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October 05, 2020, 10:45:04 AM
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I don't think Arcas is not acting in good faith. Even if he has, he's still raising valid points. The way I look at it, you didn't think the terms and conditions are that important so you launched without updating them first. Some of the current players who signed up maybe happy playing but they probably didn't bother checking the terms and conditions.

the guy has a high level forum account and the way i look at its post looks that he is knowledgeable enough to throw  those accusiation  . they betnomi is the operator and as an operator they should check all the details first before they released the site  . terms and conditions is also not to be look down because this is one of the important part of site or a business  even if we say that most users dont care with it but there are higher authorities that will check it and file an accuse to the site if they found something that isnt right .
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October 05, 2020, 11:23:05 AM
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I don't think Arcas is not acting in good faith. Even if he has, he's still raising valid points. The way I look at it, you didn't think the terms and conditions are that important so you launched without updating them first. Some of the current players who signed up maybe happy playing but they probably didn't bother checking the terms and conditions.

Indeed, I tried reading their terms and conditions and other parts of their sites, only have seen that Viabet on almost everything on their site, for the FAQ section which is the most common section that a guess/customer is visiting, it should be updated too, but the most important one is their terms and conditions, upon reading those, confusions emerges as it isn't updated and refers to their parent company Viabet.

All things went clear being the discussion continuing on this ANN thread of theirs. I really thought the terms and conditions on your site was not yours since you are referring to Viabet. Good think this will be updated soon.

Just to commend betnomi, I really like your rebranding, I was really amazed by the UI at my first glance to your website.
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October 05, 2020, 01:11:36 PM
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the guy has a high level forum account and the way i look at its post looks that he is knowledgeable enough to throw  those accusiation  . they betnomi is the operator and as an operator they should check all the details first before they released the site  . terms and conditions is also not to be look down because this is one of the important part of site or a business  even if we say that most users dont care with it but there are higher authorities that will check it and file an accuse to the site if they found something that isnt right .

It looks like most of you don't even make any effort to read any of the previous comments and just throw around your personal opinion. We have already stated multiple times, it a work in progress and are very aware from the onset but it looks like it never stops.





Indeed, I tried reading their terms and conditions and other parts of their sites, only have seen that Viabet on almost everything on their site, for the FAQ section which is the most common section that a guess/customer is visiting, it should be updated too, but the most important one is their terms and conditions, upon reading those, confusions emerges as it isn't updated and refers to their parent company Viabet.

All things went clear being the discussion continuing on this ANN thread of theirs. I really thought the terms and conditions on your site was not yours since you are referring to Viabet. Good think this will be updated soon.

Just to commend betnomi, I really like your rebranding, I was really amazed by the UI at my first glance to your website.


Thanks for your kind words, we appreciate it and we will never let you down. Work is in progress. Smiley

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October 05, 2020, 01:22:48 PM
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the guy has a high level forum account and the way i look at its post looks that he is knowledgeable enough to throw  those accusiation  . they betnomi is the operator and as an operator they should check all the details first before they released the site  . terms and conditions is also not to be look down because this is one of the important part of site or a business  even if we say that most users dont care with it but there are higher authorities that will check it and file an accuse to the site if they found something that isnt right .

It looks like most of you don't even make any effort to read any of the previous comments and just throw around your personal opinion. We have already stated multiple times, it a work in progress and are very aware from the onset but it looks like it never stops.





Indeed, I tried reading their terms and conditions and other parts of their sites, only have seen that Viabet on almost everything on their site, for the FAQ section which is the most common section that a guess/customer is visiting, it should be updated too, but the most important one is their terms and conditions, upon reading those, confusions emerges as it isn't updated and refers to their parent company Viabet.

All things went clear being the discussion continuing on this ANN thread of theirs. I really thought the terms and conditions on your site was not yours since you are referring to Viabet. Good think this will be updated soon.

Just to commend betnomi, I really like your rebranding, I was really amazed by the UI at my first glance to your website.


Thanks for your kind words, we appreciate it and we will never let you down. Work is in progress. Smiley

You are constantly trying to defend your own and dismiss all arguments that are put forward. To be clear: I'm not here to burn down your site. I did not say anything about scam.
You should try to make this criticism work in your favor.
If you start reasoning hypothetically, it is a major problem for both Betnomi and the customer that the company is now called "Viabet" in the terms and conditions.
Hypothesis 1: A customer deposits 2 bitcoins, wins 2 bitcoins and has 4 bitcoins as balance. He wants to have this paid out, but in principle Betnomi can easily refuse this because from a legal point of view he has entered into a commitment via the general terms and conditions with the company Viabet. That is legally binding.
Hypothesis 2: And it also works to your disadvantage for yourself. Suppose someone deposits 5 bitcoins, but loses them. Then he realizes that he has played on a different platform than the company he does business with. Then he could legally indicate that those bitcoins have not been deposited and used in accordance with the general terms and conditions, and he could file a claim. I think you're in bad shape as Betnomi after all. So it is important for both the customer and the betting site that the terms and conditions are correct. Spelling mistakes and the like aside, no one will go over that. But mention Viabet repeatedly in your terms, while claiming nothing to do with it; I think many users have reservations about this and the explanation is not even relevant, I think. I wanted to wait a while with my message to give Betnomi the opportunity to remove Viabet from the terms and conditions, but at the time of writing Viabet is still mentioned in the terms and conditions. Extremely curious. It is for your own interest and for the interest of the customer that this is correctly updated asap so that the customers can see which company they are really committed to.
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October 05, 2020, 01:49:03 PM
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You are constantly trying to defend your own and dismiss all arguments that are put forward. To be clear: I'm not here to burn down your site. I did not say anything about scam.
You should try to make this criticism work in your favor.
If you start reasoning hypothetically, it is a major problem for both Betnomi and the customer that the company is now called "Viabet" in the terms and conditions.
Hypothesis 1: A customer deposits 2 bitcoins, wins 2 bitcoins and has 4 bitcoins as balance. He wants to have this paid out, but in principle Betnomi can easily refuse this because from a legal point of view he has entered into a commitment via the general terms and conditions with the company Viabet. That is legally binding.
Hypothesis 2: And it also works to your disadvantage for yourself. Suppose someone deposits 5 bitcoins, but loses them. Then he realizes that he has played on a different platform than the company he does business with. Then he could legally indicate that those bitcoins have not been deposited and used in accordance with the general terms and conditions, and he could file a claim. I think you're in bad shape as Betnomi after all. So it is important for both the customer and the betting site that the terms and conditions are correct. Spelling mistakes and the like aside, no one will go over that. But mention Viabet repeatedly in your terms, while claiming nothing to do with it; I think many users have reservations about this and the explanation is not even relevant, I think. I wanted to wait a while with my message to give Betnomi the opportunity to remove Viabet from the terms and conditions, but at the time of writing Viabet is still mentioned in the terms and conditions. Extremely curious. It is for your own interest and for the interest of the customer that this is correctly updated asap so that the customers can see which company they are really committed to.

I stated previously we will no longer engage you but, your level of arrogance is through the roof and has to be addressed. You think you know everything but you obviously don't! We had a website with terms and conditions and all other secondary pages written, checked for every issues and was authenticated. We made a new website from a template. What do you expect, write up everything from scratch? Yes, that would be silly. We are modifying our new template and when we get to those pages, we will simply import content from previous website. Its that simple! Secondly, don't come and act like you are some kind of a lawyer or something and by the way, we don't care if you are! 

You are not here to burn down our site. Explain what this is supposed to mean "Is all this safe guys? I get a very bad feeling about this". We categorically stated these are placeholder text on our new template and we are working around the clock to update everything maximum within 10 days but, you either didn't bother enough to read previous comments (you would if you are sincere and wanted answers) or just wanted to drag this for some other reason. 

We spent months trying to rectify similar issues that were created out of thing air.  Anyone who has been paying some kind of attention to our project knows, we always do our best to answer any kind of questions and or provide all requested information's and clarifications. If you have questions or find something curious, or unexplainable, simply ask us a question, documentation or for clarification. If we fail to do that, then you are in the clear to throw around accusations etc but we are not going to sit down for you to lecture us about anything for that matter.

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October 05, 2020, 04:09:37 PM
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sorry but I don't see anything arrogant in the behavior of arcas. he gives you good learning points and criticism. at this point, your site has only just been promoted here. be happy that there are people who are critical so that you have the chance to make updates instead of attacking people based on their posts. you think very lightly about the general terms and conditions. if I saw such terms and conditions with a separate company, I would leave immediately as a customer.

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the guy has a high level forum account and the way i look at its post looks that he is knowledgeable enough to throw  those accusiation  . they betnomi is the operator and as an operator they should check all the details first before they released the site  . terms and conditions is also not to be look down because this is one of the important part of site or a business  even if we say that most users dont care with it but there are higher authorities that will check it and file an accuse to the site if they found something that isnt right .

It looks like most of you don't even make any effort to read any of the previous comments and just throw around your personal opinion. We have already stated multiple times, it a work in progress and are very aware from the onset but it looks like it never stops.

If that is the case, I think it is better if the  operator pull out the concern page and put it on under maintenance (updating) mode.  This way they can at least remove any concern regarding that aspect.




Indeed, I tried reading their terms and conditions and other parts of their sites, only have seen that Viabet on almost everything on their site, for the FAQ section which is the most common section that a guess/customer is visiting, it should be updated too, but the most important one is their terms and conditions, upon reading those, confusions emerges as it isn't updated and refers to their parent company Viabet.

All things went clear being the discussion continuing on this ANN thread of theirs. I really thought the terms and conditions on your site was not yours since you are referring to Viabet. Good think this will be updated soon.

Just to commend betnomi, I really like your rebranding, I was really amazed by the UI at my first glance to your website.


Thanks for your kind words, we appreciate it and we will never let you down. Work is in progress. Smiley

I checked your page, recently registered and found out that most of my favorite Casino game provider is not integrated in your site but nevertheless, I think I'll still try your games since I have not tried most of them for a new experience sake Smiley.  I hope all the confusions and concerns regarding the ToS will be solve as soon as possible.

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October 05, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
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I checked your page, recently registered and found out that most of my favorite Casino game provider is not integrated in your site but nevertheless, I think I'll still try your games since I have not tried most of them for a new experience sake Smiley.  I hope all the confusions and concerns regarding the ToS will be solve as soon as possible.


Thank you for your interest in our platform. We really hope you like the games. Currently, we only have a few providers but in the next few coming days, all the major providers will be activated as well.
Regarding the ToS, rest assured, we have prioritized it and will be updated ASAP. We will stop at nothing short of providing the most collection of the best games, second to none user experience and of course, first class customer service. Do not hesitate to reach out to us anytime for any reason. Smiley

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October 05, 2020, 05:26:23 PM
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I am quite happy that Betnomi has provided a lot of gaming services that are already available, especially with football betting, which I prefer here, I think this is complete with many leagues available, it is worth trying after I receive funds from the signature campaign and this should not be missed.

Regarding the ToS, I think it must be accelerated so that there are no problems in the slightest I think this will also take time but updates from Betnomi are very much waiting to see many updates that are continuously being made.

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October 05, 2020, 05:59:28 PM
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It doesn't really matter that the site is not yet complete. In the beginning there are always things that need to be adjusted. Is very normal in my eyes. Do not worry about that to much. Can you give clarity about this validator? if I click on it, nothing happens. This question was also asked a few days ago, but it hasn't been changed yet? I also see that Radon B.V. is used by many gambling sites on gambling sites. Does that mean that we are customers of Radon B.V. ?

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October 05, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
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It doesn't really matter that the site is not yet complete. In the beginning there are always things that need to be adjusted. Is very normal in my eyes. Do not worry about that to much. Can you give clarity about this validator? if I click on it, nothing happens. This question was also asked a few days ago, but it hasn't been changed yet? I also see that Radon B.V. is used by many gambling sites on gambling sites. Does that mean that we are customers of Radon B.V. ?

You are a customer of Betnomi. We are aware of these issues and they are being resolved. Kindly give us a few days.

Thank you.

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October 05, 2020, 08:25:16 PM
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I checked your page, recently registered and found out that most of my favorite Casino game provider is not integrated in your site but nevertheless, I think I'll still try your games since I have not tried most of them for a new experience sake Smiley.  I hope all the confusions and concerns regarding the ToS will be solve as soon as possible.


Thank you for your interest in our platform. We really hope you like the games. Currently, we only have a few providers but in the next few coming days, all the major providers will be activated as well.
Regarding the ToS, rest assured, we have prioritized it and will be updated ASAP. We will stop at nothing short of providing the most collection of the best games, second to none user experience and of course, first class customer service. Do not hesitate to reach out to us anytime for any reason. Smiley

I almost send an inquiry letter regarding my BTC deposits since it didn't get credited after 1 confirmation(but it get credited after the transaction got 2 confirmation), does it need 2 confirmation to be credited or it is just some delay?  Anyway, it seems the script on deposit status isn't finished yet since I cannot see any deposit status which made me worried and think whether my deposits went through or not.  



Btw, how can I claim the welcome  package ?

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October 05, 2020, 08:39:34 PM
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I almost send an inquiry letter regarding my BTC deposits since it didn't get credited after 1 confirmation(but it get credited after the transaction got 2 confirmation), does it need 2 confirmation to be credited or it is just some delay?  Anyway, it seems the script on deposit status isn't finished yet since I cannot see any deposit status which made me worried and think whether my deposits went through or not.  



Btw, how can I claim the welcome  package ?


You are correct. Deposits requires 2 confirmations. Our deposit page should look something like this when we are done.
Regarding the bonuses and promotions, these should be automatically available to you on registrations/ deposit. But for now, i would have to manually activate this for you.
Just pm me. Thank you

 

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October 05, 2020, 08:48:14 PM
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You are correct. Deposits requires 2 confirmations. Our deposit page should look something like this when we are done.
Regarding the bonuses and promotions, these should be automatically available to you on registrations/ deposit. But for now, i would have to manually activate this for you.
Just pm me. Thank you


Done sending you a pm.   Thank you for the prompt reply.

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You are correct. Deposits requires 2 confirmations. Our deposit page should look something like this when we are done.
Regarding the bonuses and promotions, these should be automatically available to you on registrations/ deposit. But for now, i would have to manually activate this for you.
Just pm me. Thank you


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Your bonus has been credited and you are most welcome.

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I see a number of people have a lot of questions about things on the site. the operator responds every time it is modified in a few days.
my big question is really: why does a site go online that is unfinished and where the general terms and conditions are incorrect with names of the wrong companies? you can only get in trouble with this. if you have nothing to do with viabet, then you mention a company in the general terms and conditions that that company would not know about? the owner of viabet will be happy with that

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October 05, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
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I see a number of people have a lot of questions about things on the site. the operator responds every time it is modified in a few days.
my big question is really: why does a site go online that is unfinished and where the general terms and conditions are incorrect with names of the wrong companies? you can only get in trouble with this. if you have nothing to do with viabet, then you mention a company in the general terms and conditions that that company would not know about? the owner of viabet will be happy with that

Like you said, many people have already asked and we explained. Can you tell us what exactly your point is?

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October 05, 2020, 10:10:20 PM
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I see a number of people have a lot of questions about things on the site. the operator responds every time it is modified in a few days.
my big question is really: why does a site go online that is unfinished and where the general terms and conditions are incorrect with names of the wrong companies? you can only get in trouble with this. if you have nothing to do with viabet, then you mention a company in the general terms and conditions that that company would not know about? the owner of viabet will be happy with that

Like you said, many people have already asked and we explained. Can you tell us what exactly your point is?

Is Viabet company your white label/software supplier? I do not believe there is any association at all. it does not make any sense why Viabet is stated on your terms, why not just write Nomibet instead of Viabet?
or was viabet randomly choosen?

on contact section is also viabet mentioned

If you wish to file a complaint regarding the website services, please send an e-mail to support@viabet.com.
Our customer support will review your claim and reply you in maximum 3 days time.


please clear the air and explain what viabet exactly is to everybody on the forum

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Last edit: October 05, 2020, 10:53:03 PM by betnomi
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Is Viabet company your white label/software supplier? I do not believe there is any association at all. it does not make any sense why Viabet is stated on your terms, why not just write Nomibet instead of Viabet?
or was viabet randomly choosen?

on contact section is also viabet mentioned

If you wish to file a complaint regarding the website services, please send an e-mail to support@viabet.com.
Our customer support will review your claim and reply you in maximum 3 days time.


please clear the air and explain what viabet exactly is to everybody on the forum


Already we stated multiple times, this is nothing but a site builder template. It is a standard template from which you build gaming website. In this context, viabet is just a dummy text.

As you can see in the following image, we have our own design which we are currently implementing.

 
 






I was offline for a while on the forum, but I see that there is a lot of gambling with bitcoins. Is this site something to try?


Welcome back. We will be more than happy to have you try out our platform and you will receive 60% deposit bonus with no wagering  requirements Smiley  Cant get any better lol  Wink

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