on his death bed. Someone in his age demographic is supposed to experience light to moderate symptoms, if any. His condition deteriorated and they started using medications to treat him.

He was probably on his way to death if Remdesivir is being used for someone in their 40's.
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December 30, 2020, 11:02:50 PM
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Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.

you are reading debunked and outdated scripts from march-may
you are fuy out of date and debunked.

ill explain this once more although i feel i have explained this to you and the other conspiracy nuts several times in different topics

hospitals do not get $39k for just scribbling down covid.
they get paid per task. EG set amounts for using meds, or doing scans or putting on ventilators
those diagnostics are logged. the scans are linked and the procedures are signed off and done and witnessed.
the amounts accumilate depending on how severe the patient gets and how many procedures are needed to be done. .. its not a set fee


so if a patient has just a cough and fever they would not be put onto ards. and no ards procedures done so no ards payment.

yes in some hospitals in february some untrained doctors from the ER department were put onto ICU wards and done wrong things. but those doctors were reprimanded and made to leave the ICU within hours.

i debunked this back before summer when badecker quoted an american ER doctor temporarilly on a ICU ward putting patients onto ARDS protocol. and he was soon dismissed due to it

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screw it ill even give you the conspiracy quote and how its been further hihjacked deeper into fantasy land

"typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

translation.
the diagnostics section can add upt to $5k if everything is done. but can be cheaper if less is done
if it is then proceded to then do lung xrays and using a nasel canular. and having that oygen therapy for upto 2 weeks. then that can add upto $13k. but less time on oxygen means less cost
if they then need full ventilation. then again this can add more costs whereby each day on it accumilates more cost. where the max total of smeone having every procedure/test/diagnostic. and then needing all the treatments and ards protocol for a length of say 1 month.. could total $39k

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as a separate note. just to put some facts infront you of
if 2 patients where sick. and one had covid and someone had say MERS but both had the same symptom severity and end of life result. where all diagnostics and all scans and all treatments were the same and for the exact same time length.

then and only then if a hospital is classed as a rural hospital(not easy access to diagnostics tools) they would only get a 20% extra on their charges if the patient had covid

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in no cases in no hospitals do they automatically get $39k just for writing 'covid' on a report

doctors dont just write covid. their diagnosis have to be backed up by known symptoms/tests/scans/treatments. and its these tests/scans/treatments that have individual costings and also policies in place as to whats acceptable to perform or not

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December 30, 2020, 11:18:12 PM
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Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.

you are reading debunked and outdated scripts from march-may
you are fuy out of date and debunked.

ill explain this once more although i feel i have explained this to you and the other conspiracy nuts several times in different topics

hospitals do not get $39k for just scribbling down covid.
they get paid per task. EG set amounts for using meds, or doing scans or putting on ventilators
those diagnostics are logged. the scans are linked and the procedures are signed off and done and witnessed.
the amounts accumilate depending on how severe the patient gets and how many procedures are needed to be done. .. its not a set fee


so if a patient has just a cough and fever they would not be put onto ards. and no ards procedures done so no ards payment.

yes in some hospitals in february some untrained doctors from the ER department were put onto ICU wards and done wrong things. but those doctors were reprimanded and made to leave the ICU within hours.

i debunked this back before summer when badecker quoted an american ER doctor temporarilly on a ICU ward putting patients onto ARDS protocol. and he was soon dismissed due to it

Now, franky1.You know that you always debunk stuff that is completely different than what anyone else might think you are debunking. By doing such, you simply debunk yourself all the time.

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December 30, 2020, 11:23:06 PM
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


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December 30, 2020, 11:34:46 PM
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.



Hey, thanks, buddy. You are such a good friend... lol Grin     Cool

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December 31, 2020, 07:54:39 AM
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'.  'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020.  Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms.

If they can somehow suck you into the medical/industrial spider web to get 'treatment', they can start jacking you full of all kinds of off-label meds which cause a chain reaction which commonly results in death.  That death only helps bolster the fraudulent mortality numbers which in turn causes more mind-fucked paranoidiacs to rush to the hospital if they get a sniffle.  Classic chain reaction.


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December 31, 2020, 09:54:09 AM
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'.  'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020.  Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms.

If they can somehow suck you into the medical/industrial spider web to get 'treatment', they can start jacking you full of all kinds of off-label meds which cause a chain reaction which commonly results in death.  That death only helps bolster the fraudulent mortality numbers which in turn causes more mind-fucked paranoidiacs to rush to the hospital if they get a sniffle.  Classic chain reaction.


That's according to internet conspiracy theorists.

According to experts around the world, Covid-19 is the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which was first observed in late 2019 (hence the 19 in covid-19).

In 2020 there were more than 80 million cases of covid-19 and almost 2 million deaths.

I doubt anyone posting in this thread is an expert - all we can do is look at the qualifications of whomever is making the claim and go from there.


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December 31, 2020, 02:47:30 PM
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In 2020 there were more than 80 million cases of covid-19 and almost 2 million deaths.

I'm sure you vetted all 2 million and kicked out the obviously fraudulent ones like motorcycle accident induce trauma.  Nope?  Left that little task to the 'experts', eh?

Something I read about recently because it got the reader (of government stats) censored and banned indicates that a grand total of 370 or so people who were in Britain, under 60, and had no known pre-existing health conditions died from 'covid-19'.  I bet that if you exclude people who had 'treatment' involving various sorts of interventions and off-label drugs, the number would approach zero.

0->400 is a FAR cry from the Imperial Collage 'models' which predicted 2,000,000 dead if the politicians didn't Gitmo everyone.

I doubt anyone posting in this thread is an expert - all we can do is look at the qualifications of whomever is making the claim and go from there.

Supposedly about half of the doctors and nurses in continental Europe are saying "Not no but FUCK NO!" to genetic reprogramming (not) 'vaccines'.  Are those people 'expert' enough for you, or are they automatically non-expert because they don't agree with the corp/gov 'experts' in the bureaucratic maze and multinational corporate pharma companies?


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December 31, 2020, 03:26:29 PM
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In 2020 there were more than 80 million cases of covid-19 and almost 2 million deaths.

I'm sure you vetted all 2 million and kicked out the obviously fraudulent ones like motorcycle accident induce trauma.  Nope?  Left that little task to the 'experts', eh?

Something I read about recently because it got the reader (of government stats) censored and banned indicates that a grand total of 370 or so people who were in Britain, under 60, and had no known pre-existing health conditions died from 'covid-19'.  I bet that if you exclude people who had 'treatment' involving various sorts of interventions and off-label drugs, the number would approach zero.

0->400 is a FAR cry from the Imperial Collage 'models' which predicted 2,000,000 dead if the politicians didn't Gitmo everyone.

I doubt anyone posting in this thread is an expert - all we can do is look at the qualifications of whomever is making the claim and go from there.

Supposedly about half of the doctors and nurses in continental Europe are saying "Not no but FUCK NO!" to genetic reprogramming (not) 'vaccines'.  Are those people 'expert' enough for you, or are they automatically non-expert because they don't agree with the corp/gov 'experts' in the bureaucratic maze and multinational corporate pharma companies?



Are you saying that half the doctors and nurses in Europe are anti vaxxers?  lol

The preexisting condition/but they were old anyway argument is quite the stretch, but it's the closest thing to a good faith argument covid deniers make. It's not like it's a rare thing to have some sort of health condition and they're already on their death bead and all covid did was put them out of their misery.  Something like 25-30% of the US population has a preexisting condition.  So what's your point?  Even if zero people died that were 100% healthy...so what?  You can have a pre existing condition your entire life and die of old age.  

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December 31, 2020, 04:16:49 PM
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^^^ Up with herd immunity... from good nutrition, no masks (that hide togetherness and cause CO2 poisoning while increasing bacterial infection), togetherness by abandoning lockdowns, good cheer among friends, hugging and kissing... and mostly by stomping out the poisons of vaccines and their makers.

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December 31, 2020, 04:28:29 PM
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I doubt anyone posting in this thread is an expert - all we can do is look at the qualifications of whomever is making the claim and go from there.

Supposedly about half of the doctors and nurses in continental Europe are saying "Not no but FUCK NO!" to genetic reprogramming (not) 'vaccines'.  Are those people 'expert' enough for you, or are they automatically non-expert because they don't agree with the corp/gov 'experts' in the bureaucratic maze and multinational corporate pharma companies?


Are you saying that half the doctors and nurses in Europe are anti vaxxers?  lol

Don't know how they feel about vaccines.  It's irrelevant anyway since, given the this mRNA GMO technology doesn't stop one from becoming infected with SARS-cov-2 or passing it to others, it's not a 'vaccine' by any stretch.  At least it wasn't tested for doing so and it's not a requirement to be 'effective'.  To be defined as 'effective' they simply need to reduce the apparent severity of 'covid-19 disease'.  If you have a two day headache (assuming it is not within a few weeks of the injection) instead of a three day headache, the injection is define as 'effective'.

They do know that it is an experimental therapy and are saying no 'Fuck NO' to being test subjects is all I'm saying.  That's what I've heard anyway, and I have no reason to dis-believe it.

Again, are you going to classify these medical professionals as 'not experts' because of their position on getting things injected into their OWN bodies?

The preexisting condition/but they were old anyway argument is quite the stretch, but it's the closest thing to a good faith argument covid deniers make. It's not like it's a rare thing to have some sort of health condition and they're already on their death bead and all covid did was put them out of their misery.  Something like 25-30% of the US population has a preexisting condition.  So what's your point?  Even if zero people died that were 100% healthy...so what?  You can have a pre existing condition your entire life and die of old age.  

Old and sick people need support from others in the economy.  Shutting down the economy and putting workers out of work is not likely to be of long term benefit to them.  You probably are of the opinion that 'the government' will step in to take care of them so ultimately this will work out to be a 'good thing'.  If so, I suggest that you are not very good with history or with system analysis.  The corp/gov technocracy considers them an inefficient and relatively useless burden...once their savings are gone and assets stripped.  I hope you are not on-board with the most logical method of improving efficiency here, but I don't rule it out.


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Charges filled against the UK government for fraud, based on official documents packed with contradictions.

The first few minutes at the police station reception
https://youtu.be/AiYpAuXx77Q

The interview with the police officer
https://youtu.be/AiYpAuXx77Q?t=1578

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January 01, 2021, 02:27:50 PM
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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'.  'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020.  Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms.

first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers

also is s new that its not 'common' maybe in 2022 once its had a few seasons you can declare it common. but not yet.
also 'colds' are bacteria based. this is viral. so its flu based not cold based. but again for emphasis its not yet common to have already built up immunity

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Charges filled against the UK government for fraud, based on official documents packed with contradictions.

The first few minutes at the police station reception
https://youtu.be/AiYpAuXx77Q

those idiots sound like they spent too much time in the freeman cult

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January 01, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
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We lots of joke and falsification about the Covid19. The world health organization have proven that the virus is reals and deadly so why should someone say it’s scam. When they are many death recorded during the Covid19 outbreak. We should all be sensitive and keep to all the safety measures to on a safer side.

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badecker. tvbcof has already admitted people do get covid and have symptoms by trying to establish that the vaccine wont work because people will still get covid. with or without the vaccine.

so you lost a conspiracy ally. i am just ramming more nails in his foot so he cant run back to conspiracies.


'covid' == 'year 2020's common cold'.  'covid-19' is just the marketing term they put on it for the hoax pandemic operation psy-op of 2020.  Sure the common cold exists, and sure, the common cold causes symptoms.

first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers

also is s new that its not 'common' maybe in 2022 once its had a few seasons you can declare it common. but not yet.
also 'colds' are bacteria based. this is viral. so its flu based not cold based. but again for emphasis its not yet common to have already built up immunity

Colds are not bacteria based, they are viral based. A cold could also be a type of coronavirus depending on what type of cold virus you get. That being said, colds are not similar to SARS-COV-2 for oblivious reasons, mainly the the transmission rate and the death rate.
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first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers
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Pffffft!  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I missed that doozy (noticed it when your somewhat strained relationship friend pointed out your lack of understanding about virus vs. bacteria.)

But please go on and tell us all about these risk statistics.  I'm all ears!


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first of all sars-cov-2 is a new strain that is so varient from 2002 sars and 2012 mers that it causes more death and symptom severity than sars/mers
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Pffffft!  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I missed that doozy (noticed it when your somewhat strained relationship friend pointed out your lack of understanding about virus vs. bacteria.)

But please go on and tell us all about these risk statistics.  I'm all ears!



You got him.  sars does have a higher death rate with more severe symptoms.  How can you be informed enough to to know that while thick enough to think 'covid-19 == common cold'?


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Influenza and corona-viruses:
The flu infects the whole body, corona-virus the upper respiratory tract

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Influenza and corona-viruses:
The flu infects the whole body, corona-virus the upper respiratory tract

funny part is upper respiratory tract is the throat nose and mouth... thats all
covid actually attacks the lungs and organs and if swallowed the digestive system
lung damage is LOWER respiratory tract.

why oh why is it the same 5 people that never even bother to do basic research

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