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February 27, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!



In itself, reporting about KYC is not unusual, more and more sites are using it and are also being imposed this will from the licensor. It's just a shame that some sites turn it into a circus, and continue to request documents and carry out certain checks. When exactly did you receive a message about the KYC and have you already submitted these documents to the Betfury site? If you have submitted the documents, we can only make a judgment about the situation, because asking for KYC by Betfury is not something strange.

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February 27, 2022, 06:28:07 PM
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February 27, 2022, 09:07:22 PM
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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!



I only withdrawed a lot lower amounts than you so they didn't ask for my KYC but as the support agent has stated they always have the right to ask it. This is not only valid for Betfury but for all major crypto casino sites.
They are legit so I wouldn't worry to do KYC on Betfury.



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February 27, 2022, 09:50:01 PM
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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!
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I only withdrawed a lot lower amounts than you so they didn't ask for my KYC but as the support agent has stated they always have the right to ask it. This is not only valid for Betfury but for all major crypto casino sites.
They are legit so I wouldn't worry to do KYC on Betfury.

he is a new player and he is asking to withdraw quite a handsome amount. it may indeed trigger from the betfury side to ask kyc. as a licensed casino, they have their terms & conditions about this, read item 5.15 of their terms and conditions , as they can do random checks. also i hope you are not below 18 as they can freeze your funds.

btw, @pfhismgrpg, have you read their terms before sending money to betfury? it is a licensed casino so no surprise that they will ask kyc if they think something unusual to the account. you should have withdrawn small amount and not one-time withdrawal of big amount. because i think, that triggers their system.

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February 27, 2022, 10:39:22 PM
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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?
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February 28, 2022, 01:26:48 AM
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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?
Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

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February 28, 2022, 04:06:03 AM
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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?
If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.



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February 28, 2022, 04:09:11 AM
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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?
Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

In some cases KYC is applied in relation to each country's regulations or licenses to avoid some crimes. In crypto casino money laundering is not only focused on the amount but also on the behavior of the transaction for example deposit $100 then bet $10 and then request a withdrawal, it will be suspected of money laundering. this case often happens on some sites even with a balance under $100

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this is really good for those who use a VPN to play on betfury, i see many gambling players who come from countries that prohibit gambling.  and regarding multi-accounts, it's best if players who use that trick are banned, because it can disrupt the business.
VPN is usually used to cheat bonuses and promotions there are also those who use it to access the game because some games are not available in several countries
In this case Betfury understands it as long as it does not violate the rules moreover there is a risk of frozen if caught, so far we haven't seen reports like this.
That is the key problem with most casinos. They really need to figure out a way to stop the bots without banning VPN. I mean I have been using VPN for as long as I can remember, did paid ones for years, free ones too, and now doing Opera one and I have been very happy with it.

There are some casinos, even most casinos that do not allow you to do something like that and I do not get why I have to really follow their rule just because they are afraid of the bots that would attack them. This is THEIR problem and not mine, they are bothering how I gamble just because of other people and that annoys me. It is not about just here, it is about everywhere else, plenty of casinos do this.

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February 28, 2022, 02:43:08 PM
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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?
If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.

That's not how it works and you definitely didn't know what’s the casino protocol for checking money laundering activity, First of all 2000$ is not a very huge amoun to be suspected that you are laundering even if your account is new. Money laundering is a repetitive process of depositing and withdrawing fixed amount of money without commiting any bets or just few bets or deposit huge amount and withdraw it quickly at one go that’s why some casino requires wagering requirements for all the deposit money before they can withdraw.

Typically money launderer do this same pattern multiple times using different account which the casino can track by tracking there IP or by viewing there account activity.

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If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.



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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted.

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March 01, 2022, 08:14:09 PM
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If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.
I would guess that it must be also related to where the money came from. I am not sure if they check that or not, but I always assumed that if the money came from a known binance wallet, or coinbase wallet or somewhere trustworthy with KYC like that, then withdrawn to somewhere like that again. Then the casinos would feel fine about it, or at least probably would feel fine if they knew and check it. But, if it comes from private wallet, and goes to private wallet then casinos may end up not feeling so sure about it as well.

Money laundering in casinos is a big risk. If it wasn't, all those people who steal millions of dollars in hacks, could simply send it to betfury, then withdraw to another account and nobody would know where the money went. Betfury and every other casino is responsible for keeping that away from their business.

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March 01, 2022, 09:56:28 PM
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If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.
I would guess that it must be also related to where the money came from. I am not sure if they check that or not, but I always assumed that if the money came from a known binance wallet, or coinbase wallet or somewhere trustworthy with KYC like that, then withdrawn to somewhere like that again. Then the casinos would feel fine about it, or at least probably would feel fine if they knew and check it. But, if it comes from private wallet, and goes to private wallet then casinos may end up not feeling so sure about it as well.

Money laundering in casinos is a big risk. If it wasn't, all those people who steal millions of dollars in hacks, could simply send it to betfury, then withdraw to another account and nobody would know where the money went. Betfury and every other casino is responsible for keeping that away from their business.

Money laundering is becoming more and more common in the world unfortunately. If a casino is crypto-only, it is extremely difficult to find out and you can wonder to what extent there would then be money laundering. Since the money is not converted into fiat and it is normally a requirement at a casino that it must be returned to the same wallet. If it were converted into real money, it would be a completely different story to easily launder money that way. The example of $2000 is a small amount, but I have read that it is already around the limit with the licensor to perform a mandatory KYC on Curacao for everything above that amount.

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March 01, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted.
In most cases, you wont really able to push through withdrawal if you havent able to wager up your deposit on that particular requirement because it would show up some warning or alerts that you needed to do that.

In his case, he do able to make out some withdrawal and later on it do ask out some KYC which do really sucks because some of known popular gambling  sites on this market doesnt really have
any requirement even if you do withdraw much more bigger amounts or without having those strings attached.

Therefore, theres something wrong with the user and if there's none then there might be some security trigger or some sort.

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The Betfury team is interested in official listing and adding BFG token to the whitelist. To do this, there must be a good trading volume. At the moment we are doing our best to let more people know about our token and its utility. Each loyal user can bring us closer to listing on top exchanges. You just need to use the BFG opportunities and make trades. We do our best to bring BFG to the official listings with marketing support. Our team have never refused from listing on Binance and never won’t do it.
happy to hear that the betfury team's next target is listing on Binance. imo BFG token prices are currently very stable, I'm sure there are many traders out there who can't wait for BFG to be listed on Binance, BFG prices will definitely fluctuate and that makes the attraction of BFG even stronger.

it is indeed great to hear that they are still pushing thru the binance listing. maybe this is the reason why they are also holding sig campaign again to attract more players as well as possible traders of their token. preparation is the key to cover those plans. because afaik, binance is only accepting donations as part of listing as they are giving it also to their charity. and if they see that the token has good following already, they may list it with no prob.
as long as the betfury team is actively innovating their services, their patrons will stay on their site.

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March 01, 2022, 10:46:00 PM
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it is indeed great to hear that they are still pushing thru the binance listing. maybe this is the reason why they are also holding sig campaign again to attract more players as well as possible traders of their token. preparation is the key to cover those plans. because afaik, binance is only accepting donations as part of listing as they are giving it also to their charity. and if they see that the token has good following already, they may list it with no prob.
as long as the betfury team is actively innovating their services, their patrons will stay on their site.

It would be a bad decision to not pursue listing the token on Binance. It is the biggest exchange with the highest trading volume, so a lot of projects would love to get a listing on it. Lets give the team some time to prepare everything, but the more buzz there is around Betfury, the better their chances to get listed.



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