Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?

[ryzaadit]

Wanna real fair and not skeptical with "Dice Game" from the written code, then go to "Live" gambling. If you do not believe on SHA-256 provably fair and still overthinking about the result. Why not playing on "Real Live" Dice, you can try to look "Lightning Dice" from Evolution Gaming as you know it they roll the dice live so the resul was really fair not gonna complain anymore.

[pakhitheboss]

I have not heard any online gambling game which is actually fair, I only know that they are all probably fair. Being fair does not affect a game outcome. Dice games are easy to understand but are the most tricky one. Withdrawl on most gambling sites are instant if you achieve the minimum amount they have nothing to do with fairness.

[arallmuus]

I'm afraid fair DICE GAME (gambling site) doesn't exist, I mean they may be put " Probably Fair" but they are just sugarcoating it so that many players will think that it's safe to play Dice game on them,

You should probably restrain yourself to write anything about this in the future. Look, It is PROVABLY FAIR and not PROBABLY and this means it is PROVABLE to be fair. The result will still be random but you have the ability to prove if it is actually random (fair) or rigged. It is silly to read this but I do feel the urge to correct it

I have not heard any online gambling game which is actually fair, I only know that they are all probably fair. Being fair does not affect a game outcome.

It is PROVABLY fair and its not probably. Yes fair/ provably fair doesnt mean that you will win the game but atleast you have the ability to check the result. I'd rather lose but it is actually a fair game rather than not

[arbmarket]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

I should preface this with that I did have a couple incredible runs on this game in the past. Variance just catching up?

[harizen]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

Are you are questioning why should a gambler experience consecutive losses for numerous streaks? Or how often should it happen?

It really happened as both sides do have % to happen. Let's put it like this, as long as you can confirm and verify the fairness each of those rolls, should be no question asked about the output and results even losing 20+ in a row.

It really happened and that's the reality in playing against the house.

[cabron]

If you lose to a bet, there are ways to verify the result of the dice. I'm sure you have found how way to learn the provably fair system which most casinos will provide the encrypted hash. Here's a good page for it www.provablyfair.me/verify-bets/

There is also this thread here seems to have detailed it all regarding those seeds. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0

[PhilEilhart]

This might appear like nit-picking, but there are really classes you'll be able take in Las Vegas that give tips to slide instead of roll dice to force a certain result. This can be why casinos require that you just bounce the dice off the back bumper of a craps table.

[adzino]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

-snip- So far I haven't come across any completely fair dice game. It was either a scam or the casino is taking some fees. -snip-

Casino taking fees doesn't mean that they are scamming. If they take fees without letting anyone know (might include in their ToS or FAQ), then you can call them a scam. But I doubt anyone does that.
I seriously doubt that you "never" came across a real casino. I mean you are advertising for a casino in your signature and avatar. Aren't they completely fair?

[shoreno]

-snip- So far I haven't come across any completely fair dice game. It was either a scam or the casino is taking some fees. -snip-

Casino taking fees doesn't mean that they are scamming. If they take fees without letting anyone know (might include in their ToS or FAQ), then you can call them a scam. But I doubt anyone does that.

every gambling site does require a fee and that fee is withdrawal fee . house edge can also be another form of fee because this is the way that casino earns .

 as long as both of the withdrawal fees and house edge are not too much and add in if the site is provably fair ,  i still think that the casino is worth it to spend money  on

[arbmarket]

If you lose to a bet, there are ways to verify the result of the dice. I'm sure you have found how way to learn the provably fair system which most casinos will provide the encrypted hash. Here's a good page for it www.provablyfair.me/verify-bets/

There is also this thread here seems to have detailed it all regarding those seeds. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0

Thanks Carbon. That explainer threat is the closest to what I was looking for in this thread. 

All you guys were helpful I am just not very technical. Learning.

[MCobian]

In my opinion, gambling sites that are popular and have a good reputation are actually fair, but what you mean is fair doesn't mean
you are playing dice easy to win. Then every time you make a withdrawal, of course there is a fee, it doesn't mean they will rob us.
Just like exchanges are going to make a withdrawal, there must be a fee too. And there are many ways to check the gambling sites that
we use to play dice games, fair or not. You can search this forum or search the internet, there are many ways to check the fairness of
gambling sites. So during this time I played dice games on several gambling sites there was no problem with fairness.

[suzanne5223]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

Gambling is a game of chance the best to do control ones buzz and when to stop. The new dice site i know is chips.gg and they offer good probably fair game. However, the best part is that gambler always win even when lost the game cause they give players chips according to game played and the chips can be used for receiving dividends from the site profit if unlock.

[chaser15]

In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

No one can say as each bet is following a certain random algorithm.

It will really create doubts about fairness if someone got hit 5 times, 10 times, 15 times losing in a row but as mentioned above, if we are able to verify those bets are true then we don't have a choice but to accept the loss. That's how risky dealing in a gambling game against the house.

I advise you to learn how provably fair works so that you will be aware of those.

[Pamadar]

In my opinion, gambling sites that are popular and have a good reputation are actually fair, but what you mean is fair doesn't mean
you are playing dice easy to win. Then every time you make a withdrawal, of course there is a fee, it doesn't mean they will rob us.
Just like exchanges are going to make a withdrawal, there must be a fee too. And there are many ways to check the gambling sites that
we use to play dice games, fair or not. You can search this forum or search the internet, there are many ways to check the fairness of
gambling sites. So during this time I played dice games on several gambling sites there was no problem with fairness.

I agree to that, most of those reputable dice house can be trusted as they are caring about the future of their business.

Every dice house wanted to have a good relationship with every gamblers who uses their platform making sure that customer have
a satisfying stay and not to feel being cheated. They always benefited with this kind of treatment and for sure they will take care of it.

[dimonstration]

If you lose to a bet, there are ways to verify the result of the dice. I'm sure you have found how way to learn the provably fair system which most casinos will provide the encrypted hash. Here's a good page for it www.provablyfair.me/verify-bets/

There is also this thread here seems to have detailed it all regarding those seeds. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0

There are casinos who also provide provably fair calculator, though I'm not sure if many use it when they lose in playing sometimes it's just an add ons of the casino to show they are offering provably fair calculator for some legit check. Links above can help those who are very particular in fairness of playing. But for me, I prefer to jsut play and test my luck in dice that makes my head aches in studying its fairness. I don't think also there is actually fair as the house controls the casino and games.

[goinmerry]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

We can't determine this beforehand. Even by a higher winning chance, consecutive losing is always possible.

That's how random hashes work. We think we are being cheated because of several losing streaks but in reality, it's a product of fair random seed.

Not new for a dice player to think like this. Before, there are even threads complaining a 10 roll losing streak that was played on a reputable, famous and big site.

[Astvile]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

It is basically a 50/50 game almost, so no one can predict what are the odds of you losing more than 11 in a row but it may happen. Those results are randomly generated so we cant really know. I once lose 9x in a 80% chance so anything may happen specially in dice games.

They are designed to fuck you over because they have a house edge.

It is their business model.

I agreed to this, I already tried experimenting on different odds available and ended up losing in the long run no matter how much odds are on my side, no casino is fair in these kind of games. Casinos are not made for players to get rich remember that.

[maydna]

If you lose to a bet, there are ways to verify the result of the dice. I'm sure you have found how way to learn the provably fair system which most casinos will provide the encrypted hash. Here's a good page for it www.provablyfair.me/verify-bets/

There is also this thread here seems to have detailed it all regarding those seeds. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0

Thanks Carbon. That explainer threat is the closest to what I was looking for in this thread. 

All you guys were helpful I am just not very technical. Learning.

I suggest you not think much about provably fair because that can make you spend much time to verify, and you can't enjoy and have fun in the game. If you only want to check the provably fair on every gambling site, you need to visit one by one at the site to check it. I won't do that because my reason for playing dice games is to have fun and enjoy the game without thinking about the provably fair.

But in the dice games, you will need more chances to win, which means you need the luck to win, no matter if the site is provably fair or not. Perhaps, you can explain more details of what you want to know to get a detailed answer.

[Wexnident]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

I should preface this with that I did have a couple incredible runs on this game in the past. Variance just catching up?

Plain luck, Variance plays no matter in this imo. The moment you think of that, you'd start thinking that luck actually follows a logical path and would then start making logical decisions for it, thinking that it's luck, but it's not. A game may have a 50/50 chance, but losing 20 times or more in a row is completely understandable. A dice game does not increase your chance of winning based on the amounts of loss you've had, it's always a 50/50 chance per round. Thinking that because you've had lost multiple times in a row is because of variance catching up is stupid.

Just don't play in the long run, that always guarantees a loss no matter what due to the casino has a house edge. Other than that, there's not much you can do in terms of actually playing luck-based games. That is if you can negotiate with casinos to decrease your losses so that you have the edge instead of them, though that mostly just happens on physical casinos and mostly famous gamblers are the ones that get introduced to such benefits.

[Johnyz]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

The house will always win so no matter what strategies you are using they will still find a way to collect money from you but of course many are still offering at least a fair gambling site.

You can try to play on Roobet and Bustadice, they are one of the reputable gambling site and I played with them so far I didn't experience any problem on playing with them. Fair gambling site is a must, so its good that you play with them and I suggest to still have your self-control so you wont regret losing money and stop being greedy.