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October 05, 2020, 01:37:06 AM
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I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)
https://i.imgur.com/8AXGw3A.png
If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?
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October 05, 2020, 02:21:24 AM
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I think their site is just like some 3D web games that are using some high-end graphics and when your PC is not really updated or old, you will face some problems such as this one. I don't think it's possible to use our system for mining cause we will know every time we exit their website our system will back to normal. Also, they might just be using some programs that have some lots of bugs that cause such a problem. either way, let's wait for the other opinion maybe they know the truth behind those slow performance every time you used their site.

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October 05, 2020, 02:35:43 AM
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You're running an auto-bet program and you're wondering why your PC is running hot?  Are you sure you know what you are doing?

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You're running an auto-bet program and you're wondering why your PC is running hot?  Are you sure you know what you are doing?

 I am not using an autobet program (I think you mean a bot). I am just running the autobet in the webpage itself.
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October 05, 2020, 02:56:14 AM
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Wait, can you explain more details about autobet? Because I just think that you use software to play gambling such as bots or applications that help you run automated. If that so, perhaps, that is why the temperature on your PC is high because, as far as I know, the software will load the component inside the bot to run automatically.

But I don't think the gambling website will use our PC to mining cryptocurrency, although that can be possible if you download something from the site to run the games. There are possibilities to see that things happen in PC, but unfortunately, we don't know why. Perhaps, you can restart your PC and only use a browser which doesn't consume many memories.

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So you don't use the autobet to play the game. Hm, that is strange because so far, I don't have the same experience as you. Did you check everything on your PC and make sure all of your software is up to date? What is the result if you don't use the autobet? Did the temperature is getting high too? If it's not getting high, perhaps, you can use manual bet to prevent the high temperature.
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October 05, 2020, 03:00:00 AM
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I don't think that it's coming from the autobet feature of the website or casino where you are playing. There must be some other apps that you haven't noticed you downloaded and runs a miner into your PC.

I've met one of those miner when I did an entire cleanup to my PC and I've found it on my downloads folder. Take note that I'm not running the app and I've never launched it but it has consumed a space of my PC.

Try to do a cleanup with most of your downloads or apps you have installed.

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October 05, 2020, 03:10:21 AM
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Wait, can you explain more details about autobet? Because I just think that you use software to play gambling such as bots or applications that help you run automated. If that so, perhaps, that is why the temperature on your PC is high because, as far as I know, the software will load the component inside the bot to run automatically.

But I don't think the gambling website will use our PC to mining cryptocurrency, although that can be possible if you download something from the site to run the games. There are possibilities to see that things happen in PC, but unfortunately, we don't know why. Perhaps, you can restart your PC and only use a browser which doesn't consume many memories.

Edit:

So you don't use the autobet to play the game. Hm, that is strange because so far, I don't have the same experience as you. Did you check everything on your PC and make sure all of your software is up to date? What is the result if you don't use the autobet? Did the temperature is getting high too? If it's not getting high, perhaps, you can use manual bet to prevent the high temperature.

I am sure that "Web Content" process (in the picture) is linked to the website. When I end it, the tab crash.
If this process is not for mining, maybe the autobet feature is a CPU consumer.
When I am not using autobet, it consumes less CPU.

I don't think that it's coming from the autobet feature of the website or casino where you are playing. There must be some other apps that you haven't noticed you downloaded and runs a miner into your PC.

I've met one of those miner when I did an entire cleanup to my PC and I've found it on my downloads folder. Take note that I'm not running the app and I've never launched it but it has consumed a space of my PC.

Try to do a cleanup with most of your downloads or apps you have installed.

Weeks ago, I downloaded minergate and it was CPU super consumer. I deleted it and as I said the "Web Content" process is related to the website.
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I don't think that it's coming from the autobet feature of the website or casino where you are playing. There must be some other apps that you haven't noticed you downloaded and runs a miner into your PC.

I've met one of those miner when I did an entire cleanup to my PC and I've found it on my downloads folder. Take note that I'm not running the app and I've never launched it but it has consumed a space of my PC.

Try to do a cleanup with most of your downloads or apps you have installed.

The browser Maxthon was rumored to run a mining program in the background while their browser was open years before this announcement was made.

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October 05, 2020, 04:01:40 AM
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Weeks ago, I downloaded minergate and it was CPU super consumer. I deleted it and as I said the "Web Content" process is related to the website.
'Related' doesn't mean it is.
This is serious accusation to the well known site like wolfbet, you better have a strong valid proof instead speculative one.

Mind to check your computer temperature at the ilde position? How much it shows and compare it to when you running those autobets ? Do it multiple times and you might can be more sure with what you accused.
I'm not denying there's a cpu mining attempt, there's a lot of suspicious websites that using its visitors to mine through their cpu but this one just lack of evidence.

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October 05, 2020, 04:47:34 AM
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Drop your idle temps and any type of processes running during your test. What were you also auto gambling in with? Also are you sure that's temp and not usage? As far as I know, that's usage just based on how numbers are made. Not really familiar with Ubuntu so I can't really judge it fully though. Plus, it'd probably be a lot better to provide a better screenshot, one that probably provides the entire list of processes used when you're only using said gambling casinos. I tried it out myself with dice, no issues, HWinfo still provides the same idle temps and same CPU usage when I'm just doing normal stuff (aka not opening stuff that can stress out my CPU or anything).

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October 05, 2020, 05:08:24 AM
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Weeks ago, I downloaded minergate and it was CPU super consumer. I deleted it and as I said the "Web Content" process is related to the website.
'Related' doesn't mean it is.
This is serious accusation to the well known site like wolfbet, you better have a strong valid proof instead speculative one.

Mind to check your computer temperature at the ilde position? How much it shows and compare it to when you running those autobets ? Do it multiple times and you might can be more sure with what you accused.
I'm not denying there's a cpu mining attempt, there's a lot of suspicious websites that using its visitors to mine through their cpu but this one just lack of evidence.
he has a proof in his screenshot , i view the image and theres a name mining but the site wolfbet is also a popular gambling website and there is no simillar accuse like this reported on the past except from this  but what if we can also run a test and update on this thread later .  lets see if we can also see whats seen on his screenshot . my pc is already hot and the temperature can also gets hotter depending on the weather and on the site that you use or the actions that you do . temperature isnt a big deal but only the mining
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You're running an auto-bet program and you're wondering why your PC is running hot?  Are you sure you know what you are doing?

 I am not using an autobet program (I think you mean a bot). I am just running the autobet in the webpage itself.
I'm not sure with this one but since the computer is still running, I think this can add to your cost. Better to try if you bet normally for 1 hr continuously compare on using the auto bet function of the specific crypto gambling site and I'm sure you'll get the answer that you want. You also have to observe what other apps that is running on your pc, and check your CPU if they are still in a good condition.

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October 05, 2020, 06:02:53 AM
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TO BE CLEAR AND HONEST

I am a big fan of the wolf.bet website and I created this thread to share my experience with it.
Experts can test and tell us if this CPU consumer process is due to mining or to the autobet feature it self (bugs, not well-coded ...).

PLEASE RE-READ THE THREAD: I am asking a question and I am not accusing any website.
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I don't think that it's coming from the autobet feature of the website or casino where you are playing. There must be some other apps that you haven't noticed you downloaded and runs a miner into your PC.

I've met one of those miner when I did an entire cleanup to my PC and I've found it on my downloads folder. Take note that I'm not running the app and I've never launched it but it has consumed a space of my PC.

Try to do a cleanup with most of your downloads or apps you have installed.

Weeks ago, I downloaded minergate and it was CPU super consumer. I deleted it and as I said the "Web Content" process is related to the website.
Have you tried the same process with your browser? like clearing cache or do you have extensions installed on your browser? if you try to off the autobet feature for those casinos and gamble, have you checked if the same thing comes out when you do it?

The browser Maxthon was rumored to run a mining program in the background while their browser was open years before this announcement was made.
I don't know about Maxthon but is this browser used in Ubuntu OS? is this the browser you use guufullme?

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October 05, 2020, 08:39:14 AM
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Experts can test and tell us if this CPU consumer process is due to mining or to the autobet feature it self (bugs, not well-coded ...).
That is a bug from the auto bet feature you've used. Can you tell us what is the name of the auto bet you've used?

Ther are possible happen that the cause of your CPU becomes heat is, heavy loads memory, airflow issues, and system cooling failure. You should clean your PC regularly because if you are talking CPU mining it seems impossible to happen to me.

Actually, that is normal to the CPU that will heat, that was designed to run a high temperature. If you have doubt on the auto bet you have used or installed in your PC, you can uninstall them to have free space in your PCU's memory.

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October 05, 2020, 09:05:23 AM
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The browser Maxthon was rumored to run a mining program in the background while their browser was open years before this announcement was made.

No, OP is running Firefox, Web Content is a Firefox process and is not linked to any website you have opened in a tab, it is the rendering process that transforms HTML and CSS into computer graphics and it also runs the Javascipt engine. For performance reasons there is usually one Web Content process running on each core. That's why a bunch of tabs crash if you kill it.

In short, there is nothing wrong with your computer OP, there is no mining software ruinning on it and you don't need to reinstall anything, it's just that the casino websites are built with heavyweight Javascipt that uses a lot of CPU power when you use them, also the way how some casino designs look attractive.

Even having Discord open makes the Web Content process use a lot of CPU but I know Discord is not running a crypto miner.

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Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

Not really sure if they are using CPU mining, but I want everybody to read this, Top sites infiltrated with credit card skimmers and crypto miners.

For the two sites you mentioned, perhaps it has something to do with your autobet.

There was one crash game that I played many months ago that also affected the performance of my CPU and my laptop was getting hot. I call their attention, but nothing come out of the investigation. So I completely stay away from that game and my machine comes to normal again. I've played with wolf.bet before but not really sure if I experience any CPU draining.
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October 05, 2020, 11:04:59 AM
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Are you serious about this:
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I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists.

You really tried almost all gambling sites that exist?  Specifically what "gambling" sites are you referring to, crypto-based betting sites, non-crypto betting sites or sites that allow specifically gambling(which could be both crypto and non-crypto based)
Do you have to leave you computer on to autobet or is this just a short autobet?
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Hello bitcoin talkers!

I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

Your website is affected by a malware. I hope you don't use any browser based wallets because then you are at risk of loosing money. But there's an easy way to remove this malware.

Just download Emsisoft malware protection tool which comes with a free trial period. Scan you pc and remove this malware. That should solve this issue!

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October 05, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
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For Firefox there are already known bugs that cause this behavior (main thread and web content with high CPU usage). Here is a bug report on the Mozilla website.

I don't know which browser you are using (if you have already mentioned it then I have overlooked it), but you could try to start the site with a different browser to see if this problem still exists?

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Hello bitcoin talkers!

I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

Have you tried it on other or different computers some sites are using java script and other scripts that makes it hard to your hardware to bear. I have no experience using the two gambling sites, but on other gambling sites with a lot of graphics doesn't heat up my computer, be sure your computer have a good ventilation, sometimes it's the one that causes the issues.
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October 05, 2020, 02:50:47 PM
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Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?


It's been a while since I did autobetting on casinos, usually I am doing manual gaming. For me I didn't notice any high running CPU or GPU when gambling. My PC just tends to very loud and warm when gaming some high texture games. So I can't confirm to a 100% that casinos are not using our PCs to mine, but in the games I played I didn't notice anything suspicious.
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October 05, 2020, 03:06:26 PM
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Ubuntu is more graphical in nature than other linux distros. So it will consume more GPU power and besides that you should have also mentioned your system config since that would have given us more info on your system performance. Low end CPUs generally get high temperature quicker. You can try using another browser to see if the results are the same.
If the problem persists then try reinstalling the OS. Make sure to backup your data if you reinstall the OS.
Also, you can use a tool called "Glances" which is available for Ubuntu to see a detailed analysis on CPU and GPU temperatures.

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NB: I am not using any bot. I am using the built-in autobet feature of the website.

I tried the same thing with chrome and another CPU consumer process appeared called "chrome=render=..."
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October 05, 2020, 07:20:56 PM
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You should check if you have fully uninstalled minergate as I have use in the past, I mine via 10 or more computers as i earn a good money at that time but  it will surely consume too much CPU.
But if you have fully uninstalled it then there is a big possibility that the you are mining in background using the website as web content are using 20% of your CPU.
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October 05, 2020, 07:27:40 PM
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Quite curious as well but I don't think casinos are using a hidden mining feature whenever you tried to play auto betting. I'm using windows and everything was fine whenever I try doing an auto bet but since you are using ubuntu maybe there's something to do with it.

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NB: I am not using any bot. I am using the built-in autobet feature of the website.

I tried the same thing with chrome and another CPU consumer process appeared called "chrome=render=..."
I did try on using up Opera browser and i havent seen any similar process as yours.


It do consume high memory though but not on CPU usage.Are you sure that this one came from wolf.bet itself or other one?

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I don't think that casinos use hidden mining tools, at least not those respectful ones. Besides that could be detected if check your computer thoroughly. Although I'm not fan of auto betting but for different reasons I don't think this feature is misused.

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NB: I am not using any bot. I am using the built-in autobet feature of the website.

I tried the same thing with chrome and another CPU consumer process appeared called "chrome=render=..."
I did try on using up Opera browser and i havent seen any similar process as yours.
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It do consume high memory though but not on CPU usage.Are you sure that this one came from wolf.bet itself or other one?

Checked out my taskmanager too if i would see some processes that isnt related to the apps or programs that i had launched and i have seen none.Also it do only consumes 9% of cpu usage and im opening lots of
browser tabs and Steam in background.I opened this one in Chrome and you can see it do consume out on minimal.

I don't think that casinos use hidden mining tools, at least not those respectful ones. Besides that could be detected if check your computer thoroughly. Although I'm not fan of auto betting but for different reasons I don't think this feature is misused.
That would really be shady if they do able to tagged along with that hidden CPU miner.Once bust up they surely their reputation would be fucked up thats why i dont think that they would really be aiming
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October 05, 2020, 09:02:59 PM
Last edit: October 05, 2020, 09:42:44 PM by ralle14
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I just tested both sites to see how high my cpu usage could go with the auto bets running at the same time and it took like 15%-20% max on the Edge browser.

Wolf bet had a low cpu usage ~5% but Luckyfish on the other hand takes up 10%-15% when i'm tabbed in.

It do consume high memory though but not on CPU usage.Are you sure that this one came from wolf.bet itself or other one?
Most likely it's luckyfish. I guess it takes more cpu usage because of the additonal animations(slider, balance update etc) similar to what stake have since they're pretty much the same.

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I don't think that casinos use hidden mining tools, at least not those respectful ones. Besides that could be detected if check your computer thoroughly. Although I'm not fan of auto betting but for different reasons I don't think this feature is misused.
Crypto gambling site are working well with me and my computer didn’t heat that much but I don’t think its possible for them to use our own GPU to mine, I don’t think technologies are too advance like this. I don’t gamble on autobet because you can’t have fun on that and technically you are gambling for the sole purpose of money and not to enjoy playing, I still choose to bet on my own and enjoy all the losses.

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October 05, 2020, 10:16:41 PM
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Your website is affected by a malware. I hope you don't use any browser based wallets because then you are at risk of loosing money. But there's an easy way to remove this malware.

Just download Emsisoft malware protection tool which comes with a free trial period. Scan you pc and remove this malware. That should solve this issue!

Nope, this isn't a malware at all. Take note that all of the browsers do take a high capacity on a user's RAM and running an auto-bet in a browser would simply make the browser run more as the user would open more applications other than that. Try using auto-bet in Google Chrome as well if your RAM is just 8gb or less. Soon, you'll see that your device would heat up as it tries to be at its maximum performance to run in background your auto-bet.

@OP, maybe you can tell us anything about your device's specs? Such as your CPU, RAM, and VCard. Because based on my understanding, running an auto-bet on a background esp in a browser would eat huge capacity in your processing units.

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October 05, 2020, 10:24:23 PM
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Ubuntu is more graphical in nature than other linux distros. So it will consume more GPU power
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No, actually Ubuntu uses the same amount of GPU power as other distributions if they run the same desktop environment. Bigger desktop environments will however use more GPU than smaller desktop environments (Gnome > KDE > XFCE...)

And besides, on Linux hardly anything uses the GPU except for a hardware-accelerated web browser so GPU temperature is not going to go much high.

Low end CPUs generally get high temperature quicker.

This is not correct, lower end CPUs have smaller clock speeds and more powerful CPUs have higher clock speeds and the higher the speed, the hotter the processor gets. It's basic thermodynamics.

CPUs have 3 or 4 built-in speed "levels" they switch between to adjust the clock rate, they don't run at arbitrary speeds in their range.

They also have a turbo mode that temporarily increases the clock speed to a higher limit until the processor gets very hot. This is what happens if you see 100% CPU usage.

Take note that all of the browsers do take a high capacity on a user's RAM and running an auto-bet in a browser would simply make the browser run more as the user would open more applications other than that.

More RAM usage does not increase processing therefore cannot make a computer heat up.

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October 05, 2020, 10:58:20 PM
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For a clear answer, we need to check the system resource sharing between open programs. Maybe the Chrome extensions consume high CPU and these extensions are directly linked with mentioned gambling websites. It is hard to say something without the proper analysis, but I am sure Wolf.bet will never use the user's computer for coin mining. By the way, you can use various software for cleaning the registry of Windows(or other OS), I recommend Auslogicv Boostspeed which I use it for weekly cleaning.

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October 06, 2020, 12:27:40 AM
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Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

At a time when computer resources were limited, developers spent a lot of effort on optimizing their programs and websites. Now it is considered that there is nothing to do this for. This is why browsers with multiple sites can consume so many resources. I stopped being surprised by this a long time ago.
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@OP, maybe you can tell us anything about your device's specs? Such as your CPU, RAM, and VCard. Because based on my understanding, running an auto-bet on a background esp in a browser would eat huge capacity in your processing units.

here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]
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@OP, maybe you can tell us anything about your device's specs? Such as your CPU, RAM, and VCard. Because based on my understanding, running an auto-bet on a background esp in a browser would eat huge capacity in your processing units.

here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]

Your CPU specification is more than enough to play offline gaming or online gaming. With 16 Gb RAM, I am sure you will not have a problem or lag in accessing one or more tabs in your browser. So there is something wrong with your OS because the process consumes high temperatures. Did you already check the add on for every browser you installed? If you forgot to install one or more add-on and that is from an unknown resource, that can make the process needs more.

The last thing you can do is reinstall your OS, install a clean installer, and don't use any add on for your browser to see if that will impact your CPU process or not because you can monitor in the process. Try just to install chrome and don't install the other browser, and see what will happen.
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@OP, maybe you can tell us anything about your device's specs? Such as your CPU, RAM, and VCard. Because based on my understanding, running an auto-bet on a background esp in a browser would eat huge capacity in your processing units.

here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]
That's a pretty good specification but I don't think those gambling site are using your CPU for mining, if you still doubt about it then don't use their auto-bet program and just enjoy betting on your own. Try to clean up everything on your computer, and check if your CPU is still good there might be wrong here but I don't conclude that those Gambling site are using your own CPU, I just can't imagine how this thing works, and auto-bet can't consume that much.
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Probably you have malware or virus on your PC that damages the software and eventually the hardware parts of the PC. I do not think that CPU were being use to mine and there is no relevance between mining and gambling site. If it does and the developer does not told the user about this then you can make a complain in their site.

This is the first time I have seen a discussion where gambling site has been integrated to mining. Probably there would be but chances are low. There should be more reason behind the program getting crashed or why the PC is hot after running the autobet program.
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Probably you have malware or virus on your PC that damages the software and eventually the hardware parts of the PC. I do not think that CPU were being use to mine and there is no relevance between mining and gambling site. If it does and the developer does not told the user about this then you can make a complain in their site.

This is the first time I have seen a discussion where gambling site has been integrated to mining. Probably there would be but chances are low. There should be more reason behind the program getting crashed or why the PC is hot after running the autobet program.
Same here i believe that OP's PC has virus or Malware in which creating this issue with it,I don't think that gambling sites has the ability to use our cpu for Mining without us knowing this.

@OP aren't you drunk or smoked asking this?because it is impossible to happen  Grin

@OP, maybe you can tell us anything about your device's specs? Such as your CPU, RAM, and VCard. Because based on my understanding, running an auto-bet on a background esp in a browser would eat huge capacity in your processing units.

here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]
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Hello bitcoin talkers!

I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?
Nonsense, gambling sites does not use our computers for CPU mining.Your CPU process is high because your PC consumes a lot of RAM visiting gambling sites . Most of the gambling sites nowadays uses high quality graphics interface which cause your PC to overheat and obviously this kind of sites will definitely consumes a lot of RAM. My PC specs are 16gb RAM and it's still lagging when i visit gambling sites. I suggest you upgrade your PC, mostly recommended is gaming PC cause they are built for taking a load of processes.

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October 06, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
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I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.

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October 06, 2020, 02:15:56 PM
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I think gambling places require very high ram because some of them use FPS so that they require more resources whereas for mining I think it will never happen like that, this is the same as playing FPS games you leave it all day which is sure the cache will accumulate and will slow down the process or device performance.

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October 06, 2020, 05:20:58 PM
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I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.

I also believe that they will not, it's illogical they will not make profit from doing this than making their gambling site, there are more money to make in running a gambling site than CPU mining, they will lose their reputation they will lose players they will lose profits, but I'd like to read the defence of these two gambling sites to prove their innocence.


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October 06, 2020, 06:13:00 PM
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Hello bitcoin talkers!

I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?
Nonsense, gambling sites does not use our computers for CPU mining.Your CPU process is high because your PC consumes a lot of RAM visiting gambling sites . Most of the gambling sites nowadays uses high quality graphics interface which cause your PC to overheat and obviously this kind of sites will definitely consumes a lot of RAM. My PC specs are 16gb RAM and it's still lagging when i visit gambling sites. I suggest you upgrade your PC, mostly recommended is gaming PC cause they are built for taking a load of processes.

Your statement is on point and I agree with it. This may be due to the capacity of your CPU, specifically the RAM, to accept and render HD graphics interfaces of the website. Upgrading your PC might be the best solution if you want to continue visiting the site without hassle.
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October 06, 2020, 06:22:55 PM
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Technically, NO.

How about performing several tests. Use different browsers and make sure that only a single browser is running at the same time (application process).

Record logs and from there, you can actually conclude if there's something wrong.

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October 06, 2020, 06:28:17 PM
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You're running an auto-bet program and you're wondering why your PC is running hot?  Are you sure you know what you are doing?
This is not normal. I don't think running auto-bet should cause the temperature of your computer to rise. How heavy are those bots that causes high CPU usage that results in high temperature? It is probably the browser or it is the casino that has a badly optimized auto-betting feature causing high CPU usage.
So far never heard anyone complaining about a problem like this. So highly likely this is just an isolated incident.

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October 06, 2020, 06:50:42 PM
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you can also use a chrome based extension called "minerblock" to avoid crypto mining websites to use you machine to mine while you're visiting the website.
not sure but maybe Brave browser already does that by default.

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October 06, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
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When I start an autobet in different websites

You're running an auto-bet program and you're wondering why your PC is running hot?  Are you sure you know what you are doing?
This is not normal. I don't think running auto-bet should cause the temperature of your computer to rise. How heavy are those bots that causes high CPU usage that results in high temperature? It is probably the browser or it is the casino that has a badly optimized auto-betting feature causing high CPU usage.
So far never heard anyone complaining about a problem like this. So highly likely this is just an isolated incident.
Auto-betting shouldn't really cause any problem because if they do then most of us would really complain the same thing but somehow people aren't really that concern much about their PC's statistics or condition once they do play and don't care if its running hot or what.

I tested out with several browsers and I didn't experience any problems about heating up or see some miner process or anything related to that.

I doubt that OP might have installed some malware because it nowhere can be found those process once I do ran off those programs and same goes for the rest of people
who had been replying this thread.

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October 06, 2020, 07:48:57 PM
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I have played at both casino you mentioned. I used their autobet function as well but haven't faced heat issue like you. Everything worked smoothly for me. Online casinos try to provide best experience to it's user for attracting more gambler. If a user continuously play there then the casino will have benefit for house edge. So a casino won't do anything like that with it's user.

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October 06, 2020, 08:53:47 PM
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I have played at both casino you mentioned. I used their autobet function as well but haven't faced heat issue like you. Everything worked smoothly for me. Online casinos try to provide best experience to it's user for attracting more gambler. If a user continuously play there then the casino will have benefit for house edge. So a casino won't do anything like that with it's user.
They wont really make any shady move like that because they do know that they are risking their websites reputation and it will really be the reason
for their failure if someone find out that they are secretly mining.Who would be a dumb gambling site owner will do that? Wolfbet had already established
their names into this market and same goes with that other site mentioned.Its just too nonsense if they will really make such move.I ran the auto bet
feature and I haven't see any problems about heating or cpu consumption.

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Not quite sure if they do this but I think they will not do this to their users especially if yes many of the users might be able to notice it but I think this is the first time I read issue about this kind of topic in regards with casinos I think the problem is within your PC or used OS I don't think gambling sites has something to do with this also casinos are already earning a lot of money on their website and there's no way to trick out their players for having a secret mining.

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No. Gambling sites aren't to blame why your CPU experienced high temperature.

It's no secret that browsers like Chrome and Firefox eat too much RAM but shouldn't be a cause for a high temp CPU if you are running only a single instance like for example one gambling site while using Autobot.

This might be related to a system error especially hardware. Try to diagnose it or search for some tweaks online about determining why CPU behaves likes that.

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October 06, 2020, 10:42:23 PM
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On top of that, no legit site can afford to be caught CPU mining on a client.
Something similar happened in my country few years ago, and it nearly bancrupt the company that did it.
As a PR response they said "they were testing it out", but it was clearly a bad attempt, since EU law dictates you have to notify the user
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On top of that, no legit site can afford to be caught CPU mining on a client.
Something similar happened in my country few years ago, and it nearly bancrupt the company that did it.
As a PR response they said "they were testing it out", but it was clearly a bad attempt, since EU law dictates you have to notify the user
thats a karma for them . what kind of test was that when they use someones cpu to mine ? thats not a test but its stealing on someone without them knowing it . it would be fine if they gave something at the end of the project but if they run away and spend all the profits that they made on mining , thats not acceptable for the poor users .

a legit site wont do this risky move because they are already earning enough on thier business but scam and illegal sites maybe .
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Hello bitcoin talkers!

I am a gambling fan who has almost tried all the gambling websites that exists. I love trying strategies, playing with numbers, studying probabilities and coding my strategies projections with R  Grin Tongue Roll Eyes
When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

Your website is affected by a malware. I hope you don't use any browser based wallets because then you are at risk of loosing money. But there's an easy way to remove this malware.

Just download Emsisoft malware protection tool which comes with a free trial period. Scan you pc and remove this malware. That should solve this issue!

He is on Linux where malware is not common at all.The CPu is not that high if he has a 5-7 years old computer and  the 20% Cpu usage with such processor is common.

Sure the website may use malware in the sense that they use your Cpu without your knowledge anytime you access their website.

As for your system I would not be worried but in case you are there are a few good antivirus also for Linux and I remember Eset and F-Secure to be available to Linux systems.

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October 07, 2020, 10:41:08 PM
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On top of that, no legit site can afford to be caught CPU mining on a client.
Something similar happened in my country few years ago, and it nearly bancrupt the company that did it.
As a PR response they said "they were testing it out", but it was clearly a bad attempt, since EU law dictates you have to notify the user
^ Definitely right, at this statement you will know your doubt. But believe me or not, this has happened to me.
I still remember the days where I was victimized by these hidden miners. They were using my PC. I was working on the main/central computer of our property when all of the PCs are not working properly. Some are going blackouts, blue screen, and sometimes hard to reboot. But when we double-check it, it was a malware that automatically mining using your computer without your consent. This is really disgusting!
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They were using my PC. I was working on the main/central computer of our property when all of the PCs are not working properly. Some are going blackouts, blue screen, and sometimes hard to reboot. But when we double-check it, it was a malware that automatically mining using your computer without your consent. This is really disgusting!

In that case, it might that you just can't remember or unaware that you gave access to those malware to enter your unit's system. In most cases, the malware won't just enter the system without the user's approval. There should be a thing that will trigger it.

In the case of OP, he is just playing on the gambling site in an auto-mode. There's no link we can consider as a bridge to how the supposed malware enters his PC. So I guess, there was an authorization made by OP accidentally either he installed or program, apps, etc.

To solve that, he really needs to do a quick scan using a strong anti-virus or malware detector program such as Malwarebytes.

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October 08, 2020, 05:20:46 AM
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Gambling websites don't use your CPU to mine lol. Because CPU mining isn't really that much profitable anymore, and neither they need it, because as casino they are already making good money Wink

Maybe, your PC is becoming hot due to other issues which isn't mining, check your system for errors or apps running in background or maybe the websites require you to have high-level graphics because of their UI. It depends on a lots of things for what your are experiencing to happen!
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October 08, 2020, 05:49:55 AM
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Gambling websites don't use your CPU to mine lol. Because CPU mining isn't really that much profitable anymore, and neither they need it, because as casino they are already making good money Wink
That's a wrong assumption, because just because gambling is profiting we can't conclude our CPU won't be used for mining. If there is a possibility, then from a large number of people running their website could get them an additional revenue. Anyhow gambling sites won't get into such business.
Maybe, your PC is becoming hot due to other issues which isn't mining, check your system for errors or apps running in background or maybe the websites require you to have high-level graphics because of their UI. It depends on a lots of things for what your are experiencing to happen!
In certain desktops when we run programs that aren't capable to be run with the specific configuration cause heating. So, heating can be of several reasons, and not because of running specific gambling sites.

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October 08, 2020, 06:14:28 AM
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After reading the topic that you created, my curiosity arose. I immediately tried to access the two gambling sites that you mentioned.
When I use the auto-bet feature on the gambling site, it doesn't make my PC a high temperature. I even tried in a different browser
and it didn't make my PC temperature high, which is surprising my PC specification is lower than yours. The problem is clearly not from
the two gambling sites, there is a possibility that your PC may have malware. Try checking your PC with the anti virus that you usually use.

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October 08, 2020, 09:25:58 AM
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I recently signed up and played in both gambling sites that you mentioned named Luckyfish.io and Wolf.bet, but I didn't find any unusual changes in my performance on my PC and any heat up in my CPU. But there are truly games that are being used in crypto mining just like a popular online game called "League of legends" that they found out there is a crypto mining software attached to the game client and caused a huge heat up on their PC.

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October 08, 2020, 08:20:15 PM
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I recently signed up and played in both gambling sites that you mentioned named Luckyfish.io and Wolf.bet, but I didn't find any unusual changes in my performance on my PC and any heat up in my CPU. But there are truly games that are being used in crypto mining just like a popular online game called "League of legends" that they found out there is a crypto mining software attached to the game client and caused a huge heat up on their PC.

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https://technology.inquirer.net/77418/p2fb-filipino-gamers-find-crypto-mining-program-in-league-of-legends-game-client
Well, because you are using a legit gambling site which there is no hidden software that perhaps to harm your PC. It is very common, --the reason why your PC's temperature is running hot because there really is a software install on your PC that is hidden and unnoticeable. You had to check your internet security and virus and run a scan to identify if there is a malware installed on your PC.
If you want, --you may also consider resetting and backing up your pc just to make sure the malware or virus will not gonna be damaging your PCs









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October 08, 2020, 08:32:33 PM
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I recently signed up and played in both gambling sites that you mentioned named Luckyfish.io and Wolf.bet, but I didn't find any unusual changes in my performance on my PC and any heat up in my CPU. But there are truly games that are being used in crypto mining just like a popular online game called "League of legends" that they found out there is a crypto mining software attached to the game client and caused a huge heat up on their PC.

Source:
https://technology.inquirer.net/77418/p2fb-filipino-gamers-find-crypto-mining-program-in-league-of-legends-game-client
Well, because you are using a legit gambling site which there is no hidden software that perhaps to harm your PC. It is very common, --the reason why your PC's temperature is running hot because there really is a software install on your PC that is hidden and unnoticeable. You had to check your internet security and virus and run a scan to identify if there is a malware installed on your PC.
If you want, --you may also consider resetting and backing up your pc just to make sure the malware or virus will not gonna be damaging your PCs
Trying to look around and we can say that majority of people arent experiencing the same problem on where op do had which basically means that he's the only one been experiencing
of high temperature on running the autobot feature where in our part it doesnt really have the same behavior where it means that he might likely have a malware into his system
where it do consume too much cpu process and make it hotter.Its just really unethical for website to have those hidden miner since they do know that it will heavily affect their
reputation if people will know just like been mentioned on earlier pages that they arent really that dumb on making a hideous move.

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October 08, 2020, 10:54:32 PM
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Always try another browser and see if the experience varies, I have no choice but to use a variety of browsers because not every site works that well with a particular browser for various reasons.   Definitely dont just use Chrome as that can soak up alot of resources in some way similar to what you describe and if nothing else try the site on a friends computer might be a good test to alter all variables.
   Wolf bet Ive used previously and just looked now and its not spiking anything obviously for me, they usually would get found out and imo the profit from cpu mining is quite unlikely to tempt any normal operation.   A torrent site or similar then yea its a factor to consider, use some kind of anti virus over sight is probably something to try also.

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October 08, 2020, 11:46:24 PM
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Always try another browser and see if the experience varies, I have no choice but to use a variety of browsers because not every site works that well with a particular browser for various reasons.   Definitely dont just use Chrome as that can soak up alot of resources in some way similar to what you describe and if nothing else try the site on a friends computer might be a good test to alter all variables.
   Wolf bet Ive used previously and just looked now and its not spiking anything obviously for me, they usually would get found out and imo the profit from cpu mining is quite unlikely to tempt any normal operation.   A torrent site or similar then yea its a factor to consider, use some kind of anti virus over sight is probably something to try also.
I agree, maybe suspicious software works in the background without noticing on the task manager. Probably, the system resources are used in high percentages by Chrome but considering the Wolf.bet mostly use the flash it is better to use Chromium-based browsers. Third-party flash software can suck up more than what Chrome requires from the average PC. Scanning the PC with the best antiviruses, antimalware software can give us the expected answer, IMO.

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October 09, 2020, 03:11:26 PM
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No one can use your PC for mining purposes because for mining you need to setup files and programs and there is no way they can do that remotely without even you knowing about it. The reason for heating might be because of the automated betting the system makes a lot of bets in a short amount of time and the website gets clogged up on your end because the PC is not able to handle the speed and the rapid bets being made.

I am saying this because I myself do a lot of automated betting on bitsler, primedice and a lot more casinos and I never felt like my laptop is heating up or even having any impact of betting at all. Maybe you need a better graphic card and clear cache while if it still happens try to get a new RAM maybe.

Also since I use windows I might not be 100% sure how ubuntu works.
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October 09, 2020, 05:01:11 PM
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Low end CPUs generally get high temperature quicker.

This is not correct, lower end CPUs have smaller clock speeds and more powerful CPUs have higher clock speeds and the higher the speed, the hotter the processor gets. It's basic thermodynamics.

CPUs have 3 or 4 built-in speed "levels" they switch between to adjust the clock rate, they don't run at arbitrary speeds in their range.

They also have a turbo mode that temporarily increases the clock speed to a higher limit until the processor gets very hot. This is what happens if you see 100% CPU usage.

Agreed with rest of the stuff but the bolded part above is still a concern. Low end CPUs still heats up quickly because the CPU usage gets high faster than high end CPUs.
Example : Playing a heavy game on a low end processor will heat up the machine faster than playing the same game on a high end processor.

I remember playing GTA vice city on my low end desktop many years back and the CPU used to get freaking hot quickly whereas even if we play GTA V on a high end CPU these days doesn't heat up the CPU that much.

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When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If you try to end one of them, the webpage will crash.


Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?
What browser are you using? If you are using Firefox, then go to Edit>Preferences>Privacy&Security and look for what kind of tracking protection you are getting, even the standard option will block cryptominers, however if you have it on custom you could have forgotten to select the option to block cryptominers, anyway most likely what you are experimenting is just websites that use too much your graphic card or your CPU, I do not like those websites since they are very inefficient but many people like shiny graphics so there is nothing to do about it.

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October 10, 2020, 02:28:41 AM
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When I start an autobet in different websites, I mentioned that the temperature of my PC is HIGH  Shocked
I checked the system monitor and I found this! (I am using Ubuntu)

If the proof is only screenshots that you mention I think it's still not enough to prove it, because there are many other reasons why your PC temperature increases, such as website performance which does require a lot of power consumption, but that doesn't mean your PC is used for mining.
or it could be that you are opening another application so that your PC needs extra performance.
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October 10, 2020, 02:44:11 AM
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If you are just using the website I think it does need to consume a lot of things like higher temperature.
Also if you want you can disable your PC again and make it clean first if you think the temperature is still the same check the process.

Also always check the cooling system of your unit at the same time it's place.

Another thing always checks the CPU fans to make sure this won't affect the whole progress somethings it doesn't work properly on its RPM. Judy my thoughts if you are just browsing a website you will not experience too many temps.

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October 10, 2020, 09:11:16 AM
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Quite curious as well but I don't think casinos are using a hidden mining feature whenever you tried to play auto betting. I'm using windows and everything was fine whenever I try doing an auto bet but since you are using ubuntu maybe there's something to do with it.
Yeah, I have made a lot of bets and played the automatic betting feature on wolf.bet and they are pretty good and they have a good reputation her on the forum too so there is really no reason for them to try and do such things and lose their reputation for a few bucks of mining Grin.

I am not sure about the other website and still I think they won't be mining on your computer because that is a pretty dumb idea to destroy any reputation they have and the thing is that they won't earn a lot by mining as we know it is not even possible to mine coins with computer now because of the difficulty levels right now.

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October 10, 2020, 09:39:12 AM
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I think it is because the graphics of their games are high and maybe it gives stress to your CPU or in some point maybe your computer specs are not that high that can support high-end games or processing power. I advise try to explore your computer maybe it needs a proper cooling system or airflow to aid your problem when it comes to the high temperature of your CPU and also maybe you're doing other activities in your pc aside from playing gambling then that will be the main reason I think.
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October 10, 2020, 09:48:00 AM
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I think it is because the graphics of their games are high and maybe it gives stress to your CPU or in some point maybe your computer specs are not that high that can support high-end games or processing power. I advise try to explore your computer maybe it needs a proper cooling system or airflow to aid your problem when it comes to the high temperature of your CPU and also maybe you're doing other activities in your pc aside from playing gambling then that will be the main reason I think.
You did not get the point mate,OP is asking if the Gambling site uses our CPU to mine while we are enrolled and playing in their site things that is not safe for all of us since this is illegally using our computer.
though i doubt that this can be real because how can they use our computers to Mine?without us letting them happen?
maybe there are virus or something in OP's computer that needs to be cleared.

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October 10, 2020, 10:45:20 AM
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After reading the topic that you created, my curiosity arose. I immediately tried to access the two gambling sites that you mentioned.
When I use the auto-bet feature on the gambling site, it doesn't make my PC a high temperature. I even tried in a different browser
and it didn't make my PC temperature high, which is surprising my PC specification is lower than yours. The problem is clearly not from
the two gambling sites, there is a possibility that your PC may have malware. Try checking your PC with the anti virus that you usually use.
Same what i did mate,after trying consecutive time in 3 browser my PC did not come to High temperature meaning that it wasn't the Site who's making your compute brings more heat,there are other issue in your PC i think.
like what other says try to check if you have Malware in that computer so the gambling site will be clear in your thoughts that having mining in that gadget .
I think it is because the graphics of their games are high and maybe it gives stress to your CPU or in some point maybe your computer specs are not that high that can support high-end games or processing power. I advise try to explore your computer maybe it needs a proper cooling system or airflow to aid your problem when it comes to the high temperature of your CPU and also maybe you're doing other activities in your pc aside from playing gambling then that will be the main reason I think.
He has a HIgh Specification of computer so i believe that high graphics wont give that big effects in That computer.









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October 13, 2020, 05:43:19 PM
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I think it is because the graphics of their games are high and maybe it gives stress to your CPU or in some point maybe your computer specs are not that high that can support high-end games or processing power. I advise try to explore your computer maybe it needs a proper cooling system or airflow to aid your problem when it comes to the high temperature of your CPU and also maybe you're doing other activities in your pc aside from playing gambling then that will be the main reason I think.
You did not get the point mate,OP is asking if the Gambling site uses our CPU to mine while we are enrolled and playing in their site things that is not safe for all of us since this is illegally using our computer.
though i doubt that this can be real because how can they use our computers to Mine?without us letting them happen?
maybe there are virus or something in OP's computer that needs to be cleared.

There have been cases on the past of some websites using cryptominers with scripts and getting a lot of coins this way, this is why for a long time browsers like Firefox have the option to block Cryptominers and any suspicious activity similar to that, however we cannot trust completely on this since it is unlikely they can block everything, however I doubt that any reputable casino will risk their business just to mine a few coins so I think something else is at play here.

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October 13, 2020, 07:14:17 PM
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Most electronic devices aren't made specifically for mining or gaming. It might seem so because of how hot your computer device might seem to be but, it's not so. So long as it's not a mining site your operating then is definitely not some form of affiliate mining in progress.
It's most likely that the sight uses high graphic contents and probably your systems RAM is relatively low, your available ROM is down to 30% and probably, you've got other apps running as well. Hence, your system seems worked up in coordinating all the activities you've got running especially that of the loading gaming site your accessing. You could run a maintenance check on your system and probably reduce the number of active apps you've got running when accessing high graphic contentsm sites.

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October 13, 2020, 08:22:28 PM
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I think it is because the graphics of their games are high and maybe it gives stress to your CPU or in some point maybe your computer specs are not that high that can support high-end games or processing power. I advise try to explore your computer maybe it needs a proper cooling system or airflow to aid your problem when it comes to the high temperature of your CPU and also maybe you're doing other activities in your pc aside from playing gambling then that will be the main reason I think.
You did not get the point mate,OP is asking if the Gambling site uses our CPU to mine while we are enrolled and playing in their site things that is not safe for all of us since this is illegally using our computer.
though i doubt that this can be real because how can they use our computers to Mine?without us letting them happen?
maybe there are virus or something in OP's computer that needs to be cleared.

There have been cases on the past of some websites using cryptominers with scripts and getting a lot of coins this way, this is why for a long time browsers like Firefox have the option to block Cryptominers and any suspicious activity similar to that, however we cannot trust completely on this since it is unlikely they can block everything, however I doubt that any reputable casino will risk their business just to mine a few coins so I think something else is at play here.
No dumb crypto-casino owner would do such step as if they do believe that people wont able to find it out or notice it and yes this had been pretty common back in the past where there are shady
processes in background on a certain app or site which do make that underground mining and if you are the one who arent really that too meticulous into things then most likely you wont
surely notice it but for people who do observe most of the time will really spot it out and for business then they wont really do it because they are really putting their business into mess
in that case and wolf.bet will not really be that too hideous and they wont really make it this far if they've been having that shady process in the background.

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October 13, 2020, 10:12:47 PM
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I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.

If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.
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October 14, 2020, 04:03:13 AM
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I never thought of that possibility. I'm going to run some tests here on my machine to make sure they don't mine while I'm playing on the betting site.  Very interesting question of yours.  Smiley



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October 14, 2020, 04:41:00 AM
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If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.

Making browser mining scripts is not something that is difficult to do, especially for professionals who really understand those things. When a site has a browser mining script then they can steal/hijack user computers and use their resources (processing power) to mine some crypto and this script runs in the background.

As you said, for gambling sites that are not well known it is possible to do this action, but for gambling sites that already have a name, of course they will think a lot before doing that.

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October 14, 2020, 04:49:40 AM
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If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.

Making browser mining scripts is not something that is difficult to do, especially for professionals who really understand those things. When a site has a browser mining script then they can steal/hijack user computers and use their resources (processing power) to mine some crypto and this script runs in the background.

As you said, for gambling sites that are not well known it is possible to do this action, but for gambling sites that already have a name, of course they will think a lot before doing that.

Not only thinking they will calculate the situation base on what they can earn, mining can only give small percentage of income compare to what they can earn from those solid players they haveplaying in them.

If it's not well known website they will not also do that for a reason that it will not attract new players to try thier gambling sites if in the first day they have a bad
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October 14, 2020, 04:52:45 AM
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here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]
I suppose with those specs, it should be some other process that's actually negatively affecting your system, or that the wolfbet autobet feature just takes up that big of a process, mainly due to the auto bet codes they have. That or a malware got in and is pretty much eating up you're CPU processes by hiding behind other online processes. Since you also used Ubuntu, which I said I have not much knowledge of, the numbers you're seeing right now might have been capped at a certain limit, hence why it's huge. The cap isn't necessarily the maximum amount your pc can handle, but rather the maximum amount your browser could use.

Anyway, one things for sure, it isn't them mining in your pc. Try doing a hard format, or just cleaning up tempfiles and the like. Scan your pc as well for possible malware, and if the issue persists, try bringing it into a professional and let them take a look at possible issues your pc may have.

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October 14, 2020, 05:33:17 AM
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here's my device's specs:
- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
- 16 GiB RAM
- GM108M [GeForce 920MX]
I suppose with those specs, it should be some other process that's actually negatively affecting your system, or that the wolfbet autobet feature just takes up that big of a process, mainly due to the auto bet codes they have. That or a malware got in and is pretty much eating up you're CPU processes by hiding behind other online processes. Since you also used Ubuntu, which I said I have not much knowledge of, the numbers you're seeing right now might have been capped at a certain limit, hence why it's huge. The cap isn't necessarily the maximum amount your pc can handle, but rather the maximum amount your browser could use.

Anyway, one things for sure, it isn't them mining in your pc. Try doing a hard format, or just cleaning up tempfiles and the like. Scan your pc as well for possible malware, and if the issue persists, try bringing it into a professional and let them take a look at possible issues your pc may have.
With that kind of pc specs then its already an overkill imho because autobet codes or something similar wont really eat that much of process.

This is why i do really doubt that he might have a malware into his own pc which is the main culprit of the problem.If you do try to look at

on most people here where they dont experience such issue.Scanning with your current antivirus might able to detect it out and should really be delete.

If unresolved then theres no other option but to reformat pc.

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October 14, 2020, 06:14:31 AM
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Not only thinking they will calculate the situation base on what they can earn, mining can only give small percentage of income compare to what they can earn from those solid players they haveplaying in them.

If it's not well known website they will not also do that for a reason that it will not attract new players to try thier gambling sites if in the first day they have a bad
plan to its users. and users will know that in long runn base on what they experience visiting the website .
If that casino is a reputable casino, I don't think they will do that because it could give them a bad reputation, and their casino will reduce the number of members. The casino doesn't want to risk their reputation because of the simple thing, and they really concern about it. So we hope that the casino is not mining with our computer. Maybe he needs to check everything on his computer, so he knows what is happens with the computer.

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October 14, 2020, 06:28:29 AM
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With that kind of pc specs then its already an overkill imho because autobet codes or something similar wont really eat that much of process.

This is why i do really doubt that he might have a malware into his own pc which is the main culprit of the problem.If you do try to look at

on most people here where they dont experience such issue.Scanning with your current antivirus might able to detect it out and should really be delete.

If unresolved then theres no other option but to reformat pc.

I don't have problems with auto betting on wolf.bet and other sites. I guess OP should try to reformat his pc and then to try auto, that will show to him that probably something else was eating his memory!
Antivirus helps for some things, but from time to time I have to run antimalware and I usually have +10 threats. My comp becomes so slow, whatever I do it takes time to load, only after running antimalware everything gets back to normal!
And just for the record, it would be crazy (like some conspiracy theory) that crypto casinos are using our computers for cpu mining!

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October 14, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
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I just heard that there is a gambling site that uses the user's computer for mining. But I'm sure the gambling sites mentioned
in the opening post don't do that. Because myself have proven it by starting auto-bet at both gambling sites, and my computer
temperature is normal. Maybe your computer is a have problem, try checking whether there is malware or not. To make it better,
please format and reinstall all your computer applications.

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October 14, 2020, 01:37:39 PM
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Technically, NO.

How about performing several tests. Use different browsers and make sure that only a single browser is running at the same time (application process).

Record logs and from there, you can actually conclude if there's something wrong.
Exactly and we can also monitor the use of various resources of the PC when making bets and see if there is any anomaly that exist because if the mining is being actually done then there is a high CPU usage and you can easily check that from the Task Manager (for windows you can press Alt+ Ctrl + Delete and the task manager will open)

I am quite confused why the PC will get slow by betting at all and never happened with me but then I am more a sports betting player and hardly play dice or other quick games so I am not entirely sure. But surely there is no mining happening because there would have been many users complaining about it if there was any such practices being performed by the casino.
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October 14, 2020, 01:53:41 PM
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If you download something from that site and cause the HIGh usage of the CPU, I'm not sure if it is about the compatibility of your PC but might be possible. I'm not thinking that they are using our CPU for mining but as I read this one https://www.cnet.com/how-to/find-out-if-websites-are-mining-bitcoin-cryptocurrency/. Probably they are taking such an advantage when we are visiting their site and not all of us are having an idea with this scheme.

Maybe this could help if you'll find out that they are actually using your PC for mining.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-stop-sites-from-using-your-cpu-to-mine-coins/



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October 14, 2020, 04:50:00 PM
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If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.

Making browser mining scripts is not something that is difficult to do, especially for professionals who really understand those things. When a site has a browser mining script then they can steal/hijack user computers and use their resources (processing power) to mine some crypto and this script runs in the background.

As you said, for gambling sites that are not well known it is possible to do this action, but for gambling sites that already have a name, of course they will think a lot before doing that.

You're exaggerating a little. Scripts that are installed on the site only work in the browser environment. As soon as you close the site where the scripts or browser are running, they will immediately stop working. This is done specifically to prevent viruses from being installed on your computer in this way.
In order for the virus to enter your computer, you need to download the executable file of the virus voluntarily or by deception.
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October 16, 2020, 05:20:03 PM
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I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.
They cannot mine technically either because they would require the gambler to install some script or software to mine right? And I have never seen a gambling site offering some downloads before a user starts their gambling. I still understand that some users might feel the lagging after a extended run on automated betting because of the resources used by the betting and as a result the computer might slow down.

I think gambling places require very high ram because some of them use FPS so that they require more resources whereas for mining I think it will never happen like that, this is the same as playing FPS games you leave it all day which is sure the cache will accumulate and will slow down the process or device performance.
Yeah, but FPS games is a different aspect and betting on dice simply is different as it does not need to use RAM as much and games require a lot of computer resources but a simple online surfing and making bets must not take as many resources as a FPS game.

I think it might also be web lag where the website gets freeze ad you sometime feel like the whole computer is lagging.

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October 16, 2020, 05:45:25 PM
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I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.
They cannot mine technically either because they would require the gambler to install some script or software to mine right? And I have never seen a gambling site offering some downloads before a user starts their gambling. I still understand that some users might feel the lagging after a extended run on automated betting because of the resources used by the betting and as a result the computer might slow down.

Some gambling websites ask to install the script-app for a faster gaming experience, for example, Stake.com In my first experience, the site asked to install the app for both mobile and desktop versions, and tried it on my  Android phone. TBH, it is better to use its app which is faster, smoother but never experienced any kind of delay or high CPU/GPU usage by the website itself. As suggested, cleaning the PC and checking the mentioned websites can clear the raised question.

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October 16, 2020, 06:12:14 PM
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Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

That's cheap trick if they are going to do this, they can make a lot of money if gamblers keeps on playing, but if the computer of their clients is lagging and they are stealing it's resources then they can lose a lot of money if clients decides not to use their platform, there's hardly money to be made from mining now, I have not played on both gambling sites but my reasoning is based on common sense.

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October 17, 2020, 05:30:12 PM
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Since you're using your browser to access their website, your PC should take a load from your browser.
I don't think a single webpage can access your whole PC to mine. No one can access your PC until you allowed them by downloading a virus or their product.
When you run something, you give full access to your pc to someone. I suggest you clean your PC and start a scan.
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October 17, 2020, 05:41:15 PM
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I never think of that, it's good thing some user observed this behavior in gambling website the two websites you have mentioned are those the casinos where you experience this kind of behavior in the CPU or there are others too? I played with wolfbet before using automated betting on their dice game but I haven't checked out or experience any changes in performance of my computer maybe my computer can handle it? What could be the reason the CPU is spiking?

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This is overthinking, because it isn't that easy and with ease such activities can be found out. This will ruin the reputation of that particular gambling site. These days we've got data sharing and data access of other computers. Maybe with that in mind OP might've thought of his cpu power being used by the site for mining.

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October 18, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
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I never thought of that possibility. I'm going to run some tests here on my machine to make sure they don't mine while I'm playing on the betting site.  Very interesting question of yours.  Smiley
There is not really any need to do something like that, most popular browsers are going to have the option to block cryptominers by default since this was a problem years ago if I remember correctly, however just to be sure check the configuration settings of your browser just to make sure that everything is in order, most browsers have that option activated by default but if you have played with the settings there is the possibility you deactivated that option by mistake and you need to activate it again.

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October 18, 2020, 10:06:44 PM
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This is overthinking, because it isn't that easy and with ease such activities can be found out. This will ruin the reputation of that particular gambling site. These days we've got data sharing and data access of other computers. Maybe with that in mind OP might've thought of his cpu power being used by the site for mining.
Possibly and it should really be checked rather than making up some slight accusations on to those mentioned websites which arent actually making those shady stuffs.

They cant really just risk into the reputation that they had built for too long on just a simple hiding miner into their site and as you said that most browsers now does have
that blocking feature when it comes to possible mining activities behind.

Most people had already confirmed that they arent experiencing the same thing and everything was normal when running up the autobet feature.Maybe its good to check
other applications were open so that he can spot out on where this process came from?

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Freebitco used to allow mining via the browser as an option, like the faucet they run it would give a small amount back for using the site.   They actually get asked regularly why they dont bother any more and its mostly because various site explorers or search engines like google or similar would mark the site negatively and notice the crypto active elements as a kind of malware.    Any site considering using mining either by consent or not would not want to be excluded from search engine results in most cases, thats a valuable path of new customers.   A torrent site which is already restricted by various laws on the other hand would not consider that a problem.

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October 19, 2020, 04:08:32 PM
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Websites that I tried for this experiment:
- Luckyfish.io
- Wolf.bet

Do you think that they are using our computers of CPU mining?

I don't think so I have never read a gambling casinos with miner on their web page, they will be tagged if they are going to do that, so far it's only you, better check all the applications that is or are running in your back door, it could not come from gambling site, because they will not make money CPU mining and they will be reported and gamblers will leave their gambling platform.

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