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December 15, 2020, 03:31:18 AM
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Looks to be a straightforward Electoral College vote... Biden takes the required votes.

With the same "historic" 306 votes as occurred four years ago.  

A nice win and we should give thanks to all the Trump supports who funded the various legal challenges that proved the Biden / Harris ticket won the Presidential election of 2020 by throwing out all claims of voter fraud.  Surely now those gambling sites that have held off will finally payout what has been know for many weeks.

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December 15, 2020, 03:46:15 AM
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Looks to be a straightforward Electoral College vote... Biden takes the required votes.

It was just a formality. The results were known many weeks before. And this time the margin of victory was not that thin, unlike the case we had in 2000 (when the election was decided based on the outcome from a single state - Florida, where the winning margin was just 0.009% or 537 votes). Theoretically there is a chance of faithless electors, but in real life it seldom occurs.

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December 15, 2020, 09:35:59 AM
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Looks to be a straightforward Electoral College vote... Biden takes the required votes.

With the same "historic" 306 votes as occurred four years ago.  

A nice win and we should give thanks to all the Trump supports who funded the various legal challenges that proved the Biden / Harris ticket won the Presidential election of 2020 by throwing out all claims of voter fraud.  Surely now those gambling sites that have held off will finally payout what has been know for many weeks.

@Timelord2067 all the sportsbooks should instantly settle their elections bets now, because Trump has officially lost, and now if they delay it then one should immediately open a scam accusation thread against them. Furthermore it seems that Trump will yet not concede, and I wonder how long can he continue with these allegations, as it’s officially over for him.

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December 15, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
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 all the sportsbooks should instantly settle their elections bets now, because Trump has officially lost, and now if they delay it then one should immediately open a scam accusation thread against them. Furthermore it seems that Trump will yet not concede, and I wonder how long can he continue with these allegations, as it’s officially over for him.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/14/senate-republicans-biden-win-445309

It's just arrogant that made him wants to hang on the presidency, even if everybody points to Biden as the winner, I guess this sports book that still not paid their dues to winners are die hard Trump follows and still wishing that Trump can still win the election, those who did not get paid should open a scam accusation, it's about time, their accusations now has basis.
It's time to close everything about the recent election because even what Trump's want to prove yet everything is Pointing the win to Biden so move on and be professional enough to accept defeat.
There is another chance for Him and try to take that in future,but for now give the presidency to the winning opponent so America will start a new now.
because this hindering the good reputation of election if will continue to prevent Biden to be proclaimed .

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December 15, 2020, 11:42:53 AM
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How can those who hold bets on these sportsbetting sites file a scam accusation?
They will just tell you their odds provider has not settled the bets due to their rules on elections.
Just like with pinnacle refusing to grade these bets where BetBTC has them as their sole odds provider, having already saying it on their thread.

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December 15, 2020, 04:37:06 PM
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All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

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December 15, 2020, 05:36:28 PM
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All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink
^^ I can confirmed this! ^^
After along while my bet has finally settled. Shocked

Looks like pinnacle your provider finally came to their senses and entered into a settlement with all their players. Wink

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December 15, 2020, 06:37:39 PM
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All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

Wow!! That's the way to go. Whether the election results will be challenged or not is an entirely different topic. But the gamblers have already waited for more than one month. It is not fair to keep them waiting for anymore, especially when the results are certified, and the electoral college has voted in favor of Biden. I just hope that the other gambling sites will also follow your example.
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December 15, 2020, 06:49:13 PM
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All 2020 US Presidential bets have been settled at BetBTC.

We appreciate your patience.  Wink

Wow!! That's the way to go. Whether the election results will be challenged or not is an entirely different topic. But the gamblers have already waited for more than one month. It is not fair to keep them waiting for anymore, especially when the results are certified, and the electoral college has voted in favor of Biden. I just hope that the other gambling sites will also follow your example.
While I am sorry for the gamblers that had to wait that long at the same time it is not the fault of the casinos, what happened was something completely out of the norm, while Biden seemed to have an advantage the results were so close in many states that they refused to give the electoral votes to Biden so he could not be proclaimed the winner.

Even Biden was moderate enough to not proclaim himself the winner and was smart enough to delay this until he was officially recognized as such, then it came the legal battles and when you understand this it is natural the bets have been set until today.
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December 15, 2020, 08:23:33 PM
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as promised the bet on freebitco.in have been paid out too (in favor of Biden, of course).

there's still some free money going on ftx, seems like the contract will stay active, which is a bit weird since the outcome is already known...
but well, not complaining.

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December 15, 2020, 11:42:59 PM
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Good that the sites who promised it settled.

Looks to be a straightforward Electoral College vote... Biden takes the required votes.

With the same "historic" 306 votes as occurred four years ago.  

A nice win and we should give thanks to all the Trump supports who funded the various legal challenges that proved the Biden / Harris ticket won the Presidential election of 2020 by throwing out all claims of voter fraud.  Surely now those gambling sites that have held off will finally payout what has been know for many weeks.

Actually Trump "only" got 304 Electoral College votes in 2016, and called that historic and a landslide (it was neither), so Biden's victory is bigger.
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December 16, 2020, 01:50:24 AM
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@Timelord2067 all the sportsbooks should instantly settle their elections bets now, because Trump has officially lost, and now if they delay it then one should immediately open a scam accusation thread against them. Furthermore it seems that Trump will yet not concede, and I wonder how long can he continue with these allegations, as it’s officially over for him.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/14/senate-republicans-biden-win-445309

Up until inauguration day, Trump, like it or not, is still the POTUS.  At noon on inauguration day, President elect Biden and Vice President Elect Harris will be sworn in at which point Trump becomes an ordinary citizen - one of the few in the US who have an "Honorific" in this case "Mr. President".  Although people call him Mr. President, after noon on inauguration day, The Don is just another Joe out of a job.

Once Biden is sworn in as POTUS, Trump can be politely asked to leave any Government property (including the White House) and, if he refuses, he can be arrested for trespass and force-ably removed.

I think Trump will leave peacefully at noon and go down in history like Nixon did with either a one finger salute, or, more likely, for the first time in his presidency, act the statesman he should have been.  Thank the staff, salute the guards and get on Marine One and be flown to the airport where he'll get on one of his "Trump" logo aircraft and fly to Florida to play golf the same afternoon.

I'm not sure why any gambling sites would still be holding onto wagers for the presidency - in four years' time there should a a proper disclosure on which day they will pay out so that it is much clearer when and what circumstances the win occurs.

Actually Trump "only" got 304 Electoral College votes in 2016, and called that historic and a landslide (it was neither), so Biden's victory is bigger.

Not sure where I heard the numbers were identical, if Biden got two more votes then that's just another slap-down for Trump by Biden/Harris.

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December 16, 2020, 09:07:14 AM
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Dear Community,

The 2020 US Presidential Election bets have been graded - finally!

Our thanks to everyone for your participation on this thread. What a rollercoaster ride - your comments have been both insightful and at times hilarious! (Yes, we read every comment on the thread!)

We have updated our post-US presidential election page, just for you.
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December 16, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
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Actually Trump "only" got 304 Electoral College votes in 2016, and called that historic and a landslide (it was neither), so Biden's victory is bigger.

Trump might have received slightly less number of Electoral College votes compared to what Biden received in 2020, but the fact remains that he won most of the states with a larger margin. During this time, Biden won 3 states with margins of 20,000 or less (Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin). Back in 2016, Trump had a margin of less than 20K only in the state of Michigan.

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December 16, 2020, 11:30:05 AM
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Do you mean the swing states ? Because overall Trump got 3 million votes less than Clinton, and now 7 million votes less than Biden...

Keeping in mind he's an incumbent, which usually is a huge advantage in the US. Only presidents considered as failures have lost reelection...
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really curious to see that now that the decision is 100% sure what FTX will do with their contracts.

https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMPGO/USD and https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMPSTAY/USD will really stay running until February 1st or they could be terminated earlier?

maybe this is a question for Sam.

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really curious to see that now that the decision is 100% sure what FTX will do with their contracts.

they said from day 1 that tokens settle on february 1. i'm pretty confident that's what will happen.

amazingly, TRUMPSTAY is still trading at 0.078. Roll Eyes

I'm not sure why any gambling sites would still be holding onto wagers for the presidency - in four years' time there should a a proper disclosure on which day they will pay out so that it is much clearer when and what circumstances the win occurs.

that would be nice, but it's impossible to do in a way where books are 100% hedged in every situation. in 99.9% of cases, i think we could assume that by the december 14th election certification, that the results have be decided. but what about that 0.01% chance? what if legal challenges (more substantial ones than seen in this election) drag out into january? if they promise in the terms a specific date and the results still aren't clear at that time, they're put between a rock and a hard place: pay out when there is uncertainty or otherwise risk massive lawsuits.

that's why it's always gonna be "at their discretion".

in fact, technically, congress can still overturn biden's electoral college win. there is already one house representative vowing to challenge it when they reconvene in january. he needs to find a republican senator to co-sign the challenge---no one has stepped up yet. Tongue
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yes figmentofmyass, I'm expecting that to be true as well.

and also yes: there's still some free money on the table, TRUMPGO is trading at 0.943 to so for those willing to hold until February there's an easy 3-4%+ free to be grabbed there.

just a matter of going there and longing TRUMPGO to 1 usd or shorting TRUMPSTAY to 0 usd...

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It is understandable that all casinos wanted to wait until it was official, but I never really understood what "official" meant. I mean votes came out, who do you think counts those votes? Biden supporters?

I mean did people assumed that Biden voters just went out and counted the voters and throw out all trump votes and double counted Biden votes or something?

It was official results on day one, well some states counted a bit later but it was counted, when votes are counted and results are in, we have the result, what else do you really need? All the legal battles? Those were for the show, those were there so that Trump could say he didn't lose, he was frauded and that is what he was trusting, because he KNEW he lost, but he would never dare say that and those legal battles were all part of the show.

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December 18, 2020, 05:38:54 PM
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It is understandable that all casinos wanted to wait until it was official, but I never really understood what "official" meant. I mean votes came out, who do you think counts those votes? Biden supporters?

In USA electors select president not people. in 2016 six electors did not cast vote as they should. Not sure how was this year.  It is a strange system. Electors could simply decide to vote differently as voters decided in their state. Those electors will probably not be electors anymore next year.
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