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[Strongkored]

And that's the problem with this strategy of yours, because the least amount of BFG token a user can stake on BetFury casino is roughly 100,000 and above, of which not everybody can afford such huge amount of money, because 100,000BFG is currently valued at $1456, which has a very small daily payout of $0.7, too small to gamble with for any tangible profit, and also has a monthly payout of $21.4 and yearly payout of $256.8 for each 100,000 BFG staked worth $1452.8 base on the current market price  (1BFG = 0.01458 USDT)

Not sure where you got that number but the minimum amount of tokens to stake is only 10, which is also written on the Staking page. I wouldn’t buy tokens just to stake them; I think it is better to just gather them from your gambling activity. The daily amount you receive is maybe quite small but it all adds up also.

He uses the staking calculate feature I think and indeed in that feature only calculations are available with a minimum staking of 100K, but regardless of the number of tokens that can be staked from these calculations it proves that what the we gets from staking is not much and the staking will take more than 1 year to be able to get ROI unless BFG goes up very significantly

[len01]

Do you agree that Biswap dex belong to BetFury? Or at least same people are on high positions at BetFury and Biswap? Why I think both have same owners - BFG token first listing was on Biswap, and BFG was the only token available for stacking/LP there. As if that dex was created to let people buy BFG tokens. The reason I am asking is that Biswap yesterday started their signature campaign here.

Long time ago I have noticed that BetFury runs signature campaigns only when they have special events. Biswap did not have any running special events, so maybe there will something new on BetFury or Biswap soon?

I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

[Beparanf]

Do you agree that Biswap dex belong to BetFury? Or at least same people are on high positions at BetFury and Biswap? Why I think both have same owners - BFG token first listing was on Biswap, and BFG was the only token available for stacking/LP there. As if that dex was created to let people buy BFG tokens. The reason I am asking is that Biswap yesterday started their signature campaign here.

Long time ago I have noticed that BetFury runs signature campaigns only when they have special events. Biswap did not have any running special events, so maybe there will something new on BetFury or Biswap soon?

I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

We can know the truth that they are not same owner  . They have an stategic partnership last year about BFG token list in Biswap and other feature that will highlight BFG tokens on Biswap exchange. You can read full article on the attached link below. Besides BFG first list on Pancakeswap and not on Biswap, they just add BFG later on after the partnership announcement.

The similarities of the promotion pattern is obvious because they are partner and they consult each other. Probably Biswap team was reached out by the Royse then he point out that Betfury launch same promotion here in the forum that’s why they are convinced to do the same program.

https://biswap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407351510545-Biswap-BetFury-Strategic-Partnership-

[AbuBhakar]

Looking on the ground of his post. He is comparing staking and gambling in terms of profitability. So he is not wrong on saying that statement since his comparison for gambling is staking which provide fixed profit while gambling is still a game of chance and we all know that losing on gambling is very high due to house edge.

I believe he is just trying to promote staking for a more safe way to earn which is not bad idea since staking and gambling is both feature of BFG tokens. It’s not wrong to compared both Staking and Gambling for the sake of profitability using BFG tokens.

It seems to me that gambling only on the daily staking payouts is a safe way to keep BFG tokens or even multiply them. On the one hand, this strategy allows you not to lose your initial investment because the BFG tokens remain in the staking. On the other hand, the daily staking payouts allow you to take a risk in gambling, and even if you lose, you will have another try the next day. The only problem with this strategy is that you need to have a lot of BFG tokens in staking. At least you should have a couple hundred thousand BFG tokens to get only a few dollars as a daily staking payout.

I agree on this. Playing only using the profit will minimize risk involved and also players will have no pressure at when playing using profit only that result for better gameplay because they can think straight when gambling.

Personally, Most of my gambling win happened when my bank roll was small because I’m not scared to increase bet when needed and no pressure when losing that usually makes me do careless bet to chase losses.

[Fredomago]

Looking on the ground of his post. He is comparing staking and gambling in terms of profitability. So he is not wrong on saying that statement since his comparison for gambling is staking which provide fixed profit while gambling is still a game of chance and we all know that losing on gambling is very high due to house edge.

I believe he is just trying to promote staking for a more safe way to earn which is not bad idea since staking and gambling is both feature of BFG tokens. It’s not wrong to compared both Staking and Gambling for the sake of profitability using BFG tokens.

It seems to me that gambling only on the daily staking payouts is a safe way to keep BFG tokens or even multiply them. On the one hand, this strategy allows you not to lose your initial investment because the BFG tokens remain in the staking. On the other hand, the daily staking payouts allow you to take a risk in gambling, and even if you lose, you will have another try the next day. The only problem with this strategy is that you need to have a lot of BFG tokens in staking. At least you should have a couple hundred thousand BFG tokens to get only a few dollars as a daily staking payout.

I agree on this. Playing only using the profit will minimize risk involved and also players will have no pressure at when playing using profit only that result for better gameplay because they can think straight when gambling.

Personally, Most of my gambling win happened when my bank roll was small because I’m not scared to increase bet when needed and no pressure when losing that usually makes me do careless bet to chase losses.

If you are good enough those earnings from your staking will allow you to grow your assets, if you know how to limit and you know how to control, there are many possibilities that you can earn more as like with how the post above you stated, it's more relaxing if you are just using your rewards and not to allow yourself to use your main capital.

And adding to your last statement, chasing losses is always the killer, you will take it aggressively to win back those early losses
ending up to lose more instead of winning it back.

[FanEagle]

I agree that biswap and Betfury has nothing in common or we are just not aware of any connections between the two. I understand that it may look like there is a connection due to the fact that BFG got listed there pretty easily, but to me biswap doesn't really look like a DEX that requires a lot to get listed to begin with, which means that it should be pretty easy to get listed there in the long run.

Obviously, it is not going to be something that I would be very much in love with if it were to come out to be true, but I think it is not and they are totally unrelated places. The signature campaign thing looks totally unrelated to each other and could be just that easy.

[babygun]

He uses the staking calculate feature I think and indeed in that feature only calculations are available with a minimum staking of 100K, but regardless of the number of tokens that can be staked from these calculations it proves that what the we gets from staking is not much and the staking will take more than 1 year to be able to get ROI unless BFG goes up very significantly

I get that; as I said before, I wouldn't just by the tokens to stake them. But I always like sites like this that give out dividends as at a certain moment, I will just play with my daily dividend. In that way, you don't need to put in more money and you will also generate more and more tokens and thus more dividend.

[traderethereum]

In case of altcoins, it is better to do day trading whether it is a utility token or a gambling site token. Because altcoins can have a major crash at any time.  Many such incidents have been seen.  So Altcoins cannot be a potential  investment for long term. So it is wise to gain small profits by day trading with altcoins. BFG token is a good token but not ready for long term investment yet

It may look promising for day trading using gambling site tokens but the problem is that the current market conditions are still uncertain and if you are not careful or get caught up in greed, you can suffer losses.
And once you start losing trading with altcoins, you will have to wait a while to see the price increase again.
I think BFG tokens can still be used as long-term investments, especially since other gambling tokens are also trying to survive on the market.
But whatever your choice, be it trading or investing in gambling tokens, you should think carefully because the risks are there.

If the current market conditions prevent you from trading or you are afraid that you will face losses by day trading now then avoid it.  But at this time if you make a long term investment then it might give you a big profit at one time but it is not guaranteed that the alt coin you invest in will survive till the altcoin market returns to good condition.  So whether you do day trading or long-term investment, research well and then do it be it gambling tokens or something else.

Researching to choose a coin or token is a must so that we know how big the risk is before we start investing.
Before starting trading, it's a good idea to master analytical skills to choose a coin to trade and determine when we can start trading.
But for now, I think trading altcoins is riskier because the movement depends on how bitcoin moves.
But let's hope that people investing in BFG tokens can benefit greatly when the altcoin season comes.

[coinerer]

In case of altcoins, it is better to do day trading whether it is a utility token or a gambling site token. Because altcoins can have a major crash at any time.  Many such incidents have been seen.  So Altcoins cannot be a potential  investment for long term. So it is wise to gain small profits by day trading with altcoins. BFG token is a good token but not ready for long term investment yet

It may look promising for day trading using gambling site tokens but the problem is that the current market conditions are still uncertain and if you are not careful or get caught up in greed, you can suffer losses.
And once you start losing trading with altcoins, you will have to wait a while to see the price increase again.
I think BFG tokens can still be used as long-term investments, especially since other gambling tokens are also trying to survive on the market.
But whatever your choice, be it trading or investing in gambling tokens, you should think carefully because the risks are there.

If the current market conditions prevent you from trading or you are afraid that you will face losses by day trading now then avoid it.  But at this time if you make a long term investment then it might give you a big profit at one time but it is not guaranteed that the alt coin you invest in will survive till the altcoin market returns to good condition.  So whether you do day trading or long-term investment, research well and then do it be it gambling tokens or something else.

Researching to choose a coin or token is a must so that we know how big the risk is before we start investing.
Before starting trading, it's a good idea to master analytical skills to choose a coin to trade and determine when we can start trading.
But for now, I think trading altcoins is riskier because the movement depends on how bitcoin moves.
But let's hope that people investing in BFG tokens can benefit greatly when the altcoin season comes.

Not everyone has the knowledge to do good analysis.  And not everyone can predict what the price of a token might be. Because of this, many traders use paid trading signals. And most investors have started focusing more on long term investments. Gambling platform tokens are also good for long-term investment if the site is owned by a large company and has a high reputation. BFG Token can be thought of in that regard

[Eternad]

Not everyone has the knowledge to do good analysis.  And not everyone can predict what the price of a token might be. Because of this, many traders use paid trading signals. And most investors have started focusing more on long term investments. Gambling platform tokens are also good for long-term investment if the site is owned by a large company and has a high reputation. BFG Token can be thought of in that regard

Actually, Gambling tokens is really designed for the long run investment because it’s price growth depends on the casino performance. The profit from the casino will be use to buy back slowly all those tokens that flooded the circulating supply through token rewards from the casino. It will take a long time for gambling tokens to have a consistent price growth once the hype is already over since the number of sellers from the casino players is too high compared to the buyer of the token.

Betfury casino success plays the most important role for the success of BFG tokens and a tough competition on the casino industry slows down the casino growth which reflects the current price of BFG tokens.

[o48o]

I get that; as I said before, I wouldn't just by the tokens to stake them. But I always like sites like this that give out dividends as at a certain moment, I will just play with my daily dividend. In that way, you don't need to put in more money and you will also generate more and more tokens and thus more dividend.

This made a sense at the time. Then i just had to keep playing to get more tokens to get as much dividends as i did last time. At some point i gave up as i felt it was more work then if i just bought the tokens. It was fun to win big sometimes but that was so rare i think i would have made more money just by selling the tokens in the first place.

But i totally understand why would people do that. It's fun if you are going to gamble anyway. It even keeps your budget in check. It just wasn't working for me as i was so unlucky with slots.

[dwyane36]

I agree that biswap and Betfury has nothing in common or we are just not aware of any connections between the two. I understand that it may look like there is a connection due to the fact that BFG got listed there pretty easily, but to me biswap doesn't really look like a DEX that requires a lot to get listed to begin with, which means that it should be pretty easy to get listed there in the long run.

Obviously, it is not going to be something that I would be very much in love with if it were to come out to be true, but I think it is not and they are totally unrelated places. The signature campaign thing looks totally unrelated to each other and could be just that easy.

Betfury developers prefer anonymity, while Biswap has at least some information on the team page, but it's pretty superficial. So we can only guess whether these two projects were made by the same people or not. The suspicion that these projects are somehow closely related to each other could be due to the fact that the first BFG listing was on Biswap, then they announced a strategic partnership. Moreover, in general, it seems that BFG has been promoted more on Biswap than on other DEXs and CEXs.

[electronicash]

I agree that biswap and Betfury has nothing in common or we are just not aware of any connections between the two. I understand that it may look like there is a connection due to the fact that BFG got listed there pretty easily, but to me biswap doesn't really look like a DEX that requires a lot to get listed to begin with, which means that it should be pretty easy to get listed there in the long run.

Obviously, it is not going to be something that I would be very much in love with if it were to come out to be true, but I think it is not and they are totally unrelated places. The signature campaign thing looks totally unrelated to each other and could be just that easy.

Betfury developers prefer anonymity, while Biswap has at least some information on the team page, but it's pretty superficial. So we can only guess whether these two projects were made by the same people or not. The suspicion that these projects are somehow closely related to each other could be due to the fact that the first BFG listing was on Biswap, then they announced a strategic partnership. Moreover, in general, it seems that BFG has been promoted more on Biswap than on other DEXs and CEXs.

strategic partnership between betfury and biswap. it's pretty obvious because BFG is featured on Biswap. it doesn't sound like it can affect the reputation or the price negatively.

i'm not aware how long they've been partners though, if investors have some data to look at in terms of growth because of the partnership, it will be useful for decision-making. the ones that we know are the earnings we get for staking 100K BFGs and more.

[len01]

-snip

I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

We can know the truth that they are not same owner  . They have an stategic partnership last year about BFG token list in Biswap and other feature that will highlight BFG tokens on Biswap exchange. You can read full article on the attached link below. Besides BFG first list on Pancakeswap and not on Biswap, they just add BFG later on after the partnership announcement.

The similarities of the promotion pattern is obvious because they are partner and they consult each other. Probably Biswap team was reached out by the Royse then he point out that Betfury launch same promotion here in the forum that’s why they are convinced to do the same program.

https://biswap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407351510545-Biswap-BetFury-Strategic-Partnership-

omg, i missed the news. Turns out it's true that BetFury and Biswap are doing a partnership and I really missed the news even though after I saw the news was published 7 months ago. Well, maybe I didn't pay much attention about gambling tokens so I skipped about the news.

but this is one of the good steps when BetFury can do partnership with the exchange project. it will reach more new people to know this BetFury platform. therefore BFG will be seen in the front row on the Biswap display.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

-snip

I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

We can know the truth that they are not same owner  . They have an stategic partnership last year about BFG token list in Biswap and other feature that will highlight BFG tokens on Biswap exchange. You can read full article on the attached link below. Besides BFG first list on Pancakeswap and not on Biswap, they just add BFG later on after the partnership announcement.

The similarities of the promotion pattern is obvious because they are partner and they consult each other. Probably Biswap team was reached out by the Royse then he point out that Betfury launch same promotion here in the forum that’s why they are convinced to do the same program.

https://biswap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407351510545-Biswap-BetFury-Strategic-Partnership-

omg, i missed the news. Turns out it's true that BetFury and Biswap are doing a partnership and I really missed the news even though after I saw the news was published 7 months ago. Well, maybe I didn't pay much attention about gambling tokens so I skipped about the news.

but this is one of the good steps when BetFury can do partnership with the exchange project. it will reach more new people to know this BetFury platform. therefore BFG will be seen in the front row on the Biswap display.

If i am not wrong, Betfury is not the first casino token to come up with this kind of partnership, think at some point, owl.games partnered with unifarm to give a staking opportunity to those holding their token, i don't know if that partnership is still in place right now, but then the price of owl token have really dropped from the price it was trading on during the partnership.

So Betfury partnering with Biswap is a good step, but another thing is that Biswap is still a very new dex exchange, its popular yet so i dont think this partnership will have any significant effect on the price of BFG token positively.

[babygun]

I agree that biswap and Betfury has nothing in common or we are just not aware of any connections between the two. I understand that it may look like there is a connection due to the fact that BFG got listed there pretty easily, but to me biswap doesn't really look like a DEX that requires a lot to get listed to begin with, which means that it should be pretty easy to get listed there in the long run.

Obviously, it is not going to be something that I would be very much in love with if it were to come out to be true, but I think it is not and they are totally unrelated places. The signature campaign thing looks totally unrelated to each other and could be just that easy.

Betfury developers prefer anonymity, while Biswap has at least some information on the team page, but it's pretty superficial. So we can only guess whether these two projects were made by the same people or not. The suspicion that these projects are somehow closely related to each other could be due to the fact that the first BFG listing was on Biswap, then they announced a strategic partnership. Moreover, in general, it seems that BFG has been promoted more on Biswap than on other DEXs and CEXs.

I think we can keep speculating if they are really related or not because of some similarities, but I remember a post from the representative of Betfury stating that they are not connected to Biswap and that both sites have 2 different teams.

[BobK71]

-snip

I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

We can know the truth that they are not same owner  . They have an stategic partnership last year about BFG token list in Biswap and other feature that will highlight BFG tokens on Biswap exchange. You can read full article on the attached link below. Besides BFG first list on Pancakeswap and not on Biswap, they just add BFG later on after the partnership announcement.

The similarities of the promotion pattern is obvious because they are partner and they consult each other. Probably Biswap team was reached out by the Royse then he point out that Betfury launch same promotion here in the forum that’s why they are convinced to do the same program.

https://biswap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407351510545-Biswap-BetFury-Strategic-Partnership-

omg, i missed the news. Turns out it's true that BetFury and Biswap are doing a partnership and I really missed the news even though after I saw the news was published 7 months ago. Well, maybe I didn't pay much attention about gambling tokens so I skipped about the news.

but this is one of the good steps when BetFury can do partnership with the exchange project. it will reach more new people to know this BetFury platform. therefore BFG will be seen in the front row on the Biswap display.

I also didn't see any news about BetFury and Biswap doing a partnership. However, if the partnership does happen, it will definitely be good news for BetFury Projection. The volatility of gambling token is relatively low, so investors generally have less exposure to these tokens. But when these tokens start to appear, the value of these coins will continue to increase. As far as I know BetFury is moving slowly but it is capable of big surprises at any time.

[Beparanf]

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I don't think Biswap and BFG are the same owner but they do have a partnership, maybe.
but in reality we don't know the truth it's just that we like to guess whatever we see. and in my opinion whether Biswap with BFG have the same owner or not is not a problem for gamblers who are on the Betfury platform. it's just that if it's true that it's the same owner, chances are there will only be a small surprise that BFG and Biswap will give.

We can know the truth that they are not same owner  . They have an stategic partnership last year about BFG token list in Biswap and other feature that will highlight BFG tokens on Biswap exchange. You can read full article on the attached link below. Besides BFG first list on Pancakeswap and not on Biswap, they just add BFG later on after the partnership announcement.

The similarities of the promotion pattern is obvious because they are partner and they consult each other. Probably Biswap team was reached out by the Royse then he point out that Betfury launch same promotion here in the forum that’s why they are convinced to do the same program.

https://biswap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407351510545-Biswap-BetFury-Strategic-Partnership-

omg, i missed the news. Turns out it's true that BetFury and Biswap are doing a partnership and I really missed the news even though after I saw the news was published 7 months ago. Well, maybe I didn't pay much attention about gambling tokens so I skipped about the news.

but this is one of the good steps when BetFury can do partnership with the exchange project. it will reach more new people to know this BetFury platform. therefore BFG will be seen in the front row on the Biswap display.

I also didn't see any news about BetFury and Biswap doing a partnership. However, if the partnership does happen, it will definitely be good news for BetFury Projection. The volatility of gambling token is relatively low, so investors generally have less exposure to these tokens. But when these tokens start to appear, the value of these coins will continue to increase. As far as I know BetFury is moving slowly but it is capable of big surprises at any time.

If you read the article I provide to brought up this partnership you will notice that this happened last year. I believe Betfury experienced a sudden price movement and volume that time since Biswap gives a special APY for staking BFG tokens in their exchange. But this partnership cause bunch of BFG tokens since they gave Biswap user a BFG token airdrop as a reward for their partnership. I think this is the reason why the price of BFG tokens didn’t grow that much because the team keep spending BFG tokens for their marketing instead of the money they earn in the casino to promote their token.

[o48o]

What's the deal with the roadmap? Why is the last thing in it Q4 2022? It's like they gave up any future plans.
Also i've tried to look for more info about BFG tokens and i am still not sure how the burned tokens are aquired to be burned? Are those happening only when people are losing bfg by gambling and auctioning them, or is the team burning their own tokens as well. And if so how much are they going to burn in total?

[Fredomago]

I agree that biswap and Betfury has nothing in common or we are just not aware of any connections between the two. I understand that it may look like there is a connection due to the fact that BFG got listed there pretty easily, but to me biswap doesn't really look like a DEX that requires a lot to get listed to begin with, which means that it should be pretty easy to get listed there in the long run.

Obviously, it is not going to be something that I would be very much in love with if it were to come out to be true, but I think it is not and they are totally unrelated places. The signature campaign thing looks totally unrelated to each other and could be just that easy.

Betfury developers prefer anonymity, while Biswap has at least some information on the team page, but it's pretty superficial. So we can only guess whether these two projects were made by the same people or not. The suspicion that these projects are somehow closely related to each other could be due to the fact that the first BFG listing was on Biswap, then they announced a strategic partnership. Moreover, in general, it seems that BFG has been promoted more on Biswap than on other DEXs and CEXs.

I think we can keep speculating if they are really related or not because of some similarities, but I member a post from the representative of Betfury stating that they are not connected to Biswap and that both sites have 2 different teams.

And maybe it's better for someone from Betfury team to answer this speculation just to confirm whatever the relationship if there's something in between or if there's none it's also better for them give update to the community to remove the speculation behind, more on the side of Betfury to either confirm or deny this information.