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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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September 15, 2022, 08:56:12 PM
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I think Liverpool's inconsistency doesn't necessarily mean they've lost Mane.  However, an injury storm at the start of the season really made the Reds dizzy and couldn't show their best performance.  I believe Liverpool's performance will improve again if all the players get back fit.
I don't think we should blame the injury as a cause of the decrease in Liverpool players' performance. For example, when they got 2 draws on the 2 early matches in EPL, almost all the key players were available (no problem with injury). So, the problem isn't on the injured players but it is probably on the tactics or the lineups. Or the problem may come from the mentality of the players, it is also a possible reason. In addition, we can't avoid that missing Mane changing the power of Liverpool attacking a bit. There is no player who can play like Mane, even Nunez can't play aggresively as Mane. Liverpool misses a fast & aggressive winger.

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September 15, 2022, 09:00:05 PM
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Leicester is not the Leicester I have seen performances in the last few seasons. Yes, their decline is very clear after being without a win in the Premier League until week 6. Their achievement was only able to play a draw and the rest ended in defeat, which caused them to occupy the bottom of the standings. Not only that, they are one of the two teams that have conceded the most goals.
Leicester City’s performance is the worst so far. They have lost most of their games this season and are currently sitting at the bottom half of the table acquiring just a point from 6 games played which is very poor especially for a team which have one the premier league some years ago. I expected more from Leicester City though they should be at to top half of the league even if not in the top six.
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September 15, 2022, 09:06:42 PM
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This is going to be a difficult season for Chelsea. Not sure how to rate them right now. Also achieved a bad result in the CL. They are currently in 6th place, but not all have had top teams. They can easily move up the rankings, but the game is not good. Arsenal are doing well this season with just 1 loss and 5 wins. Arsenal have also played better and better in recent years, and it seems to have been that way from the start. I'm curious if they play against top teams like Man City how it will go. We haven't seen Arsenal in the CL for a long time unfortunately. Maybe this season?

Any chance of winning a single title is over for Chelsea
Another poor stat in the champions league this season
They should have had a game against Liverpool don't know why it was postponed.

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September 15, 2022, 09:09:54 PM
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Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.
I don't agree that is the reason Mane left the club. Mane is one important player in the Liverpool squad and one who was not really appreciated for his efforts. When I discovered how much Mane was earning at Liverpool I was so disappointed because he was working like a donkey and eating like a mouse which doesn't feel right at all. He deserved better atleast for his work rate and contributions. The second reason was that he was hiding under the shadows of Salah and needed space to shine.
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September 15, 2022, 09:22:02 PM
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As for Sterling, he is the one who scores the goals and that is the main point to be underlined.
We know that sterling was the one that scored for Chelsea yesterday, which everybody think he performed well, Chelsea draw yesterday's match against FC Salzburg, sterling scored just 1 goal yesterday after wasting multiple opportunities which he was suppose to have converted to goal, if he was able to convert all the opportunies he had yesterday into goals, am sure Chelsea won't have draw the match they played yesterday, if Chelsea won yesterday's match they won't have been in 4th position on the table. It's really annoying, how will Chelsea be in 4th position and their last two matches have been against small teams.
Sterling is the quality player, and surely he can perform much better but sadly right now things are not favoring Chelsea and him because new team which is surely needs time for having adjustment, and suddenly they lost their coach which is also having some impact on team performance, but we can expect better from him and Aubameyang in coming matches because for me this is deadly combo, and they can thrash any defense with their play and skill.

Due to poor performance right now few top ranked teams are suffering in this group stage which is surely a matter of concern with Chelsea is at bottom with Sevilla and Juventus and Leipzig are also suffering badly and trying to recover which is not easy for them as they are facing good quality teams which are improving their quality.
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September 15, 2022, 09:24:37 PM
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Sadio Mane is outmatched by Mohammed Salah, in terms of the competition for a place in the hearts of fans as well as management. That's what makes Mane not feel at home at Liverpool because of the difference in treatment in my opinion.
At Bayern Munich he got something he didn't get at Liverpool, obviously as a player he definitely chooses what he wants. But as far as what you say is true, Mane has not been able to perform at his best.
I don't agree that is the reason Mane left the club. Mane is one important player in the Liverpool squad and one who was not really appreciated for his efforts. When I discovered how much Mane was earning at Liverpool I was so disappointed because he was working like a donkey and eating like a mouse which doesn't feel right at all. He deserved better atleast for his work rate and contributions. The second reason was that he was hiding under the shadows of Salah and needed space to shine.

I was about saying the same thing, working so hard to earn such little weekly with tax added
Good thing he left I know they will never get a tyep and replacement for Mane not even Diaz can match him up
He was paid little but will still use them to fund hospitals and schools at his village, mane deserves a better life after football

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September 15, 2022, 09:27:19 PM
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence.
Chelsea is not a big team anymore.

Chelsea is still a big team after all, every team goes through these stages on different occasions and it is no surprise to me that Chelsea are going through this phase, it happens and they will get things together with time, calling Chelsea fc garbage doesn't seem right at all. I strongly believe they will get back together and back to winning games again and Todd Boehly believe Potter is the man to get the job done.
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September 15, 2022, 09:48:05 PM
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It's unbelievable that Chelsea can not defeat Salzburg for the match the score about 15 minutes after the second half, assuming other players strike like sterling the goal would have be more than one goal but the things is that James is fail to play the match with confidence, and even when sterling score the goal i thought that either Chelsea players will defend the goal for enable them to win or give another goal, not knowing that Salzburg will equalize the match, Chelsea players need serious practice and orientation before match to make sure that they protect their goal by playing defensive game immediately they scored and especially second half
It's not a big surprise. Chelsea was a garbage team for now that can't perform consistent under any coach. Even when todd was changing coach hundreds of times and the result will always be the same. Chelsea's player has a very very bad defensive and attacker for now. Getting draw with salzburg is a big shame for chelsea. I didn't even understand why todd didn't even understand the main problem in chelsea. It's not about the coach but it must be the internal from the club that makes player didn't feel confidence.
Chelsea is not a big team anymore.

Chelsea is still a big team after all, every team goes through these stages on different occasions and it is no surprise to me that Chelsea are going through this phase, it happens and they will get things together with time, calling Chelsea fc garbage doesn't seem right at all. I strongly believe they will get back together and back to winning games again and Todd Boehly believe Potter is the man to get the job done.

Chelsea is actually in the process of development, Chelsea has just changed ownership, so Chelsea is still in the process of changing in
a good direction. Todd Boehly as the new Chelsea owner has also shown his seriousness by spending a large transfer budget to bring in
several new players, in order to improve Chelsea's performance even better. Then because Chelsea's form was bad at the start of the season,
even though Chelsea spent a lot of money to be able to bring in quality players, so finally Todd Boehly was disappointed and replaced Tuchel
with Graham Potter. Now Graham Potter is trying to improve Chelsea's form. So we have to give Potter time to get Chelsea back to their best,
and not because Chelsea still haven't shown a good performance, then we can call it a garbage team. It's too rude to say that, whereas
the Chelsea squad now has a lot of quality players and now Chelsea has a good coach. If Potter has found the right strategy, I'm sure Chelsea
will return to being a strong team that can win many games.

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September 15, 2022, 09:49:33 PM
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Klopp and ten Haag have different approaches and I think Klopp will get his team fixed. They are having a rough patch after such a long time. He just needs sometime and I am sure the team will be right on its track.

Well Klopp has it pretty rough though. Imagine having the team that was so good last season then suddenly, your team kept losing especially against Manchester United that had it rough on the few early games. That would actually put a mental damage onto your team which probably would affect their performances but yeah pretty sure Liverpool would bounce back from that

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September 15, 2022, 09:51:37 PM
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I don't know if Nunez will fail this season to become an important striker at Liverpool, but let him adapt well without much pressure. Fans must be prepared for all the consequences regarding new players, including Nunez. He will be good with time but Klopp has to really make him confident in every match.

Nunez's adaptation process did not go well where in the early matches of this season he had to be given a red card. He hasn't played in a few games and by then he has gone down and stopped scoring goals. Every fan expects the best from him, but Liverpool's poor form at the moment is a boon for Manchester City and Arsenal in the top standings.
Nunez still has a chance and more time to adjust and come back into the game, after being criticized at the beginning of the season he got back into the game and score a few goals before been sent off for head booting a player and since then has not show that level of performance he was on before the match ban. Nunez is a talented player and I have a feeling he will get back his form again.
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September 15, 2022, 09:55:53 PM
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Any chance of winning a single title is over for Chelsea
Another poor stat in the champions league this season
They should have had a game against Liverpool don't know why it was postponed.
There should be a chance to win a title because Chelsea is playing in some competitions. Sure, they are in a poor performance but we can claim they have no longer a chance to get a title. But to win UCL title, I think the chance is too small. They seem to have the opportunity to win a title in the local competition.

Regarding the match against Liverpool, it is on matchday 8. They have 1 match against Fulham on matchday 7 before the match against Liverpool. I think the result of the match against Fulham will have a crucial impact. If they win, it can boost the mentality of Chelsea players. So, they may have a bigger chance to win against Liverpool in the next match.


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September 15, 2022, 09:58:37 PM
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Klopp and ten Haag have different approaches and I think Klopp will get his team fixed. They are having a rough patch after such a long time. He just needs sometime and I am sure the team will be right on its track.

Well Klopp has it pretty rough though. Imagine having the team that was so good last season then suddenly, your team kept losing especially against Manchester United that had it rough on the few early games. That would actually put a mental damage onto your team which probably would affect their performances but yeah pretty sure Liverpool would bounce back from that
Come on has lost just once and regardless, MU is not that bad, so the match is still in the Big Match.
Don't pretend to say that losing to MU is a failure because if you look at it now, MU is still maintaining the momentum.
Liverpool are currently on a bad start but of course this can still be improved, especially since the games in the season are only week 7 and there are still plenty of opportunities to compete in the top 4.

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September 15, 2022, 10:05:39 PM
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This is going to be a difficult season for Chelsea. Not sure how to rate them right now. Also achieved a bad result in the CL. They are currently in 6th place, but not all have had top teams. They can easily move up the rankings, but the game is not good. Arsenal are doing well this season with just 1 loss and 5 wins. Arsenal have also played better and better in recent years, and it seems to have been that way from the start. I'm curious if they play against top teams like Man City how it will go. We haven't seen Arsenal in the CL for a long time unfortunately. Maybe this season?
Is not too late for Chelsea to turn things around, I think there is lot of positive in their champions League game against Salzburg, I have strong belief that Graham potter will fix this, he has quality players here at Chelsea than he does at Brighton and good wing backs like James and his former player cucurela that can allow him play his style of formation. Arsenal are doing well right now they are topping the league but with just one point ahead of Manchester city and Tottenham Hotspur and I don't think personally that they can retain that position before the players travel to the world cup.
Gram Potter can only fix Chelsea team when he introduce another strategies for the player, the first match he leads at 77 minutes Salzburg equalize the match. The only thing he should do is buy more strikes because Chelsea lack strike, assuming that sterling did not try it's best to make sure that he strike the ball that enters goal Chelsea wouldn't have score, for Chelsea to win their match and protect their matches, they have two things, to play defensive game and have more striker
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September 15, 2022, 10:07:58 PM
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I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.
Still, it's included in productivity, right? It's okay to score goals for Liverpool but it would be better if they were more consistent. Especially for Salah because at this time I still haven't seen Salah's performance like last season because this season during the 6 matches Liverpool played, Salah only contributed two goals from Liverpool's total goals at this time.

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September 15, 2022, 10:13:20 PM
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This is going to be a difficult season for Chelsea. Not sure how to rate them right now. Also achieved a bad result in the CL. They are currently in 6th place, but not all have had top teams. They can easily move up the rankings, but the game is not good. Arsenal are doing well this season with just 1 loss and 5 wins. Arsenal have also played better and better in recent years, and it seems to have been that way from the start. I'm curious if they play against top teams like Man City how it will go. We haven't seen Arsenal in the CL for a long time unfortunately. Maybe this season?
When Chelsea failed to get signings early in the transfer window before the preseason games and I always knew it will be a problem when the league starts. It is expected by majority managers that before the resumption of the leagues transfers should be done early to give the manager time to connect with the team and get the players especially the incomings to understand the tactics and playing style before the preseason games which wasn't the case at Chelsea so I expected these problems to come.
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September 15, 2022, 10:35:03 PM
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I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.
Still, it's included in productivity, right? It's okay to score goals for Liverpool but it would be better if they were more consistent. Especially for Salah because at this time I still haven't seen Salah's performance like last season because this season during the 6 matches Liverpool played, Salah only contributed two goals from Liverpool's total goals at this time.

Liverpool's forwards haven't found their best form yet, that's why Liverpool are still having trouble scoring goals in every game. Only the match
against Bournemouth where Liverpool's front line performance was quite satisfactory. It is the job of Klopp to continue to motivate Liverpool players
to be able to return to their best form like the previous season. Because this season Liverpool's performance looks down, including Mohamed Salah
as Liverpool's key player, his performance has greatly decreased compared to the previous season.

This season Salah has struggled to score goals, even as Liverpool beat Bournemouth 9-0, Salah who played 90 minutes in the match did not score
a single goal. I hope Salah can return to his best form, because Liverpool need Salah to be productive again to be able to win many games,
because the previous season Salah scored many important goals. I also hope that Darwin Nunez can quickly adapt to the Liverpool game,
because to make Liverpool win many victories is not enough just to rely on Salah alone, but it is hoped that Nunez can be productive and also score
goals. Moreover, Nunez plays as a center forward, Darwin Nunez should be more productive than Salah.

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September 15, 2022, 10:51:50 PM
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. Still, it's included in productivity, right? It's okay to score goals for Liverpool but it would be better if they were more consistent. Especially for Salah because at this time I still haven't seen Salah's performance like last season because this season during the 6 matches Liverpool played, Salah only contributed two goals from Liverpool's total goals at this time.
What i want to make you to understand is that players have a duration of performance and also be lucky to make a good name a team and season tournament, Salah football strategies has tried to reduce in activeness, even if you watch Ronald you see it's performance in Manchester united has obviously change because you won't understand, the age of footballers add more meaning and their performance in football, so  Salah what make the performance to reduce is age..this is a personal suggestion
Age is a major factor in how soccer athletes have strong stamina and not, when they are young the stamina and strength are very high, but when they get older, stamina and strength will decrease over time, therefore gold in the world of football is not will last a long time, there will definitely be someone to replace it because it is younger and very agile. As for the ronaldo problem, he should have realized that he is getting older and not like him when he was young.

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September 15, 2022, 11:05:07 PM
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This is going to be a difficult season for Chelsea. Not sure how to rate them right now. Also achieved a bad result in the CL. They are currently in 6th place, but not all have had top teams. They can easily move up the rankings, but the game is not good. Arsenal are doing well this season with just 1 loss and 5 wins. Arsenal have also played better and better in recent years, and it seems to have been that way from the start. I'm curious if they play against top teams like Man City how it will go. We haven't seen Arsenal in the CL for a long time unfortunately. Maybe this season?
When Chelsea failed to get signings early in the transfer window before the preseason games and I always knew it will be a problem when the league starts. It is expected by majority managers that before the resumption of the leagues transfers should be done early to give the manager time to connect with the team and get the players especially the incomings to understand the tactics and playing style before the preseason games which wasn't the case at Chelsea so I expected these problems to come.
But in this case, actually Chelsea have brought in a lot of players I think for this season and indeed this is still one of the problems because the new players still can't understand the scheme that Chelsea is running.
On the other hand their core players are mostly gone which makes it even more difficult for them but maybe with the arrival of Potter now it will be better than before because in the early games the scheme was not too bad for Chelsea.

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September 15, 2022, 11:09:42 PM
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. Still, it's included in productivity, right? It's okay to score goals for Liverpool but it would be better if they were more consistent. Especially for Salah because at this time I still haven't seen Salah's performance like last season because this season during the 6 matches Liverpool played, Salah only contributed two goals from Liverpool's total goals at this time.
What i want to make you to understand is that players have a duration of performance and also be lucky to make a good name a team and season tournament, Salah football strategies has tried to reduce in activeness, even if you watch Ronald you see it's performance in Manchester united has obviously change because you won't understand, the age of footballers add more meaning and their performance in football, so  Salah what make the performance to reduce is age..this is a personal suggestion

But looking at Ronaldo, you can't say that he has become worse. Yes, he is scoring fewer goals, but his movements on the field are exactly the same as before. So we can conclude that his eyesight has deteriorated and that's why he shoots past the goal? Or he can't see his partners? Obviously not. It's more the same luck, but it's not related to age.

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September 15, 2022, 11:26:27 PM
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...if you watch Ronald you see it's performance in Manchester united has obviously change because you won't understand, the age of footballers add more meaning and their performance in football, so  Salah what make the performance to reduce is age..this is a personal suggestion

But looking at Ronaldo, you can't say that he has become worse. Yes, he is scoring fewer goals, but his movements on the field are exactly the same as before. So we can conclude that his eyesight has deteriorated and that's why he shoots past the goal? Or he can't see his partners? Obviously not. It's more the same luck, but it's not related to age.
Exactly, actually there are some factors why Ronaldo's performance seems like decreasing in Man United this season (not the previous one, because he was the top scorer the previous season). I am sure that although he is older enough, his ability and skills, also his power are still strong enough. The combination of the skill may be better than that several players in the club. But this season, the strategy of the coach is very different from the previous one. Ronaldo doesn't become the main player to set in the first line up. The chance to make a goal is also very small becuase he seems not given more chances to score from otherplayers in the squad.

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