Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

[Altryist]

Arsenal's attack isn't quite as sharp as City's - Pep's years of tactical genius show. Arteta's getting there, but he's not at Guardiola's level yet. You're spot on about Nketiah and Vieira - they're not stepping up when it matters. Arsenal's solid at the back and in midfield, but they're missing that killer instinct up front. We need those clinical finishers who can change the game in a heartbeat

But listen, a 20-goal striker isn't the only solution. Saka's our top scorer, but look how many of those goals are penalties. Arsenal has a problem creating chances from open play. We need to tell Edu and Arteta to build a system that consistently produces goal scorers, not just buy one off the shelf

As for City, losing Alvarez is a blow, but Guardiola's a master adapter. He'll find a way to make it work. This season is going to be a tactical battle between the managers

Arsenal's attack at the end of the season, in my opinion, looked even more confident than City's, but the main thing is not episodic bursts of good play, but stability, this is what the result depends on, and it seems to me that it is very difficult to compete with City in this regard. City planned to get Rodrigo from Real to replace Alvarez, but I think that Alvarez's absence is not critical, he was not a key player in Guardiola's team, and by the way, this was one of the main reasons for his departure. Yes, he is an important substitute player, but City has someone to play in attack without him. Rodrigo, by the way, doesn't want to leave Real, so this won't happen.

[Unsoldier]

For this coming season, I did not see Manchester United competing with Manchester City. Although Manchester United can make the top four, but the current squad and the coach we have now cannot make us compete favourably with Manchester City.

I like the honesty in your own submission. Whatever will make Manchester United step up to the position of Manchester City in this coming season will take a great grit from the Man U team. Guardiola is still the manager of Manchester City and it doesn't seem like they're willing to perform less than they did were in the last season. Meaning Guardiola will recruit more talented players. Another advantage for Manchester City right now is that they have a manager who's committed to his job and also ready to lead from the front line. He has already understood the club and it's management and knows how to manage them the best.

I think the performance of the two teams will determine how far they will go in the league next season but for the casecof Manchester United competing with Manchester City, it takes good players, good team work and a total brilliance from the tesm to be able to withstand a team like Manchester City who has been outstanding in their performance over the years winning the league back to back and still very good in performance with a great coach and full squad. Pep Guardiola has already started recruiting some players for the next season but even with his current players he would still be stronger contender in the league that's if they don't have injury crisis next season.

Manchester City had an uncertain pre-season due to the participation of the leaders in the Euros and Copa America, but Erling Holland is in great shape and ready to score. At the same time, Manchester United had good results in the pre-season tournaments, but the team faced serious problems: defenders Maguire, Evans and Lindelöf are injured, as well as attacking leader Højlund. Given these problems in defense, it will be extremely difficult to contain Holland, so I bet on Manchester City to win.

[legendbtc]

Liverpool fans must be very worried. Because Liverpool is still quiet in this summer transfer window. But it has emerged that Liverpool have been dealt a blow in their pursuit of Maximilian Beier, with the club set to miss out on signing Hoffenheim striker Maximilian Beier in the summer transfer window. The 21-year-old has rejected interest from Liverpool to stay in the Bundesliga and is set to move to Borussia Dortmund.
I don't understand why Maximilian Beier chose the Bundesliga instead of the top league Premier League. Meanwhile, Liverpool is a much bigger team than Borussia Dortmund. Perhaps the Champions League runner-up title attracted him more.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29763742/liverpool-maximilian-beier-transfer-zubimendi/#:~:text=LIVERPOOL%20are%20set%20to%20miss,Borussia%20Dortmund%20on%20the%20cards.&text=Beier%20has%20been%20a%20Premier,breakout%20season%20in%202023%2D24.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Dominic Ayodele Solanke-Mitchell  has been very impressive in the last campaign of the EPL and making a move out from Bournemouth would be something to say he's making a positive step to greatness, that's if he leaves Bournemouth since he has been one of their key striker who got 19 goals in 38 games with 3 assist, to me he has been impressive and I expect more from him next season. Before the season begins I think if Dominic Solanke would be leaving the side between Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal I think the Gunners should be a better place rather than going to Tottenham, we know the Spurs side are still looking for a striker to replace Kane but it hasn't been easy and Son has been trying to get things work out for the team but he needs an extra hand to make it work for Spurs. Which team is best for the man Dominic Solanke is it Arsenal or Tottenham? We know Arsenal are second best to get the league title than Tottenham, so is the Gunners the right team to give Solanke the EPL title?

Dominic Ayodele Solanke is a good striker, he has played for so many teams including Chelsea and Liverpool, his professional career has been a good one because he doesn't have the opportunity to showcase his talent in big teams, but for him to be able to score 19 goals for Bournemouth last season, it clearly shows that he is a great striker that can score more goals when he have the opportunity in big teams that will provide him with accurate passes in the right position.

I don't think Arsenal will come for him because Arsenal has put our main target on Osimhen, and Viktor Gyökeres of Sporting CP as our top targets, if we couldn't get any of these strikers, we would rather start the season with Havertz, Gabriel Jesus, and Nketiah than signing him because they are better than him; then Arsenal will consider looking for a striker during the January transfer window.

Tottenham will be a better place for him because I don't know the work of Richalson who is always not scoring goals as expected, Solanke can be better than him and can help the team to bring them back to title chase in the Premier League.

I think for all the years he played for the other clubs last season was the best I have seen of the man Solanke, if not for lack of consistency he would have gotten the Golden Boot but he did his best with those number of goals.
I don't think Arsenal can get Osimhen because the Gunners don't seem serious about getting the Nigeria striker, it is either the Sporting CP attacker they are eying at the moment and if they don't get this guys then they should show more interest in Solanke after all Tottenham Hotspur can't give him champions league football so I guess the Gunners have the open opportunity to get him.
To me I can't settle for Jesus and Kai even if Havertz has been brilliant but we shouldn't rely much on him. Is hard to say what will happen next season because Richarlison can become a better player than he is last season, we know he doesn't have that luck of getting goals but every striker will have to sit up to keep their place in their team if not you see guys who are suppose to start are the ones sitting on the bench, and you'd agree with me that Richarlison always comes in as a sub so he can do something different next season.

[Liliana1304]

Man UTD will be playing Man City tomorrow in the community shield and  this will be the third time the two sides are meeting and of the three times they've met, Man UTD have won two of them. Bookies are pitting Man City as favorites to win which is not a surprise because Pep Guardiola's side are strong and formidable but this is football and anything can happen. This was the same thing that happened during the FA cup final when no one, absolutely no one expected Man UTD to even get a goal from that game but it happened that they were able to silence the chants of the City fans and douse their expectations when they took the cup.

From how things have been, Man UTD tend to get more favor in games like this and since statistics show they have been more frequent at carrying it than City, maybe they will be looking to take it the third time? We know Pep Guardiola is highly competitive but since the community shield is not as important as the FA cup, I doubt he'd put in much work, but who knows, maybe they'd try to win it just to spite Man UTD, who knows?

[mamesso]

Arsenal's attack isn't quite as sharp as City's - Pep's years of tactical genius show. Arteta's getting there, but he's not at Guardiola's level yet. You're spot on about Nketiah and Vieira - they're not stepping up when it matters. Arsenal's solid at the back and in midfield, but they're missing that killer instinct up front. We need those clinical finishers who can change the game in a heartbeat

But listen, a 20-goal striker isn't the only solution. Saka's our top scorer, but look how many of those goals are penalties. Arsenal has a problem creating chances from open play. We need to tell Edu and Arteta to build a system that consistently produces goal scorers, not just buy one off the shelf

There are three things that Guardiola has that Arteta has not been able to match, ^[1] Guardiola genius exceeds Arteta abilities, ^[2] he also handles a bigger team than Arsenal which Arteta is currently handling, ^[3] the club that Guardiola handles has more money than Arsenal. This advantage allows Guardiola to easily bring in quality players to add to his attack.

Arsenal's failure so far has always been in the attack line which has not been able to maintain its sharpness, after they managed to surpass Manchester City points, they have always failed to maintain their performance. Arsenal defence also needs to improve, an unexpected defeat like last season must be avoided if they are to win the EPL trophy. Arteta is almost able to make Arsenal break Manchester City dominance, but he needs to maintain Arsenal toughness from the start of the season until the end of the season.

[Palakka]

Arsenal's attack isn't quite as sharp as City's - Pep's years of tactical genius show. Arteta's getting there, but he's not at Guardiola's level yet. You're spot on about Nketiah and Vieira - they're not stepping up when it matters. Arsenal's solid at the back and in midfield, but they're missing that killer instinct up front. We need those clinical finishers who can change the game in a heartbeat

But listen, a 20-goal striker isn't the only solution. Saka's our top scorer, but look how many of those goals are penalties. Arsenal has a problem creating chances from open play. We need to tell Edu and Arteta to build a system that consistently produces goal scorers, not just buy one off the shelf

As for City, losing Alvarez is a blow, but Guardiola's a master adapter. He'll find a way to make it work. This season is going to be a tactical battle between the managers

Arsenal's attack at the end of the season, in my opinion, looked even more confident than City's, but the main thing is not episodic bursts of good play, but stability, this is what the result depends on, and it seems to me that it is very difficult to compete with City in this regard. City planned to get Rodrigo from Real to replace Alvarez, but I think that Alvarez's absence is not critical, he was not a key player in Guardiola's team, and by the way, this was one of the main reasons for his departure. Yes, he is an important substitute player, but City has someone to play in attack without him. Rodrigo, by the way, doesn't want to leave Real, so this won't happen.

Currently both teams deserve to be favorites as challengers for the title next season, even though Arsenal performance has improved drastically in the last few years, we have to admit that Manchester City is still much better and more complex in every line compared to the squad that Arsenal have today, Arsenal last season could be said to be a team that had very high goal productivity but we cannot deny that they are still below Manchester City and we can see that Manchester City has 5 more goals than Arsenal, apart from that the main factor that makes Manchester City attack What's better is the presence of Haalaand in their squad who can continue to be a mainstay in the front line, in contrast to Arsenal who don't have a center striker they can rely on all this time, so to be able to compete with Manchester City, Arsenal should now be able to recruit a center striker who can Become a competitor for Haalaand next season.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Liverpool fans must be very worried. Because Liverpool is still quiet in this summer transfer window. But it has emerged that Liverpool have been dealt a blow in their pursuit of Maximilian Beier, with the club set to miss out on signing Hoffenheim striker Maximilian Beier in the summer transfer window. The 21-year-old has rejected interest from Liverpool to stay in the Bundesliga and is set to move to Borussia Dortmund.
I don't understand why Maximilian Beier chose the Bundesliga instead of the top league Premier League. Meanwhile, Liverpool is a much bigger team than Borussia Dortmund. Perhaps the Champions League runner-up title attracted him more.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29763742/liverpool-maximilian-beier-transfer-zubimendi/#:~:text=LIVERPOOL%20are%20set%20to%20miss,Borussia%20Dortmund%20on%20the%20cards.&text=Beier%20has%20been%20a%20Premier,breakout%20season%20in%202023%2D24.

I remember reading about this somewhere, but I was too in a hurry and didn't quite pay attention to grab the core details, but all the same, what I have to say is that it's his life and decision, different people have different choices, and sometimes, we possibly can or do come across some people with what seems to us like odd choices, and this is because people see things differently.

We never can really understand why the young player(striker) rejected Liverpool's offer and choose to remain in the Bundesliga, only have a personal chat with him, perhaps, can one get to find out why he made that decision, but then, like I said before, is his life, and choices are his too.

[Majestic-milf]

I remember reading about this somewhere, but I was too in a hurry and didn't quite pay attention to grab the core details, but all the same, what I have to say is that it's his life and decision, different people have different choices, and sometimes, we possibly can or do come across some people with what seems to us like odd choices, and this is because people see things differently.

We never can really understand why the young player(striker) rejected Liverpool's offer and choose to remain in the Bundesliga, only have a personal chat with him, perhaps, can one get to find out why he made that decision, but then, like I said before, is his life, and choices are his too.

Sometimes players reject a move to a club because they feel they might not get enough playing time. In the case of Liverpool, he feels he'd be pressured to meet up with the likes of Coady Gkapo, Salah, Darwin Nunez and the rest so I guess going to Dortmund seems like a fair enough place for him and like you said, it's the player's choice.

[Rockstarguy]

Currently both teams deserve to be favorites as challengers for the title next season, even though Arsenal performance has improved drastically in the last few years, we have to admit that Manchester City is still much better and more complex in every line compared to the squad that Arsenal have today, Arsenal last season could be said to be a team that had very high goal productivity but we cannot deny that they are still below Manchester City and we can see that Manchester City has 5 more goals than Arsenal, apart from that the main factor that makes Manchester City attack What's better is the presence of Haalaand in their squad who can continue to be a mainstay in the front line, in contrast to Arsenal who don't have a center striker they can rely on all this time, so to be able to compete with Manchester City, Arsenal should now be able to recruit a center striker who can Become a competitor for Haalaand next season.

Manchester City having a player like Haaland is one of the reasons why Manchester City is more superior than arsenal because Haalaand is a player that scores goals for Manchester City consistently. Arsenal struggle to meet up with the standard of Manchester City because they do not have a player like Haaland.  I know Arsenal have done very well in their performance in two seasons now, but for me i don't think the quality they have can be matched with what Manchester City have.

I just hope with the experience from the previous season it can make a good difference this season.  One of the advantage of Manchester City is the experience they have in both players and the coach.  

[punk.zink]

Man UTD will be playing Man City tomorrow in the community shield and  this will be the third time the two sides are meeting and of the three times they've met, Man UTD have won two of them. Bookies are pitting Man City as favorites to win which is not a surprise because Pep Guardiola's side are strong and formidable but this is football and anything can happen. This was the same thing that happened during the FA cup final when no one, absolutely no one expected Man UTD to even get a goal from that game but it happened that they were able to silence the chants of the City fans and douse their expectations when they took the cup.

From how things have been, Man UTD tend to get more favor in games like this and since statistics show they have been more frequent at carrying it than City, maybe they will be looking to take it the third time? We know Pep Guardiola is highly competitive but since the community shield is not as important as the FA cup, I doubt he'd put in much work, but who knows, maybe they'd try to win it just to spite Man UTD, who knows?

I think both Man United and Man City will not take the match lightly. Moreover, the rivalry between the two teams is very strong, so a victory over their rivals will give them pride. Man City is probably better prepared for this match than Man United because Man United is again facing the problems that plagued them last season, that is an injury crisis. It is quite unfortunate that Man United cannot play with their best squad. Leny Yoro and Rasmus Hojlund will definitely not take part, while, Harry Maguire and Luke Shaw are still unsure whether they will be able to play in this game.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I remember reading about this somewhere, but I was too in a hurry and didn't quite pay attention to grab the core details, but all the same, what I have to say is that it's his life and decision, different people have different choices, and sometimes, we possibly can or do come across some people with what seems to us like odd choices, and this is because people see things differently.

We never can really understand why the young player(striker) rejected Liverpool's offer and choose to remain in the Bundesliga, only have a personal chat with him, perhaps, can one get to find out why he made that decision, but then, like I said before, is his life, and choices are his too.

Sometimes players reject a move to a club because they feel they might not get enough playing time. In the case of Liverpool, he feels he'd be pressured to meet up with the likes of Coady Gkapo, Salah, Darwin Nunez and the rest so I guess going to Dortmund seems like a fair enough place for him and like you said, it's the player's choice.

It only looks like Liverpool has already made players and for the new player to join he has to wait for the right opportunity given to him which many won't want, they want that regular playing time and I feel that was why he didn't go for Liverpool and I feel player like Mo Salah need to leave for others to take the spot, age is not in his side and he's an injury prone player. With how the club is handling the pressure of getting a new player I don't think they're ready to add any player to the squad and is something the fans don't want to see, the fans want their team to get involved in the market too. Since they can't get this player who chooses Dortmund over the Reds it only means that Liverpool can't give him what he wants (playing time) with the bucket loads of players.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Buying a lot of new players does not mean becoming better, ten Hag did it before, in the previous off-season they also bought a lot of new players, but despite this they had an even worse season. New players need time to adapt, to play with the team, all this takes time, and competitors will get ahead. I think that nothing will change for Manchester United, their main goal at the end of the season will be to get into the top 4, but this may not be easy, because there are teams that are progressing better like Aston Villa, which you mentioned, and Tottenham, Newcastle and Manchester United will fight for the Europa League, that's what I think.

Everything works and to hand. If a team is buying new players without tactics and a good head coach, they will hardly see the team's improvement because, in the end, the new players will adopt the team's patterns of playing. But with a good head coach, bringing new players always adds value to the team. If they always want improvement, they will surely bring in new players to help strengthen the performance of the team. If any team refuses to add more new players every season, they will hardly see improvement because, no matter what, every season a good head coach must discover the weak players in the team. So, they need to replace them in the team to not drop the value and performance of the team.

As for me, the only teams I can predict their performance for now are Manchester City and Arsenal. With the set of players these two have and the way I see their players even playing in this preseason, there is a higher probability that these two teams will be the fighters for next season's Premier League. From observation of other teams, I can't really say much about their performances because I believe with the players they also have, they will come along the line and fight for the trophy. Aston Villa surprised us last season with their great performances, so next season we are also expecting a new surprise from another team again.

[hahay]

Currently both teams deserve to be favorites as challengers for the title next season, even though Arsenal performance has improved drastically in the last few years, we have to admit that Manchester City is still much better and more complex in every line compared to the squad that Arsenal have today, Arsenal last season could be said to be a team that had very high goal productivity but we cannot deny that they are still below Manchester City and we can see that Manchester City has 5 more goals than Arsenal, apart from that the main factor that makes Manchester City attack What's better is the presence of Haalaand in their squad who can continue to be a mainstay in the front line, in contrast to Arsenal who don't have a center striker they can rely on all this time, so to be able to compete with Manchester City, Arsenal should now be able to recruit a center striker who can Become a competitor for Haalaand next season.

Manchester City having a player like Haaland is one of the reasons why Manchester City is more superior than arsenal because Haalaand is a player that scores goals for Manchester City consistently. Arsenal struggle to meet up with the standard of Manchester City because they do not have a player like Haaland.  I know Arsenal have done very well in their performance in two seasons now, but for me i don't think the quality they have can be matched with what Manchester City have.

I just hope with the experience from the previous season it can make a good difference this season.  One of the advantage of Manchester City is the experience they have in both players and the coach.  

I cannot conclude that Manchester City's greatness is only about Haaland although indeed, I also admit that Haaland is very productive even though Haaland's productivity only occurs in the Premier League. But at least, the main factor Manchester City still managed to be consistent with good performance so far because of a great coach. Because anyway, when Pep Guardiola gets full support from the board and the team as a whole, then of course Pep Guardiola will really succeed in making the team impressive too.

Therefore, I can only assume that the factor of Pep Guardiola is still the most important factor about the success of Manchester City so far. After all, if for example Pep Guardiola leaves then I am sure, Manchester City will not always have a good chance like in the Pep Guardiola era. Thus, because Manchester City also still managed to keep Pep Guardiola, then whatever the composition of the squad Manchester City has, then I will still believe Manchester City will remain fine.

[BITCOIN4X]

~Snip

Arsenal's attack at the end of the season, in my opinion, looked even more confident than City's, but the main thing is not episodic bursts of good play, but stability, this is what the result depends on, and it seems to me that it is very difficult to compete with City in this regard. City planned to get Rodrigo from Real to replace Alvarez, but I think that Alvarez's absence is not critical, he was not a key player in Guardiola's team, and by the way, this was one of the main reasons for his departure. Yes, he is an important substitute player, but City has someone to play in attack without him. Rodrigo, by the way, doesn't want to leave Real, so this won't happen.

Rodrygo may realize that Manchester City is not his dream team, but that doesn't mean he won't do well at Manchester City. Pep Guardiola certainly has players he wants to bring in to replace Alvarez, but he will not force players who don't want to play for them. Rodrygo is not suitable for Manchester City, so Pep Guardiola will likely find an alternative.

There are many alternatives available on the market if Pep Guardiola wants to bring in a replacement for Alvarez, but in my opinion Manchester City actually needs a good midfielder to anticipate the injury-prone De Bruyne. Bernardo Silva is also not as good as he was a few seasons ago, so Pep must anticipate that as soon as possible.

[X-ray]

Chelsea transfer 20 million euros, add seventh goalkeeper to goalkeeping guild'

Chelsea are beginning to make me look like an not ready for this season, I will say they really make use of this transfer window more than any other English team, I am beginning to afraid for them if they didn't make any positive results this season

Man, not again, and this is crazy. Could someone tell me how much money Chelsea spent on goalkeepers now? It's very obvious this team is not even working to be a title contender, and this is what Todd wanted. I guess Chelsea is having a plan to flip talents for profit. It's risky. But, it makes sense since they spent $100 million. They got 5 talents, compared to when they only bought 1 talent for the same amount. The ratio for Chelsea to lose money can be minimized, but this is crazy, you know. But this seems to me that if i think Chelsea is becoming a football talent management agency.

It's totally different from when Abramovich was still there. Chelsea had the ambition to be a top European football team then. But, it's all vanished under a new owner.

[Sim_card]

Arsenal's attack isn't quite as sharp as City's - Pep's years of tactical genius show. Arteta's getting there, but he's not at Guardiola's level yet. You're spot on about Nketiah and Vieira - they're not stepping up when it matters. Arsenal's solid at the back and in midfield, but they're missing that killer instinct up front. We need those clinical finishers who can change the game in a heartbeat

But listen, a 20-goal striker isn't the only solution. Saka's our top scorer, but look how many of those goals are penalties. Arsenal has a problem creating chances from open play. We need to tell Edu and Arteta to build a system that consistently produces goal scorers, not just buy one off the shelf

As for City, losing Alvarez is a blow, but Guardiola's a master adapter. He'll find a way to make it work. This season is going to be a tactical battle between the managers

Arsenal's attack at the end of the season, in my opinion, looked even more confident than City's, but the main thing is not episodic bursts of good play, but stability, this is what the result depends on, and it seems to me that it is very difficult to compete with City in this regard. City planned to get Rodrigo from Real to replace Alvarez, but I think that Alvarez's absence is not critical, he was not a key player in Guardiola's team, and by the way, this was one of the main reasons for his departure. Yes, he is an important substitute player, but City has someone to play in attack without him. Rodrigo, by the way, doesn't want to leave Real, so this won't happen.

I believe that was why Alvarez also left City because he is a second choice player and due to his quality and potentials he deserves to be among the first eleven of any club he is playing in. His departure will not affect City and since a replacement would be made that will not be any problem. Alvarez in Atletico will have the chance and opportunity to score as many goals as he likes since he is a starter there and that is what he wants and not being a sub-player.

[aylabadia05]

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Currently both teams deserve to be favorites as challengers for the title next season, even though Arsenal performance has improved drastically in the last few years, we have to admit that Manchester City is still much better and more complex in every line compared to the squad that Arsenal have today, Arsenal last season could be said to be a team that had very high goal productivity but we cannot deny that they are still below Manchester City and we can see that Manchester City has 5 more goals than Arsenal, apart from that the main factor that makes Manchester City attack What's better is the presence of Haalaand in their squad who can continue to be a mainstay in the front line, in contrast to Arsenal who don't have a center striker they can rely on all this time, so to be able to compete with Manchester City, Arsenal should now be able to recruit a center striker who can Become a competitor for Haalaand next season.

Manchester City's success in maintaining its dominance is not only due to players, but Manchester City is successful because of its coach.
Pep Guardiola and Arteta are very different, but the two worked together at Manchester City before Arteta coached Arsenal. Guardiola is much more experienced and better than Arteta, but that doesn't mean Artata always fails to provide competition and win titles for Arsenal.

Arsenal and several other teams are expected to be able to stop Manchester City's dominance next season. It is absolutely impossible to let Manchester City make a long history by winning 5 titles in 5 consecutive seasons, so Arsenal must try harder next season.

[Pandorak]

[....]

Speaking of teams to win the league title and you included Man UTD (very laughable), Chelsea and even Tottenham? What is the assurance that Chelsea can even make it to the top 4 position of the log come next season? I don't want to say much about Tottenham Hotspur because we hardly see much from them and is like the pre-season games doesn't concern them in any way to rate their performance but I can say they may finish outside the top 4 like 5th or 6th but not Chelsea who have been all over the news with their poor defense and their poor selection of players in the transfer market. [...]

I'm not saying that's my opinion, that's all i got from the odds data at the bookies. Even with Manchester City & Liverpool, should we underestimate other teams? that doesn't make sense. Therefore we are still looking at their opportunities in the bookies, in my post i sort them from most favorite to least.

Didn't you see how Bayer Leverkusen were able to get their first domestic league title, they actually did it. So let's not underestimate other teams, it could be that next season Manchester United or Chelsea win the title, who knows?