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[wiss19]

I understand that religious reasons are part of a country's traditions, and in countries where the government gave money and people spent it in casinos, the government has no business interfering.

I say that if you're given money, that money becomes part of you, and you, as a person, decide how to spend it, Governments do harm when they try to interfere in these matters.

 I feel this way because I come from a country that I feel took away many of my freedoms, which is why I love casinosbecause I decide whether to spend money or not, and how much.

Not only in your country. It's worth noting that regulators can come up with a lot of reasons to justify why they decided to restrict gambling or something else they don't like. It's trite, but for regulators in many countries, it’s easier and cheaper to ban something than to actually figure it out and offer an alternative.

Liberalism is dying because of this. Gambling getting banned because it can "lead to bankruptcy and losing money" is something people should decide for themselves. It can cause a ton of people to go bankrupt, that's true, you can make it so legal that every corner of street could have a small casino, and yet you should not make it illegal because it's literally people deciding for themselves. They did the same for many drugs, look at it now, streets are filled with drug addicts, as you can see banning it doesn't work, you just push people to illegal places.

Casinos being illegal, gambling being illegal, means that only illegal companies can help you gamble, but make it legal and you can have government regulated casinos.

[hero_the_bossman]

^ Loopholes will be found eventually around any restriction; in fact, only the punishment would differ.

So, yeah, it's totally true.

[gunhell16]

Definitely gambling ban is always easy meanwhile creating an alternative might be stressful in terms of regulating. I’m curious after gambling ban do citizens actually follow the law never to gamble till further notice or governments set some major rule if going against this law the person will be punished because in many situation when gambling is ban citizens still find other means to fulfill their desires, gambling is totally different how can someone get caught in the process.

Some gamblers will surely stop playing due to restrictions imposed by regulators, while others will try to circumvent these limitations by any means possible. It's worth noting that if a country isn't on a platform’s restricted list, the platform may still provide access solutions for users. For example, Betfury offers several mirror sites for this purpose.

Oh yeah, I've noticed that too in other casino platforms here in the crypto gambling industry, dude. When their users can't access their casino, they provide options
with links that are actually mirror sites.

I remember when I first learned about this, I was skeptical because I thought they might be phishing links, but they're not really, since other casinos
or platforms in the crypto space we deal with do this too.

[danadc]

Finally, there are users who have wagered several million on Betfury, but there are many reasons why they don't talk about it in public.

Wow, I'd love to reach that level. It's a huge skill Many people on the forum are like that; we don't know what they do in the games, how they play, or how much they bet. It's natural that they don't want to admit they make those kinds of bets. If I did, I'd also stay anonymous, and it's much better that way, Betfury attracts clients with a lot of potential.

[LeyMonte]

I understand that religious reasons are part of a country's traditions, and in countries where the government gave money and people spent it in casinos, the government has no business interfering.

I say that if you're given money, that money becomes part of you, and you, as a person, decide how to spend it, Governments do harm when they try to interfere in these matters.

Well, it seems to me that when you or I are given money, can anyone tell us how we will spend it later? Or do you think it is necessary to share this with anyone? In fact, no matter where we get the money from, how we use it is our personal matter.
No one should interfere here because after receiving the money, no one is told how to spend it. If you see that the government comes to inquire about that money after giving it then you will think that there is some problem here or some kind of corruption is being tried.

[Zanab247]

Finally, there are users who have wagered several million on Betfury, but there are many reasons why they don't talk about it in public.

Wow, I'd love to reach that level. It's a huge skill Many people on the forum are like that; we don't know what they do in the games, how they play, or how much they bet. It's natural that they don't want to admit they make those kinds of bets. If I did, I'd also stay anonymous, and it's much better that way, Betfury attracts clients with a lot of potential.

Hahahaha, do you know how much they have lose before they win million from Betfury , just that people don't announce their lost in public but some people like to spread their winning in public. I have not lose much in Betfury but there is a hope that my news will break out soon, because I believe in luck in any decision i am  taking in playing sport betting.

Not that they don't want to tell people about their winning that   made them a millionaire  from Betfury, but they are afraid of the public because they don't know who will be after their lifes or their personal details.

[xandry]

If we can't gamble because it is prohibits, we don't have to try because the risks will be there. We can use our time doing other things that more safer than gambling. We can't moves to other countries to playing gambling because that is not worth it. Playing gambling or not, that is a choice and if the law prohibit us for playing gambling, we don't have to gamble. We can live well without gambling so we can enjoy it by doing many positive things.

That's not so. If your country's government bans online casino games that don't have a proper tax license, then there's nothing stopping you from using a VPN. Casino website owners are well aware of this and do not prohibit access to their services, even if you are undergoing KYC in Turkey or Russia, where these sites are prohibited.

I don't know about staking, but it's always better to hold Bitcoin long term, not tokens or stablecoins.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

[serjent05]

If we can't gamble because it is prohibits, we don't have to try because the risks will be there. We can use our time doing other things that more safer than gambling. We can't moves to other countries to playing gambling because that is not worth it. Playing gambling or not, that is a choice and if the law prohibit us for playing gambling, we don't have to gamble. We can live well without gambling so we can enjoy it by doing many positive things.

That's not so. If your country's government bans online casino games that don't have a proper tax license, then there's nothing stopping you from using a VPN. Casino website owners are well aware of this and do not prohibit access to their services, even if you are undergoing KYC in Turkey or Russia, where these sites are prohibited.

I think as long as the casino does not restrict the country, people from that country, even if their government bans the platform, can still access and play in the platform.  They can deposit and withdraw normally since the casino still allow people from the country to access their site.

But if the casino implement the restrictions, even if the country does not ban the casino platform, these people are not allowed to play on the site.

I don't know about staking, but it's always better to hold Bitcoin long term, not tokens or stablecoins.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

I do not think he will sell BTC at a lost, since he said he is in for a long term, he would not sell his BTC at a loss.  He had waited for a long time, I think he won't mind to wait longer just to get more profit.

[BetFury.com]

AMA session with Steve, ask a question — Share 10,000 BFG

Got questions about BetFury? Let’s discuss them during the AMA!
➤ When: December 17, 12:00 UTC
➤ Speaker: @Steve_BetFury
➤ Where: @BetFury

For details click here

[examplens]

Hmm, your reply doesn't really make too much sense. Their post was made IN THIS FORUM, so it addresses FORUM MEMBERS, doesn't it? Why else post it here?

I came back to their post again, and I didn't see that the challenge they are promoting is exclusive only to members of this forum. Also, I assume that they shared the same on other marketing channels, and Bitcointalk is just one of them. This is not only the case with Betfury, but also with all other casinos.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

If...
If you bought Bitcoin on 11/19/2023 when it cost $37k and sold it today, you would be in a huge plus. Tell me which token could offer something similar?

[Zwei]

My country has very strict gambling regulations, because many people who were receiving money from the government for social assistance just gambled everything.

So government banned many gambling websites , trying to make people spend that money in their basic needs and their family's... I dont think that is effective, but this is how it played out...

If the government were to credit the funds into the citizens' identification cards to only be used at grocery stores or supermarkets, that would actually solve most, if not all of the gambling issue.

this is definitely a better approach than a ban, as that never works, never will work imo.
but i know damn well that people who were spending that money gambling instead of buying food won't stop, they will just buy groceries, sell them somewhere for a discount, get the money, and gamble it away.

[danadc]

Not that they don't want to tell people about their winning that   made them a millionaire  from Betfury, but they are afraid of the public because they don't know who will be after their lifes or their personal details.

Well, what you're saying here is true What scares me most is that people with that kind of money might be discovered thanks to their data. It's good that these kinds of Debates happen There are players who come in and start looking for the best options for the casino, Those who lose the most don't talk about it either I'm not ashamed to say that I've lost a lot of money I've played quite a bit on Betfury and I've lost maybe more than I've won, but not at a millionaire level.

[dwyane36]

Well, what you're saying here is true What scares me most is that people with that kind of money might be discovered thanks to their data. It's good that these kinds of Debates happen There are players who come in and start looking for the best options for the casino, Those who lose the most don't talk about it either I'm not ashamed to say that I've lost a lot of money I've played quite a bit on Betfury and I've lost maybe more than I've won, but not at a millionaire level.

You're clearly not the only one who has lost a lot on gambling. In fact, there are significantly more people who lose than win. It's normal that in the long run, gamblers will be at a loss, while individual wins, whether on Betfury or any other gambling platform, are always a matter of luck.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

If...
If you bought Bitcoin on 11/19/2023 when it cost $37k and sold it today, you would be in a huge plus. Tell me which token could offer something similar?

Well, for example, if you had bought ZEC instead of BTC and just held it for the same period, you would have earned much more now.

[hero_the_bossman]

^ Many tokens grew more than BTC in 3x times in price, but not many of them are still there today to tell the tale. And BTC, as the safest coin out there, is still the best one when it comes to just hodling it.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

AMA session with Steve, ask a question — Share 10,000 BFG

Got questions about BetFury? Let’s discuss them during the AMA!
➤ When: December 17, 12:00 UTC
➤ Speaker: @Steve_BetFury
➤ Where: @BetFury

LOL, 10000 BFG ? That's a "whopping" 118$ you are sharing with your community, how generous. What's next, making a contest where 100 winners can win 100 BFG? Sounds like a lot of fun.  

By the way, betfury "invited" me in their VIP transfer program, and it is BAD!! I cancelled it after not even 30 hours, haha.
You can open some "chambers" for 7 days, and the first 2 was a deposit bonus (with 35x rollover) and 100$ in free spins with min deposit of 100$ and 40x rollover. What are they thinking?? After that I have seen enough. No advantage whatsoever, only 2% more loss back compared to my level (I am level 8, VIP is level 10 so I am close anyway). At stake by the way I have 15% loss back, and you get it instantly.
Also, to keep the VIP transfer you have to wager 200k within 30 days. So basically no rewards other than things that require deposits and huge rollovers of 35-40x your deposit (200x if you wager on originals), you lose out on level up bonuses and you would get while getting to VIP 10 the normal way. The VIP host by the way is rude, gives false informations and doesn't give a damn.

This was the email:

We’re thrilled to welcome you to the BetFury VIP Club. Your Transfer Request has been approved, and you're now part of an exclusive group of high-rollers and game-changers.

✨ Here's what’s waiting for you:

● Premium daily bonuses & cashbacks.   -> premium daily bonuses don't exist

● Personalized rewards curated for your style.  -> doesn't exist as well

● Priority support from your own VIP Transfer Manager. -> priority means leaving mid conversation for 90 minutes?

● And much more — starting NOW.

⏳ Your 7-day bonus window is already counting down. Don’t miss a moment — exclusive daily chambers packed with luxury rewards are now unlocked just for you. -> luxury rewards aka deposit bonus/free spins for deposit + 40x rollover  

Stay away from this one, not worth the time or stress.

[leonair]

^ Many tokens grew more than BTC in 3x times in price, but not many of them are still there today to tell the tale. And BTC, as the safest coin out there, is still the best one when it comes to just hodling it.

This is not a trading or investment topic, this is a casino topic. Although many people here discuss the BFG token of their platform, you cannot discuss any other coin here for trading or investment. What you are doing is spamming. don't do it.

Finally, there are users who have wagered several million on Betfury, but there are many reasons why they don't talk about it in public.

Wow, I'd love to reach that level. It's a huge skill Many people on the forum are like that; we don't know what they do in the games, how they play, or how much they bet. It's natural that they don't want to admit they make those kinds of bets. If I did, I'd also stay anonymous, and it's much better that way, Betfury attracts clients with a lot of potential.

Hahahaha, do you know how much they have lose before they win million from Betfury , just that people don't announce their lost in public but some people like to spread their winning in public. I have not lose much in Betfury but there is a hope that my news will break out soon, because I believe in luck in any decision i am  taking in playing sport betting.

Not that they don't want to tell people about their winning that   made them a millionaire  from Betfury, but they are afraid of the public because they don't know who will be after their lifes or their personal details.

He never talks about how much he loses in gambling or worries when he wins a big jackpot. You will often see stories of someone winning big from gambling. But you will not see him telling how much he lost behind his win. Gamblers share two types of stories, one is the story of his ruin and the other is the story of his big fortune. He does not reveal anything in between or does not want anyone to know.

[LeyMonte]

^ Many tokens grew more than BTC in 3x times in price, but not many of them are still there today to tell the tale. And BTC, as the safest coin out there, is still the best one when it comes to just hodling it.

There is a sector to discuss Bitcoin but I don't understand why you came to the game betting post and posted like this. Never make random posts like this because they are spamming. Again, I can already see that you have eaten two tags in your account. If you post, try to post good quality posts in a good sector and don't ruin your reputation by posting these spamming posts.

This is not a trading or investment topic, this is a casino topic. Although many people here discuss the BFG token of their platform, you cannot discuss any other coin here for trading or investment. What you are doing is spamming. don't do it.

I don't know if you are paying attention but I can already see two spamming tags. There are a lot of posts on his account and most of the posts are spamming. Why do they try to cause disruption by posting such spamming.

[Rruchi man]

Well, what you're saying here is true What scares me most is that people with that kind of money might be discovered thanks to their data. It's good that these kinds of Debates happen There are players who come in and start looking for the best options for the casino, Those who lose the most don't talk about it either I'm not ashamed to say that I've lost a lot of money I've played quite a bit on Betfury and I've lost maybe more than I've won, but not at a millionaire level.

You're clearly not the only one who has lost a lot on gambling. In fact, there are significantly more people who lose than win. It's normal that in the long run, gamblers will be at a loss, while individual wins, whether on Betfury or any other gambling platform, are always a matter of luck.

When you have an understanding that losses are a part of the winning package, or that you have to win some and lose some in gambling based on factors you cannot always control, you will let go of losses easily and then also control yourself when you win big from gambling.

Gamblers who have not learned how to control the emotion of winning will end up gambling more, maybe because they feel they are on a winning streak that will not end soon or become overconfident in their gambling style.
Gamblers who have not learned to accept losses will also feel frustrated, even depressed, and gamble more recklessly also in trying to chase back losses and lose even more.

[Unsoldier]

Well, what you're saying here is true What scares me most is that people with that kind of money might be discovered thanks to their data. It's good that these kinds of Debates happen There are players who come in and start looking for the best options for the casino, Those who lose the most don't talk about it either I'm not ashamed to say that I've lost a lot of money I've played quite a bit on Betfury and I've lost maybe more than I've won, but not at a millionaire level.

You're clearly not the only one who has lost a lot on gambling. In fact, there are significantly more people who lose than win. It's normal that in the long run, gamblers will be at a loss, while individual wins, whether on Betfury or any other gambling platform, are always a matter of luck.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

If...
If you bought Bitcoin on 11/19/2023 when it cost $37k and sold it today, you would be in a huge plus. Tell me which token could offer something similar?

Well, for example, if you had bought ZEC instead of BTC and just held it for the same period, you would have earned much more now.

Yeah, the usual story: open a one-year chart, point at a candle and say “should’ve bought/sold right here.” Even a fridge could become a trader with hindsight Finding a chart where ZEC outperforms BTC is easy. Predicting those moments before they happen — that’s the real magic nobody has.

[serjent05]

Hmm, your reply doesn't really make too much sense. Their post was made IN THIS FORUM, so it addresses FORUM MEMBERS, doesn't it? Why else post it here?

I came back to their post again, and I didn't see that the challenge they are promoting is exclusive only to members of this forum. Also, I assume that they shared the same on other marketing channels, and Bitcointalk is just one of them. This is not only the case with Betfury, but also with all other casinos.

Yeah, I believe they are cross-posting their promotion in different platforms to maximize exposure. I do not see any problem with that, instead I find it good since the platform is putting their best to cover people from different platforms in informing them about the promotion, or bonuses the Casino is currently offering.

If you had bought bitcoin on 11/19/2024, when it cost $92,362.09 and sold it exactly one year later today at a price of $91,451, you would have received a loss of about $911 per coin, that is, you would have lost about 0.99% of the invested amount.

If...
If you bought Bitcoin on 11/19/2023 when it cost $37k and sold it today, you would be in a huge plus. Tell me which token could offer something similar?

There are some cryptocurrencies, although not tokens, that have outperformed Bitcoin growth during the said timeline.  One of which is BNB, where BNB growth reaches 255% against Bitcoin's 131%.