Presidential debates

[suchmoon]

Okay, I'm reversing my position on hearing that Biden has been talking about his run for the Senate. This is fucking ridiculously embarrassing. Give him to teleprompter and the virtual debate and tell him to shut up and read the prompter.

How much longer is this going on?

Relax, it will be over in 3 weeks plus a few days to count all illegal fraudulent fake ballots plus maybe a few weeks for the Supreme Court to rule on some conspiracy theories plus maybe a few months for Trump to concede but by that time no one will really care.

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[TwitchySeal]

My opinion is that Biden had far more to gain from engineering no more debates. Given his state of mental bliss, he really needed a teleprompter or an ear prompt.

This might have made some sense before the first debate. After that fiasco it's not quite clear if Trump could win a debate against an empty box of Cheerios and he seemed very happy to have found an excuse to back out of the second debate, which was supposed to be a town hall - a format that he failed miserably at a few weeks prior.

Okay, I'm reversing my position on hearing that Biden has been talking about his run for the Senate. This is fucking ridiculously embarrassing. Give him to teleprompter and the virtual debate and tell him to shut up and read the prompter.

How much longer is this going on?

Hey, remember that time Trump said 711 instead of 911?

Or Thigh Land?

Or when he tweeted his wifes name spelled incorrectly, or congratulated the wrong state for winning the super bowl?

For someone that defends Trump at all costs - you should probably pick something to attack Biden for other than mixing up a word here and there.

[Spendulus]

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For someone that defends Trump at all costs - you should probably pick something to attack Biden for other than mixing up a word here and there.

I didn't attack Biden.

I'm agreeing.

Give the fucking senile idiot Biden the teleprompter and the virtual debate.

[Spendulus]

Okay, I'm reversing my position on hearing that Biden has been talking about his run for the Senate. This is fucking ridiculously embarrassing. Give him to teleprompter and the virtual debate and tell him to shut up and read the prompter.

How much longer is this going on?

Relax, it will be over in 3 weeks plus a few days to count all illegal fraudulent fake ballots plus maybe a few weeks for the Supreme Court to rule on some conspiracy theories plus maybe a few months for Trump to concede but by that time no one will really care.

But lawyers are involved.

That couple of months could drag into how many years?

What about that IRS case, they've been working at it for nine years.

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

And finally wins the case, then gets to serve his four years.

Hello, 2033...

[suchmoon]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

[Gyfts]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

[Spendulus]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

Darn! The Republicans are so stupid. They should not be packing the court so that the Democrats can pack the court. Wait, that makes no sense. Well, but it's Democrats so things that make no sense are the norm. No reason to worry!

Okay, so we go down the rabbit hole of Pelosi running the vote count from the state reps, and that numerical count Republicans win and they pick Ted Cruz.

See? Yes, things could actually get worse than the Trumpery.

[Xembin]

President Trump spoken the mind of the citizens during the presidential debate, when he said he will do everything possible to make US proud in the areas of economy and educational sector in the country. I think Trump is the right man for the re-election that is coming up soon.

[eddie13]

Trump beat Biden in the debate and handily beat the propaganda overblown China virus..

I thought y’all said he was so old and fat that he would surely die or become incredibly ill with lifelong lasting effects from the news famous cold?

Imo, their will be another debate.. Just a little drama first..

Biden drank a bit too much of his own coolaid and is scared of the coof..

[bekti3]

I don't think I've ever watched a presidential debate, as I view them as a contest for the best liar. 

But I'll be watching this one - shocking that someone can still claim they pay a lot of taxes when someone is looking at their returns and can see they did not.

$400 million in loans coming due in the next presidential term?  Trump is the kind of guy who will sell out people for money.   I would think most tax evaders are that way.

the same as me, related to the debate, I have not watched it in full from start to finish. because when watching at a glance the points earned are only a few and only cause attacks on their respective personalities, Trump attacks with JB's personal issues, and vice versa.

Do two figures have to argue in order to convince US citizens to believe in choosing them instead of proving it with works that can be felt directly by Americans themselve

[PrimeNumber7]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

[Gyfts]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

My theory is that they have a bunch of special interest groups behind the democratic party that are pouring money into campaigns who are upset at the conservative slant on the court, so naturally democrats are advocating for court packing so they don't lose funding. Would make sense for Biden to keep saying that he'd give his position after the election so he can continue raising money. I don't actually have any proof of this, so full tinfoil hat disclosure, but this is my only guess because I cannot comprehend why anyone would think it's a good idea to pack the courts. It's so illogical and I truly believe democrats are not that stupid. There has to be some other motive involved.

Democrats know if they end up packing the court, Republicans will do the same so again, this has to be about money.

[TwitchySeal]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

Saying they won't could alienate younger more liberal voters (think Bernie Bros).

Saying they will could alienate Republicans that plan on voting for Biden.

I think it's entirely possible, and makes sense even, to keep packing the courts on the table without making a promise to actually do it.

[squatz1]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

Saying they won't could alienate younger more liberal voters (think Bernie Bros).

Saying they will could alienate Republicans that plan on voting for Biden.

I think it's entirely possible, and makes sense even, to keep packing the courts on the table without making a promise to actually do it.

I really think that, once you explain what 'packing the court is' to voters, they're REALLY not going to like it. While the Dems can try to explain it off as "WELL THEY PACKED THE COURT WITH RBG AND SCALIA" it's just not the same in the least. The GOP NEVER added seats at that time, they just used some political maneuvering to make sure that they were the ones with the choice on the court.

Say what you want about that, but I think the Dems would do the same if given the opportunity. Not me endorsing the strategy that Mitch and the GOP took, just pointing that out.

But I think that packing the courts is going to be something that the Republicans run with cause it seems like the only thing that has been sticking for them in terms of attacking. Maybe a bit more on the green new deal, fracking, etc. Fracking obviously isn't popular in all of the US, though in swing states it is (PA)

[otto2012]

Trump backed out of a virtual debate because he feared his mic would be muted LOL

Shame on NBC giving him a town hall at the same time as Biden's already scheduled town hall on ABC.

[Spendulus]

Okay you win. Maybe he's POTUS for nine-more while they argue the case, the appeal, the next level appeal, and the supreme court.

Ah, but the pesky constitution always getting in the way of well-intended dictatorships. Trump can't stay past noon January 20.

Nothing says having respect for the constitution quite like packing the courts so justices can legislate from the bench, effectively getting rid of separations of power.

There is a reason why both Biden and Harris are refusing to say if they will pack the SC, including in the debates. The only explanation is they know it is widely unpopular but plan on doing so anyway. If this was not the case, they would simply come out and say they are against court packing.

Saying they won't could alienate younger more liberal voters (think Bernie Bros).

Saying they will could alienate Republicans that plan on voting for Biden.

I think it's entirely possible, and makes sense even, to keep packing the courts on the table without making a promise to actually do it.

Ah, the fine practice of debating the nuances of the lies of the lying liars.

[suchmoon]

This is gonna hurt Trump's feelings:

Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 14.1 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC.

That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.

The Trump town hall averaged 10.9 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network. On MSNBC, Trump reached 1.8 million viewers, and on CNBC, about 720,000 viewers. So Trump's gross audience across the three channels was 13.5 million, still fewer than Biden's audience on ABC alone.

As for the non-debate itself, Biden's was boring and Trump's was cringy, as expected. Biden completely fumbled a question about black voters and Trump failed to denounce QAnon because - yep, he doesn't know them LOL. I can't recall anything else of particular importance but I only watched like 20 minutes of each.

[Spendulus]

This is gonna hurt Trump's feelings:

Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 14.1 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC.

That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.

The Trump town hall averaged 10.9 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network. On MSNBC, Trump reached 1.8 million viewers, and on CNBC, about 720,000 viewers. So Trump's gross audience across the three channels was 13.5 million, still fewer than Biden's audience on ABC alone.

As for the non-debate itself, Biden's was boring and Trump's was cringy, as expected. Biden completely fumbled a question about black voters and Trump failed to denounce QAnon because - yep, he doesn't know them LOL. I can't recall anything else of particular importance but I only watched like 20 minutes of each.

An interesting statistic (that we'll never get) is not how many "watched", but how many quit watching and after how long.

[squatz1]

This is gonna hurt Trump's feelings:

Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 14.1 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC.

That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.

The Trump town hall averaged 10.9 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network. On MSNBC, Trump reached 1.8 million viewers, and on CNBC, about 720,000 viewers. So Trump's gross audience across the three channels was 13.5 million, still fewer than Biden's audience on ABC alone.

As for the non-debate itself, Biden's was boring and Trump's was cringy, as expected. Biden completely fumbled a question about black voters and Trump failed to denounce QAnon because - yep, he doesn't know them LOL. I can't recall anything else of particular importance but I only watched like 20 minutes of each.

That's kinda the consensus among my friends that did watch it. Biden is boring, but there are some people who prefer the boring normalcy compared to Trumps attack filled night. Nothing wrong with liking either style of a townhall.

A better moderated debate would've been better and more informative. But yeah - we didn't do that. Instead we just let both candidates talk to tons of town hall people.... lol.

Maybe we'll see a 3rd debate?

[suchmoon]

An interesting statistic (that we'll never get) is not how many "watched", but how many quit watching and after how long.

You can probably get that if you ask Nielsen. Not sure if they take Bitcoin.