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September 01, 2024, 11:11:06 PM |
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As for Manchester United, I still see the same problem as last season, they just circle the ball around their own box without moving it forward, they simply were just playing like amateurs Today. Casemiro had the worst game of his career today and deserved to actually go out in the first half, no doubt.
Exactly, their finishing was very bad, because of that they only exceled in ball possession, but very few shots towards the goal. Yes, it is because their attacking lines are that bad. Source: Man Utd 0-3 LiverpoolNot only that, they conceded 3 goals even though they dominated the ball. Their defense is also very bad. Even based on these statistics, losing control in their defense line is very high. Homework for Ten Hag, their front line and defense are still very bad.
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September 02, 2024, 01:48:56 AM |
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Mohamed salah is the man of the match, indeed Liverpool's winning today against Manchester United was not a surprising one though it has been a rivals for both at every point of their meetings. However, Liverpool became victorious by 0:3 Manchester United at home making it a two defeats from two previous matches as they lost by 2 goals to 1 against Brighton last week.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F91Zq5.jpeg&t=665&c=ENHQQBGAiwbfiA) Source: https://bola.kompas.com/read/2024/09/02/00564278/mo-salah-menggila-liverpool-diminta-perpanjang-kontrak-sang-egyptian-king#google_vignetteIt is undeniable that M. Salah is a great player and of course the assist he made was certainly very good and of course made Diaz take advantage of it beautifully which of course became a goal for Liverpool, of course in this match Diaz and M. Salah were really great and of course Liverpool's victory against Manchester United with a score of 3-0 is certainly very good because of course now Arne Slot's troops have pocketed 9 points and finished in 2nd place in the standings. Yes, of course, 2 consecutive defeats for Manchester United, of course this is very concerning because it seems that Manchester United's strength is currently not good and of course there has been no progress and of course if Ten Hag does not improve Manchester United's performance, of course this will potentially make Manchester United's ranking worse than last season. But of course now Arne Slot can be said to have succeeded in becoming a good coach and now it seems that Arne Slot will definitely try to make Liverpool a champion this season because of course he wants to grant the request of Liverpool fans because of course Liverpool has not been an EPL champion for a long time. and now of course with the good achievements that Liverpool has achieved at the beginning of this season, of course it will make Liverpool confident to be able to compete with Manchester City for the championship title.
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September 02, 2024, 02:41:45 AM |
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It is undeniable that M. Salah is a great player and of course the assist he made was certainly very good and of course made Diaz take advantage of it beautifully which of course became a goal for Liverpool, of course in this match Diaz and M. Salah were really great and of course Liverpool's victory against Manchester United with a score of 3-0 is certainly very good because of course now Arne Slot's troops have pocketed 9 points and finished in 2nd place in the standings.
Manchester United completely lost control in midfield and gave so many space for Liverpool. With a big defeat at home, and one defeat under Brighton, Manchester United quickly feel that they are nearly in a crisis even the season just started. The last season is not good for them and Ten Hag was under pressure of a fire but he fortunately kept his job. This season, if he can not improve Manchester United performances and they continue to stay beyond top four at the end, no other chance for Ten Hag to be there. He will even have risk of being sacked around Christmast/ New year tourmalet in Premier League. But of course now Arne Slot can be said to have succeeded in becoming a good coach and now it seems that Arne Slot will definitely try to make Liverpool a champion this season because of course he wants to grant the request of Liverpool fans because of course Liverpool has not been an EPL champion for a long time.
Arne Slot has good start with Liverpool but to win Premier League when Manchester City have been dominating it recent seasons, is not easy. There is another competitive team, Arsenal, that are ready to beat Manchester City in this season. Liverpool and Slot will have to resolve match by match, aim at maximize results and after 10 to 15 matches, they can have better overview on their competitiveness for the title.
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September 02, 2024, 02:55:49 AM |
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Arne Slot has good start with Liverpool but to win Premier League when Manchester City have been dominating it recent seasons, is not easy. There is another competitive team, Arsenal, that are ready to beat Manchester City in this season. Liverpool and Slot will have to resolve match by match, aim at maximize results and after 10 to 15 matches, they can have better overview on their competitiveness for the title.
The victory over Manchester United last night make Liverpool become one of two Premier League team after Manchester City as the 100% winning trend team last three consecutives matches. Liverpool have more better performance after three consecutives winning without conceded any one goal yet and scoring 7 goals of 3 matches. Arne Slot become the debut manager teams in Premier League success create the new record with three consecutives winning without conceded goals yet. Unbelievable with Liverpool performance under Arne Slot era because they are not active on winter transfer window but success three consecutives winning matches.
Bit problem with upcoming match not only for Liverpool but also for all premier league team with international break out one week, the premier league games week 4 will play on two weeks later and wish not any players return back from national team with injury because huge problem near future will play in UEFA Champion League.
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September 02, 2024, 03:20:08 AM |
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~Snip~
The victory over Manchester United last night make Liverpool become one of two Premier League team after Manchester City as the 100% winning trend team last three consecutives matches. Liverpool have more better performance after three consecutives winning without conceded any one goal yet and scoring 7 goals of 3 matches. Arne Slot become the debut manager teams in Premier League success create the new record with three consecutives winning without conceded goals yet. Unbelievable with Liverpool performance under Arne Slot era because they are not active on winter transfer window but success three consecutives winning matches.
Bit problem with upcoming match not only for Liverpool but also for all premier league team with international break out one week, the premier league games week 4 will play on two weeks later and wish not any players return back from national team with injury because huge problem near future will play in UEFA Champion League. It was never imagined that Liverpool would be able to win by more than two goals at Manchester United headquarters and three consecutive wins under the new coach. Liverpool performance at the start of this season was extraordinary, full points from three matches ended up being collected perfectly which put them just below Manchester City. Now, besides Arsenal, Liverpool will be a new rival for Manchester City in the title hunt. Liverpool's game under Arne Slot is very good, at least there are no weaknesses in the squad. The international break is a bit of a problem for teams that are in top form, especially if a player is called up to play for their country, the Fifa virus often occurs after the international break is over, hopefully the players competing in the EPL will not experience any problems during the break.
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September 02, 2024, 04:16:01 AM |
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I won't forget this Chelsea who missed all the chances today and ruined my parlay. If I hadn't made a bet, Palmer probably would've made a hat-trick and Chelsea would've scored 5 goals. Thanks to me, they lost points. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In the same week that Arsenal lost points, Tottenham and Manchester United also lost. This week was beneficial for Manchester City and Liverpool. There are some good games after the international break, it will be a tough fixture for Arsenal. I hope the players who didn't go to the national team will rest well and play good games when they come back. In week 3 of the matches that were quite disappointing for me, there were only two matches, namely Chelsea and Arsenal. For other matches, almost everything went as expected. Chelsea really wasted too many opportunities that they got. And their Arsenal had bad luck because they lost players due to red cards. If Arsenal play with 11 players then I am sure they will score at least 2 goals. Meanwhile, Chelsea, as usual, is always inconsistent and continues to change in every match. But I think as hosts they can win with a narrow score. But well they can't do it. It seems that several players from each club from the EPL will join their respective national teams to compete in the National League. All I hope is that they can return to the club unscathed. Because the biggest worry at every international break is players returning injured.
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September 02, 2024, 04:44:43 AM |
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Mohamed salah is the man of the match, indeed Liverpool's winning today against Manchester United was not a surprising one though it has been a rivals for both at every point of their meetings. However, Liverpool became victorious by 0:3 Manchester United at home making it a two defeats from two previous matches as they lost by 2 goals to 1 against Brighton last week.
Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspur was another rival match today thou the both teams performance very well but Newcastle stood very strong on their ground as Alexander izak made it through for Newcastle United to 2:1 victory against Tottenham Hotspur.
Salah contributed two assists against Manchester United. He is an elite playmaker, and getting even better from day to day. He is creating lots of quality chances than anyone else in the league. And he should have had a third assist today but tried to score instead of setting up Jota for a tap-in. But, beside Salah, we must appreciate Gravenberch and Diaz for their consistency. Diaz had a rough start. But, things are getting better for him in the mid-game; he scored two goals and became MOTM. And Gravenberch, with his amazing performance, played like he was in his prime form. He is having. Interceptions, tackles , winning balls, and smooth passing. All in all, Salah, Grav, and Diaz deserve to be POTM in this game.
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September 02, 2024, 05:09:58 AM |
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Exactly, their finishing was very bad, because of that they only exceled in ball possession, but very few shots towards the goal. Yes, it is because their attacking lines are that bad.
I think it's not just the finishing that looks worse where almost all of Manchester United's positions are not performing well. The goal happened because of a mistake in the midfield where Casimero made a mistake and the defenders also didn't try to cover the empty position before Liverpool players scored. Superior in terms of possession of the ball is not a reference because they even had difficulty scoring goals or suppressing Liverpool's attacks. Not only that, they conceded 3 goals even though they dominated the ball. Their defense is also very bad. Even based on these statistics, losing control in their defense line is very high. Homework for Ten Hag, their front line and defense are still very bad.
Erik Ten Hak must also give the opportunity to play to other goalkeepers because I see Onana has no instinct at all in making saves, especially in this match which conceded three goals. This is a very unwanted defeat and they have already dropped some points in the Premier League, if this is not evaluated then I think Manchester United will find it increasingly difficult to keep up with the game of other teams.
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September 02, 2024, 05:29:09 AM |
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I think it's not just the finishing that looks worse where almost all of Manchester United's positions are not performing well. The goal happened because of a mistake in the midfield where Casimero made a mistake and the defenders also didn't try to cover the empty position before Liverpool players scored. Superior in terms of possession of the ball is not a reference because they even had difficulty scoring goals or suppressing Liverpool's attacks.
Yeah Zirkzee already tried to score a goal, but come on, he's fighting against Becker, one of great goalkeepers in the world. It's completely different for Liverpool's strikers who fight against Onana, that's why they can score 3 goals. Shots on target by Liverpool is 3, it means Onana saves zero in this match. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Erik Ten Hak must also give the opportunity to play to other goalkeepers because I see Onana has no instinct at all in making saves, especially in this match which conceded three goals.
He bought Bayindir for no reason, stupid Ten Hag.
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Honestly United doing this badly still is a big problem, and at certain point they have to realize that ETH is not the manager to go with. I understand losing to Liverpool isn't the end of the world and they still have some time to recover, they could win a few more games in a row and do better, but at the current period we can say that it doesn't look like it will be easy for any of the games to be a fine win for them, looks like it may not happen.
I think the best case scenario for United would be firing ETH and getting another decent manager right now, that way the team could at least play under someone who knows what they are doing, just because he won the FA cup they kept him, but it's easy to see that he is not that great, and he should be fired.
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It was never imagined that Liverpool would be able to win by more than two goals at Manchester United headquarters and three consecutive wins under the new coach. Liverpool performance at the start of this season was extraordinary, full points from three matches ended up being collected perfectly which put them just below Manchester City. Now, besides Arsenal, Liverpool will be a new rival for Manchester City in the title hunt. Liverpool's game under Arne Slot is very good, at least there are no weaknesses in the squad.
The international break is a bit of a problem for teams that are in top form, especially if a player is called up to play for their country, the Fifa virus often occurs after the international break is over, hopefully the players competing in the EPL will not experience any problems during the break.
In my opinion, this was the first serious test for Liverpool, and they showed that they are very well prepared for this test. And of course, Liverpool's efficiency in this match was top notch, three shots on target throughout the game and three goals scored. Or it was Manchester United's poor defensive play, in any case, the hosts have only three points after three rounds, they are in 14th place and are already 6 points behind the leaders. In addition, the problem with weak defense has not gone away, and therefore I can say that ten Hag was unable to fix the team's main problems, and no improvements are visible from new transfers either.
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September 02, 2024, 05:50:20 AM |
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Going by the out come of the games, you obviously won thw game so congratulate to you, Manchester city keep showing that resilience in their performance and again this season its very possible they will end up with the title again even as the defending champions that they are, I like the way Manchester city gets their defense firm and are able to concede minimal number of goals as possible westham didn't have a bad performance either but city was just the best and deserved the victory, on the other hand Haaland has again continue to gain heights in the premier league, yesterday happened to be the eighth time he had gotten a hattirck in the premier League. Yes that why I said that all of this is great start for Manchester City in the Premier League and of course they still have really consistent performance, I want to see Manchester City show much bigger surprise this season by occupying the top position until the competition is over. Indeed, there will be teams like Arsenal and Liverpool who will make Manchester City get competition in the title race, but I really believe that Manchester City will remain the favorite and defend the Premier League title again. Haaland had looked less competitive at the end of last season but now he has again shown how young striker who has very dangerous accuracy and sharpness of attack, if Haaland can be with Manchester City for longer time maybe Manchester City will continue to maintain its position as the strongest team in the Premier League. For other Premier League matches I also took two matches between Newcastle vs Tottenham and Manchester United vs Liverpool. For Newcastle and Tottenham both played quite fiercely until the second half was over and Newcastle won 2 - 1, Manchester United themselves looked very difficult to keep up with Liverpool game which was really very dominant until in the end Liverpool embarrassed Manchester United with 3 goal without reply. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FLsRSH1x8%2FIMG-20240902-113958.jpg&t=665&c=3jnONKDWP8At7Q)
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September 02, 2024, 06:00:31 AM |
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Arne Slot has good start with Liverpool but to win Premier League when Manchester City have been dominating it recent seasons, is not easy. There is another competitive team, Arsenal, that are ready to beat Manchester City in this season. Liverpool and Slot will have to resolve match by match, aim at maximize results and after 10 to 15 matches, they can have better overview on their competitiveness for the title.
The victory obtained by Liverpool is certainly a good thing for them but bad for Manchester United, so they can be in second place in the standings. It's true what you said Arne slot started the season well with Liverpool and I think Liverpool is ready to face a strong Manchester City, with them being able to beat the red devils this is a good achievement but they can't assume Manchester City is easy to beat so they still have to be able to prepare well. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9L3Pd.png&t=665&c=miQzxx2y11p2Qw) It seems that Manchester United still has a problem because with this match I saw how freely Liverpool played the ball without the tight supervision of Manchester United, I think if they still don't develop maybe Ten Hag will end.
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Honestly United doing this badly still is a big problem, and at certain point they have to realize that ETH is not the manager to go with. I understand losing to Liverpool isn't the end of the world and they still have some time to recover, they could win a few more games in a row and do better, but at the current period we can say that it doesn't look like it will be easy for any of the games to be a fine win for them, looks like it may not happen.
don't just discredit Manchester United without giving the necessary applaud to Liverpool who played very well throughout this season under her new manager. It's fine that from the standard of Manchester United players, it was the least thing anyone would expect that they be outperformed in the manner it happened but the residents Liverpool side showed there is a lot to look out for this session. They've had an 100% outing for the season with zero goals conceded yet and have managed to score more goals even though the season is just at it early stage. We have to give credit to the blend we've seen in the team and the new names that's being added to the score sheet. L. Diaz has been a beast scoring together with Salah which will give them a good ground to compete well on the top three spot. I think the best case scenario for United would be firing ETH and getting another decent manager right now, that way the team could at least play under someone who knows what they are doing, just because he won the FA cup they kept him, but it's easy to see that he is not that great, and he should be fired.
after firing ETH what then happens to all the players that have been average so far? Look at the kind of floppy mistakes casimero was making with all the experience he has in his portfolio? Should we talk about rashford that played total rubbish and yet he was allowed to play full time. At the moment it's good to say that we don't understand what's the exact problem with the team. As it stands, the only reasonable person on the red shirt is just maino and no one else. Both the squared and coach are exhibiting a cold and a nonchalant attitude towards the club.
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Arne Slot has good start with Liverpool but to win Premier League when Manchester City have been dominating it recent seasons, is not easy. There is another competitive team, Arsenal, that are ready to beat Manchester City in this season. Liverpool and Slot will have to resolve match by match, aim at maximize results and after 10 to 15 matches, they can have better overview on their competitiveness for the title.
The victory obtained by Liverpool is certainly a good thing for them but bad for Manchester United, so they can be in second place in the standings. It's true what you said Arne slot started the season well with Liverpool and I think Liverpool is ready to face a strong Manchester City, with them being able to beat the red devils this is a good achievement but they can't assume Manchester City is easy to beat so they still have to be able to prepare well. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9L3Pd.png&t=665&c=miQzxx2y11p2Qw) It seems that Manchester United still has a problem because with this match I saw how freely Liverpool played the ball without the tight supervision of Manchester United, I think if they still don't develop maybe Ten Hag will end. Yes, Manchester United's game organization is still very chaotic so Liverpool punished them for several mistakes that were continuously made by several United players. I think Erik Ten Hag deserves an ultimatum so that he can do something best for the Red Devils, if he fails again in the next few matches then it is appropriate for him to be fired. This season is the third season for the Dutchman to coach United, and it seems there is no room for tolerance for him if the team's performance slumps again.
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September 02, 2024, 06:17:47 AM |
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He bought Bayindir for no reason, stupid Ten Hag. I am shocked every time the Manchester United coach makes a speech in the press. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9L7C3.png&t=665&c=hgqOAotsbhrN8Q) Erik ten Hag: “In the two years we took two trophies. At the end of the season you will see where we are”.
“I know where we will be at the end of the season. We will go for trophies”. https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1830334720049131862He created problems for Ronaldo, and made sure that Ronaldo had no choice but to give that interview in which he talked about Manchester United's problems. He also had problems with other Manchester United players and made them leave the club. He has not been able to make Manchester United win the Premier League. Every season that ends, he says that everything will improve next season. He always makes very optimistic speeches, but he makes disastrous new signings and the team is a huge disaster. I wonder: how could a good coach who managed to make Ajax win titles for many years decline so much at Manchester United?
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September 02, 2024, 06:24:46 AM |
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Erik Ten Hak must also give the opportunity to play to other goalkeepers because I see Onana has no instinct at all in making saves, especially in this match which conceded three goals. This is a very unwanted defeat and they have already dropped some points in the Premier League, if this is not evaluated then I think Manchester United will find it increasingly difficult to keep up with the game of other teams.
Why did Manchester United concede those three goals? Casemiro was the cause. He lost so much possession during that first half in the game and a had two errors leading to that goal. The defense did well for Manchester United yesterday, the lose made it look like they did nothing truthfully. But as for Andrea Onana, maybe Manchester United needs a new goalkeeper who can play the ball with his legs and at the same time make important saves for the club. He was lacks awareness as a goalkeeper and positioning. One thing I want Erik Ten Hag to do is never to start with Marcus Rashford for the next game. His favoritism for players will definitely lead to his sack. Finally, the boards and hierarchy of Manchester United need to sell out Marcus Rashford. He cannot win Manchester United the Premier League Competition nor the big European Competitions. With the newly signed Manual Ugarte coming into the sqaud after the international break, we will definitely see changes and upgrades. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9LiwN.jpeg&t=665&c=0lCbG59T_mosww) Casemiro Yesterday, The Saudi is the open in between if the mother of his kids want respect and more game time for her man. They can go cash out big future investment.
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September 02, 2024, 06:28:33 AM |
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The victory obtained by Liverpool is certainly a good thing for them but bad for Manchester United, so they can be in second place in the standings. It's true what you said Arne slot started the season well with Liverpool and I think Liverpool is ready to face a strong Manchester City, with them being able to beat the red devils this is a good achievement but they can't assume Manchester City is easy to beat so they still have to be able to prepare well. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9L3Pd.png&t=665&c=miQzxx2y11p2Qw) It seems that Manchester United still has a problem because with this match I saw how freely Liverpool played the ball without the tight supervision of Manchester United, I think if they still don't develop maybe Ten Hag will end. Arne slot managed to provide an improvement from the performance that had been previously formed by Klopp and now Arne slot continues to develop his strategy to successfully compete with Manchester City. In the match, there was only a little bad that happened to Man Utd and it happened in the defense which still often gave Liverpool great opportunities to score. Let's see how Luiz Diaz very freely scored with a header without any obstacles and the second score was also very easy for Diaz to score. Liverpool appeared more comfortable even though they were playing away but always gave fast attacks and Man Utd's defense was always unprepared for the fast attacks. I think Erik Ten Hag has tried to fix the badness but the defense that still looks weak is one of Man Utd's difficulties in competing with other top clubs.
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September 02, 2024, 06:39:59 AM |
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He bought Bayindir for no reason, stupid Ten Hag. I am shocked every time the Manchester United coach makes a speech in the press. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F09%2F02%2F9L7C3.png&t=665&c=hgqOAotsbhrN8Q) Erik ten Hag: “In the two years we took two trophies. At the end of the season you will see where we are”.
“I know where we will be at the end of the season. We will go for trophies”. https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1830334720049131862I wonder: how could a good coach who managed to make Ajax win titles for many years decline so much at Manchester United? Bro, this question you just ask shows that the problem of Manchester united is way beyond coaches or managers. It's very true that Eric ten hang is a very good coach and he has proven himself already at Manchester united that he is a winner, because even in the mids of all this turbulence years as manager of Manchester united, he still manage to win something at the end of the season, so that shows what he is made of. let's look at the previous managers that has coach Manchester united, they are all top quality coaches, from jose Mourinho, ole gunnar solskjaer and luis van gaal, but due to how the club is being structured, they all fail to win the premier league, and and if you look at what Ronaldo said about Manchester united, it was the actual fact, nothing has changed, it's more of a commercial club than a football club, just as Luis van gaal rightfully said, so in my own perspective, nothing at Manchester united is going to change regardless of if ten hang is being sack or not, untill the way the club is being structured is addressed. So changing of manager wouldn't change anything about this Manchester united side, until the real problem is addressed.
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Erik Ten Hak must also give the opportunity to play to other goalkeepers because I see Onana has no instinct at all in making saves, especially in this match which conceded three goals. This is a very unwanted defeat and they have already dropped some points in the Premier League, if this is not evaluated then I think Manchester United will find it increasingly difficult to keep up with the game of other teams.
You say an unwanted defeats, it's really funny how people of nowadays make sentimental contributions and statements regarding their favorite clubs. The Red devils are so not in form and shaky defendlines. Erik Ten Hag will execute the actionable plans for the club if he still wants to keep his job. Wait a second, what's wrong with Erik Ten Hag? I can't figure out what's wrong with the club, is it the players or the coach? Based on their poor performance and the statement made by the Coach to the press after the game, I don't think the manager is ready to take it as a challenge to win elite oppositions.
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