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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 38 (50.7%)
Liverpool - 11 (14.7%)
Arsenal - 21 (28%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.3%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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September 14, 2022, 05:09:16 PM
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Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.

You're right about that, it's not enough that they started the league well. Premeir League is one of the most difficult leagues and there must be enough players in the team, Arsenal can have a hard time if any injury occurs. I think they have a large enough roster right now, but it is very difficult to replace some players.
Unfortunately, there is not much that can be done about this anymore Smiley
Undergoing a busy season because playing in several competitions, of course, it takes a balanced squad depth, both the core and reserve squads, for the core players we can say that Arsenal have a capable squad but this is not accompanied by a good reserve squad, so when Arteta rotates players, it is very obvious that arsenal's game is far from good and it is difficult to face weak teams like Zurich some time ago, besides that Arteta has difficulty making substitutions when a player is injured and actually makes them weak because they don't have a suitable substitute, The real case was seen when Elneny and Partey were injured and missed against Manchester so Arteta had to field Lokonga who I think is not strong in defense.

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September 14, 2022, 05:18:27 PM
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Undergoing a busy season because playing in several competitions, of course, it takes a balanced squad depth, both the core and reserve squads, for the core players we can say that Arsenal have a capable squad but this is not accompanied by a good reserve squad, so when Arteta rotates players, it is very obvious that arsenal's game is far from good and it is difficult to face weak teams like Zurich some time ago, besides that Arteta has difficulty making substitutions when a player is injured and actually makes them weak because they don't have a suitable substitute, The real case was seen when Elneny and Partey were injured and missed against Manchester so Arteta had to field Lokonga who I think is not strong in defense.
That means you can't expect much from Arsenal this season. The team that has a great chance of winning the title is the team that has an equally good substitute squad and main players. I don't think Arsenal is one of them, but some of the other top teams also seem to be the same as Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham. Their starting line-up is good, but when some players are out due to injury or something, the performance is very disappointing. I also forgot to mention that Manchester City also have the same problem, but I think they only have problems in defence.

 
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September 14, 2022, 05:30:56 PM
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It looks like Nunez has taken on the brunt of a position he has absolutely no control over at Liverpool. Replacing Mane up front is not easy. If we look at the current Mane is much more aggressive than at Liverpool and Nunez position will not be comparable to being able to match the Premier League with Haaland. I certainly agree that Haaland has shown a thirst for goals and has always had an aggressive level on the pitch more than anyone else. Whether it's true or not, for the time being, Nunez has lost quite a bit of prestige from Haaland.
I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.

Klopp has started not using Nunez as a starter, he prefers to include him in the second half when the match is about to end.

nunez needs a lot of playing time to be able to hone his skills and also his sharpness as a striker so that Liverpool don't spend money in vain.

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September 14, 2022, 05:41:58 PM
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I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.
I think he should really pay attention to the tactical scheme used by kloop in order to support his performance. If you look at Sadio Mane when he was still with Liverpool he was the type of hardworking player who was able to control the midfield and front to pick up the ball with a strong physique that was a victory in keeping Liverpool's front line very aggressive last season. Well, since Mane departure, Liverpool seems to have not found their best performance in the last few matches. well if you say Nunez needs time to adapt I think it's a bit too late.

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September 14, 2022, 05:43:51 PM
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Undergoing a busy season because playing in several competitions, of course, it takes a balanced squad depth, both the core and reserve squads, for the core players we can say that Arsenal have a capable squad but this is not accompanied by a good reserve squad, so when Arteta rotates players, it is very obvious that arsenal's game is far from good and it is difficult to face weak teams like Zurich some time ago, besides that Arteta has difficulty making substitutions when a player is injured and actually makes them weak because they don't have a suitable substitute, The real case was seen when Elneny and Partey were injured and missed against Manchester so Arteta had to field Lokonga who I think is not strong in defense.
That means you can't expect much from Arsenal this season. The team that has a great chance of winning the title is the team that has an equally good substitute squad and main players. I don't think Arsenal is one of them, but some of the other top teams also seem to be the same as Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham. Their starting line-up is good, but when some players are out due to injury or something, the performance is very disappointing. I also forgot to mention that Manchester City also have the same problem, but I think they only have problems in defence.

I would say Manchester City will be the favorite to win the title this season. Arsenal however is top of the points table. But it remains to be seen how long they can hold on to the top spot. Manchester City's gameplay and the squad are both stronger than Arsenal's.
But if we compare the Arsenal team with Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United, then Arsenal is more stable than these teams. However, we will have to wait a few more weeks to know which teams will participate in the title fight. Liverpool and Manchester United are trying to solve their internal problems. And their performance is now somewhat stable compared to earlier.

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September 14, 2022, 05:52:41 PM
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Arsenal's main problem has always been with consistency. So far in this season they have done a good job. Of course the loss against Manchester United wasn't good but they are still the leader in the standings. The most important parts of the season will be the dates that they play against the other big teams of the league. If they continue to get losses or draws in those matches then it is difficult for them to remain a serious title contender for this season.

Arteta has a much more solid squad after new transfers. This season is a big opportunity to do more than just finishing it in top 4. They should be able to fight for the league title until the end. Their job is very difficult especially against Manchester City as they are even stronger after adding Haaland to the team. I assume that we would have a better idea of what teams would be in this rivalry after the end of the first half of the season.

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September 14, 2022, 05:58:25 PM
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Manchester City have found and settle best striker in this season after Erling Haaland make Pep Guardiola sastified with his performance and success lead top scorer standing position awhile with 10 goals contribution in last six games. Not only success lead goals in domestic league but also Erling Haaland keep consistent scoring last two goals on UEFA Champion League against with Sevilla on first match.
Everyone knows that now Haaland is the sharpest striker in the Premier League at the moment. Today he will host his former team Dortmund for the second game of the Champions League and actually I would like to see him score for this match too. He must consistently score goals if top scorer is his dream this season. Against his former team, I have a little doubt he will score, it's like Lewandowski didn't in the Munich vs Barcelona match yesterday.

I think Manchester City will have no trouble winning today's game against Dortmund, it should be a good match to test the mentality of the players against good teams from other leagues. I'm curious about Haaland today, can he live up to his expectations?
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September 14, 2022, 06:19:11 PM
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Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland.
It looks like Nunez has taken on the brunt of a position he has absolutely no control over at Liverpool. Replacing Mane up front is not easy. If we look at the current Mane is much more aggressive than at Liverpool and Nunez position will not be comparable to being able to match the Premier League with Haaland. I certainly agree that Haaland has shown a thirst for goals and has always had an aggressive level on the pitch more than anyone else. Whether it's true or not, for the time being, Nunez has lost quite a bit of prestige from Haaland.
I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.

I watched Nunez playing for Liverpool yesterday after he was introduced in to their match against Ajax, he fell short of my expectations despite the hype about his abilities, capabilities in front of goal and huge sign-on fee, infact when Luiz Daiz came to Liverpool in January he made an instant impact compared to Nunez, Erling Haaland had also made an impressive start and impact since his arrival to Man City, from my opinion Liverpool shouldn't have allow Mane to leave, they should have increase his weekly wages to keep him rather than gambling on Nunez, it's obvious that the club is struggling with scoring of goals, the hope of relying on consistent goal scoring through Salah, Firmino, Diogo Jota, Nunez and Luis Diaz is already dashed.

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September 14, 2022, 06:20:11 PM
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I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.
I think he should really pay attention to the tactical scheme used by kloop in order to support his performance. If you look at Sadio Mane when he was still with Liverpool he was the type of hardworking player who was able to control the midfield and front to pick up the ball with a strong physique that was a victory in keeping Liverpool's front line very aggressive last season. Well, since Mane departure, Liverpool seems to have not found their best performance in the last few matches. well if you say Nunez needs time to adapt I think it's a bit too late.
yes I see it like that too, Liverpool made a big mistake by releasing Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich. Without Mane, Liverpool started the Premier League this season with less convincing performance. Liverpool have only won twice, drawn three and lost once. In addition, Liverpool also performed poorly in the Champions League. Liverpool had to give up with a landslide score of 1-4 from Napoli. On the other hand, the decline in M Salah's performance was due to Mane being no longer in Liverpool's front line like in previous seasons. Hopefully Darwin Nunez can quickly get his best performance in the near future.
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September 14, 2022, 06:34:51 PM
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Klopp has started not using Nunez as a starter, he prefers to include him in the second half when the match is about to end.

nunez needs a lot of playing time to be able to hone his skills and also his sharpness as a striker so that Liverpool don't spend money in vain.
Nunez appeared to have a huge burden on Liverpool as he signed for big hopes. Just like Haaland, but Nunez has not proven much with the goals he scored. I'm sure he will need more time to be at his best with Liverpool, he has to work hard for his place even though he could be played at any time. A good physique will support a good performance too, but I don't think he will be good without hard work.

Liverpool managed to win the match against Ajax yesterday with a score of 2-1. It was a good result although it was very likely that the match would have been a draw had Matip not managed to score a few minutes before the end of the match. After yesterday's match, Liverpool have a long holiday to evaluate the form of their players. The league will return on October 1 for them after two matches were postponed by the Premier League authorities.

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September 14, 2022, 07:16:34 PM
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Sadio Mane was a key player in the Liverpool team and his absence have left a major gap that even the new replacement have not been able to fill in. I bet they are suffering the kick back of their decision made in the summer window. Mane was always there in tough games like this and always had his ways of getting the goals out of the blue and now they lack that kind of player that will always put in that extra effort and pull them through.

Liverpool made a very awful decision. I never knew they underrated that super star because of his kind of person, because of his humility and calmness they failed to understand the level of his work rate. There is hardly any club that will have a player like Mane and let him go easily. In a difficult game for Liverpool it is either Mane or Salah that will deliver in the game. Mane is no longer available and only Salah cannot do it. I am sure that Liverpool is regretting their action by now.
Sadio Mane and Mohammed Salah was a good chemistry that really made thing to happen for Liverpool.  Liverpool made a big mistake for not keeping mane and to treat him as an important player that is play a vital role. I know a player can't be in a club forever but the time mane left was not the right time. Am very sure the challenge Liverpool is facing is as a result of mane not available any more. Mohammad Salah and mane are two players in Liverpool then that can't do with each other and i know one of the player absence will affect the other.

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September 14, 2022, 07:18:15 PM
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yes I see it like that too, Liverpool made a big mistake by releasing Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich. Without Mane, Liverpool started the Premier League this season with less convincing performance. Liverpool have only won twice, drawn three and lost once. In addition, Liverpool also performed poorly in the Champions League. Liverpool had to give up with a landslide score of 1-4 from Napoli. On the other hand, the decline in M Salah's performance was due to Mane being no longer in Liverpool's front line like in previous seasons. Hopefully Darwin Nunez can quickly get his best performance in the near future.
A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..

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yes I see it like that too, Liverpool made a big mistake by releasing Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich. Without Mane, Liverpool started the Premier League this season with less convincing performance. Liverpool have only won twice, drawn three and lost once. In addition, Liverpool also performed poorly in the Champions League. Liverpool had to give up with a landslide score of 1-4 from Napoli. On the other hand, the decline in M Salah's performance was due to Mane being no longer in Liverpool's front line like in previous seasons. Hopefully Darwin Nunez can quickly get his best performance in the near future.
A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
Agree with what you said, in this case, for the beginning of this season Liverpool are really difficult to predict because their game is like a team that is in the middle of the board is not seeded.
Until now for the attack line, I can say that only Diaz is one of their supports because Salah and Nunez are still monotonous in their game and sometimes not a few of them make mistakes.

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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
It was very difficult to win Ajax, but I think it would be very difficult for any other team to play against Ajax now, because the team is in great shape and scores in every match. Liverpool can play and win, it’s not clear why such disastrous matches happen, as it was with Napoli, I can’t say that it was an underestimation of the team, there were just a few penalties that spoiled everything, but that’s not only thing, such matches are not uncommon for Liverpool now, Klopp need to set the players in a positive way, you need to raise the team spirit.

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September 14, 2022, 08:10:10 PM
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yes I see it like that too, Liverpool made a big mistake by releasing Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich. Without Mane, Liverpool started the Premier League this season with less convincing performance. Liverpool have only won twice, drawn three and lost once. In addition, Liverpool also performed poorly in the Champions League. Liverpool had to give up with a landslide score of 1-4 from Napoli. On the other hand, the decline in M Salah's performance was due to Mane being no longer in Liverpool's front line like in previous seasons. Hopefully Darwin Nunez can quickly get his best performance in the near future.
To be very honest with you, Liverpool knew they made a mistake by selling Mane, that was the reason why they were in a haste to have an immediate replacement and they got Nunes. Then the replacement is not working for them because Nunez on his own is a striker while Mane is a striker, a midfielder, a Defender and the worker in the team. Mane's work rate is second to none in the team. Salah is just better than him in terms of pace, but Mane was the real bulldozer.

A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..

I beg to disagree with you. A good team can easily be destabilized in the absence of one player even more than a team that is not good. A good team is like a bond, a good team is like a chain when one of the chain is losed the team can get spoilt easily.
For example, check Barcelona and Messi when Messi left Barcelona, it was as if the chain got broken so they decided to build a new team which Xavi did for them.

So, a strong team that understand one another so perfectly can get disabilized when one of the team members leaves.

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Liverpool will find a way to bounce back from their declining performance winning Ajax is enough proof. I still believe Klopp is up to a new tactics. The departure of Mane caused a big loophole in Liverpools attack but i believe Klopp will get a new workable tactics before the seasons goes half way. Just the same way Arteta did the strong comeback last season i strongly believe klopp will do same
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Sadio Mane and Mohammed Salah was a good chemistry that really made thing to happen for Liverpool.  Liverpool made a big mistake for not keeping mane and to treat him as an important player that is play a vital role. I know a player can't be in a club forever but the time mane left was not the right time. Am very sure the challenge Liverpool is facing is as a result of mane not available any more. Mohammad Salah and mane are two players in Liverpool then that can't do with each other and i know one of the player absence will affect the other.

I was thinking that D. Jota and L. Diaz were perfect replacement for S. Mane but I was totally wrong. Mane was an extraordinary player in Liverpool and his partnership with M. Salah was perfect. And he had influence on Salah and he sometimes force Salah to be selfless and give goal scoring passes to others. But what I saw yesterday was a total bunch of selfish Liverpool players. It is a shame for a team to have ten shots on target and scored just two but its opponent got just one and scored it.
I doubt there ability to make any impact in the Champions League if the continue with this performance. Maybe Jürgen Klopp might soon join his compatriot Thomas Tuchel.

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September 14, 2022, 08:37:53 PM
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Liverpool will find a way to bounce back from their declining performance winning Ajax is enough proof. I still believe Klopp is up to a new tactics. The departure of Mane caused a big loophole in Liverpools attack but i believe Klopp will get a new workable tactics before the seasons goes half way. Just the same way Arteta did the strong comeback last season i strongly believe klopp will do same
Very happy to see when Liverpool can win the game in the Champions League against Ajax. with these results proves that Liverpool can indeed rise briefly. and now I am very tensed watching the match between Manchester city vs Dortmund. while Manchester City is 1 goal behind. and Dortmund are still 1 goal ahead. I hope Manchester City can score a lot of goals in that game. but until the 79th minute there was no sign of Man City being able to score.

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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..

Yeah, a good team shouldn’t be decentralized or seem to get weak with the departure of a player. Mane was obviously one of Liverpool prized assets and would surely be missed. I think the Liverpool forward with Mane in it were in sync, therefore playing superbly. Mane was instrumental in the forward, midfield and even defense and was highly dependable to create chances for goals and also to score goals. They’ve probably realized at this point they’ve made a grave error in letting Mane go.

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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top...
In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form.
Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..

I beg to disagree with you. A good team can easily be destabilized in the absence of one player even more than a team that is not good. A good team is like a bond, a good team is like a chain when one of the chain is losed the team can get spoilt easily.
For example, check Barcelona and Messi when Messi left Barcelona, it was as if the chain got broken so they decided to build a new team which Xavi did for them.

So, a strong team that understand one another so perfectly can get disabilized when one of the team members leaves.
Of course you can disagree with me or anyone here mate, this is why we have a discussion here Wink
Barcelona was destabilised before Messi departure. I remember two seasons ago, Messi was like playing alone with a bunch of losers (no offence, just exaggerating) and with his departure things changed but of course the situation was already bad, so there isn't many things to expect there. The situation was fixed in Barcelona only after Xavi's arrival.
Why I said a team should not only rely on 1 player, it is because you should have someone else to cover him or at least a strategy to make his absence less effective on the team. Real Madrid didn't stop winning although Benzema injury, Bayern dropped in performance but still fighting in top, at the opposite Liverpool is on total chaos right now.

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