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[babygun]

The wager requirements for free boxes would have been a good decision if Betfury had kept everything as it was. However, Betfury decided otherwise, and it seems that free boxes only for rank 2 users and above are a more optimal solution for them in the fight against abusers. Even if we assume that some abusers can reach rank 2, there will be only a few such abusers of their total number, which means they can easily be detected and blocked by Betfury.

Wagering requirements would indeed also be a good idea. Since the beginning, the boxes were able for level 1 but initially the rewards were a lot higher and more interesting. They kept dropping the amount you got collect but guess it didn't really help to weed out the abusers so there are now taking extra steps by making it only available for rank 2 and upwards.

[len01]

The wager requirements for free boxes would have been a good decision if Betfury had kept everything as it was. However, Betfury decided otherwise, and it seems that free boxes only for rank 2 users and above are a more optimal solution for them in the fight against abusers. Even if we assume that some abusers can reach rank 2, there will be only a few such abusers of their total number, which means they can easily be detected and blocked by Betfury.

Wagering requirements would indeed also be a good idea. Since the beginning, the boxes were able for level 1 but initially the rewards were a lot higher and more interesting. They kept dropping the amount you got collect but guess it didn't really help to weed out the abusers so there are now taking extra steps by making it only available for rank 2 and upwards.

as far as I know wagering requirements are a great way to get rid of bonus abuse in any casino and they are now used by all casinos that offer bonuses on their platform.
and sometimes if the wagering requirements are too easy to achieve, they are also vulnerable to abuse by irresponsible people and worsen the development of casinos.

so for me BetFury provides a bonus with wagering requirements, that's very easy to achieve if you really enjoy your game session.

[o48o]

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Faucet is meant only to try the casino feature and not as a source of profit. User that staying on the casino for this kind of mere bonuses usually doesn’t play at all just and just leeching the casino.

Yeah i find this a difficult concept. I definitely see it as a source of profit because what would be other reasons any site would have have it? What's the difference of being a feature and source of income?
People wouldn't use faucets as source of income years ago even though they paid good money in these days standard.

I only see it being abused when it's done by bots, not by poor users clicking it daily.

[ethereumhunter]

\Or, BetFury has decreased their faucet budget That is actually a joke. I doubt that there are many level 1 gamblers who have tried to abuse the system. It is so easy for security to check logs and connect similar IPs with account logins. If on level 2 you get 42 sat hourly or 1k daily, then how much do they get on level 1 ? Much less. It will take a lot of time to claim enough to pay numerous VPN subscriptions. After all, level 1 have FunFury faucet. They can still try luck in Fury Wheel.

You'd be surprised, many would rather risk their accounts by running automated scripts just for mere fractions of a cent.

Agreed, when there is free money, even if is a very low amount, you will have a lot of abusers. To be honest, this was a move that was always going to happen sooner or later as it is a good and effective way to limit the abuse. To become vip 2, you need to wager 3000$ which is not so easy to achieve also allthough you will probably still have people that will try to abuse the system.

Free money will surely make many people interested in getting it many times, even if they have to break the rules or abuse it. But if we want to play for the long term and the casino is one of our choices for gambling, it will not be worth doing because it will have the risk of being blocked by the casino against our account. We definitely won't be able to get that free money every day anymore because the casinos don't allow us to be in their place. And the casino could easily find those cheaters and kick them out of their place.

Free money definitely attracts users but it is not always available it is only given by some site to shill their site but no site gives free drops, spins or other bonuses for long time. So the users are more attracted to the sites which provide bonus facility for a longer period of time. But casino sites offer more bonus facilities to those users who deposit high amounts and gamble regularly. that is the great  strategy of there to bring gamblers on there site

That can entice users to keep trying to get it because they think it's okay if the free prize money is small, but they can get everything else from the site for free too. And over time, what they get can get bigger and maybe some of them use it as a bet and can get more coins. That means they don't need to deposit their coins but only use the free capital from the site. And it's true if a user deposits a certain amount of money into his gambling account, the casino will provide other bonuses that can entice users to continue playing gambling.

[klidex]

\Or, BetFury has decreased their faucet budget That is actually a joke. I doubt that there are many level 1 gamblers who have tried to abuse the system. It is so easy for security to check logs and connect similar IPs with account logins. If on level 2 you get 42 sat hourly or 1k daily, then how much do they get on level 1 ? Much less. It will take a lot of time to claim enough to pay numerous VPN subscriptions. After all, level 1 have FunFury faucet. They can still try luck in Fury Wheel.

You'd be surprised, many would rather risk their accounts by running automated scripts just for mere fractions of a cent.

Agreed, when there is free money, even if is a very low amount, you will have a lot of abusers. To be honest, this was a move that was always going to happen sooner or later as it is a good and effective way to limit the abuse. To become vip 2, you need to wager 3000$ which is not so easy to achieve also allthough you will probably still have people that will try to abuse the system.

Free money will surely make many people interested in getting it many times, even if they have to break the rules or abuse it. But if we want to play for the long term and the casino is one of our choices for gambling, it will not be worth doing because it will have the risk of being blocked by the casino against our account. We definitely won't be able to get that free money every day anymore because the casinos don't allow us to be in their place. And the casino could easily find those cheaters and kick them out of their place.

Free money definitely attracts users but it is not always available it is only given by some site to shill their site but no site gives free drops, spins or other bonuses for long time. So the users are more attracted to the sites which provide bonus facility for a longer period of time. But casino sites offer more bonus facilities to those users who deposit high amounts and gamble regularly. that is the great  strategy of there to bring gamblers on there site

That can entice users to keep trying to get it because they think it's okay if the free prize money is small, but they can get everything else from the site for free too. And over time, what they get can get bigger and maybe some of them use it as a bet and can get more coins. That means they don't need to deposit their coins but only use the free capital from the site. And it's true if a user deposits a certain amount of money into his gambling account, the casino will provide other bonuses that can entice users to continue playing gambling.

Yes, some gamblers definitely want and are interested in free bonus money or free bonus tokens to be able to play at the casino.
But as you said, making a deposit of some money to the casino to be able to get free bonus money can't be obtained and done by all gamblers because of course each deposit bonus has a minimum deposit amount which is definitely not small either.
I often see that there are deposit bonus promotions at several well-known casinos, but they provide a minimum deposit of $ 200 to $ 500 and I think that amount is quite a lot for some small gamblers like me. Although what you can get is quite a lot, but with that amount you will feel very heavy if used for deposits at a casino.
It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

[Strongkored]

It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

Small gamblers like us have to look for casinos that also apply a small minimum deposit to be able to participate in their bonuses, indeed seeing bonus promotions are very tempting for gamblers especially if the casino also applies low rules so that the opportunities for players to withdraw the money are very large but that is very rare to find.

[Slow death]

BFG is a safe haven in the world of cryptocurrency. I think this token will not bring huge profits, but it will not let your deposit go into a big loss. Another thing to consider is that storing BFG on a Betfury wallet pays dividends every day. Such conditions are very attractive for beginner investors as well as for professional ones.

I don't think it's a good idea. At some point, you may be tempted to increase your funds through gaming activity on the platform.
There are also risks of losing your money if the casino disappears.

there is always a risk of putting money anywhere in a third party such as a casino or an exchange, actually if it is for long term investment it is better to keep it in a personal wallet to make it safer, but if the token is to be played in a casino there is no problem to keep it there too

even if you or anyone else buys a casino currency and keeps it in a wallet, they will not be out of danger of losing everything, because if the casino goes bankrupt or the casino owners disappear, then that currency you bought will have zero value in a few hours, if we look at the casino market we realize that every year many new casinos appear and with that this market starts to become saturated, to the point that some casinos go bankrupt, by that I mean that it makes no sense for someone to buy casino currency to hold a long term if this person doesnt like their money and wants to lose money then this person will buy casino currency and do hodl and lose everything i just dont understand why someone buy these high risk altcoins while they can buy bitcoin which is safer

It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

Small gamblers like us have to look for casinos that also apply a small minimum deposit to be able to participate in their bonuses, indeed seeing bonus promotions are very tempting for gamblers especially if the casino also applies low rules so that the opportunities for players to withdraw the money are very large but that is very rare to find.

I know that a casino is a business in which the guy who creates the casino wants to make a profit, he has operating costs that he has to pay, but lately the requirements that casinos have placed for people to claim the bonus have been very high requirements and almost impossible to be fulfilled, it reached the level that even the scammers are offering high bonuses only for people who make big deposits, but even the damn scammers put high requirements for the bonus, maybe the right thing would be not to offer the bonus when they know that no one will be able to claim, many people even don't care about the bonus anymore because they know there's no way to get it

[arwin100]

It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

Small gamblers like us have to look for casinos that also apply a small minimum deposit to be able to participate in their bonuses, indeed seeing bonus promotions are very tempting for gamblers especially if the casino also applies low rules so that the opportunities for players to withdraw the money are very large but that is very rare to find.

Good to have small minimum deposit to acquire some bonuses since we can enjoy that even if we are not a whale. But imagine how big the problem they can get due to possible abuse which rampantly happen on some casino before and they might really get a huge problem with this.

This is why somehow its good that casino require some big requirements since it cannot disturb their operation and us regular gamblers can use their platform without any disturbance coming from this issues.

[coinerer]

\Or, BetFury has decreased their faucet budget That is actually a joke. I doubt that there are many level 1 gamblers who have tried to abuse the system. It is so easy for security to check logs and connect similar IPs with account logins. If on level 2 you get 42 sat hourly or 1k daily, then how much do they get on level 1 ? Much less. It will take a lot of time to claim enough to pay numerous VPN subscriptions. After all, level 1 have FunFury faucet. They can still try luck in Fury Wheel.

You'd be surprised, many would rather risk their accounts by running automated scripts just for mere fractions of a cent.

Agreed, when there is free money, even if is a very low amount, you will have a lot of abusers. To be honest, this was a move that was always going to happen sooner or later as it is a good and effective way to limit the abuse. To become vip 2, you need to wager 3000$ which is not so easy to achieve also allthough you will probably still have people that will try to abuse the system.

Free money will surely make many people interested in getting it many times, even if they have to break the rules or abuse it. But if we want to play for the long term and the casino is one of our choices for gambling, it will not be worth doing because it will have the risk of being blocked by the casino against our account. We definitely won't be able to get that free money every day anymore because the casinos don't allow us to be in their place. And the casino could easily find those cheaters and kick them out of their place.

Free money definitely attracts users but it is not always available it is only given by some site to shill their site but no site gives free drops, spins or other bonuses for long time. So the users are more attracted to the sites which provide bonus facility for a longer period of time. But casino sites offer more bonus facilities to those users who deposit high amounts and gamble regularly. that is the great  strategy of there to bring gamblers on there site

That can entice users to keep trying to get it because they think it's okay if the free prize money is small, but they can get everything else from the site for free too. And over time, what they get can get bigger and maybe some of them use it as a bet and can get more coins. That means they don't need to deposit their coins but only use the free capital from the site. And it's true if a user deposits a certain amount of money into his gambling account, the casino will provide other bonuses that can entice users to continue playing gambling.

Yes, some gamblers definitely want and are interested in free bonus money or free bonus tokens to be able to play at the casino.
But as you said, making a deposit of some money to the casino to be able to get free bonus money can't be obtained and done by all gamblers because of course each deposit bonus has a minimum deposit amount which is definitely not small either.
I often see that there are deposit bonus promotions at several well-known casinos, but they provide a minimum deposit of $ 200 to $ 500 and I think that amount is quite a lot for some small gamblers like me. Although what you can get is quite a lot, but with that amount you will feel very heavy if used for deposits at a casino.
It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

It is rare to see such casino sites where the minimum deposit amount is kept at $200-$500. Because the minimum deposit amount in almost all casinos today starts from $1. Which is within the ability of all gamblers.  And all gamblers big and small are able to gamble there. And gamblers are more attracted to these casino sites. But gamblers don't want to be too attracted to casino sites that have high minimum deposit limitation

[Beparanf]

It is rare to see such casino sites where the minimum deposit amount is kept at $200-$500. Because the minimum deposit amount in almost all casinos today starts from $1. Which is within the ability of all gamblers.  And all gamblers big and small are able to gamble there. And gamblers are more attracted to these casino sites. But gamblers don't want to be too attracted to casino sites that have high minimum deposit limitation

Next time try to trim your quoted post especially if it’s already a wall of multiple quoted post which the majority of it is not the one you are replying. It’s an eyesore to such kind of wall of quotes.

I think he is pertaining on the minimum deposit to be eligible for the bonus and not the general minimum deposit. I believe he just might overlook the rules since of the casino that offers deposit bonus usually indicates up to 200$ to 500$ bonus deposit and not the minimum. Setting this kind of high minimum deposit is absurd.

[FanEagle]

\Or, BetFury has decreased their faucet budget That is actually a joke. I doubt that there are many level 1 gamblers who have tried to abuse the system. It is so easy for security to check logs and connect similar IPs with account logins. If on level 2 you get 42 sat hourly or 1k daily, then how much do they get on level 1 ? Much less. It will take a lot of time to claim enough to pay numerous VPN subscriptions. After all, level 1 have FunFury faucet. They can still try luck in Fury Wheel.

You'd be surprised, many would rather risk their accounts by running automated scripts just for mere fractions of a cent.

Agreed, when there is free money, even if is a very low amount, you will have a lot of abusers. To be honest, this was a move that was always going to happen sooner or later as it is a good and effective way to limit the abuse. To become vip 2, you need to wager 3000$ which is not so easy to achieve also allthough you will probably still have people that will try to abuse the system.

I am not going to say the name of the place, but I remember one of the earliest casinos of crypto had a free faucet where you would claim 10k satoshis, which wasn't much at the time, considering bitcoin itself was like 100 bucks, and people literally abused it to a million pieces, they had to remove it. That shows that this type of abuse has been going on for 10+ years or so, it is not new and it was expected.

It's good that betfury stayed as long as they did, most places wouldn't even be able to stand this long, I enjoyed it when it lasted, but I think I will be getting it anyway with the rank and all, and the money I make from the staking itself is good enough to gamble without deposit anyway.

[ethereumhunter]

\Or, BetFury has decreased their faucet budget That is actually a joke. I doubt that there are many level 1 gamblers who have tried to abuse the system. It is so easy for security to check logs and connect similar IPs with account logins. If on level 2 you get 42 sat hourly or 1k daily, then how much do they get on level 1 ? Much less. It will take a lot of time to claim enough to pay numerous VPN subscriptions. After all, level 1 have FunFury faucet. They can still try luck in Fury Wheel.

You'd be surprised, many would rather risk their accounts by running automated scripts just for mere fractions of a cent.

Agreed, when there is free money, even if is a very low amount, you will have a lot of abusers. To be honest, this was a move that was always going to happen sooner or later as it is a good and effective way to limit the abuse. To become vip 2, you need to wager 3000$ which is not so easy to achieve also allthough you will probably still have people that will try to abuse the system.

Free money will surely make many people interested in getting it many times, even if they have to break the rules or abuse it. But if we want to play for the long term and the casino is one of our choices for gambling, it will not be worth doing because it will have the risk of being blocked by the casino against our account. We definitely won't be able to get that free money every day anymore because the casinos don't allow us to be in their place. And the casino could easily find those cheaters and kick them out of their place.

Free money definitely attracts users but it is not always available it is only given by some site to shill their site but no site gives free drops, spins or other bonuses for long time. So the users are more attracted to the sites which provide bonus facility for a longer period of time. But casino sites offer more bonus facilities to those users who deposit high amounts and gamble regularly. that is the great  strategy of there to bring gamblers on there site

That can entice users to keep trying to get it because they think it's okay if the free prize money is small, but they can get everything else from the site for free too. And over time, what they get can get bigger and maybe some of them use it as a bet and can get more coins. That means they don't need to deposit their coins but only use the free capital from the site. And it's true if a user deposits a certain amount of money into his gambling account, the casino will provide other bonuses that can entice users to continue playing gambling.

Yes, some gamblers definitely want and are interested in free bonus money or free bonus tokens to be able to play at the casino.
But as you said, making a deposit of some money to the casino to be able to get free bonus money can't be obtained and done by all gamblers because of course each deposit bonus has a minimum deposit amount which is definitely not small either.
I often see that there are deposit bonus promotions at several well-known casinos, but they provide a minimum deposit of $ 200 to $ 500 and I think that amount is quite a lot for some small gamblers like me. Although what you can get is quite a lot, but with that amount you will feel very heavy if used for deposits at a casino.
It would be better for casinos to provide promotions that are easier and only use a small amount of money so that small gamblers can also feel the benefits of the bonuses that are given.

Yes, it will depend on the financial budget that we have set. If the minimum deposit exceeds the budget, we don't need to deposit it just to get the bonus, but only deposit enough. But some people want to try to deposit more to get that bonus because they see the bonus as very tempting, so they decide to deposit more to get it. Maybe we can try it occasionally if we want to try to get a bigger bonus. But it is not worth doing if our gambling budget is limited.

[coinerer]

it will depend on the financial budget that we have set. If the minimum deposit exceeds the budget, we don't need to deposit it just to get the bonus, but only deposit enough. But some people want to try to deposit more to get that bonus because they see the bonus as very tempting, so they decide to deposit more to get it. Maybe we can try it occasionally if we want to try to get a bigger bonus. But it is not worth doing if our gambling budget is limited.

Regular gamblers always want to get good bonuses and enjoy various facilities, but those who gamble just for fun don't care about the minimum dollar deposit bonus a gambling site offers.  Because those who gamble for fun only deposit a small amount and continue their entertainment. Their aim is only to have fun. Their aim is not to pass any VIP level or get any big bonus or any big prize. That's the point. So regular gamblers and professional gamblers are ready to deposit large amounts to receive the bonus.

[Fredomago]

it will depend on the financial budget that we have set. If the minimum deposit exceeds the budget, we don't need to deposit it just to get the bonus, but only deposit enough. But some people want to try to deposit more to get that bonus because they see the bonus as very tempting, so they decide to deposit more to get it. Maybe we can try it occasionally if we want to try to get a bigger bonus. But it is not worth doing if our gambling budget is limited.

Regular gamblers always want to get good bonuses and enjoy various facilities, but those who gamble just for fun don't care about the minimum dollar deposit bonus a gambling site offers.  Because those who gamble for fun only deposit a small amount and continue their entertainment. Their aim is only to have fun. Their aim is not to pass any VIP level or get any big bonus or any big prize. That's the point. So regular gamblers and professional gamblers are ready to deposit large amounts to receive the bonus.

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

[babygun]

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

I am a regular gambler, my goal is really having fun and getting the excitement when placing (small) bets. I always look when a site offers a deposit bonus, but most of the times the requirements are pretty high and than I let it pass by. Their are some exceptions as they are sites that have a different system to unlock the bonus and than it becomes interesting.

[xSkylarx]

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

I am a regular gambler, my goal is really having fun and getting the excitement when placing (small) bets. I always look when a site offers a deposit bonus, but most of the times the requirements are pretty high and than I let it pass by. Their are some exceptions as they are sites that have a different system to unlock the bonus and than it becomes interesting.

Bonuses are mostly for those who are heavy gamblers, like betting a lot, because most of the bonuses for existing gamblers are rare and there are requirements to reach, like bet with 0.1 BTC to qualify. That is why most bonuses are only for new users, as it is their marketing to attract customers. Though mostly raffles are implemented so that old customers can join and have a chance to win huge if they get lucky, again, it is for marketing purposes. Gambling is a business, so they still need to earn profit before giving it back to their customers.

[virasog]

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

I am a regular gambler, my goal is really having fun and getting the excitement when placing (small) bets. I always look when a site offers a deposit bonus, but most of the times the requirements are pretty high and than I let it pass by. Their are some exceptions as they are sites that have a different system to unlock the bonus and than it becomes interesting.

If you play gambling for fun, you won't care much about the bonuses and will tend to deposit and gamble. Since we are talking about this in the betfury thread, it is a good site for fun.
Those whose aim is to get some free money for gambling, they will make use of bonuses and gambling sites rightly protect their interest by giving some tough wagering requirements so that these bonuses are not misused.

[Fredomago]

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

I am a regular gambler, my goal is really having fun and getting the excitement when placing (small) bets. I always look when a site offers a deposit bonus, but most of the times the requirements are pretty high and than I let it pass by. Their are some exceptions as they are sites that have a different system to unlock the bonus and than it becomes interesting.

If you play gambling for fun, you won't care much about the bonuses and will tend to deposit and gamble. Since we are talking about this in the betfury thread, it is a good site for fun.
Those whose aim is to get some free money for gambling, they will make use of bonuses and gambling sites rightly protect their interest by giving some tough wagering requirements so that these bonuses are not misused.

I agree, the site will do that to protect their business, even they are providing it as part of a welcome bonus, but the requirements for wagering huge amount should be complete before you can take it out from the site.

It would be depending to how a gambler will think about it and how they will maximize the use of this kind of bonus if they choose to activate or if they choose not, there's no problem as long as they are enjoying the game and they are trusting the platform.

[Tumanggor]

yeah different perspectives and intentions, your argument is true, if a gambler is just aiming to have some fun using their spare money they are just going to deposit and they will not mind about any deposit bonuses, while for those who are regular and heavy gamers they will take advantages of casino offers regarding to VIP's.

They will aim for that to achieve those additional perks that the house is offering and make a good use of it while using the house platform/services.

I am a regular gambler, my goal is really having fun and getting the excitement when placing (small) bets. I always look when a site offers a deposit bonus, but most of the times the requirements are pretty high and than I let it pass by. Their are some exceptions as they are sites that have a different system to unlock the bonus and than it becomes interesting.

deposit bonuses always provide a big temptation for players and I also always take advantage of the event if there is an opportunity

Even though I don't play too often at Betfury, they have a good system and planing that keeps going well. I hope that the deposit bonus will always be one of the events held by all online gambling sites, especially Betfury

[len01]

If you play gambling for fun, you won't care much about the bonuses and will tend to deposit and gamble. Since we are talking about this in the betfury thread, it is a good site for fun.
Those whose aim is to get some free money for gambling, they will make use of bonuses and gambling sites rightly protect their interest by giving some tough wagering requirements so that these bonuses are not misused.

not just for fun. at BetFury besides users can have fun by enjoying every betting session, BetFury customers can also benefit from these bonuses. so that when you are betting while having fun, you also indirectly complete the betting requirements to get the bonus.
so BetFury customers not only have fun when betting but also benefit from bonuses that are always given by BetFury.
and BetFury also fully reserves the right to provide wagering conditions to prevent frequent cheating or bonus abuse.