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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (49.4%)
Liverpool - 12 (14.8%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.2%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.2%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.9%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.5%)
Total Voters: 81

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October 10, 2024, 07:33:31 AM

The issue with Manchester united's underperformance is almost the same as what Chelsea went through in 2022 premier league season, and personally though, I am yet to come to terms with the general believe that Ten hang is the main character behind Manchester united's underperformance, because if he were, then what exactly is holding the club's management from sacking him and replacing him with another better coach?
Well, there is something that makes us wonder here, what are they really thinking? and what is actually the content of the discussion so that they still retain Erik Ten Hag? is this related to Erik Ten Hag who doesn't like to act up? I mean he didn't say anything to management so it didn't become a pressure that made management a little disturbed. Because in several cases of dismissal that I saw, it was not because the coach was bad or gave a bad performance for the team, but the management was disturbed by the coach who always criticized the management or always demanded facilities, while they didn't want to spend money on the needs needed by the coach.

I understand what you mean and almost everyone thinks the same thing but we really can't predict who will win it because anything can happen, so I say we can only predict candidates without guaranteeing. Do you remember how Manchester City won the title in the last season? yeah Manchester City must thank to Arsenal for providing a way when approaching the end of the season.
Last season is already past time. We should not judge by past games. We have here and now. And we have real-time facts that no one will argue with. That is the basis we must rely on.

Let's be honest about the fact that Manchester are not in a good mood this season. Well, things are not going the way we expected. Everything went to the well-known place, didn't it?
Manchester City is still on the right track, they still look good. They have retained the title for 4 consecutive seasons, that is something good that they can maintain, because it is not easy to maintain the Premier League title for a long time because here the competition is very tight.
Decline is a common thing experienced by all teams, including Manchester City. If I see them declining and slipping a lot this season I will not be surprised by all that. There are many factors that can make all that happen, it could be because they themselves are declining, or other teams are improving while they are not improving.

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October 10, 2024, 08:12:03 AM



Unbelievable, Slot is being a coach with the best stats in the first 10 EPL matches in Liverpool's history. He has recorded the most wins compared to Liverpool's old managers in their history. I feel so nice to see him excel this way as a new manager at Liverpool.  I think he would do well behind Klopp's legacy team and knowing how good he is as a new coach.

I know he couldn't have done it without Klopp's legacy. But, I must give him some credit for stepping into a big shadow and working hard. He is potentially to be one of the great managers in the future.

It's probably that he's gonna follow Klopp's path, or even better.
It would not be wrong if Liverpool brought in Arne as a replacement for Klopp. Because, Arne has proven capable of continuing to bring Liverpool success in the Premier League. Even currently Liverpool is quite firmly at the top of the Premier League standings. This is clear proof that Arne's performance at Liverpool is very good. Because it is true that Liverpool's current players have been trained and prepared well by Klopp. However, if for example Klopp's replacement coach does not have good skills, it could be that Klopp's team at Liverpool will actually perform poorly. Because there are many examples of clubs that used to shine, but after changing coaches their performance got worse, even though the squad was the same. So that Arne can maintain the consistency of Liverpool's performance, which can be said to be a very extraordinary thing. Because of course training big name players requires firmness and an approach that is not easy. But what surprised me was that Arne already had very good chemistry with the Liverpool players. Even though Arne has only been Liverpool coach for a few months.

Therefore, this is a characteristic that Arne is a very professional coach and can establish good communication with the players he trains. So I agree with your opinion, that Arne could become a great coach recognized by the world of football. Maybe this could happen if, for example, Arne could bring Liverpool back to being champions in the Premier League and several other big competitions. So if Arne couldn't achieve all that, he wouldn't be labeled a great coach. So hopefully Arne can achieve many achievements with Liverpool. The reason is that currently Liverpool fans certainly really hope that Arne can bring Liverpool back to being champions in many competitions, especially in the Premier League.

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October 10, 2024, 08:20:56 AM

MU management has always hesitated to fire Ten Hag. If MU continues to have a waste of a season, don't blame Erik Ten Hag. Those who decide to keep the Dutch coach will bear the greatest responsibility. The management of directors has been very strong in reforming MU, except for the head coach position. MU needs a head coach with enough caliber and talent. I see that after all that has happened, Ten Hag has not shown that he deserves to sit in the hot seat at Old Trafford. And I affirm that MU players are no longer fighting for coach Erik Ten Hag. It seems they have stopped fighting for the coach, but they should still fight for the club and the fans.

I think the main problem why the MU board has not fired Ten Hag is simply because there is no one suitable at the moment to replace him. Who will have enough talent and courage to not be able to withstand the pressure of leading the current MU?
It is indeed difficult to find another qualified coach, especially when the season is already underway, of course it will be very risky for Manchester United management so they are reluctant to produce Erik Ten Hag. I am very disappointed with the management's decision to maintain Manchester United but there are no other steps that are good for the team, so it is likely that this season there will be no development for Manchester United and the possibility of Ten Hag being able to revive the Manchester United team which is currently slumping is very small because in the last few seasons Ten Hag has never been able to even though he has made many improvements.

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October 10, 2024, 08:31:27 AM

It is indeed difficult to find another qualified coach, especially when the season is already underway, of course it will be very risky for Manchester United management so they are reluctant to produce Erik Ten Hag.
They can find other good coaches but did they already work with some good coaches after the retirement of Sir. Alex Ferguson?

If good coach is not their problems, because as said they worked with some good coaches and failed, their problems must come from somewhere else. So if they sack Ten Hag, and find another coach, will their problems be resolved?

I really believe the answer is No, it won't, but surely Ten Hag deserves to be sacked with his bad management in more than two seasons.

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I am very disappointed with the management's decision to maintain Manchester United but there are no other steps that are good for the team, so it is likely that this season there will be no development for Manchester United and the possibility of Ten Hag being able to revive the Manchester United team which is currently slumping is very small because in the last few seasons Ten Hag has never been able to even though he has made many improvements.
Their bad management is not only from Ten Hag, but as a head coach, he must be responsible for bad performances and results. Manchester United need some big changes, and more than only the head coach position, more than players.

I mean sport directors, the owner of the club, need to be changed because bad management comes from top to bottom, and it's not bottom up, but top down.

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October 10, 2024, 08:33:21 AM

I understand what you mean and almost everyone thinks the same thing but we really can't predict who will win it because anything can happen, so I say we can only predict candidates without guaranteeing. Do you remember how Manchester City won the title in the last season? yeah Manchester City must thank to Arsenal for providing a way when approaching the end of the season.
Last season is already past time. We should not judge by past games. We have here and now. And we have real-time facts that no one will argue with. That is the basis we must rely on.

Let's be honest about the fact that Manchester are not in a good mood this season. Well, things are not going the way we expected. Everything went to the well-known place, didn't it?
It is true that if Arsenal last season seemed to pave the way for Manchester cit to win the Premier League, they has been able to be consistent since the beginning of the season but precisely when the enters the last 10 games precisly their lose consistency, what happened in last season should be an experience for Arteta and Arsenal this season not to repeat their mistakes again,  This season Manchester City can be said to be not in their best form even though so far they have not been defeated so Arsenal and other teams should be able to take advantage of that to their advantage to win the Premier League this season, but I think the possibility of Manchester City to repeat last season achievement is still wide open now considering that they are a team that usually experiences a quick resurgence and is finally able to take advantage of the opportunities that exist to become championship.
But in my opinion, what we are asking now is when Manchester City is in a bad mood, can Team Rival make good use of it?

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October 10, 2024, 08:54:16 AM

I understand what you mean and almost everyone thinks the same thing but we really can't predict who will win it because anything can happen, so I say we can only predict candidates without guaranteeing. Do you remember how Manchester City won the title in the last season? yeah Manchester City must thank to Arsenal for providing a way when approaching the end of the season.
Last season is already past time. We should not judge by past games. We have here and now. And we have real-time facts that no one will argue with. That is the basis we must rely on.

Let's be honest about the fact that Manchester are not in a good mood this season. Well, things are not going the way we expected. Everything went to the well-known place, didn't it?
It is true that if Arsenal last season seemed to pave the way for Manchester cit to win the Premier League, they has been able to be consistent since the beginning of the season but precisely when the enters the last 10 games precisly their lose consistency, what happened in last season should be an experience for Arteta and Arsenal this season not to repeat their mistakes again,  This season Manchester City can be said to be not in their best form even though so far they have not been defeated so Arsenal and other teams should be able to take advantage of that to their advantage to win the Premier League this season, but I think the possibility of Manchester City to repeat last season achievement is still wide open now considering that they are a team that usually experiences a quick resurgence and is finally able to take advantage of the opportunities that exist to become championship.
But in my opinion, what we are asking now is when Manchester City is in a bad mood, can Team Rival make good use of it?
Well, presently, Arsenal and Manchester city have both earned the same points so far, while Liverpool is leading the pack with one point making them the number 1 in the league table.

If you ask me, I did say that it's possibly still too early to say or judge whether or not Manchester city is weak this season, you and I know that it's not yet time when games become heated with every club trying their possible best to win all their games so as to stay in the top Positions.

If for whatever reason, Manchester city loses their form, then the clubs I think that are in the best position to take advantage of that is Arsenal and Liverpool, this is if this two clubs are able to maintain a good form as well by the way.

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Last season is already past time. We should not judge by past games. We have here and now. And we have real-time facts that no one will argue with. That is the basis we must rely on.

Let's be honest about the fact that Manchester are not in a good mood this season. Well, things are not going the way we expected. Everything went to the well-known place, didn't it?
It seems you've forgotten that in the last two seasons, Manchester City spent lesser days at the top of the English Premier League table than Arsenal but still went on to win the English Premier League title at the end of the seasons. Manchester City are just 1 point being current league leaders Liverpool and that's not a difficult task for Pep Guardiola's men to turn things around and move to the top. They've done it in the past and with the Spanish manager as the club's coach, they can still repeat it again. So for me, Manchester City remains the favorites to win the league this season

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October 10, 2024, 09:32:48 AM

It is indeed difficult to find another qualified coach, especially when the season is already underway, of course it will be very risky for Manchester United management so they are reluctant to produce Erik Ten Hag. I am very disappointed with the management's decision to maintain Manchester United but there are no other steps that are good for the team, so it is likely that this season there will be no development for Manchester United and the possibility of Ten Hag being able to revive the Manchester United team which is currently slumping is very small because in the last few seasons Ten Hag has never been able to even though he has made many improvements.

Not for some teams and even Liverpool with their new coach still appear quite consistent and they play much more optimally. Management still sees Erik Ten Hak as having the ability to make some changes and they want him to have found problems in the team before the middle of the season.
Judging from the quality of the players Manchester United chooses good players, Erik Ten Hak must find a solution regarding the right strategy when facing opponents.

Next week's match will face Brentford and this should be a point of revival for Manchester United because currently they are also not very consistent so Manchester United can win the match more easily.

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Therefore, this is a characteristic that Arne is a very professional coach and can establish good communication with the players he trains. So I agree with your opinion, that Arne could become a great coach recognized by the world of football. Maybe this could happen if, for example, Arne could bring Liverpool back to being champions in the Premier League and several other big competitions. So if Arne couldn't achieve all that, he wouldn't be labeled a great coach. So hopefully Arne can achieve many achievements with Liverpool. The reason is that currently Liverpool fans certainly really hope that Arne can bring Liverpool back to being champions in many competitions, especially in the Premier League.

It is easy to show such results when you get a team after Klopp in perfect condition and all that Slott is doing at the moment is just maintaining the team at the level at which he got it. I think it is too early to say whether he can become a champion with Liverpool, there are still many games ahead, and we know that even with Klopp Liverpool could not always be stable throughout the season, the same can happen again and we do not know how well Slott can manage the team in case of some crisis, when everything is fine he smiles, but what will happen when Liverpool lose several games in a row...

 
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Liverpool has been updated about Alisson Becker injured and it is confirmed that he gets hamstring injured but this not categorized as hard hamstring injured so Alisson Becker only absense for at least for next 7 matches with Liverpool so certainly Alisson Becker will be absense when Liverpool playing against Chelsea, Arsenal and Aston Villa at Premier League and Alisson Becker also will not be available when Liverpool playing against Leverkusen in Champion league and this is not good considering Alisson Becker performance before got injured is very impressive and now Liverpool only counting on their second goalkeeper Caoimhín Kelleher so hopefully Kelleher will be playing consistent for Liverpool upcoming matches

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No, I think we can predict the two teams that will definitely end up lifting the EPL trophy this season looking at the performance of the teams in the league. There's no way Manchester City will not come to the back of your mind as the favourite to win the league even though Arsenal and Liverpool is not doing bad this season.

Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool are the best team for the trophy this season but Pep Guardiola has a master class in finishing very strong even when his team has faced so many difficulties either in the beginning, or the middle of the season unlike the other teams that can easily drop form and not be able to catch up with others again when the league gets tough.

I understand what you mean and almost everyone thinks the same thing but we really can't predict who will win it because anything can happen, so I say we can only predict candidates without guaranteeing. Do you remember how Manchester City won the title in the last season? yeah Manchester City must thank to Arsenal for providing a way when approaching the end of the season.

I absolutely agree with you. I remember many said we could predict the trophy winners by mid-season. But, it didn't apply to last season's results. And it can be said City only needed 1/3 of the season to lift the trophy, and they backstabbed Arsenal at the late season.

And from my opinion above, that's enough to prove the results were sometimes random. As for the title contenders, it's obvious that Arsenal and Manchester City are among them.

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That "bettors will continue to lose money" part is one that I do not agree with, except you are saying it from a different context, because I do not understand why anyone in their right senses will continue to bet for a club that is clearly and consistently losing almost all of their games, even with smaller clubs they seem to be better than, or supposed to perform better than.

You're right, how will someone with common sense continue to bet on Manchester United games when it is so obvious that this team is not prepared to win? Manchester United has only won two games since the start of the season, so what exactly would convince a gambler to bet on Manchester United to win against any opponent? I would prefer to bet on any of their games as over 2.5 or BTTS since it is more secure than picking Manchester United to win.

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The issue with Manchester united's underperformance is almost the same as what Chelsea went through in 2022 premier league season, and personally though, I am yet to come to terms with the general believe that Ten hang is the main character behind Manchester united's underperformance, because if he were, then what exactly is holding the club's management from sacking him and replacing him with another better coach?

I believe Ten Hag only works for a team that is not prepared to fire him, which is why we continue to see him as the team manager, If the management is ready to fire him, the results Manchester United has had in their games this season are terrible enough for the team to do so. However, a manager who wanted to maintain his work was expected to try to win their last game, but Ten Hags was happy with the draw against Aston Villa because he had a lot of support from the team management, the manager, who has won two games this season, does not have to be satisfied with the draw.

However, Manchester United is right now in 14th place, I do not understand the point of the new players that Ten Hags signed this season, he's very lucky that Manchester United's management cannot be like Chelsea's management; otherwise, he would have lost his position as manager since the season he was hired.

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Therefore, this is a characteristic that Arne is a very professional coach and can establish good communication with the players he trains. So I agree with your opinion, that Arne could become a great coach recognized by the world of football. Maybe this could happen if, for example, Arne could bring Liverpool back to being champions in the Premier League and several other big competitions. So if Arne couldn't achieve all that, he wouldn't be labeled a great coach. So hopefully Arne can achieve many achievements with Liverpool. The reason is that currently Liverpool fans certainly really hope that Arne can bring Liverpool back to being champions in many competitions, especially in the Premier League.
The key to Liverpool success in recruiting Arne Slot as Jurgen Klopp replacement is inseparable from the club management who knows what the club needs and always ensures that every decision is taken in a good way. Arne Slot does not need to be Jurgen Klopp figure but he must show something different with a positive goal. Liverpool is in the right hands when the management is able to manage with full love. Even Liverpool transfer season did not make many purchases because they knew what to do with Arne Slot cool hand. The Red solidity at the top of the standings proves to us that the quality of the players and the right coach are the keys that put them at the top of the standings without being shaken.

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Manchester City is still on the right track, they still look good. They have retained the title for 4 consecutive seasons, that is something good that they can maintain, because it is not easy to maintain the Premier League title for a long time because here the competition is very tight.
Decline is a common thing experienced by all teams, including Manchester City. If I see them declining and slipping a lot this season I will not be surprised by all that. There are many factors that can make all that happen, it could be because they themselves are declining, or other teams are improving while they are not improving.
Honestly I don't really understand what some folks want from Manchester city sincerely speaking. Manchester city is not the only team in the premier League, so other teams should rise to the occasion and do something about winning the league title than just expecting Manchester city to be on their highest level all the time. Anyone still having doubts Manchester doesn't know Manchester city very well. They are second in the league table and just a point behind league leaders Liverpool. I don't really see any form of decline in Manchester city team. Manchester is still the most complete team to win the premier League in my own assessment.

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The key to Liverpool success in recruiting Arne Slot as Jurgen Klopp replacement is inseparable from the club management who knows what the club needs and always ensures that every decision is taken in a good way. Arne Slot does not need to be Jurgen Klopp figure but he must show something different with a positive goal.
They had many years with Klopp and already loved his attacking tactics so this is one of biggest considerations when they choose a new coach as replacement of Klopp in their club. They actually saw it in Arne Slot and decided to sign a contract with Slot because of this.

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Liverpool is in the right hands when the management is able to manage with full love. Even Liverpool transfer season did not make many purchases because they knew what to do with Arne Slot cool hand. The Red solidity at the top of the standings proves to us that the quality of the players and the right coach are the keys that put them at the top of the standings without being shaken.
So far we can say that Liverpool are in right hands of a good coach and Slot is very promising for Liverpool with a new era and possibly they will win titles with him too. Biggest challenge for Slot is many star players in Liverpool who have been playing for them many years since Klopp era will soon losing their best performances and leaving the club as well.

The key to succeed in Liverpool with Slot, is replace these old star players with new younger players successfully. If he can do this well, he will be able to have a successful career in Liverpool and certainly will win titles with them.

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Not for some teams and even Liverpool with their new coach still appear quite consistent and they play much more optimally. Management still sees Erik Ten Hak as having the ability to make some changes and they want him to have found problems in the team before the middle of the season.
Judging from the quality of the players Manchester United chooses good players, Erik Ten Hak must find a solution regarding the right strategy when facing opponents.
This season Ten Hag still finds it quite difficult to find the right strategy in order to be able to arouse the passion of Manchester United players and that can be seen from several matches that Manchester United have played this season. So Ten Hag should have found where the problem is and why they are still having difficulty winning important matches this season because Manchester United must focus on two major competitions this season, namely the Premier League and also the UEL.

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Liverpool has been updated about Alisson Becker injured and it is confirmed that he gets hamstring injured but this not categorized as hard hamstring injured so Alisson Becker only absense for at least for next 7 matches with Liverpool so certainly Alisson Becker will be absense when Liverpool playing against Chelsea, Arsenal and Aston Villa at Premier League and Alisson Becker also will not be available when Liverpool playing against Leverkusen in Champion league and this is not good considering Alisson Becker performance before got injured is very impressive and now Liverpool only counting on their second goalkeeper Caoimhín Kelleher so hopefully Kelleher will be playing consistent for Liverpool upcoming matches


This isn’t Alisson’s first hamstring injury, and as previously, the recovery is expected to take about a month. While the absence of Alisson is worrisome, he was playing rather well then, but Liverpool is a big team, and big teams do come big challenges. The young goalkeeper Kelleher has done well when given the chance, and Vítězslav Jaroš could also be a strong option. So yes losing Alisson is a blow indeed, but they do still have a relatively strong side.


Manchester City is still on the right track, they still look good. They have retained the title for 4 consecutive seasons, that is something good that they can maintain, because it is not easy to maintain the Premier League title for a long time because here the competition is very tight.
Decline is a common thing experienced by all teams, including Manchester City. If I see them declining and slipping a lot this season I will not be surprised by all that. There are many factors that can make all that happen, it could be because they themselves are declining, or other teams are improving while they are not improving.
Honestly I don't really understand what some folks want from Manchester city sincerely speaking. Manchester city is not the only team in the premier League, so other teams should rise to the occasion and do something about winning the league title than just expecting Manchester city to be on their highest level all the time. Anyone still having doubts Manchester doesn't know Manchester city very well. They are second in the league table and just a point behind league leaders Liverpool. I don't really see any form of decline in Manchester city team. Manchester is still the most complete team to win the premier League in my own assessment.

There is no sign at all of a City slowdown their form is very strong and their squad depth allows them to compete in all competitions as well.

Under Pep Guardiola as manager, City have great tactical flexibility. City have the ability to bounce back from pressure. And there is still a long season, there are still many games to play, at the moment only a point behind Liverpool who are top of the table. Anything is possible, but Man City are the team that has the potential to come out on top.

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It is indeed difficult to find another qualified coach, especially when the season is already underway, of course it will be very risky for Manchester United management so they are reluctant to produce Erik Ten Hag. I am very disappointed with the management's decision to maintain Manchester United but there are no other steps that are good for the team, so it is likely that this season there will be no development for Manchester United and the possibility of Ten Hag being able to revive the Manchester United team which is currently slumping is very small because in the last few seasons Ten Hag has never been able to even though he has made many improvements.

Ten Hag can not even get Manchester United performance back this season; it will be very difficult for him to do that, and it’s obvious Manchester United have not made any improvement this season, although before the start of the season some people thought Erik Ten Hag would do everything to get Manchester United back, but right now we have already seen it. Ten Hag can’t do everything to make United better. I still wonder why he is still yet to understand his mistakes; he is not even talking of making some changes to make the club better again; instead, the club is getting worse.

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October 10, 2024, 12:04:37 PM


Ten Hag can not even get Manchester United performance back this season; it will be very difficult for him to do that, and it’s obvious Manchester United have not made any improvement this season, although before the start of the season some people thought Erik Ten Hag would do everything to get Manchester United back, but right now we have already seen it. Ten Hag can’t do everything to make United better. I still wonder why he is still yet to understand his mistakes; he is not even talking of making some changes to make the club better again; instead, the club is getting worse.
It's one thing to see a problem and another to know how to fix it. I think ten Hag has done his best and I have no doubt he has tried his best but if he can't improve the team then we need to find someone who can. Ten Hag is asking for more time but I think he's had plenty of time and things are only getting worse so I don't see the point in waiting until the end of the season to do what needs to be done now. Chelsea sacked Pochettino even though he was making obvious progress, I don't understand why Manchester United are taking so long to make this decision.

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October 10, 2024, 12:05:34 PM

This season Ten Hag still finds it quite difficult to find the right strategy in order to be able to arouse the passion of Manchester United players and that can be seen from several matches that Manchester United have played this season. So Ten Hag should have found where the problem is and why they are still having difficulty winning important matches this season because Manchester United must focus on two major competitions this season, namely the Premier League and also the UEL.
What's going on in Old Trafford? There are tense momentum and this is not good structure for the club. EPL is not easy for these managers as we all think it is. A coach can be doing well outside the English Premier League but when he finally settles in England, he start experiencing difficulties and facing challenges weigh bigger and not in his position to comprehend. I will keep saying this, Erik Ten Hag is not capable of handing Manchester United, why? Because there's more pressing expectations. Thinking of it, why placed so much trust on a manager that's not even confident for a winning, rather settles for a draw. Erik Ten Hag is yet to ensure his team becomes competitive, his moves are dormant and absolutely not competitive.

 

 
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