[Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆

[joker_josue]

- this year we had 166 unique users nominated for 10 categories. Excepting them, some were also nominated as being event or fail of the year Oo

Will you present the list of all nominees for each category?

Regardless of the answer, do not do anything now that will interfere with the output of the results.
Keep up the good work, as we are all looking forward to the results. 

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[GazetaBitcoin]

Thank you Gazeta for this incredible work! I cannot think how efficient and convolute is your AI driven scraping tool that automatically get the votes, checks the profile requirements, updates the charts and checks for plagiarism!

Loooooooool! Only if it would be that easy... heh

About plagiarism -- should I also report it in the adequate thread + give negative feedback and initiate a flag against the plagiarist?

Will you present the list of all nominees for each category?

Umm... I think it would be a very difficult work to do it. If you take a look at the result from 2021 or 2020 you can also see that not all nominees were listed. Only those with at least 3 votes.

On the other side, I think it can be implemented a "code - /code" sequence at the bottom of the topic and list there (obviously, without hyperlinks) the names of all other nominees which are not listed in the upper part, meaning those which had 1 or 2 nominations.

Keep up the good work, as we are all looking forward to the results. 

Thanks, I'll do my best!

[LoyceV]

About plagiarism -- should I also report it in the adequate thread + give negative feedback and initiate a flag against the plagiarist?

I'd say: report the post for plagiarism, but don't tag the account. There was nothing to gain by voting, so it's not like he cheated a contest.

Update: I reported the post.

[shahzadafzal]

- obvious case of copy=paste votes, such as the ones from the example below, won't be counted anymore:

OMG that's the height of laziness from a Hero Member, com’n Sayeds56 you can do better.

Question both votes are not counted? or my vote will be counted??

[joker_josue]

Will you present the list of all nominees for each category?

Umm... I think it would be a very difficult work to do it. If you take a look at the result from 2021 or 2020 you can also see that not all nominees were listed. Only those with at least 3 votes.

On the other side, I think it can be implemented a "code - /code" sequence at the bottom of the topic and list there (obviously, without hyperlinks) the names of all other nominees which are not listed in the upper part, meaning those which had 1 or 2 nominations.

I understand perfectly!

I don't know how you guys are collecting the data. But if you need any help, just say so.
But, that's not important right now. We can look into this later if you want to be clear. 

[Rikafip]

Question both votes are not counted? or my vote will be counted??

There's no reason for your vote not to be counted as he is the one who copy/pasted yours.

I'd say: report the post for plagiarism, but don't tag the account. There was nothing to gain by voting, so it's not like he cheated a contest.

+1

Tagging and flagging might be an overkill for this case. This laziness deserves to be punished though so I think that something like a temporary sig ban would be adequate.

[shahzadafzal]

I'd say: report the post for plagiarism, but don't tag the account. There was nothing to gain by voting, so it's not like he cheated a contest.

+1

Tagging and flagging might be an overkill for this case. This laziness deserves to be punished though so I think that something like a temporary sig ban would be adequate.

I don't know but reporting the post will definitely end up in a ban.  

Admins will see the report and it will be a straightforward case of copy paste.

Too bad for Sayeds56 such a stupid mistake can cost him this much.

Tagging him so he will be notified I don't know if he can justify this but I'm feeling sorry for him.

[Rikafip]

I don't know but reporting the post will definitely end up in a ban.  

I wouldn't be so sure that one plagiarized post from a high ranking account will mean an instant ban. Few years ago it would be, but nowadays not so much as mods became more lenient.

[GazetaBitcoin]

OMG that's the height of laziness from a Hero Member, com’n Sayeds56 you can do better.

Lol!

Question both votes are not counted? or my vote will be counted??

As I said in my earlier post,

the votes are still eligible for the initial poster, as this one has nothing to do with the fact that his post was copy-pasted later

So don't worry, the original poster's nominations are legit. The problem is that some are really too lazy and, for making more posts or for whatever weird reason they may have, they just copy what others nominated, without realizing that by doing so they also influence the results of the competition. And, excepting that the idea itself is weird and unethical, it may also impact some candidates which will receive multiple votes only because someone is too lazy to think about who he thinks is more suitable to a certain category.

if you need any help, just say so.

Thank you for the good intentions Now most of the work is done. But if there will be an overwhelming situation in the future, I'll remember your offer.

I'd say: report the post for plagiarism, but don't tag the account. There was nothing to gain by voting, so it's not like he cheated a contest.

Tagging and flagging might be an overkill for this case. This laziness deserves to be punished though so I think that something like a temporary sig ban would be adequate.

Too bad for Sayeds56 such a stupid mistake can cost him this much.

Oooops that escalated quickly Oo I was barely trying to say something funny in my earlier post, about reporting for plagiarism, initiating of a flag and negative feedback.

Nevertheless, it actually is plagiarism, although it's a very dumb one I did not actually think to do all those actions. But anyway, it was unfair what the user did, this can't be denied. Let's see the resolution of the report now. This may create a precedent for future contests and, in case the report will be marked as Good and a penalty will be applied to the user then this may be a good incentive for everybody to avoid copy-pasting even it the context is a contest on the forum.

[LoyceV]

Let's see the resolution of the report now. This may create a precedent for future contests and, in case the report will be marked as Good and a penalty will be applied to the user then this may be a good incentive for everybody to avoid copy-pasting even it the context is a contest on the forum.

The Report is marked Good, the post deleted:

Delete reply: Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 in topic #5422131 by member #2178170

The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

[Sayeds56]

Let's see the resolution of the report now. This may create a precedent for future contests and, in case the report will be marked as Good and a penalty will be applied to the user then this may be a good incentive for everybody to avoid copy-pasting even it the context is a contest on the forum.

The Report is marked Good, the post deleted:

Delete reply: Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 in topic #5422131 by member #2178170

The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

I apologize for my unintentional mistake which was not made with the intention of gaining any advantage. It was simply due to my laziness and I would be grateful if you could forgive me.

 Thank you for taking the time to consider my request.

[GazetaBitcoin]

The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

Umm.. seeing that he just posted below your post I believe he was not banned, or not yet. Let's see how things will develop though... If he's lucky enough he'll end up just with having one post deleted, which is not hard to live with. However, even if it will be so, I think he learned his lesson.

I apologize for my unintentional mistake which was not made with the intention of gaining any advantage. It was simply due to my laziness and I would be grateful if you could forgive me.

Just curious though: why did you make the post? Since you had clearly absolutely no reason to vote (otherwise you would certainly spend some time to think about who to nominate) why did you make that post?

Excepting the above question, have you ever considered of implications of such behavior in case dozens of users would do it? Imagine someone would nominate multiple users which would not deserve to be nominated and after that a dozen copy-paste his vote. This could lead to (1) having an incorrect winner (or more) and / or (2) to have the one counting votes spending a lot of precious time in vain, just to analyze copy-pasted votes in order to not count them.

Seriously, why act like this? For what purpose?

[BlackHatCoiner]

Seriously, why act like this? For what purpose?

That's an even better question for his campaign manager. 

[n0nce]

Seriously, why act like this? For what purpose?

That's an even better question for his campaign manager. 

Playing devil's advocate: maybe the two are extremely good buddies, e.g. sat together to choose a winner for each category, and in the end both submitted the identical vote. I do personally think it's unlikely, but not impossible. A more likely variation: poster 2 highly trusts poster 1 and mostly agrees with his opinions (and by extension, votes). He feels lazy to question every single choice to maybe come up with better nominees himself, and just copy / pastes the whole vote instead.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Playing devil's advocate

Lol!

maybe the two are extremely good buddies, e.g. sat together to choose a winner

This remember of a guy which showed a sort of office full of muslims, saying this is how they work there and this is why they copy-paste each other or use same crypto addresses... I don't remember exactly the situation but I remember that LoyceV trolled once one of them, quoting his picture of the office and asking him if this was how his workspace looked like Maybe LoyceV remembers and shows that priceless photo It could be used here, to see how Sayeds56 was in same office with shahzadafzal. (Just kidding though.)

Now let me help you out a little about second option you gave

poster 2 highly trusts worships poster 1 and mostly agrees with his opinions (and by extension, votes) and is very obedient too. He feels lazy but also scared to question every single choice of his master to maybe come up with better nominees himself, and just copy / pastes the whole vote instead plus, this way he also proves how submissive he is.

[Sayeds56]

The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

Umm.. seeing that he just posted below your post I believe he was not banned, or not yet. Let's see how things will develop though... If he's lucky enough he'll end up just with having one post deleted, which is not hard to live with. However, even if it will be so, I think he learned his lesson.

I apologize for my unintentional mistake which was not made with the intention of gaining any advantage. It was simply due to my laziness and I would be grateful if you could forgive me.

Just curious though: why did you make the post? Since you had clearly absolutely no reason to vote (otherwise you would certainly spend some time to think about who to nominate) why did you make that post?

Excepting the above question, have you ever considered of implications of such behavior in case dozens of users would do it? Imagine someone would nominate multiple users which would not deserve to be nominated and after that a dozen copy-paste his vote. This could lead to (1) having an incorrect winner (or more) and / or (2) to have the one counting votes spending a lot of precious time in vain, just to analyze copy-pasted votes in order to not count them.

Seriously, why act like this? For what purpose?

Honestly speaking, the reason I made the post was to express gratitude towards Shahzad Afzal's significant contribution to our local community on the Bitcointalk forum, where he provides valuable information about Bitcoin and technology. I also wanted to acknowledge his efforts in attracting new members. This is why I followed his voting decision and included him in the Craft Master category.

[LoyceV]

Honestly speaking, the reason I made the post was to express gratitude towards Shahzad Afzal's significant contribution to our local community on the Bitcointalk forum ~ This is why I followed his voting decision and included him in the Craft Master category.

If you want to express gratitude, how hard can it be to type it? Example:
"I copied most of shahzadafzal's votes because of his contribution to our local community."

Now you've accomplished the opposite of what you (supposedly) wanted:

OMG that's the height of laziness from a Hero Member, com’n Sayeds56 you can do better.

[shahzadafzal]

The Report is marked Good, the post deleted:

Delete reply: Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 in topic #5422131 by member #2178170

The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

Good for him I would say he got lucky and escaped this situation since he's still posting... if admin banned him they could have, since they had the reason with proof.

Umm.. seeing that he just posted below your post I believe he was not banned, or not yet. Let's see how things will develop though... If he's lucky enough he'll end up just with having one post deleted, which is not hard to live with. However, even if it will be so, I think he learned his lesson.

That's the point...I'm hope he would be careful next tim.

Now let me help you out a little about second option you gave

poster 2 highly trusts worships poster 1 and mostly agrees with his opinions (and by extension, votes) and is very obedient too. He feels lazy but also scared to question every single choice of his master to maybe come up with better nominees himself, and just copy / pastes the whole vote instead plus, this way he also proves how submissive he is.

submissive why I'm getting aroused

Honestly speaking, the reason I made the post was to express gratitude towards Shahzad Afzal's significant contribution to our local community on the Bitcointalk forum, where he provides valuable information about Bitcoin and technology. I also wanted to acknowledge his efforts in attracting new members. This is why I followed his voting decision and included him in the Craft Master category.

I'm not sure should I say thank you or emphasize the copy paste blunder more.

I remember that LoyceV trolled once one of them, quoting his picture of the office and asking him if this was how his workspace looked like

hahaha I remember...

Any chance your office looks like this?

No way i can't put this much concentration
 

[GazetaBitcoin]

poster 2 highly trusts worships poster 1 and mostly agrees with his opinions (and by extension, votes) and is very obedient too. He feels lazy but also scared to question every single choice of his master to maybe come up with better nominees himself, and just copy / pastes the whole vote instead plus, this way he also proves how submissive he is.

See? it was a proof of obedience

Honestly speaking, the reason I made the post was to express gratitude towards Shahzad Afzal's significant contribution

submissive why I'm getting aroused

Oh boy

Any chance your office looks like this?

Loooooooooool! Yes, that was the picture ahahhahahah! Good job finding it! I will save it somewhere now to have it at hand in the future

[FatFork]

Honestly speaking, the reason I made the post was to express gratitude towards Shahzad Afzal's significant contribution to our local community on the Bitcointalk forum...

Honestly, this excuse for your laziness is probably one of the weakest and least convincing. I understand that in some parts of the world, plagiarism may not be considered a major offense, but I have never heard of it being used as a way of expressing gratitude.

This is why I followed his voting decision and included him in the Craft Master category.

Well, you've included him in the Craft Master category but forgot to remove his personal musings. How crafty of you! 

I mean sorry but yes

submissive why I'm getting aroused

Oh yeah! That sounds hot. (If you're into that sort of thing, that is).