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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
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Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
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September 09, 2023, 09:07:28 PM
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Manchester United generally has a poor team. I know that the club expected much from Onana but if you take a close look at some of the goals he conceded it will be evident that the club has a very weak defense. When a club has a good team, even an average goalkeeper will excel. I don't expect the Cameroonian International to perform miracles. The club needs to fix so many things to make them competitive this season. Onana is a good keeper and is still adapting to the English league and he is still young which means he is a long-time goalkeeper.
Yes, actually Onana is still the best goalkeeper at Manchester United but the bad match last time was not entirely Onana fault but we can see how bad Manchester United's defense is which can always be broken through by their opponents so Onana as a goalkeeper has tried his best to maximize his performance but however, if the goalkeeper is very good but the defense is very bad the goalkeeper can't do anything except just accept inappropriate criticism from some media who ridiculously blame Onana.

From another perspective, all of this could be Erik Ten Hag's fault as a coach who does not have precision in defense which is currently a bad problem for Manchester United and some of the media or fans of this club have given very bad criticism to coach Ten Hag.
But from me personally, Erik Ten Hag has actually tried to provide the best strategy for his club, but currently Erik failure is not being able to bring in high quality players from the transfer market so there is a shortage of reliable players in Manchester United defense.

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September 09, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
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I'm not sure what would happen if Ten Hag were to fail to make it to the top four this season for Manchester United, but it would certainly put him under a lot of pressure. The Champions League results will likely put him under a lot of pressure if Manchester United lose and fail, but I still have confidence in his tactical abilities.

One thing that is sure to happen to him is that lots of pressure will definitely mount on him. Last season he managed to get the clubs first silverware after 3-4 season and then help guide the club back to the biggest European competition and this was what earned him the fans support. This season he is yet to get off to a great start but one thing is the season is still young and there many games to go but should things proceed to get ugly as it goes then I think United fans will asking for the departure of the manager.

If you ask me I would say unite can actually bounce back this season to go along away. The first thing to do will be to start getting points away from home especially against the top clubs. This has been a continuous problem since the arrival of Ten Hag to the theatre of dreams. He is currently on a very good run at home but the away record is just too poor and should it be adjusted to like that of the home record then it will be a big threat towards the other teams but should it remain like this then I doubt they will genuinely challenge for the league

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September 09, 2023, 09:16:34 PM
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People exaggerate Ten Hag pe digree and it is somewhat ridiculous and weird; Ten Hag is doing a good job yes, also ten hag is making terrible decisions by setting up media attack for footballers; First was with Ronaldo after he lost his baby; then a media attack round to chase of De Gea; Same was done to Harry Maguire; and now Ten hag has set up Jadon Sancho to the press for a new media attack; thats awful for a manager that keeps on playing underperforming Antony on the flanks.

The coach needs to fix up
Jadon Sancho trending because Erik Ten Hag made few statements concerning his incompetence action in league games, that's solely the beginning of the englishman frustration, Sancho didn't hang up there, rather he restated the fact that he tried his best to suit in the starting XI of Erik Ten Hag but it seems impossible for him, assuming th system is not favorable for him. Erik Ten Hag making crucial mistakes in Old Trafford which will definitely bounce back to the managerial functions in the club. We know how strictly discipline the coach is and he has no rooms for relenting efforts, always keeping his eyes on the brighter sides.
 

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September 09, 2023, 09:18:04 PM
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I think people still comparing all the coaches working on Manchester United with Alex Ferguson, the old and legendary coach of Macnsher United.
Teddy Sheringham said if Ferguson was working on Manchester United instead of Ten Hag there could be a better situation and we would not see the drama with Sancho.
Also, Ben Foster said if  Ferguson was still coaching Mancshter Unteid a palyer like Sancho would never be on the team after that behavior.
      


People exaggerate Ten Hag pe digree and it is somewhat ridiculous and weird; Ten Hag is doing a good job yes, also ten hag is making terrible decisions by setting up media attack for footballers; First was with Ronaldo after he lost his baby; then a media attack round to chase of De Gea; Same was done to Harry Maguire; and now Ten hag has set up Jadon Sancho to the press for a new media attack; thats awful for a manager that keeps on playing underperforming Antony on the flanks.

The coach needs to fix up
Erik Ten hang didn't start up in the Manchester United as a media person. He wasn't excited being on the camera. And if you can be honest, it was Ronaldo that first granted and interview to bash Erik and Manchester United.
As for the other players, you know how English media blows up some little issues and Manchester United is no different when they want to achieve their goals.
Have you forgotten that Erik gave Sancho some time ago for personal training and fitness and he went and returned with no much changes.
Well Sancho is an Engliah boy, likewise Maguire, that is why the attack on Erik Ten Hag.

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September 09, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
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I think people still comparing all the coaches working on Manchester United with Alex Ferguson, the old and legendary coach of Macnsher United.
Teddy Sheringham said if Ferguson was working on Manchester United instead of Ten Hag there could be a better situation and we would not see the drama with Sancho.
Also, Ben Foster said if  Ferguson was still coaching Mancshter Unteid a palyer like Sancho would never be on the team after that behavior.
      


People exaggerate Ten Hag pe digree and it is somewhat ridiculous and weird; Ten Hag is doing a good job yes, also ten hag is making terrible decisions by setting up media attack for footballers; First was with Ronaldo after he lost his baby; then a media attack round to chase of De Gea; Same was done to Harry Maguire; and now Ten hag has set up Jadon Sancho to the press for a new media attack; thats awful for a manager that keeps on playing underperforming Antony on the flanks.

The coach needs to fix up

He is a good coach but i think he still needs time to get use to the league. People are expecting big results from him because he is in a big club and they are right. He needs to keep his head cool and make some results and start winning titles for Man Utd soon
Ten Hag is a good Coach, but there are also many good coaches out there in same league that are facing same related challenges he is going through.
One reason I think Sir Alex prospered during his time at Old Trafford is that he was there a long time. He literally made the place his kingdom and the team was loyal and consistent even when some of the players played badly.

Ten Hag and all other good coaches in the premier league has to find the connection with the team. It works like telekinesis. He should stay longer also and maintain a consistent team balance.

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He is a good coach but i think he still needs time to get use to the league. People are expecting big results from him because he is in a big club and they are right. He needs to keep his head cool and make some results and start winning titles for Man Utd soon

There are always many trials and obstacles that a coach who trains a team as big as Manchester United will face. The simple reason is that Manchester United has a good history in the Premier League and Europe, of course whoever coaches them now must return that. It doesn't make sense to get Manchester United into top form that quickly, many coaches have failed to do that for them including Mourinho.

Ten Hag needs to be trusted for 2-3 seasons, but if in the end he fails then I think he should go with his failure. However, one thing that makes it difficult for Premier League teams to win the title is Pep Guardiola's dominance at Manchester City, which in turn has made 19 Premier League team coaches currently think hard about him.

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September 09, 2023, 09:30:49 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.
The problem of Manchester United is wholistic and not a goalkeeper fault. The Manchester United teamis not stabilised even right from preseason time. Last season that Manchester United ended 3rd in the English Premier League table, we saw that they had good preseason and after the first two matches that they performed poorly other matches were excellent.
Yes, you could say that Man United's performance hasn't really been the best. At the start of this season, Ten Hag's strategy doesn't seem to be working optimally, it can still be seen that the squad is still not very solid and consistent in competing and implementing its tactics well. Yes, Onana is a talented and good goalkeeper, I'm sure he is still good too. But what you say is true is that this is about the whole team. Even good goalkeepers won't be successful, especially if their back line isn't very strong. Ten Hag still has a lot of homework in the future to strengthen all lines so that they can compete again to become clubs in top standings.

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September 09, 2023, 09:34:26 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

Maybe it's just a settling-in problem but so far it's really hurting seeying him

A large part of Onana's disappointing performance so far can be attributed to an overall poor Manchester United defense. Aside from Shaw and Wan bissaka,  other members of the defense don't do much contributions. I know some United fans will call me out about Varane and Lindelof but let's be real. These guys have on/off performances - take Varane for example; some days, he is top tier. Other days, he is just helpless with his defensive duties.

Maybe the problem was not De gea all along but an overall week Manchester United defense. Allison in Liverpool is a good goalkeeper but he suffers a lot anytime Liverpool defense is weak.

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He is a good coach but i think he still needs time to get use to the league. People are expecting big results from him because he is in a big club and they are right. He needs to keep his head cool and make some results and start winning titles for Man Utd soon

Good coach yes; needs time to win the league - NO! Why? when ole was here at Manchester united; lots of individuals were pushing him to win the league title with mcfred, lingard and Daniel James in attack; but suddenly same fan base are begging for patience because ten hag is fan favorite ?

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Ten Hag is a good Coach, but there are also many good coaches out there in same league that are facing same related challenges he is going through.
One reason I think Sir Alex prospered during his time at Old Trafford is that he was there a long time. He literally made the place his kingdom and the team was loyal and consistent even when some of the players played badly.

Yes, Ten Hag is a good coach who is clearly overrated. Everyone mentions Sir Alex Ferguson alot; but that old man never went to interviews to speak bad about his players; Rooney drink driving, Rooney drunk to training, Cantona kung fu kicking a fan, Ferdinand drug escapees, Giggs problem, Morisson issues; neither of it made it to the press through the manager; he managed everyone and commanded respect.

Ten Hag going to the press to lie about Sancho is wrong; Sancho has disappeared from social media for over a year, and he returns to say his manager lied against him; and people still fault the player? the manager job includes player management.
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September 09, 2023, 09:45:52 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.


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September 09, 2023, 10:00:04 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.
The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.
The opportunity for Onana to keep a clean sheet must be supported by a strong defensive performance because if their defense is weak enough then Onana will experience bad luck in every match. Like what happened in the Arsenal vs Manchester United match where in that match Manchester United's defense was quite bad because several of their defenders were injured which made their defense line not very strong. So that when there is an attack from an opponent they are overwhelmed to block it. I'm sure Onana will be able to make a contribution to keeping the goal from conceding in every match, but he found it difficult to do so in the early matches of this season due to their poor defense this season. I'm sure criticism of him will not be too suitable to be thrown early on because he needs time to do his best like he did with Inter Milan last season.

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September 09, 2023, 10:01:10 PM
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Manchester United team is performing very well. Last season there were some great problems within the team. However, at the beginning of this season, the team has prepared itself brilliantly.

I don't understand your observations and why you said that Manchester United is playing very well, but to me, as a big club in England and the world playing in this type of form, I will not say that Manchester United is playing well. If Manchester United loses two and wins two games out of the four games they have played,especially loses to its competitors Tottenham and Arsenal, and struggles to win the two games against Wolves and Nottingham Forest, this is to say that Manchester United is not performing well because it is not up to the club standards. Manchester United is a club that needs to fight for the Premier League title and the Champions League, not a club that needs to be fighting for the top four.
and in week 5 Manchester United will host Brighton, and this will be a tough job for Erik Ten Hag because Brighton is not an easy opponent considering their game is quite good, especially in counter attacks and they are also in 6th position in the standings.

Brighton is currently in a good shape, and they always give Manchester United a tough time when they face them, thus Manchester United facing Brighton will undoubtedly not be an easy game for Manchester United. However, given that Manchester United is playing at home, perhaps they will be resilient and find a way to win the game. However, given their current form, I can't say that Manchester United can win the game against Brighton, who have won three of their first four games this season.

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September 09, 2023, 10:36:31 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.
No matter how good a goalkeeper is, If the defense of the club is poor, it will affect the goalkeeper because there is no way, he will act as a goalkeeper and a defender all at once. He will only perform the best he can as a goalkeeper and the defense will defend and stop goals from entering the goalpost.

This is the exact issue Manchester United is facing currently. Their defense is already bad and they want Onana to conduct magic in the goalpost so that goals won't enter(Which is impossible).
One of the reasons Onana was signed into Manchester United is because he has modern goalkeeping skills in him, to give long and short passes without fear. Even though he's a quality goalkeeper.

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September 09, 2023, 10:39:11 PM
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Brentford is one of the teams that has not lost at all so far and to be more precise, they have 1 win and 3 draws. In my opinion, this is a pretty good result and a draw can still result in at least 1 additional point in each match. Even Spurs, who have been very consistent this season, also struggled against Brentford at the start of the EPL match. In terms of players, Bryan Mbeumo is a player to be reckoned with because he has scored 4 goals so far for Brentford and his name is also on par with Erling Haaland and Evan Ferguson on the top scorer.

It is truly an achievement that they have not been defeated so far. Brentford surprised me in this regard, they started the season well. But they have not played against a very good team so far. Considering that they are playing against weak opponents, they will start to lose points in the coming weeks.
I hope they continue like this and surprise me, but I don't know if it would be right to expect too much from this team Smiley
I admit that Brentford at the start of this summer had a very good defense even if they couldn't win every game this club tried to use a defensive strategy to get 1 point and I think this is a very good strategy not to lose points so every game even against big clubs Brentford can at least end up drawing to add 1 point and I see this club is building high consistency.
But it not that easy because what you say is true if Brentford has not played against big clubs like Arsenal and Manchstr United or at least against Newcastle or Liverpool and if Brentford is able to survive without defeat against big clubs I can confirm that this club is a little more consistent this season and trying to chase the best place in the standings.

Brentford was playing against a weak team and the teams they were playing against them were not strong and they didn't have strong attacking lines to test their defensive lines seriously, otherwise, there could be another result for this team.
Now in the next game, they have to face Newcastle and there is the game in which they have their team tested.
    

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September 09, 2023, 10:46:04 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.
No matter how good a goalkeeper is, If the defense of the club is poor, it will affect the goalkeeper because there is no way, he will act as a goalkeeper and a defender all at once. He will only perform the best he can as a goalkeeper and the defense will defend and stop goals from entering the goalpost.

This is the exact issue Manchester United is facing currently. Their defense is already bad and they want Onana to conduct magic in the goalpost so that goals won't enter(Which is impossible).
One of the reasons Onana was signed into Manchester United is because he has modern goalkeeping skills in him, to give long and short passes without fear. Even though he's a quality goalkeeper.
The biggest problem that has occurred at Manchester United so far is the storm of injuries that has hit their players so that their performance has been quite chaotic at the start of this season. Moreover, there was news that their dressing room was not in a harmonious condition after there was news that Sancho and Erik had an argument on social media. Onana was not the cause of Manchester United defeat at the start of this season, but at least the picture of their game began to be in doubt at the start of this season.

I think De Gea can still be relied on by Manchester United this season but they didn't give him a contract extension which meant he had to leave the club he loves so much. For this season, I think Manchester United will find it difficult to compete with teams that have made better progress than them, such as Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

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September 09, 2023, 10:52:54 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.


I agree with your opinion about the reason behind the supposed disappointment from Manchester United fans in their new goalkeeper Andre Onana. After the media hype of how good of a goalkeeper that he is, Manchester United fans had thought that the Cameroon international will be saving almost every shot he'll be facing this season but doesn't know that football doesn't that way.
The Manchester United defense is totally nothing to write home about and that has caused them the numerous goals they've conceded this season. So the earlier the defense of Manchester United steps up their game  the better for everyone at the club

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September 09, 2023, 11:04:39 PM
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Jadon Sancho trending because Erik Ten Hag made few statements concerning his incompetence action in league games, that's solely the beginning of the englishman frustration, Sancho didn't hang up there, rather he restated the fact that he tried his best to suit in the starting XI of Erik Ten Hag but it seems impossible for him, assuming th system is not favorable for him. Erik Ten Hag making crucial mistakes in Old Trafford which will definitely bounce back to the managerial functions in the club. We know how strictly discipline the coach is and he has no rooms for relenting efforts, always keeping his eyes on the brighter sides.
 

I support the player because he is the right one; the guy Sancho took a break last year to look after his health and then the coach illegally announced that he went off to care for his Mental health; Sancho returned from his break and never got 5 straight starts. When Sancho plays, he plays 7 on Wednesday, 8 on Sunday, 11 next match day; then the 10 role; then the false 9 role; all within a month, with Werghost continuing to start despite awful performances, going to the press to lie about training fitness when Martial starts after returning from 3 month injury is very embarrassing.

I am very pleased Sancho spoke out; not every footballer can be Maguire that tolerated every insults
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September 09, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.



There is little to nothing that the goal keeper can do when the defense is poor the Manchester United 18 line was left losed all throughout the game and that give the opponent the chance to make source forceful goals attempt to the foal keeper who was helpless at that point.

So not matter how good the Manchester United goalkeeper is,  he will definitely not be able to stand the shots from an unchallenged striker since the Man U defences were already broken.
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September 09, 2023, 11:09:34 PM
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I was not expecting to see a player like Harry Kane talking like this about his last team Tottenham while he was playing there for years and they knew him as a legend in Tottenham, but after Kane joined Bayer Munich he totally changed his mind about Tottenham and whole Premier League.
He said in Tottenham it doesn't matter even if you lose some games because you didn't lose a lot there, but in a team like Bayern Munich they always want you to win and even if you wi bad results the players are unhappy.
I was not expecting to see Harry Kane saying these about Tottenham at all.
    

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September 09, 2023, 11:11:51 PM
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Brentford was playing against a weak team and the teams they were playing against them were not strong and they didn't have strong attacking lines to test their defensive lines seriously, otherwise, there could be another result for this team.
Now in the next game, they have to face Newcastle and there is the game in which they have their team tested.
The time for brentford to farm the points are almost coming to its end. The club will face newcastle and then there will be many hard games to come after that match. The mentality will be fully tested once brentford will face strong teams in a row.
I saw that from the schedule if november and december will have become the hardest time for brentford. The hardest time for Brentford will test the stamina of its players.
Newcstle's performance has been plunging so hard but brentford needs to anticipate it as well. I meant look at how newcastle can still give tough game against some top clubs in EPL.

Brentford potentially stuck in the same place at the end of this year.  

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