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October 07, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
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I read many negative things. Anyway, this is not a reason why this casino should not be trusted at this moment. When they do not pay out winnings, then we have reasons to write they would scam.
But not at the moment. On the other side I have to admit they have all the appearances against them by the story about copy paste information from another side.
Operator: Try to react more subtle and do not bite on the provokes in the topic, because that is what is happening now.


You are right and at this point, we are not even going to respond to him anymore. This is a narcissist's crying for attention which we will reframe from giving him any further. We do apologize for the initial strong words and reactions. When you work hard for something and you see someone trying to take it down, its natural to react in such a manner.  Some random guy claims a multinational gaming company is a scam and we are a scam as well since we are associated with them. Lol
We said those are nothing but standard industry templates of which many websites are built. If he had any ability to think, it would be clear days ago his accusations are bunk. So far, he pointed out 3-4 websites with the same or similar contents. Either everyone is copy each others content or this is a standard from which all rules are created. As promised, we are working  on updates and we will push them out tomorrow before this time and hopefully, things clear up.
This is the spirit from a project we want. Dedication level seems high as we expect from a project. Obviously hoping for the best from Betnomi and I will support the project as it looks accurate and legitimate to look. Yes we need unique things from new one and Betnomi is trying to bring it for us in near future very soon. I will refer and discuss it with all of my friends who are involved and interested for online casino. Good luck for the team.

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October 08, 2020, 11:14:48 AM
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Hope you have fun and good luck with your bets. Please, reach out to us anytime if you have further questions.

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But those are Round Handicaps, not Map Handicap 🤔 When I go to the main markets, I only see two out of THE three CS:GO main markets: Moneyline and Total maps

i did notice that you offer Map Handicap lines, but looks like it's only in Live matches, not in prematch, which is a bit odd

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October 08, 2020, 12:14:04 PM
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Maybe they decide only to display the markets that are only popular for these sports?

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October 08, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
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Hello Betnomi,

I have been testing casinos lately and checking if they block players from countries that are restricted according to their TOS. Betnomi was one of the casinos I tested a few days ago. You can read more about why I am doing these tests here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

Your TOS state that Turkey, France, and USA are some of the countries whose players aren't allowed to use your casino.
I used a VPN to check whether I would be able to enter and register accounts from restricted IPs.

I noticed that it isn't possible from a US IP. But I had no problems doing it with a Turkish and French IP address. Why are there no IP blocks for Turkish and French players if they are not allowed to gamble on Betnomi?

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October 08, 2020, 02:19:16 PM
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Hope you have fun and good luck with your bets. Please, reach out to us anytime if you have further questions.

https://i.imgur.com/u1mzC9E.png
But those are Round Handicaps, not Map Handicap 🤔 When I go to the main markets, I only see two out of THE three CS:GO main markets: Moneyline and Total maps

i did notice that you offer Map Handicap lines, but looks like it's only in Live matches, not in prematch, which is a bit odd


Hey, you are right. After checking some more, I noticed this market is available only for live matches. I will reach out to the trading team to get an explanation regarding this and if possible, we will enable this market for permatch as well so you can enjoy our Esports Smiley




Hello Betnomi,

I have been testing casinos lately and checking if they block players from countries that are restricted according to their TOS. Betnomi was one of the casinos I tested a few days ago. You can read more about why I am doing these tests here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

Your TOS state that Turkey, France, and USA are some of the countries whose players aren't allowed to use your casino.
I used a VPN to check whether I would be able to enter and register accounts from restricted IPs.

I noticed that it isn't possible from a US IP. But I had no problems doing it with a Turkish and French IP address. Why are there no IP blocks for Turkish and French players if they are not allowed to gamble on Betnomi?

We will remove the geo block from all countries. These are all restricted countries but, we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are not restricted in these countries and with the geo blocks, the subdomains are inaccessible as well. For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful. Smiley

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October 08, 2020, 02:40:38 PM
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For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful. Smiley
So if there are several countries that are prohibited in the T.O.S and they can access the betnomi with a warning, will this be safe in the future?  means the funds will be maintained and nothing is blocked?

 If this is the later why not banned it so completely that those of a forbidden country will think twice.

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For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful. Smiley
So if there are several countries that are prohibited in the T.O.S and they can access the betnomi with a warning, will this be safe in the future?  means the funds will be maintained and nothing is blocked?

 If this is the later why not banned it so completely that those of a forbidden country will think twice.

there are many problems to be solved. ireally do not understand why this site went online, while everything still needs to be adjusted and is not complete. in that respect they could take an example from exbet.io, which has launched a soft launch. then you can see if you run into problems. Betnomi wants to go online and see what the problems are. Of course that doesn't work. the fact that the Geo block does not work should be resolved quite easily by specialists. but given the fact that simple text in the general terms and conditions cannot be changed in almost a week, i suspect that the geo block is not going to happen on this site at all.

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It is good that they updated their Terms. Although it is only a few lines now. But at least they are working on it. Better late then never of course.
You should also update the validator in the footer. It could have saved a lot of problems and negative messages if you did this before you go online with the site.
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It is good that they updated their Terms. Although it is only a few lines now. But at least they are working on it. Better late then never of course.
You should also update the validator in the footer. It could have saved a lot of problems and negative messages if you did this before you go online with the site.

We are on it.

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Hope you have fun and good luck with your bets. Please, reach out to us anytime if you have further questions.

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But those are Round Handicaps, not Map Handicap 🤔 When I go to the main markets, I only see two out of THE three CS:GO main markets: Moneyline and Total maps

i did notice that you offer Map Handicap lines, but looks like it's only in Live matches, not in prematch, which is a bit odd


Hey, you are right. After checking some more, I noticed this market is available only for live matches. I will reach out to the trading team to get an explanation regarding this and if possible, we will enable this market for permatch as well so you can enjoy our Esports Smiley




Hello Betnomi,

I have been testing casinos lately and checking if they block players from countries that are restricted according to their TOS. Betnomi was one of the casinos I tested a few days ago. You can read more about why I am doing these tests here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278411.0

Your TOS state that Turkey, France, and USA are some of the countries whose players aren't allowed to use your casino.
I used a VPN to check whether I would be able to enter and register accounts from restricted IPs.

I noticed that it isn't possible from a US IP. But I had no problems doing it with a Turkish and French IP address. Why are there no IP blocks for Turkish and French players if they are not allowed to gamble on Betnomi?

We will remove the geo block from all countries. These are all restricted countries but, we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are not restricted in these countries and with the geo blocks, the subdomains are inaccessible as well. For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful. Smiley

What happens if I want to play the site from a country that is a prohibited country?

Will you let all forbidden countries just connect with your site, I read that correctly?

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October 08, 2020, 07:12:04 PM
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What happens if I want to play the site from a country that is a prohibited country?

Will you let all forbidden countries just connect with your site, I read that correctly?

No, players from jurisdictions that are restricted are totally not allowed to play on our website. After the geo block is removed. We will give a warning to users visiting from restricted area to refrain from doing so and put in measure such as hiding login and signup buttons for such users. We are not advocating for anyone to break the law.

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@betnomi, I want to be clear on this topic and I will take all the sides into consideration while asking this question - what if I'm from a restricted country but I use a VPN and if you ever ask, I give you some fake KYC details to withdraw my money from the website? How will you tackle these sort of things?
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October 08, 2020, 07:31:42 PM
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@betnomi, I want to be clear on this topic and I will take all the sides into consideration while asking this question - what if I'm from a restricted country but I use a VPN and if you ever ask, I give you some fake KYC details to withdraw my money from the website? How will you tackle these sort of things?


Customer satisfaction and experience is on top of our priority. We will do everything possible in the constrain of the law to protect and work with our users in preserving their privacy.
You are free to connect to our website using a vpn for your privacy but, we do not encourage users to use our services from restricted territories.

We will never limit or restrict users from withdrawing their funds for any reason except, when when we have undisputable evidence a user engages in fraudulent activities and or abuse our promotions and services to illegally take advantage of the platform or a request from the gaming authorities or a court order to take such action against a specific user. Outside of these circumstances, we will never restrict any user from withdrawals.

Thank you

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@betnomi, I want to be clear on this topic and I will take all the sides into consideration while asking this question - what if I'm from a restricted country but I use a VPN and if you ever ask, I give you some fake KYC details to withdraw my money from the website? How will you tackle these sort of things?


Customer satisfaction and experience is on top of our priority. We will do everything possible in the constrain of the law to protect and work with our users in preserving their privacy.
You are free to connect to our website using a vpn for your privacy but, we do not encourage users to use our services from restricted territories.

We will never limit or restrict users from withdrawing their funds for any reason except, when when we have undisputable evidence a user engages in fraudulent activities and or abuse our promotions and services to illegally take advantage of the platform or a request from the gaming authorities or a court order to take such action against a specific user. Outside of these circumstances, we will never restrict any user from withdrawals.

Thank you

Why do you remove the IP block in its entirety, if you subsequently allow that user of the corresponding IP address to enter the site? This is not entirely fair.
Now a user can still ignore that notification and just create an account and then deposit money. And if he wins big and wants to withdraw, you can say he signed up from a location that is banned and not allowed and take the funds and void his winnings. We saw this happening many times on other sites.
If someone deposits and gambles money, it probably isn't a problem. In this way you mislead customers.
Then why do you remove the IP filter? This is useless what you want to do now.

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October 08, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
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Why do you remove the IP block in its entirety, if you subsequently allow that user of the corresponding IP address to enter the site? This is not entirely fair.
Now a user can still ignore that notification and just create an account and then deposit money. And if he wins big and wants to withdraw, you can say he signed up from a location that is banned and not allowed and take the funds and void his winnings. We saw this happening many times on other sites.
If someone deposits and gambles money, it probably isn't a problem. In this way you mislead customers.
Then why do you remove the IP filter? This is useless what you want to do now.

Can you spend a few munities reading previous comments before sharing your opinion?  We stated this is because we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are currently being blocked for no good reason. There are no restricted jurisdictions for these other applications.

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October 08, 2020, 07:54:52 PM
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We will never limit or restrict users from withdrawing their funds for any reason except, when when we have undisputable evidence a user engages in fraudulent activities and or abuse our promotions and services to illegally take advantage of the platform or a request from the gaming authorities or a court order to take such action against a specific user. Outside of these circumstances, we will never restrict any user from withdrawals.

Thank you

Are multiple accounts allowed?
I am asking this as I know about some sportsbetting websites which do not allow more than 1-2 accounts to stop misusing their bonuses and promotions. If some user from an allowed country makes 2 accounts to take advantage of a special bonus, will you allow them to do that or will both their accounts be blocked? And if they use unique VPN each time to make 2 or more accounts on the site, is there any way for you to determine whether the user is the same or not?
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October 08, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
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Why do you remove the IP block in its entirety, if you subsequently allow that user of the corresponding IP address to enter the site? This is not entirely fair.
Now a user can still ignore that notification and just create an account and then deposit money. And if he wins big and wants to withdraw, you can say he signed up from a location that is banned and not allowed and take the funds and void his winnings. We saw this happening many times on other sites.
If someone deposits and gambles money, it probably isn't a problem. In this way you mislead customers.
Then why do you remove the IP filter? This is useless what you want to do now.

Can you spend a few munities reading previous comments before sharing your opinion?  We stated this is because we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are currently being blocked for no good reason. There are no restricted jurisdictions for these other applications.


Can you name the blacklisted countries for casino and blacklisted countries for sportsbook?
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October 08, 2020, 08:49:41 PM
 #158

@betnomi, I want to be clear on this topic and I will take all the sides into consideration while asking this question - what if I'm from a restricted country but I use a VPN and if you ever ask, I give you some fake KYC details to withdraw my money from the website? How will you tackle these sort of things?


You are free to connect to our website using a vpn for your privacy but, we do not encourage users to use our services from restricted territories.



So what you are actually saying here is that people from a prohibited country are allowed to use a VPN connection, but that it is not recommended. that is very different from prohibiting it.
you should ban this. I get the impression that the Operator is not well aware of all laws and regulations and that makes it very dangerous to open an account here. Management does not know what they are doing.

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October 08, 2020, 09:30:44 PM
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@betnomi, I want to be clear on this topic and I will take all the sides into consideration while asking this question - what if I'm from a restricted country but I use a VPN and if you ever ask, I give you some fake KYC details to withdraw my money from the website? How will you tackle these sort of things?


You are free to connect to our website using a vpn for your privacy but, we do not encourage users to use our services from restricted territories.



So what you are actually saying here is that people from a prohibited country are allowed to use a VPN connection, but that it is not recommended. that is very different from prohibiting it.
you should ban this. I get the impression that the Operator is not well aware of all laws and regulations and that makes it very dangerous to open an account here. Management does not know what they are doing.

Its contradictory because they do prohibit out several or restricted countries but telling or saying that they can connect via VPN? of course they can but its odd that someone in admin do make out such
suggestion.This had been always a violation on sites Terms but we do know that people cant really be completely stopped even if theyre restricted.They would play as long they do like.

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Last edit: October 08, 2020, 11:03:56 PM by betnomi
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Its contradictory because they do prohibit out several or restricted countries but telling or saying that they can connect via VPN? of course they can but its odd that someone in admin do make out such
suggestion.This had been always a violation on sites Terms but we do know that people cant really be completely stopped even if theyre restricted.They would play as long they do like.






So what you are actually saying here is that people from a prohibited country are allowed to use a VPN connection, but that it is not recommended. that is very different from prohibiting it.
you should ban this. I get the impression that the Operator is not well aware of all laws and regulations and that makes it very dangerous to open an account here. Management does not know what they are doing.


No, we are not suggesting you can use VPN from restricted locations to by pass the laws. That is not the only use of a VPN. Some people will prefer to keep their IP's private. We are simply saying you can access our site via VPN as long as you are not from a restricted jurisdiction and you are not breaking our countries laws.

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