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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 04, 2020, 12:21:16 PM
#101
Quote from: Question123 on October 04, 2020, 12:21:53 AM
There is more gambling sited that's offet a dice game with fair game but we know that the team of the online gambling is always win or let just say they always getting profit. We know that once we said gambling there is chance for the player to win a money and take note a lot of money but there is probability that you losing money for the short period of time only. Only the team or the creator of the gambling sites will earn money guaranteed because that is systematic that is my opinion only and or what I think. I play dice games and it is one of my favorite and if you want to try it just play to the trusted gambling sites because it is the way for you to see if the dice games is fair .
well I really agree with what you say, therefore stay alert when gambling anywhere, if you have gotten a lot of profit then you can make withdrawals as quickly as possible because if you don't do that the profit you have earned will return to the gambling place because maybe you will be set to lose again.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 04, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
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Quote from: maydna on October 04, 2020, 12:54:42 AM
We know that gambling sites will profit in the end, no matter if the gambler can win in any gambling game. The gambling website will not let the gamblers take the win money from them, but they still fair to the gamblers because they let one or two gamblers win on the games.
But the probability of losing money in the gambling games will be bigger, especially if many gamblers played on all the gambling games on that site. We can imagine from 100 gamblers played 10 gambling games, only less than 5 people who can win much money while losing their money.
If we play dice games on the recommended gambling websites, I think they are fair enough to their members, so I guess we don't have to worry about fair or not.
Exactly, casinos do not get mad if a player wins once in a while, in fact this plays to their advantage as most people describe their experiences of success to their friends and not the times in which they have lost money, the winners give free promotion to the casino and many of those that listen to those stories will try their luck in their casino as well, however what they care about is that over the long term and a huge number of bets they earn money and this is a mathematical certainty as long as they have a house edge and their risk of bankruptcy is zero.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 04, 2020, 09:11:22 PM
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If we play dice games in the short run and we win a few times, I think the gambling site is fair enough.
Because don't expect to beat gambling sites by playing dice, their system is designed so that we often lose.
Therefore, don't play dice games for too long, and if you manage to win several times, don't continue playing again.
Immediately withdraw the profit you get.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 05, 2020, 12:50:05 AM
#104
Quote from: South Park on October 04, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: maydna on October 04, 2020, 12:54:42 AM
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Exactly, casinos do not get mad if a player wins once in a while, in fact this plays to their advantage as most people describe their experiences of success to their friends and not the times in which they have lost money, the winners give free promotion to the casino and many of those that listen to those stories will try their luck in their casino as well, however what they care about is that over the long term and a huge number of bets they earn money and this is a mathematical certainty as long as they have a house edge and their risk of bankruptcy is zero.
Besides that, that will be a little promotion to the gambling website to get more members in the future, especially if that winner can invite many friends to visit on that site. The gambling website will get more advantages from that, and they will serve them or visit on their site with better.
Dice games as a popular gambling game will attract many people to spend their money and time on their sites. But people need to have control of themselves because playing any gambling games can take their money.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 05, 2020, 05:01:38 AM
#105
Quote from: arbmarket on September 24, 2020, 05:37:42 AM
All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.
Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?
I don't really understand your question here how could they rape you when you are already cashing out?
There are so many trusted dice site that proven to be fair maybe you are just unlucky that you lose every time you decide to go big actually I also happen to question it too back then but I also experience winning big so it is all just a theory and they have proven to be fair.
There are so many gamblers who have won in dice site and there are dice site that allows us to look for the gamblers profile to see how much they have spent and how much did they win/lose on the site.
I think you could see some gamblers having a positive account with a huge winning in some high rollers.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 06, 2020, 01:46:52 PM
#106
Quote from: butcherme on October 05, 2020, 05:01:38 AM
Quote from: arbmarket on September 24, 2020, 05:37:42 AM
All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.
Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?
I don't really understand your question here how could they rape you when you are already cashing out?
People have a reason to believe the site owners or game operator cheated when the game result seems to be switched and when the site owner doesn't provide the adequate seed with a link to verify the algorithms of each game. However, the OP makes a good point cause some provably fair site does cheat but I will advise him to always check the fairness information site before using it.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
#107
Quote from: hulla on October 06, 2020, 01:46:52 PM
Quote from: butcherme on October 05, 2020, 05:01:38 AM
Quote from: arbmarket on September 24, 2020, 05:37:42 AM
All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.
Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?
I don't really understand your question here how could they rape you when you are already cashing out?
People have a reason to believe the site owners or game operator cheated when the game result seems to be switched and when the site owner doesn't provide the adequate seed with a link to verify the algorithms of each game. However, the OP makes a good point cause some provably fair site does cheat but I will advise him to always check the fairness information site before using it.
If he really cares about his bet, I am sure he will always check the provably fair, but if he only bet without thinking much about provably fair, I think he will play the game. But if the reputable gambling site really cheats their members, I am sure that it will take too long to see their reputations will ruin because of that. I am sure that the gambling site will not play with that because they concern about their members and their website.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 06:50:20 PM
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Quote from: Taskford on September 24, 2020, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 24, 2020, 10:45:58 AM
Quote from: Tipstar on September 24, 2020, 10:07:04 AM
There are many dice and gambling sites that sticks to their house edge and does not change anything depending on the users or results.
Every sites with a legit crypto gambling foundation badge are provably fair and some others well know sites that are not on the foundation yet know for their fairness. An unfair site would not survive for long and if you encountered any old gambling site with a good number of users, you could be sure it's provably fair.
You have a point. A gambling site will not take long if some users already find out that the gambling site that they are playing is not fair enough to play. I think every dice game in a gambling site always stick on their house edge and its all a game of chance, so it seems fair that they are giving every player an equal probability of winning.
This is simple to think since if we are worried about the fairness of the casino then we should go to old with huge number of players as tipstar said since we can assure that they will not wreck their players and they will also protect their casino for any of bad comments to the users since they have a reputation that they need to protect. We simply avoid those new casinos since we don't know their fairness yet and they are the one who mostly scam their users.
Explained well. The new dice can be risky and mostly created to fuck the people by advertising lucrative things and the new people and sometimes the old one got fucked by them. Always go for renowned Dice (gambling site) for your investment.
Dice is a model where they run it for their extra income besides house. So for less risk, go for old one.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
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I don't really hope it's fair or not, as long as I can withdraw there is nothing to worry about...
however online casinos are run with programming but trusted gambling developers are definitely doing honest things to run their business. It is important for you to be more selective in choosing the site where you are gambling dice so as not to be fooled by malicious developers.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
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Quote from: Renampun on October 07, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I don't really hope it's fair or not, as long as I can withdraw there is nothing to worry about...
however online casinos are run with programming but trusted gambling developers are definitely doing honest things to run their business. It is important for you to be more selective in choosing the site where you are gambling dice so as not to be fooled by malicious developers.
There is a way to check whether the system is provably fair. The system though is just popularized in the crypto casino, there is no organization that will check which one is fair or not. But you can understand it because the odds will always favor the house.
If you are not very techy enough to check the server-side and the client seed and whatnot, you'd just give up and accept they are fair even when you experienced 5-day losing streak.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 08:45:46 PM
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I know the feeling and its a reason why you should try a different game rather then blame the game itself, dice never fills me with confidence that I can come out with a lucky profit. If I win I expect to lose soon after as surely luck goes and comes back around and if I lose it just feels like I'll always keep losing and thats not fun for me. Always totally preferred to go with slots or other types of betting.
Lots of the dice games are fair in theory even in practice if you realize it has to give a house cut in there but you may just not find it suits you and thats 100% normal tbh.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 08:51:07 PM
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Quote from: target on October 07, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Renampun on October 07, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I don't really hope it's fair or not, as long as I can withdraw there is nothing to worry about...
however online casinos are run with programming but trusted gambling developers are definitely doing honest things to run their business. It is important for you to be more selective in choosing the site where you are gambling dice so as not to be fooled by malicious developers.
There is a way to check whether the system is provably fair. The system though is just popularized in the crypto casino, there is no organization that will check which one is fair or not. But you can understand it because the odds will always favor the house.
If you are not very techy enough to check the server-side and the client seed and whatnot, you'd just give up and accept they are fair even when you experienced 5-day losing streak.
5-day losing streak? that will really put me into that state of mind on having that question on why the hell im experiencing this. Yeah gambling is really ending up to lose but
there are instances which you cant really just accept on what happen specially if you had notice that something is happening specially if streaks are just too much or already
not realistic at all.I cant blame out people to have those questions in mind and next will be targeting or making issue about fairness.Majority wont really bother out on making
verification if bets are indeed fair since they would just stick out into those known sites and they presume that they are on the right place.Its normal that you would find a place
that had been played by lots then telling that they do had fair games.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 07, 2020, 09:02:29 PM
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Quote from: Wawa2013 on October 04, 2020, 09:11:22 PM
If we play dice games in the short run and we win a few times, I think the gambling site is fair enough.
Because don't expect to beat gambling sites by playing dice, their system is designed so that we often lose.
Therefore, don't play dice games for too long, and if you manage to win several times, don't continue playing again.
Immediately withdraw the profit you get.
Each dice player chooses coefficients and multipliers before the roll, so you can adjust your own chances of winning. The smaller the amount of potential winnings, the greater the chance that you will win. The higher the winning amount, the less chance of winning.
I believe that everything is fair. You choose your own chance to win and your victory depends on your luck.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 08, 2020, 08:08:17 PM
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Quote from: Mahanton on October 07, 2020, 08:51:07 PM
5-day losing streak? that will really put me into that state of mind on having that question on why the hell im experiencing this. Yeah gambling is really ending up to lose but
there are instances which you cant really just accept on what happen specially if you had notice that something is happening specially if streaks are just too much or already
not realistic at all.I cant blame out people to have those questions in mind and next will be targeting or making issue about fairness.Majority wont really bother out on making
verification if bets are indeed fair since they would just stick out into those known sites and they presume that they are on the right place.Its normal that you would find a place
that had been played by lots then telling that they do had fair games.
A five day losing streak is completely possible however I will be suspicious of it if that was my first time playing in a casino and I will try to verify the results but if you play daily as many people do then getting a 5 day losing streak is completely normal, what you need to do at that point is to not try to recover your money during the next day since many times that ends up being a recipe for disaster as people lose their patience and try to recover all the money they lost in a single day and that is when massive losses are incurred.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 08, 2020, 09:13:17 PM
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Quote from: target on October 07, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Renampun on October 07, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I don't really hope it's fair or not, as long as I can withdraw there is nothing to worry about...
however online casinos are run with programming but trusted gambling developers are definitely doing honest things to run their business. It is important for you to be more selective in choosing the site where you are gambling dice so as not to be fooled by malicious developers.
There is a way to check whether the system is provably fair. The system though is just popularized in the crypto casino, there is no organization that will check which one is fair or not. But you can understand it because the odds will always favor the house.
If you are not very techy enough to check the server-side and the client seed and whatnot, you'd just give up and accept they are fair even when you experienced 5-day losing streak.
Indeed, often times, casino itself offers to check the provability fair of the hashes and how fair it is. If someone is suspicious of the provably fair test of a casino, there is always an independent third party provably fair checker such as
https://www.provablyfair.me/
Quote from: South Park on October 08, 2020, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: Mahanton on October 07, 2020, 08:51:07 PM
5-day losing streak? that will really put me into that state of mind on having that question on why the hell im experiencing this. Yeah gambling is really ending up to lose but
there are instances which you cant really just accept on what happen specially if you had notice that something is happening specially if streaks are just too much or already
not realistic at all.I cant blame out people to have those questions in mind and next will be targeting or making issue about fairness.Majority wont really bother out on making
verification if bets are indeed fair since they would just stick out into those known sites and they presume that they are on the right place.Its normal that you would find a place
that had been played by lots then telling that they do had fair games.
A five day losing streak is completely possible however I will be suspicious of it if that was my first time playing in a casino and I will try to verify the results but if you play daily as many people do then getting a 5 day losing streak is completely normal, what you need to do at that point is to not try to recover your money during the next day since many times that ends up being a recipe for disaster as people lose their patience and try to recover all the money they lost in a single day and that is when massive losses are incurred.
If you play nonstop 24/7 not only 5 days losing streak but entire life losing streak may happen. I don't know how the gambling program works but I noticed especially in slots, the longer a player play, the lesser the chance of a winning combination to appear. So it seems that the longer a player play the more likely he get busted in a casino.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 08, 2020, 09:35:41 PM
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There have been many articles on the internet that explain how to check whether the system on the gambling site is fair or not.
But it is also difficult if we are indeed among those who do not understand technical things, My advice is to choose gambling sites
that are popular and have a good reputation. So there is no need to check the fairness of the gambling site, because usually gambling
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 08, 2020, 09:45:59 PM
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Quote from: KTChampions on October 03, 2020, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Saint-loup on October 02, 2020, 02:34:01 PM
Yes you're right, this is the probability to lose 11times in a row when you play 11times in a row AFAIK but
if you play many times odds to get a losing streak of 11 loss will be different IMO
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This is not just your opinion, its mathematical fact. This is described by Bernoulli's law. If I remember correctly, if you flip a coin 100 times, you get a sequence of 6-7 heads in a row with 100% probability. With 1000 tosses, you are guaranteed a sequence of 9-10 heads or tails. And so on.
100% probability? No it can't be 100%
It's the number of 100items combinations with at least 6 heads in a row divided by the total number of combinations ie 2
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 09, 2020, 09:18:02 AM
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Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2020, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 30, 2020, 11:49:57 PM
This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.
Exactly. I don't really understand why people look for a fair casino. In a fair casino, you are guaranteed to lose in the long term anyway.
A casino has no reason to put a hidden script behind its code to win against you. Mathematics do that job for the casino just fine.
I'd rather look for a dishonest casino with a broken script that's leaking money.
You are right but the broken casino might later lock your funds just how luckygames did if I remember correctly a player was able to win a lot of money so they made him loose intentionally or something like that happened. I would always rather like to play on a fair casino by playing a 1-2% house edge rather than playing at a broken or rigged casino that maybe sometimes give me profit but has twice as more chances to make me loose
and obviously the casino would be rigged towards the owners, right
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Since we are talking about broken casino I heard recently that a casino made a welcome offer that leaked a lot of money to it's users and actually the casino could not even stop it before a certain time despite knowing the problem because being a licensed casino they have to pay the user what they promised.
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Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?
October 09, 2020, 09:43:15 AM
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Quote from: BuNga_cute on October 08, 2020, 09:35:41 PM
There have been many articles on the internet that explain how to check whether the system on the gambling site is fair or not.
But it is also difficult if we are indeed among those who do not understand technical things, My advice is to choose gambling sites
that are popular and have a good reputation. So there is no need to check the fairness of the gambling site, because usually gambling
sites that have a good reputation are fair.
There are many sites that are just promoted and thus become popular, but they are not fair at all, my advice is similar to yours, I would rather choose a site that has existed for a long time, in my opinion it is the best reputation that the site is fair. Sites that are visited by a lot of people is a good indicator that the site is fair.
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