Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[slapper]

Anyone of you who hopes that the final of the English team will happen in the Champions League this season?

No, I didn't expect it to be real. Real Madrid vs Manchester City is the ideal final in the Champions League.

In my opinion, the match between MU vs Liverpool is quite an interesting match because currently Liverpool really need a victory to secure their position in the standings and if you look at the current standings, of course this match will be a decisive match for Manchester City to seal the title if MU can beat Liverpool.

Manchester City just need 1 more win and maybe the match vs Chelsea will decide their title this season. 4 match remaining, if 1 win and 3 more lose have also guaranteed them championships as Manchester United will no longer be able to catch up.

English clubs prove that the Premier League is the dominant force in European football I also do not like the idea of a purely English final in the Champions League, although of course Chelsea and especially Manchester City made comfortable results in the first matches and if this happens, I will take it calmly. However, Real Madrid and PSG also retain their chances of reaching the final, for Real Madrid it is enough to score one goal, and PSG will have a harder time and need two goals scored. Chelsea are fighting for the top four in the league, so it is not a fact that City will be able to claim the title in this match.

They are not the dominant force in Europe. Only a few time they make it to final and win. In the last 10 years, they only won the title for 2 times while La Liga dominate the league.

Even MC won the first leg, I still doubt that they will easily win the second leg

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[cryptofrka]

I do not know about you guys but I personally think this was something good. It started out as a peaceful protest but of course a few people there started to become violent. That was wrong and the media is wrong to highlight that fact.

But the point here is being missed. The protest was organized,,, some hooligans chose to make it their scene after drinking.

This is not about owners not spending money, it was owners taking money out of the club for personal gain. Clubs that have over 100 years history in communities.

I am not condoning the violence but you all have to see past this. This was a statement to remind the owners that the fans still have a say in club matters.

I must confess I do not understand the protests. Glazers have been there for how long - 15 years? What are the fans complaining about now? The Superleague idea?

United has finally stabilized a bit results-wise, they secured CL for next year and are basically in the EL final. If they wanted Glazers out, they should have started the protests a long time ago.

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I do not know about you guys but I personally think this was something good. It started out as a peaceful protest but of course a few people there started to become violent. That was wrong and the media is wrong to highlight that fact.

But the point here is being missed. The protest was organized,,, some hooligans chose to make it their scene after drinking.

This is not about owners not spending money, it was owners taking money out of the club for personal gain. Clubs that have over 100 years history in communities.

I am not condoning the violence but you all have to see past this. This was a statement to remind the owners that the fans still have a say in club matters.

I must confess I do not understand the protests. Glazers have been there for how long - 15 years? What are the fans complaining about now? The Superleague idea?

United has finally stabilized a bit results-wise, they secured CL for next year and are basically in the EL final. If they wanted Glazers out, they should have started the protests a long time ago.

they have been protesting for a long time. I remember still in Ferguson's time, they protested (backing to green-yellow colours, which were their original colours)but not radically like now.
now it’s a little different because they don’t have good enough results (no trophies) so they have no justification for tolerance. a small part of fans^{the largest fan-owned football club in the United Kingdom by number of members} even separated and made another club, which will be only for football, FC United of Manchester https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._United_of_Manchester
if a bad period happened to them long enough (as Arsenal or Liverpool before Klopp) they would certainly be even more aggressive.

[slaman29]

Plus it's not whether they can keep Bale, but whether he wants to stay or not:)

I believe that Bale will want to stay or better said if Zidane remains at Real Madrid I really doubt that Gareth will want to return...
Now in which team will see him next season, it's a good riddle.

It's SO hard to tell with guys like Bale. Not a big fan of him, especially since he moved to Spain, not so much that he doesn't speak Spanish or anything to do with his golfing etc. but even as a sportsperson I always felt he doesn't give it 100% you don't get the feeling of determination from him. And if his decision is only because of the manager, then he shouldn't stay at Spurs either cause who knows who their new manager will be?

[ILuckyGuyI]

Chelsea are really close to Leicester now. They are only two points behind Leicester.  But Chelsea's next game is going to be against Manchester City away. And it means that their job is really hard. Meanwhile, Leicester are going to play a home game against Newcastle. So, it looks like the gap will be bigger again.

[oHnK]

I do not know about you guys but I personally think this was something good. It started out as a peaceful protest but of course a few people there started to become violent. That was wrong and the media is wrong to highlight that fact.

But the point here is being missed. The protest was organized,,, some hooligans chose to make it their scene after drinking.

This is not about owners not spending money, it was owners taking money out of the club for personal gain. Clubs that have over 100 years history in communities.

I am not condoning the violence but you all have to see past this. This was a statement to remind the owners that the fans still have a say in club matters.

I must confess I do not understand the protests. Glazers have been there for how long - 15 years? What are the fans complaining about now? The Superleague idea?

United has finally stabilized a bit results-wise, they secured CL for next year and are basically in the EL final. If they wanted Glazers out, they should have started the protests a long time ago.

they have been protesting for a long time. I remember still in Ferguson's time, they protested (backing to green-yellow colours, which were their original colours)but not radically like now.
now it’s a little different because they don’t have good enough results (no trophies) so they have no justification for tolerance. a small part of fans^{the largest fan-owned football club in the United Kingdom by number of members} even separated and made another club, which will be only for football, FC United of Manchester https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._United_of_Manchester
if a bad period happened to them long enough (as Arsenal or Liverpool before Klopp) they would certainly be even more aggressive.

Boris Johnson even highlighted a demonstration by fans of the Manchester United football club at Old Trafford Stadium.  He was disappointed that the demonstration ended in chaos so that a police officer was injured.  Whatever the reasons behind this demonstration are so inappropriate that there are victims of violence.  Very uneducated at all this behavior that hurts other people.  If it was for that super league reason, not even everyone in England supported it happening and that would be enough demonstrations like this.  And just as we know that demonstrations like this have happened several times not only MU fans, there are many other clubs whose fans are angry too.

[BIT-BENDER]

Chelsea are really close to Leicester now. They are only two points behind Leicester.  But Chelsea's next game is going to be against Manchester City away. And it means that their job is really hard. Meanwhile, Leicester is going to play a home game against Newcastle. So, it looks like the gap will be bigger again.

Chelsea defeated Manchester city in the FA cup semifinals although it will be as a broken record to say the FA cup is different from the league games, although I think Manchester city would only play for glory or for some records other than that, Chelsea has more reason to win the match than Manchester city.

Also to Leicester city playing Newcastle who can be venomous on their good day, Leicester city has their hands filled, but I think they can win Newcastle, and also Chelsea may just defeat Manchester city.

[icopress]

That means only an individual with a high networth will be able to buy it from the Glazers if only they decided to sell it. I think this protest was orchestrated on this specific days for several reasons. The main reason probably would be like because this is a big match between Manchester United and Liverpool and alot of media will be covering this so this protest will get a huge coverage as well

Until this moment, I did not go into the details of these events, but I read the interview of one of the fans and this is what I learned ... (although it is rather odd that one of the fans gave an interview to the press given that football fans dislike journalists as much as the police).

[1] The event was carefully planned as, in addition to the action at the stadium, the fans tried to detain Ole-Gunnar Solskjaer so that the game would definitely not take place.

[2] The protest would hardly have taken place if Manchester United were in dire need of glasses, and given that M'City is leading by a wide margin, the penalty in the form of deducting points will have absolutely no effect on the outcome of the season.

[3] Most likely, the Glazers are ready to sell the club for 4 billion, but one thing is clear: they are not ready for a partial sale, given the debts.

[4] Fun Fact: Fans who didn't want to put up with the fact that Malcolm Glazer bought their favorite club in 2005 founded FC United of Manchester.

[Yogee]

Let's move on from that incident at Manchester.

It's nice to look back at the poll as the season winds down. LFC is on top while Man City is a close second. It's clear who is going to be crowned but how did your team do? My pick was way off and they're competing for the CL qualifying spot hehe.

[lixer]

Four games left. Things are still not looking good for Liverpool at all. I mean there is a serious serious possibility that they will not be going to europe this year. I get that City could have been champions while Liverpool becoming second again, that would have made sense, if something marvelous happened and they were third that would have been decent as well, but 7th? Really? Now they are 7th and if they win that extra game they will be 6th at best and that’s it, and that extra game is against United so there is a big chance they could lose that game as well.

I don't know what is wrong with them but I don't know what happens in a season where they pay so much money, not earn too much money and not even be in any european league at all, that sounds like maybe it is time for them to dissolve and sell their players because they may not be able to afford to go on.

[leea-1334]

I must confess I do not understand the protests. Glazers have been there for how long - 15 years? What are the fans complaining about now? The Superleague idea?

United has finally stabilized a bit results-wise, they secured CL for next year and are basically in the EL final. If they wanted Glazers out, they should have started the protests a long time ago.

I am not a United fan but I have followed some of the news since those times American owners took over. Some of the main reasons:
1. Glazers took over and borrowed money using the club as collateral -- put them in big debt almost $1B.
2. Profits made from seasons go into paying interest, not reinvestment.

And the protests DID start a long time ago, do you remember even a section of fans broke away and formed FC United of Manchester? Nickname the Red Rebels. As icopress mentioned in his link.

Protests were worse before, police had to escort Glazer:)

[cryptofrka]

I am not a United fan but I have followed some of the news since those times American owners took over. Some of the main reasons:
1. Glazers took over and borrowed money using the club as collateral -- put them in big debt almost $1B.
2. Profits made from seasons go into paying interest, not reinvestment.

And the protests DID start a long time ago, do you remember even a section of fans broke away and formed FC United of Manchester? Nickname the Red Rebels. As icopress mentioned in his link.

Protests were worse before, police had to escort Glazer:)

I remember these protests, yeah - that's exactly what I was referring to. They protested a bit, then they stopped.

I'm curious if this is now related to the Superleague idea or something else entirely, I cannot find a connection. And I feel these protests are the biggest ones so far, they postponed the game and clashed with the police in front of Old Trafford.

I mean, I understand the protests. Timing is simply weird for me considering they will be playing in an EL final soon.

[buwaytress]

I must confess I do not understand the protests.

And the protests DID start a long time ago, do you remember even a section of fans broke away and formed FC United of Manchester? Nickname the Red Rebels. As icopress mentioned in his link.

I can understand why a lot of people feel these protests went overboard but as a Liverpool supporter I also remember the fan protests during the Gillett and Hicks era, which led to the Spirit of Shankly co-op... which until today still discusses important issues with the club (and has been directly credited by the club's current owners as being responsible for them helping take over). Peaceful and solid coop, whose long-term vision is for supporter ownership of the club -- IIRC a similar to Barca structure was proposed.



All this wouldn't have happened without fan protests (Liverpool protests had thousands at their rallies, but it was largely peaceful and just noisy, but it eventually forced the owners out), and people have short memories. ESL just opened up old wounds. Supporters are power. Let us remind the boardroom members often, and loudly.

P.S. If anyone noticed most of the flares during the OT protest had green/yellow smoke, which is the link for the colours of the older protest groups from 10 years ago. This is definitely not new.

[LittleBitFunny]

Four games left. Things are still not looking good for Liverpool at all. I mean there is a serious serious possibility that they will not be going to europe this year. I get that City could have been champions while Liverpool becoming second again, that would have made sense, if something marvelous happened and they were third that would have been decent as well, but 7th? Really? Now they are 7th and if they win that extra game they will be 6th at best and that’s it, and that extra game is against United so there is a big chance they could lose that game as well.

I don't know what is wrong with them but I don't know what happens in a season where they pay so much money, not earn too much money and not even be in any european league at all, that sounds like maybe it is time for them to dissolve and sell their players because they may not be able to afford to go on.

I have rarely seen such a bad performance of the current champion. Last season, Liverpool were 18 points ahead of second-placed Manchester City. But this season Liverpool are at No. 7 in the table and they are 26 points behind Manchester City at the top of the table. Liverpool have played very badly. Hopefully next season they will correct their mistakes and play better.

[AakZaki]

I have rarely seen such a bad performance of the current champion. Last season, Liverpool were 18 points ahead of second-placed Manchester City. But this season Liverpool are at No. 7 in the table and they are 26 points behind Manchester City at the top of the table. Liverpool have played very badly. Hopefully next season they will correct their mistakes and play better.

Looks like this season is beyond their plans. Many players have had long injuries. Purchasing players in the transfer market is also not the right solution because the quality is below the main players. Just look after Van Djik's injury they are very weak, their defense is fragile. Kloop's plan with high defense didn't work out, as a result of which they often conceded on direct passes.

[mrongoz22]

This year's champions of the English league have officially become the property of Mencester City, and there are only 4 matches left, to mutually win the 4th place to be able to play on the European scene,
chealsea, west ham, totenham, and liverpool, should be able to get full points in the remaining 4 matches ...
I hope that Liverpool will continue to fight for a slot in the Uefa league ,,
Liverpool keep on fighting, I'm sure you can, true fans ..
Life ..

[justdimin]

I can understand why a lot of people feel these protests went overboard but as a Liverpool supporter I also remember the fan protests during the Gillett and Hicks era, which led to the Spirit of Shankly co-op... which until today still discusses important issues with the club (and has been directly credited by the club's current owners as being responsible for them helping take over). Peaceful and solid coop, whose long-term vision is for supporter ownership of the club -- IIRC a similar to Barca structure was proposed.



All this wouldn't have happened without fan protests (Liverpool protests had thousands at their rallies, but it was largely peaceful and just noisy, but it eventually forced the owners out), and people have short memories. ESL just opened up old wounds. Supporters are power. Let us remind the boardroom members often, and loudly.

ESL was really a bad idea all around, it didn't benefit anyone anywhere. Maybe UEFA benefited from it because they solidified their power and showed the world how much power they have, even worlds top 10+ teams getting together couldn't break UEFA down and create their own thing, so it had to disband from the fear of Uefa, as far as I know all the finalists of champions league were part of it as well yet they are still fighting there with a fear.

So long story short we are talking about ESL not being beneficial to clubs, to players, to profits, to fans and nobody overall. This is one of those times when the fans has to increase their volume and show a problem with it, you can't just have few people at the top making decisions, it has to be a democracy and fans needs to have a vote in this regard, if you ignore fans they will find a replacement for you this way.

[judas]

This year's champions of the English league have officially become the property of Mencester City, and there are only 4 matches left, to mutually win the 4th place to be able to play on the European scene,
chealsea, west ham, totenham, and liverpool, should be able to get full points in the remaining 4 matches ...
I hope that Liverpool will continue to fight for a slot in the Uefa league ,,
Liverpool keep on fighting, I'm sure you can, true fans ..
Life ..

Manchester City really dominate everywhere.    They also have advanced to the final in the Champions League.

I hope that Liverpool manage to qualify for a tournament this season. Their performance has decreased really highly and the remaining games will be really tough for them.

[leea-1334]

Thank you for adding those explanations buwaytress and cryptofrka,,, like I said also I guess at the end of the day I am happy if my club's fans have voices and they fight for what is right. I find it slightly strange my club did not make as much noise as Liverpool or United even though we were also part of ESL;)

I also thought we hated our Chairman too but maybe he is not American is the reason.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Chelsea are really close to Leicester now. They are only two points behind Leicester.  But Chelsea's next game is going to be against Manchester City away. And it means that their job is really hard. Meanwhile, Leicester is going to play a home game against Newcastle. So, it looks like the gap will be bigger again.

Chelsea defeated Manchester city in the FA cup semifinals although it will be as a broken record to say the FA cup is different from the league games, although I think Manchester city would only play for glory or for some records other than that, Chelsea has more reason to win the match than Manchester city.

Also to Leicester city playing Newcastle who can be venomous on their good day, Leicester city has their hands filled, but I think they can win Newcastle, and also Chelsea may just defeat Manchester city.

Leicester are going to play their game first. If they win it, then Chelsea will be under pressure in their game. It's very important for Chelsea also to maintain their place and gap with West Ham. I feel like it will end in a draw.