LOL,
nice endorsement:
Trust summary for nulliusUntrusted feedbackThese ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate.
| Trade Runner | 2020-10-17 | Reference | Strongly recommended to avoid any contact with this toxic user! Extremely aggressive and untrustworthy member, protecting and siding with known troll and weapon dealer on Bitcointalk! Report and ignore! |
Though it’s not “ha ha” funny, because it is more abuse of the trust system—a serious matter. I also do suggest that if you really want to go all-out here, go ahead and report
all of my posts; but be advised, the moderators will not be amused.
Even more serious is evidence that I have found in this thread that you are stalking BAC, and you are violating forum rules. You could be banned for that.
Potentially dangerous wackos such as yourself are one of the principal reasons why I stay behind Tor: You wouldn’t even know where in the world to begin cyberstalking me, or in what jurisdiction to annoy the cops with false reports about my completely legal activities.
“TL;DR” (dear me, how I loathe that term):- Trade Runner is a liar, who is using cherry-picked misquotes and faulty legal analysis to grind his axe against the free civilian ownership of firearms.
- Trade Runner is trying to bait BayAreaCoins into publicly stating a legal position—whereas Trade Runner has purported that he reported BayAreaCoins to the U.S. Federal BATF’s tip line. In any area of law, including firearms law, it is usually wise to ignore such baiting.
BayAreaCoins, if the actual police were to ask you questions, then you would have the right to remain silent and the right to consult with an attorney. If some anonymous screen name tries to back you into a publicly stated legal position, while he basically boasts that he is acting as an net.vigilante with a political axe to grind, just tell him to go jump in a lake. Nobody will think less of you for refusing to be publicly interrogated by some random nutjob on the Internet, wannabe-badge #2312200.
If all applicable laws are duly applied, there is no difference between the sale of a gun (even a so-called “assault rifle”)
and the sale of a collectible coin. Weapons are not some icky, ritually unclean substance. Idiots who faint in self-righteous horror at the idea that
somebody may be selling guns need to get their heads checked.
But as I have already mentioned, there are several points to consider from a legal point of view. In particular, a crypto platform is not intended for weapons deals.
But as I have already mentioned, that is your personal opinion.
Your opinion is unimportant to anybody who is at least minimally intelligent, or even sane. Also, your opinion is
wrong—yes, opinions can be wrong.
What you are doing is an attempt to impose
financial censorship. Whereas Bitcoin by design avoids financial censorship!
What you really want is Paypal:PayPal Acceptable Use PolicyLast Update: March 19, 2020
Prohibited ActivitiesYou may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
[...]
2. relate to transactions involving (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c)
cigarettes, (d) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (e) stolen goods including digital and virtual goods, (f)
the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory or the financial exploitation of a crime, (g) items that are considered obscene, (h)
items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right
under the laws of any jurisdiction, (i) certain
sexually oriented materials or services, (j)
ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (k) certain weapons or
knives regulated under applicable law.
[...]
Activities Requiring ApprovalPayPal requires pre-approval to accept payments for certain services as detailed in the chart below.
| Service Requiring Pre-Approval | Contact Information |
| Airlines and scheduled or non-scheduled charters/jets/air taxi operators; collecting donations as a charity or non-profit organization; dealing in jewels, precious metals and stones; acting as a money transmitter or selling stored value cards; selling stocks, bonds, securities, options, futures (forex) or an investment interest in any entity or property; or providing escrow services. | Please send contact information, business website URL and a brief business summary to compliance@paypal.com |
| Providing file sharing services or access to newsgroups; or selling alcoholic beverages, non-cigarette tobacco products, e-cigarettes or prescription drugs/devices. | Please send contact information, business website URL and brief business summary to aup@paypal.com |
| Activities involving gambling, gaming and/or any other activity with an entry fee and a prize, including, but not limited to casino games, sports betting, horse or greyhound racing, fantasy sports, lottery tickets, other ventures that facilitate gambling, games of skill (whether or not legally defined as gambling) and sweepstakes, if the operator and customers are located exclusively in jurisdictions where such activities are permitted by law. | Please send contact information, business website URL and brief business summary to aup@paypal.com |
[...]
I have thereby highlighted just a few activities that are
legal in many jurisdictions, but are prohibited or restricted by Paypal.
The way this works:
Oh, no—actually, that is
not how Bitcoin works; and I don’t think I am going out on a limb here by positing that that would be unacceptable to both the forum community, and the forum’s administration.
For my part, if I find someone demanding that this forum impose Paypal-style restrictions on trades that are legal in the jurisdiction where the forum is located, then you may expect for me to come down on that like a ton of bricks.
(And oh, goddamnit, why does this mentally defective eunuch’s hoplophobia make me feel like defending Americans!? —Cheers on your First and Second Amendments, though you really need to enforce them better.)
He sold new assault rifles with a thousand rounds of ammunition and was undoubtedly in a position to facilitate international terrorism. Note in this context his “discount” of 10 % for all Muslims:
10% off for all our muslim friends in the USA
Even his additional alibi statement “
as you pink promise you won't use them to exterminate Christians someday” offers no certainty that he would not supply assault rifles to Islamists planning their next terror act.
Although I myself am none too fond of BAC’s liberal virtue-signalling, when you insinuate that he supports terrorism covered by an “alibi statement”,
you are flat-out lying. Moreover, it sounds like you are triggered by the mere mention of Muslims. According to your worldview, are
all Muslims terrorists?
Here is the context that you dishonestly omitted, which shows that
BayAreaCoins was suggesting that Muslims could use firearms to prevent terrorist acts:10% off for all our muslim friends in the USA (as long as you pink promise you won't use them to exterminate Christians someday). We don't play that New Zealand shit here regardless of what building you go to on whatever day of the week.
I strongly recommend the Kimber as a solid ass church gun. It's compact, fits a large hand and will fucking fuck something up.
No way that New Zealand trash could EVER happen in my area of the country in the USA.
More good guys need guns... step right up, it's easy to buy here.
The post immediately following that:
Bracketed text added by me; all else is quoted as in the original:Heres a link to the New Zealand shooting:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7o9w2a8tzle7s1d/%5BDOWNLOAD%20AND%20REUPLOAD%20ME%5D.mp4?dl=0 [dead link, as noted in subsequent post]"They" don't want you to see it because this could have been "easily" prevented with that 1911
[pistol, a gun that is popular in the U.S. for lawful concealed carry].
(Videos fucked up, but you should understand what someone does in a fucked up moment if you want to be the one to straighten them out.)
Freedom of speech please, thanks.Regardless of anyone’s political opinions, your allegation that BayAreaCoins was supporting or “facilitating” terrorism presents a
question of fact; and as to fact, it is a
false and defamatory accusation.
Some more significant points from the above quote:
He sold new assault rifles with a thousand rounds of ammunition and was undoubtedly in a position to facilitate international terrorism.
- “Assault rifle” is a political propaganda term, not a firearms term. It makes your agenda bloody obvious.
- A thousand rounds of ammunition is not that much. It only sounds like a lot to somebody who has obviously never interacted with a real-life gun. Practice at a shooting range can use up a thousand rounds quite quickly.
- The part about “international terrorism” is a smear in the manner of the Four Horsemen of the Cryptocalypse.
The phrase “from FFL to FFL” most likely means “from authorized weapon dealer to authorized weapon dealer”.
You ignorant doofus! That is exactly what it means, not “most likely”. As I quoted above, one of BayAreaCoins’ weapons sale ads even linked to the Wikipedia page explaining what a Federal Firearms License is. Do you need for somebody to draw you a map?
Boldface is in the original:FFLs are licensed by the United States Federal government. They are strictly regulated, and they (usually? always?) dox all parties to all transactions involving firearms. Transfers through FFLs are NOT anonymous; and the FFLs’ records are available for inspection to the Federal police agency that polices firearms, the BATF. By sending all transfers of firearms through FFLs, BayAreaCoins is clearly following American laws.
N.b. that in many circumstances, in most places within the United States, direct private transfers of guns between individuals with no licences are
legal; and there is nothing wrong with that. I am just mentioning it—but it’s irrelevant; that is not what BAC is doing here.
Anyway, since the weapon deals here are running in a legally completely unregulated way, the next point is that the regularly offered deals here are running in a commercial style, as I said before, especially since the seller did not just “occasionally” sell an used 7.65 PPK. For these commercial activities he needs a FFL himself, which he doesn't have:
I do not have and am not required to have an FFL.
For all your efforts, you dredged up 5 sale threads within 4 years.
I am not a firearms law attorney in BayAreaCoins’ jurisdiction, and I cannot provide BayAreaCoins with legal guidance; but from a forum perspective, that really sounds like “just ‘occasionally’” to me—nowhere even remotely near professional or commercial firearms sales. Although I don’t know BAC, my impression from these forum threads is that he looks like a firearms enthusiast who occasionally buys, sells, and trades from and for his personal collection. That is neither illegal nor unusual in the United States.
(As aforesaid, this sounds like
baiting BayAreaCoins to express publicly a legal position involving questions that he should discuss only with his attorney.)
Even if both parties agree to speak publicly from “FFL to FFL”, this cannot be controlled in any way, especially since the reported user BayAreaCoins himself says that this is only “strongly preferred”, but not essential:
FFL to FFL is strongly preferred.
Again, it sounds like you are trying to bait BayAreaCoins to express publicly a legal position.
IIUC, FFL-to-FFL transfers are only legally
required for transfers of firearms between residents of different U.S. states—look up “Federalism”—or intrastate, in certain states that have laws requiring that in some circumstances. Direct transfers of firearms
between residents of the same state are legal in most circumstances (but not always/everywhere, depending on state law).
It sounds like somebody from (or purporting to be from) the same state was requesting what, on its face, would be a perfectly legal transfer. BayAreaCoins replied that he “strongly preferred” to transfer through an FFL. If anything, it shows that he is quite scrupulous about the legality of firearms transfers: He “strongly prefers” transfers via FFL, even if it not technically required by law.
(Some American gun owners have told me that they exclusively transfer via FFL, just to avoid these kinds of false accusations...)
A gun sales portal, with which this crypto forum was compared here, would most likely ensure that the members would get fully verified if it were a reputable portal. Here at Bitcointalk, all members are anonymous.
It sounds like what you really want is this:
To prevent scams, spam, alt accounts, and similar abuse, and to promote an environment of trust, all forum users must now submit know-your-customer (KYC) identity info to the forum
here. As we all know, Bitcoin was built on the principle of "if you have nothing to hide, what's there to fear?", which is why the block chain is a public ledger. And Satoshi even famously said, "sacrificing a little liberty for increased security is the foundation of blockchain technology."
Oops:
April fools!
Eh...
So, you want my dox? “...from my cold, dead fingers.”
I do note, however, that as aforesaid,
FFL-to-FFL transfers of firearms are doxed by the FFLs. BayAreaCoins is NOT advertising the anonymous sale of firearms.
And since this whole mob of toxic users has not been taught the necessary legal knowledge, not to mention respect and decency, I will now teach each of them these missing skills!
I'll be back!
Dare not you to speak of “respect and decency”, you who have neither.
You are an ignoramus with a chip on your shoulder—a mammothrept throwing a tantrum, nothing more; and your use of the word “mob” is ironic, whereas you are a
stereotypical product of
ocholocracy, which
I despise.
You’ll fuck off. That’s what you’ll do.
Edit: Fixed one substantive typographical error.
Edit again: Added a paragraph more explicitly focusing on the question of fact, to depoliticize the discussion of Muslims.
