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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top... In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form. Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
Yeah, a good team shouldn’t be decentralized or seem to get weak with the departure of a player. Mane was obviously one of Liverpool prized assets and would surely be missed. I think the Liverpool forward with Mane in it were in sync, therefore playing superbly. Mane was instrumental in the forward, midfield and even defense and was highly dependable to create chances for goals and also to score goals. They’ve probably realized at this point they’ve made a grave error in letting Mane go.
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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top... In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form. Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
I beg to disagree with you. A good team can easily be destabilized in the absence of one player even more than a team that is not good. A good team is like a bond, a good team is like a chain when one of the chain is losed the team can get spoilt easily. For example, check Barcelona and Messi when Messi left Barcelona, it was as if the chain got broken so they decided to build a new team which Xavi did for them. So, a strong team that understand one another so perfectly can get disabilized when one of the team members leaves. Of course you can disagree with me or anyone here mate, this is why we have a discussion here ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Barcelona was destabilised before Messi departure. I remember two seasons ago, Messi was like playing alone with a bunch of losers (no offence, just exaggerating) and with his departure things changed but of course the situation was already bad, so there isn't many things to expect there. The situation was fixed in Barcelona only after Xavi's arrival. Why I said a team should not only rely on 1 player, it is because you should have someone else to cover him or at least a strategy to make his absence less effective on the team. Real Madrid didn't stop winning although Benzema injury, Bayern dropped in performance but still fighting in top, at the opposite Liverpool is on total chaos right now.
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September 14, 2022, 09:00:05 PM |
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Arsenal started the season quite well. This is very different from what happened last season, even Arteta's position was on the brink at the time. Now Arteta has the main task to keep the consistency of his men so that they get a good achievement this season, but I don't think it will be an easy job because every team will definitely be haunted by player injury problems and the possibility of internal problems. If Arsenal can cope with it all, at least they will be able to stay in the top 4.
Arsenal management is not as cruel as other teams who will immediately fire the coach if the team gets bad results in a row, just like Wenger before I think Arteta position has been quite safe because of the great trust of management in Arteta, we admit that consistency is still a classic problem that every season hit and as a fan, I'm a little pessimistic if we will last long enough at the top of the current table, the inconsistent play and also the lack of qualified reserves are the reasons I doubt Arsenal can can stay at the top of the standings even though we have played quite well so far, but even so, I hope Arteta can find solutions and also the right strategy in the face of a hectic schedule like now,especially in dealing with the shortage of the defensive midfield sector. Arsenal management are considerate and more understanding and patient when it comes to cutting ties with coaches, in Wenger's time when the club was in a really bad shape and everyone thought Wenger will be fired immediately it didn't happen that way instead he was giving enough time to try and get the team together and back in shape, same scenerio with Arteta, it wasn't so good for Arteta in his first 6months joining the club but he was giving time to work with the team even when he was also getting bad results he still had the trust and support of the management which as a result gave him time to understand the team and transform the team to a better state.
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September 14, 2022, 09:04:04 PM |
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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top... In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form. Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
Yeah, a good team shouldn’t be decentralized or seem to get weak with the departure of a player. Mane was obviously one of Liverpool prized assets and would surely be missed. I think the Liverpool forward with Mane in it were in sync, therefore playing superbly. Mane was instrumental in the forward, midfield and even defense and was highly dependable to create chances for goals and also to score goals. They’ve probably realized at this point they’ve made a grave error in letting Mane go. Maybe you're right but every team has to do it, they can't depend on one player because every player must reach retirement maybe for now the impact is still clearly visible but with time everything will be normal Liverpool must focus on rebuilding teamwork Moh Salah is one of the Liverpool players who have experienced a decline in performance I don't see him as aggressive as last season.
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September 14, 2022, 09:12:46 PM |
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I don't think that Arsenal will be able to hold on to their performance until the end of the season because they don't have that much squad depth. Manchester City really lacked a lethal striker for the last few seasons after Sergio Aguero left. But now as they have bought Erling Haaland, they will really try to push for the Champions League title which they have been wanting to win for the first seasons but were unable to do so.
So far Haaland has shown what he is capable of as he scored 10 goals in only 6 matches. So far Chelsea and Liverpool have been playing their game this season so Manchester City might have a really good opportunity to grab this and be the best team in England and possibly Europe.
If for any reason Arsenal will be unable to maintain this form to the end of the season it will be because of the lack in squad depth cause the players have the spirit and zeal to fight hard and win games, they have showed a lot of improvement in their performances and I think if the club is unable to bring in new signings to support the ones they have already the available ones will burn off and suffer fatigue.
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Liverpool will find a way to bounce back from their declining performance winning Ajax is enough proof. I still believe Klopp is up to a new tactics. The departure of Mane caused a big loophole in Liverpools attack but i believe Klopp will get a new workable tactics before the seasons goes half way. Just the same way Arteta did the strong comeback last season i strongly believe klopp will do same
Liverpool's problem this season has been a lack of consistency; however, their match against Bournemouth should have shown them to be strong enough to bounce back, as they won 9-0. Man's departure has been noted, as Liverpool's attack is not as strong as it once was. I'm hoping Klopp can make do with the players he has available to get the team back on track.
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September 14, 2022, 09:39:20 PM |
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Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland. Haaland really made Manchester City officials and Pep Guardiola very satisfied with his performance, while Nunez, who was brought in by Liverpool at an expensive price, had not been able to show the best performance like last season. Haaland and Nunez both performed brilliantly last season with their respective clubs. Haaland was able to improve his form after moving to the EPL, while Nunez is still struggling to perform well with Liverpool. After seeing Haaland performances with Manchester City who continued to score goals, it further strengthened the assumption that he would succeed in becoming the ELP Top Scorer in his first season. Haaland is an exceptional player, he is so good and has been a terror to every opposition defense he has played against. Since Haaland's arrival Manchester City have been extremely powerful, they have strengthened and are winning games easily now because of goals from Haaland. I had little doubt that Nunez will be as good and impressive as Erling Haaland and so far Haaland has been proving me right.
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September 14, 2022, 09:45:47 PM |
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Calling ten had didn't like him was not a correct statement.
Ten Hag excludes Ronaldo from his plan once Ten Hag came to Man United previously. Do you think it was the indication Ten Hag likes Ronaldo? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The problem is ronaldo can't adapt with new united. he was not aware if the current united was actually different compared when it was being managed by sir alex ferguson.
Ronaldo adapted well at Man United in his first season previously, he even became the top scorer in Man United. But he played regularly as the starter in the previous season. It is different when Ten Hag became the coach, Ronaldo often became the substitution player. Ronaldo sits on the bench for a longer time right now. So, it is not about Ronaldo's adaptation, but Ronaldo is no longer to be the main striker. It can be seen from what happened with meguire that is rarely playing for MU again.
Don't compare Ronaldo with Maguire, it is a too different case. Maguire is clearly a troubled player, while Ronaldo is a valuable player.
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September 14, 2022, 09:53:36 PM |
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Snip.
Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland. Haaland really made Manchester City officials and Pep Guardiola very satisfied with his performance, while Nunez, who was brought in by Liverpool at an expensive price, had not been able to show the best performance like last season. Haaland and Nunez both performed brilliantly last season with their respective clubs. Haaland was able to improve his form after moving to the EPL, while Nunez is still struggling to perform well with Liverpool. After seeing Haaland performances with Manchester City who continued to score goals, it further strengthened the assumption that he would succeed in becoming the ELP Top Scorer in his first season. Haaland is an exceptional player, he is so good and has been a terror to every opposition defense he has played against. Since Haaland's arrival Manchester City have been extremely powerful, they have strengthened and are winning games easily now because of goals from Haaland. I had little doubt that Nunez will be as good and impressive as Erling Haaland and so far Haaland has been proving me right. Actually, before joining Man City, I had seen Haaland several times when he was still playing for Dortmund. Haaland is a very prolific striker, he moves very quickly and has a very good finishing when he gets chances. So it's natural that many big European clubs want Haaland, and it turns out that Man City managed to get him. This means that Man City is very lucky to get a striker like Haaland, especially since Haaland is still young, so Haaland can still develop even better. Now Haaland has shown that he is a prolific striker, with almost every game Haaland can score for Man City. Haaland's contribution is also now very large, what's extraordinary about Haaland is his very fast adaptability. Very different from Darwin Nunez who until now still has not shown a satisfactory performance for Liverpool. Even though Nunez was bought by Liverpool at a very expensive price, until now his performance is still fairly standard. Maybe Darwin Nunez doesn't have the ability to adapt quickly, so Liverpool have to be a little patient waiting for Nunez to adapt in the Premier League.
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September 14, 2022, 10:10:28 PM |
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
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September 14, 2022, 10:27:15 PM |
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence,
To me I don't think sterling performed very well in the match, he wasted lot's of opportunities before he could finally score a goal, if he utilized all the opportunities he had am sure Chelsea will have scored more than 1 goal. I prefer James performance in the match, he created lots of opportunities but unfortunately they couldn't convert any of it to goal, I think the new Chelsea coach have lot's to do, his performance in the first match is not really good, I don't think FC Salzburg is a big team that Chelsea shouldn't be able to win, I think Chelsea should be ashamed of their self, they are already at the bottom of the table.
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September 14, 2022, 10:32:34 PM |
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A good team should not be destabilised with the departure of on one player. Mane was one of the best there but definitely not the only one! The decline of the performance of the team as a whole, including Salah, made them looks like a mid-table team and not one of the top... In yesterday's Champions League game, I doubted they could get 3 points, yet they won, barely, vs Ajax. Yet, they aren't reassuring and still not confident about them getting to their form. Well, the real shocking thing for me is Spurs defeat against Sporting..
I beg to disagree with you. A good team can easily be destabilized in the absence of one player even more than a team that is not good. A good team is like a bond, a good team is like a chain when one of the chain is losed the team can get spoilt easily. For example, check Barcelona and Messi when Messi left Barcelona, it was as if the chain got broken so they decided to build a new team which Xavi did for them. So, a strong team that understand one another so perfectly can get disabilized when one of the team members leaves. Of course you can disagree with me or anyone here mate, this is why we have a discussion here ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Barcelona was destabilised before Messi departure. I remember two seasons ago, Messi was like playing alone with a bunch of losers (no offence, just exaggerating) and with his departure things changed but of course the situation was already bad, so there isn't many things to expect there. The situation was fixed in Barcelona only after Xavi's arrival. Why I said a team should not only rely on 1 player, it is because you should have someone else to cover him or at least a strategy to make his absence less effective on the team. Real Madrid didn't stop winning although Benzema injury, Bayern dropped in performance but still fighting in top, at the opposite Liverpool is on total chaos right now. Thank you mate, I can understand your point clearer this time around. It is never advisable for a team not to have a backup plan for any position in case of possible transfer, injuries or any other emergencies that may arise. But if we follow football very closely we will understand that clubs use to have one player that they will build the team around, except some clubs. If you take a look at Real Madrid, the club is built around Benzema. In the absence of Benzema, it doesn't mean that they can't win matches, but their overall season performance would be low and in big matches like El Clasico, they would end up losing. Anyways, in Liverpool the team was not built around Mane but around Salah, but Mane was a silent achievement and the powerhouse of the club. It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
Do you also realise that Chelsea sacked their coach few days ago, do you remember that a new coach took them to this match? In my personal assessment I will say that Potter has done well for not losing in his first match. Atleast his confidence is boosted to make some good decisions. Next time try to fix this in champions league thread to avoid off topic.
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence,
To me I don't think sterling performed very well in the match, he wasted lot's of opportunities before he could finally score a goal, if he utilized all the opportunities he had am sure Chelsea will have scored more than 1 goal. I prefer James performance in the match, he created lots of opportunities but unfortunately they couldn't convert any of it to goal, I think the new Chelsea coach have lot's to do, his performance in the first match is not really good, I don't think FC Salzburg is a big team that Chelsea shouldn't be able to win, I think Chelsea should be ashamed of their self, they are already at the bottom of the table. It's just the beginning because regardless of how squandered the opportunity is of course it's still a good thing for Potter because with that minimal amount of time he can at least change Chelsea a bit to his liking and I don't see too many faults in this. As for Sterling, he is the one who scores the goals and that is the main point to be underlined.
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September 14, 2022, 11:40:24 PM |
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A lot of premier league matches have been postponed this weekend,including the Europa league that Arsenal and PSV would have played,it has also been postponed due to lack of police.But nevertheless,they did not postpone the one that is on Sunday,which they will be playing against Brentford,a team that have shown big character this season.They are very good and are very fast in counter attacking.Arsenal have an injury boost on Thomas Partey,he has returned to training,and maybe available for selection against Brendfort,and that is the only reason why they might be able to win Brendfort, if not,if Sambi Lokonga is going be the one in contention,there is every possibility that Arsenal may either draw or loose that match.
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence. Chelsea is not a big team anymore.
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September 14, 2022, 11:48:00 PM |
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Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.
Even before the game against Manchester United, I concluded that Arsenal almost got a draw against Aston Villa. So even though Arsenal have second-tier players who may have good quality too I'm still not sure Arsenal will be able to maintain consistency throughout this season. The Premier League has become very competitive from season to season, so how good the quality of their squad is I personally am not sure the teams in the Premier League today can be consistent including Manchester City as well. Looking at the current opponents but I think still pretty sure with Arsenal at the moment in next week's game. Brentford surprised by destroying Manchester United but after that they are still the same as any other mid-table team in conditions that are indeed uncertain. Now Arsenal are very seeded and of course Arteta doesn't want to let go of his position right now because if this match ends in a draw or loses he will most likely be displaced from his current position at the top of the standings.
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September 14, 2022, 11:54:29 PM Last edit: September 15, 2022, 12:13:41 AM by sayaya17 |
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A lot of premier league matches have been postponed this weekend,including the Europa league that Arsenal and PSV would have played,it has also been postponed due to lack of police.But nevertheless,they did not postpone the one that is on Sunday,which they will be playing against Brentford,a team that have shown big character this season.They are very good and are very fast in counter attacking.Arsenal have an injury boost on Thomas Partey,he has returned to training,and maybe available for selection against Brendfort,and that is the only reason why they might be able to win Brendfort, if not,if Sambi Lokonga is going be the one in contention,there is every possibility that Arsenal may either draw or loose that match.
It is not possible to postpone the Premier League for too long, because later it will be difficult to rearrange the match schedule. Therefore this week the Premier League will be back again, I also can't wait to see Arsenal play again. Although Arsenal after suffering a defeat against Man United could recover by beating Zurich in the Europa League. But matches in the Premier League are much different, Arsenal must be under more pressure. Moreover, Arsenal's position is still at the top, so Arsenal are obliged to win against Brentford, if Arsenal do not want their position to go down. But the problem is that Brentford are not an easy team to beat, they have a very fast counter-attack as you say. Moreover, Brentford has performed well this season, and out of 6 matches, they only lost once and even managed to beat Man United with a big score. So Arsenal have to be careful against Brentford, but I believe Arteta can get Arsenal to beat Brentford.
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September 14, 2022, 11:59:24 PM |
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It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea.
OMG, I can't believe you said Chelsea is garbage!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I can agree that it is a shame to fail beating a small club like Salzburg, especially since the match was on Stamford Bridge (Chelsea home). But I think " saying Chelsea as garbage is too much". Chelsea just hired a new coach, please give him some weeks to bring improvement to Chelsea performance. I still believe that this new coach (Potter) can change the situation in Chelsea squad. But it should be not easy! He must evaluate every single Chelsea player, and he must find a proper strategy to apply for a more effective game.
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September 15, 2022, 04:22:48 AM |
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Liverpool will find a way to bounce back from their declining performance winning Ajax is enough proof. I still believe Klopp is up to a new tactics. The departure of Mane caused a big loophole in Liverpools attack but i believe Klopp will get a new workable tactics before the seasons goes half way. Just the same way Arteta did the strong comeback last season i strongly believe klopp will do same
Yes, Liverpool will definitely improve higher soon because their coach is seriously working to ensure they get it right on time to make their fans happy like the way they did in the last season that made them to tool second position in the premier league competition. I believe, their coach is still looking for a potential striker that can handle Sadio mane position very well in this season, because since he left the team made Salah not to score goals like the way he used to score goals for Liverpool. If Salah can get someone that can assist him in the front like the way Sadio mane did when he was in Liverpool last season, he will definitely shine again before the end of this tournament.
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It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .
Whilst Liverpool will definitely get better as the games come, without mincing words it has been a very far from good start for Liverpool, i think they are five points behind City already, now imagine a situation were that gap widens, that prolly means Liverpool can forget about the title, so there is no question of that, Liverpool have started badly in the EPL. It has been them and City going hammer and tongs for the title for the past couple of seasons now, but if they don't improve, and fast, then it might be City and Arsenal, or some other team competing for the title this season. Everyone knows that they are far away from the title and there is no denying that but the reality is that they are not really giving up just yet, I am guessing that it is going to take a lot more for Liverpool to give up than just 5 points, they are the team that trails City every single year and they are usually behind and they still play a beautiful football just to make sure that if City screws up, they are there to win it. Obviously City rarely screws up and they win many games in a row, but "just in case" they do, Liverpool is always there. This year they started terribly, but I am guessing that they will recover and do better, they finished third a few years back and then chased City again a year later.
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