[ANN][CHA] Chancecoin, SuperNET core coin for betting in a decentralized casino

[provenceday]

interesting. i like your idea.

[magician]

Can send BTC with online wallet,like blockchain.info ?

To burn using a Blockchain.info wallet, do the following:

• Log in to your wallet.
• Click "Send Money."
• Choose "Custom" under "Transaction Type."
• Choose a single "From" address. This is the address to which CHA will be credited.
• Enter 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD for the "To" address.
• Enter the amount of BTC you want to burn.
• Use 0.0001 for the "Miner's Fee."
• Choose any "Change Address" as needed.
• Click "Review Payment" and then send the payment.

Thanks for your reply. Does it have 1 BTC limited to burn like Counterparty did?

There is no limit to the amount you can burn per address or per transaction.

[520Bit]

Lots of errors.

Code:

c:\chancecoin>gui.py
Config file: C:\Users\Users\AppData\Roaming\Chancecoin\chancecoin\chancecoin.conf; Exists: Yes
Config file: C:\Users\Users\AppData\Roaming\Chancecoin\chancecoin\chancecoin.conf; Exists: Yes
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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Python32\lib\site-packages\tornado\ioloop.py", line 830, in _run
    self.callback()
  File "C:\Python32\lib\site-packages\tornado\autoreload.py", line 165, in _reload_on_update
    for module in sys.modules.values():
RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration

[provenceday]

can i send btc from multibit wallet?

after i send btc, when and how i can get the chance coin?


thank you very much!

[magician]

can i send btc from multibit wallet?

after i send btc, when and how i can get the chance coin?


thank you very much!

You can indeed burn BTC into CHA using Multibit. BUT you must be careful that you are sending BTC from a single address (otherwise Chancecoin won't know which address to send CHA to). The best thing to do is send BTC to the burn address using a wallet that only has a single address. To check that you only have a single address, click on "Request" and verify that under "Your receiving addresses," you only have one address listed. If you have more than one, you should create a new wallet (File -> New Wallet), send some BTC to the new wallet, and then send BTC from the new wallet to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD. Hope that helps. Alternatively, you can always send BTC to a Blockchain.info wallet and follow the instructions I just posted for burning from Blockchain.info.

After you send BTC, you can see your Chancecoin using the Chancecoin wallet software. You can either install this from source, or run a pre-compiled binary. We currently have a pre-compiled binary available for OS X Mavericks, and we will have a Windows binary out soon. The wallet software has a function you can use to check the balance associated with your address.

[520Bit]

I would like to post the chancecoin wallet error here again, I want to use the server command, but how to solve the error first?
Error happened while running chancecoind.py server. Block 292092 could not pass, why?

Code:

c:\chancecoin>chancecoind.py server
Config file: C:\Users\xxxxxx\AppData\Roaming\Chancecoin\chancecoin\chancecoin.conf; Exists: Yes
Status: RESTART
Block: 292092
Bet: 1BckY64TE6VrjVcGMizYBE7gt22axnq6CM bet 0.001 CHA with chance 50.0 and payout 1.96 [valid]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\chancecoin\chancecoind.py", line 478, in <module>
    blocks.follow(db)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 572, in follow
    parse_block(db, block_index, block_time)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 71, in parse_block
    parse_tx(db, tx)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 50, in parse_tx
    bet.resolve(db)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\bet.py", line 129, in resolve
    block_time_ny = block_time.astimezone(ny_zone)
TypeError: astimezone() argument 1 must be datetime.tzinfo, not None

[JahPowerBit]

Having heard the community's concerns about block hashes being prone to manipulation, we have decided not to use block hashes to resolve bets. Rather, we will be using New York Lottery Quick Draw numbers to resolve bets.

New York Lottery Quick Draw

Quick Draw numbers are drawn every four minutes, every day of the week. The numbers are published online shortly after they are drawn. The drawing selects 20 numbers randomly from a pool of numbers 1 through 80, without replacement. In the newest version of the Chancecoin protocol, a bet seen in the blockchain will be resolved with the next available set of Quick Draw numbers. We use combinadics to convert these numbers to a random uniform variable, and use it to resolve the bet.

We have more updates coming this weekend.

If you can find a solution, it's much more elegant to use only the blockchain without external source.

If you use multiple blocks to generate a random number, it will already be more difficult to cheat.

For example :
- Use a block B1 to generate a number N1 between 1 and 100
- Use the block (B1-N1) to generate a number N2 between 1 and 100
- Use the block (B1-N1-N2) to generate a number N3 between 1 and 100
- ... repeat ...
- Use N100 as pseudo-random number.

This is just an example that requires more thought, but I think it is possible to make cheating difficult enough, for it is not profitable.

I like the idea of ​​having a random number generator in Counterparty. Potentially, this allows to play Poker, Blackjack, etc... And it would be a natural evolution of bets that already exist in Counterparty.
IMHO it is less cleaner to implement a new coin just for this functionality. The same question arises for the hundreds of LTC clones. Intuitively I think it is not good for LTC. But I think no one ever will know the real answer..

We considered a solution similar to this. The problem is that a devious gambler can always aggressively mine the last block that is to be used as a source of randomness to settle a particular bet, even if various other blocks are used in the randomness calculation. Hence we transitioned to the external source solution.

Yes you right! it seems that there is no solution not only using the blockchain since miners can potentially control precisely its content..

[bpack]

Hello, brother, I briefly translation on the contents of CHA, http://www.dianzibi.com.cn/portfolio-item/cha.
welcome to supplement. Chinese name called "菠菜币", spinach = gambling,`(*∩_∩*)

[magician]

As promised, we are eager to share more technical details about the Chancecoin protocol today. Please have a read.

http://chancecoin.com/technical

Also, I will try to keep the top of this thread up to date, but for the freshest content, please visit http://chancecoin.com/participate. Today I updated it with details about burning with Blockchain.info, how to bet, etc.

We're excited to see that people have started burning BTC into CHA. To us, this is validation of the work we have put into creating the Chancecoin protocol. According to my calculations, the burn period will end on approximately May 4, 2014.

[Venetian]

Hello, brother, I briefly translation on the contents of CHA, http://www.dianzibi.com.cn/portfolio-item/cha.
welcome to supplement. Chinese name called "菠菜币", spinach = gambling,`(*∩_∩*)

Hello to you too brother! Can you actually change the name to 运气币? It describes more accurately what we intend to do with Chancecoin. Nevertheless, thanks for the translation, and it's great to see interest in Chancecoin from overseas!

[shiyang1992]

can i send btc from multibit wallet?

after i send btc, when and how i can get the chance coin?


thank you very much!

You can indeed burn BTC into CHA using Multibit. BUT you must be careful that you are sending BTC from a single address (otherwise Chancecoin won't know which address to send CHA to). The best thing to do is send BTC to the burn address using a wallet that only has a single address. To check that you only have a single address, click on "Request" and verify that under "Your receiving addresses," you only have one address listed. If you have more than one, you should create a new wallet (File -> New Wallet), send some BTC to the new wallet, and then send BTC from the new wallet to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD. Hope that helps. Alternatively, you can always send BTC to a Blockchain.info wallet and follow the instructions I just posted for burning from Blockchain.info.

After you send BTC, you can see your Chancecoin using the Chancecoin wallet software. You can either install this from source, or run a pre-compiled binary. We currently have a pre-compiled binary available for OS X Mavericks, and we will have a Windows binary out soon. The wallet software has a function you can use to check the balance associated with your address.

I think you should give out the win wallet quickly.
I am so interested in the coin , when the win wallet come out , I will burn btc.

[yshuifejng]

do not need mining,only play dice,The most to win 1% of the total,Seems like a fun project

[overthetop2011]

Where to see how many CHA I have got after burning?  

[allwelder]

Can send BTC with online wallet,like blockchain.info ?

To burn using a Blockchain.info wallet, do the following:

• Log in to your wallet.
• Click "Send Money."
• Choose "Custom" under "Transaction Type."
• Choose a single "From" address. This is the address to which CHA will be credited.
• Enter 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD for the "To" address.
• Enter the amount of BTC you want to burn.
• Use 0.0001 for the "Miner's Fee."
• Choose any "Change Address" as needed.
• Click "Review Payment" and then send the payment.

Thanks.
Another question:
After burning with blockchain.info,the CHA will be sent to burning acc.
Then I can send CHA to anyone just with blockchain.info wallet or need to install lot of softwares and use cmd command to send them like XCP ?
TKS.

[520Bit]

Can send BTC with online wallet,like blockchain.info ?

To burn using a Blockchain.info wallet, do the following:

• Log in to your wallet.
• Click "Send Money."
• Choose "Custom" under "Transaction Type."
• Choose a single "From" address. This is the address to which CHA will be credited.
• Enter 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD for the "To" address.
• Enter the amount of BTC you want to burn.
• Use 0.0001 for the "Miner's Fee."
• Choose any "Change Address" as needed.
• Click "Review Payment" and then send the payment.

Thanks.
Another question:
After burning with blockchain.info,the CHA will be sent to burning acc.
Then I can send CHA to anyone just with blockchain.info wallet or need to install lot of softwares and use cmd command to send them like XCP ?
TKS.

I don't think you can see your CHA balances now, because the command client chancecoind is not good to use right now. I reported the error early yesterday, it seems that the dev team do not have time to fix it. They are busy writing documents IMO.

Code:

C:\chancecoin>chancecoind.py server
Config file: C:\Users\MiracleSamantha\AppData\Roaming\Chancecoin\chancecoin\chancecoin.conf; Exists: Yes
Status: RESTART
Block: 292092
Bet: 1BckY64TE6VrjVcGMizYBE7gt22axnq6CM bet 0.001 CHA with chance 50.0 and payout 1.96 [valid]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\chancecoin\chancecoind.py", line 478, in <module>
    blocks.follow(db)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 572, in follow
    parse_block(db, block_index, block_time)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 71, in parse_block
    parse_tx(db, tx)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\blocks.py", line 50, in parse_tx
    bet.resolve(db)
  File "C:\chancecoin\lib\bet.py", line 129, in resolve
    block_time_ny = block_time.astimezone(ny_zone)
TypeError: astimezone() argument 1 must be datetime.tzinfo, not None

[TequilaV]

 :-*how can i BUY this coin? well I have meet many new coins today, I don't know what to choose. and I  see there are many people ask how to buy this coin here, so I want it too.

[TwinWinNerD]

After Block 298340 there will no new CHA generated, right?

So how will this coin work, if there are only 5k or 10k in existence?

[provenceday]

:-*how can i BUY this coin? well I have meet many new coins today, I don't know what to choose. and I  see there are many people ask how to buy this coin here, so I want it too.

you do not need to buy this coin, just burn you btc to get somecoin.

[PhantomPhreak]

Having heard the community's concerns about block hashes being prone to manipulation, we have decided not to use block hashes to resolve bets. Rather, we will be using New York Lottery Quick Draw numbers to resolve bets.

New York Lottery Quick Draw

Quick Draw numbers are drawn every four minutes, every day of the week. The numbers are published online shortly after they are drawn. The drawing selects 20 numbers randomly from a pool of numbers 1 through 80, without replacement. In the newest version of the Chancecoin protocol, a bet seen in the blockchain will be resolved with the next available set of Quick Draw numbers. We use combinadics to convert these numbers to a random uniform variable, and use it to resolve the bet.

We have more updates coming this weekend.

If you can find a solution, it's much more elegant to use only the blockchain without external source.

If you use multiple blocks to generate a random number, it will already be more difficult to cheat.

For example :
- Use a block B1 to generate a number N1 between 1 and 100
- Use the block (B1-N1) to generate a number N2 between 1 and 100
- Use the block (B1-N1-N2) to generate a number N3 between 1 and 100
- ... repeat ...
- Use N100 as pseudo-random number.

This is just an example that requires more thought, but I think it is possible to make cheating difficult enough, for it is not profitable.

I like the idea of ​​having a random number generator in Counterparty. Potentially, this allows to play Poker, Blackjack, etc... And it would be a natural evolution of bets that already exist in Counterparty.
IMHO it is less cleaner to implement a new coin just for this functionality. The same question arises for the hundreds of LTC clones. Intuitively I think it is not good for LTC. But I think no one ever will know the real answer..

We considered a solution similar to this. The problem is that a devious gambler can always aggressively mine the last block that is to be used as a source of randomness to settle a particular bet, even if various other blocks are used in the randomness calculation. Hence we transitioned to the external source solution.

Yes you right! it seems that there is no solution not only using the blockchain since miners can potentially control precisely its content..

I think it may be possible to get around this, by having the values converge to a random value slowly over time.

How are you going to get the Quick Draw numbers in the protocol? Hard-code a URL into chancecoind?

[shadypepe]

very interesting concept, burned some coins, windows wallet would be nice though