French teacher beheded for anti-sharia teachings

[BADecker]

A teacher has been brought to justice for encouraging iritdad in a madrasa near Paris. It gives a clear message to the enemy of religion that if they want to live in the people's islamic republic of Europe, they need to follow the sharia law. There's no room for terrorist in the religion of peace and silence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTux6OtFn0

https://apnews.com/article/france-teacher-decapitated-eragny-f1ecd575344d171ff8fc8c33c5320f0c

Good thing they beheaded him peacefully. We wouldn't want to give the wrong impression about the religion of peace, right?

[squatz1]

This whole story is REALLY horrible. Anti-Sharia teaching wasn't even something as horrible as like -- the teacher saying that Islam is a horrible religion or anything along those lines -- the teacher was teaching a lesson about freedom of expression in regards to civics. In that lesson, he showed his students cartoons from Charlie Hebdo which show cartoons of Muhammad which are blasphemous in the Islamic culture / religion.

Guy was trying to teach a lesson on civics and freedom of expression. He was killed for it. That's TRULY horrible. It's just tough to think of an answer forward for this.

[bryant.coleman]

Muslims aren't the victims in China? Forced sterilization in concentration camps make you a victim, unless you're saying that they deserve to be there.

Islam has plenty of issues and their ideals are not aligned at all with western values. That doesn't justify grouping them and putting them through torture. You can find drone footage of Chinese soldiers lining them up and hauling them away in trains, practically identical to Nazi Germany. Go to the extremes of any religion and you'll find plenty of apologists. I think Islam ranks #1 in that regard because extremism is seen too often and you'll find people that take extremism very lightly (or at worst, justifiable).

Again, absolutely NONE of this justifies concentration camps and China should absolutely be condemned for doing so. Those people are the victims.

The topic here is the beheading of the teacher in Paris and not the sterilization campaign in China. I was just saying that I see a lot of pro-Uighur campaigns in the social media. I was pointing out to the fact that very few of the Islamist organizations have come out against the beheading, although they were very vocal about the Uighur issue. 

I don't have much interest on what is happening in China. There may be some isolated incidents that are overhyped, but I am not interested. The last time I checked, the proportion of Uighurs have increased in Xinjiang with every census.

[yazher]

The religion of peace strikes again.
At least they say the suspect was shot so no more beheading for him. There are virging goats awaiting him in the afterlife.

Islam is the religion of peace and it preaches peace in the world. However incidents like these are condemn by the Islamic teachings and those who are involved in these activities are not muslims or are the one's giving bad names to the muslims.

People who are involved in such acts are Muslims but have less knowledge of their religion. The one who made that cartoon should be punished from the start because they will trigger such people to do something such as this incident. because their knowledge of Islam is not yet full. therefore, they really need to be aware of this kind of scenario from ignorant Muslims. However, if those cartoonists just leave every religious thing and focus to make cartoons for the kids, this kind of incident wouldn't have happened.

[Salauddin1994]

The importance of education in islam is immense childhood and adolescence are the foundation of education children can easily master everything due to clear intellect healthy intellect simple thinking and clear attention for good reason their teaching methods are also exceptional. While teaching secularism in class the cleric presented a cartoon of hazrat mohammad an anti-religious act in front of the students these are forbidden in all religions and no one will dare to do so.

[mu_enrico]

People who are involved in such acts are Muslims but have less knowledge of their religion.

How come? Is the book says so?

The one who made that cartoon should be punished from the start because they will trigger such people to do something such as this incident.

So the cartoonist should be punished for criticizing or mocking religion?

I've been saying that religion is not the source of human morality for decades, so if you guys want your kids to be good, you should teach them about morality first, then religion. So they will think twice if morality says one thing, and the book says another thing.

[yazher]

The importance of education in islam is immense childhood and adolescence are the foundation of education children can easily master everything due to clear intellect healthy intellect simple thinking and clear attention for good reason their teaching methods are also exceptional. While teaching secularism in class the cleric presented a cartoon of hazrat mohammad an anti-religious act in front of the students these are forbidden in all religions and no one will dare to do so.

As you can see, no Muslims have ever mock Jesus ever, in fact, we cannot become Muslim if we don't love Jesus the Prophet of God. This is also the teachings of the Quran where you cannot mock Jesus because he is one of the Prophet of God. but those cartoonist has done something evil to the sight of those people and made this result to themselves.

This has been done before when Terry Jones had declared to burn the Quran on a specific date and made the people in Libya to attack the US embassy and sadly killed the US ambassador. the result of which the Pastor did.

[Spendulus]

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This has been done before when Terry Jones had declared to burn the Quran on a specific date and made the people in Libya to attack the US embassy and sadly killed the US ambassador. the result of which the Pastor did.

Except that really wasn't what happened there, was it?

Initial analysis by the CIA, repeated by top government officials, indicated that the attack spontaneously arose from a protest. Subsequent investigations showed that the attack was premeditated—although rioters and looters not originally part of the group may have joined in after the attacks began.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

[G.Seed]

So I am french...
.....
You have to know that terrorist "islamic" groups are paid by occidental countries, including of course "Israël" at a good place.
Terrorist "islamist" group kill about 90% of muslims, 10% of christians, an never attack "Israël", because they are paid and healed by this entity......

It'd be significant if, say the Iranian mullahs came out publicly against these silly, stupid, extremist actions such as the beheadings.

If you want Iran to react because a silly man killed a teacher in France, you re silly stupid and extremist.
Iran never attacked any country this last century.
Talk about your shitty "united states of america" that drinks children blood.
They do really mean wars, they kill children, they rape women, Iran does not.

This whole story is REALLY horrible. Anti-Sharia teaching wasn't even something as horrible as like -- the teacher saying that Islam is a horrible religion or anything along those lines -- the teacher was teaching a lesson about freedom of expression in regards to civics.

No.
The teacher was not talking about freedom of speech. Because there is absolutely not freedom of speech in France
If the teacher was really talking about freedom of speech in France, he would be put in jail as people who are really talking about freedom of speech.
For example Hervé Ryssen is in jail in France for his ideas.
All the journalist against Islam in France are not in jail, they are paid a lot of money.

[Spendulus]

So I am french...
.....
You have to know that terrorist "islamic" groups are paid by occidental countries, including of course "Israël" at a good place.
Terrorist "islamist" group kill about 90% of muslims, 10% of christians, an never attack "Israël", because they are paid and healed by this entity......

It'd be significant if, say the Iranian mullahs came out publicly against these silly, stupid, extremist actions such as the beheadings.

If you want Iran to react because a silly man killed a teacher in France, you re silly stupid and extremist.

Didn't think they would.

But if Iran doesn't, they leave it open for the Saudis to say the things that should be said. Fine with me either way.

[Spendulus]

The religion of peace strikes again.
At least they say the suspect was shot so no more beheading for him. There are virging goats awaiting him in the afterlife.

Islam is the religion of peace and it preaches peace in the world. However incidents like these are condemn by the Islamic teachings and those who are involved in these activities are not muslims or are the one's giving bad names to the muslims.

People who are involved in such acts are Muslims but have less knowledge of their religion. The one who made that cartoon should be punished from the start because they will trigger such people to do something such as this incident. because their knowledge of Islam is not yet full. therefore, they really need to be aware of this kind of scenario from ignorant Muslims. However, if those cartoonists just leave every religious thing and focus to make cartoons for the kids, this kind of incident wouldn't have happened.

This is the same kind of twisted thinking that creates atrocities like honor killings.

[bryant.coleman]

As you can see, no Muslims have ever mock Jesus ever, in fact, we cannot become Muslim if we don't love Jesus the Prophet of God. This is also the teachings of the Quran where you cannot mock Jesus because he is one of the Prophet of God. but those cartoonist has done something evil to the sight of those people and made this result to themselves.

No need to elaborate this much. Just answer a simple question. Do you believe that if someone draws a picture of your god, he needs to be killed? Or do you believe that if someone kills that person, the death is justified?

I have seen critics doing much worse to other religions. In India, one Muslim painter draw one of the holiest Hindu goddesses completely naked. In return, he was awarded civilian awards by Muslim nations such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia. So what you want to say is that, it is OK for Muslims to abuse other religions, but it is not right for someone to draw a cartoon which relates to your religion.

[guigui371]

I have seen critics doing much worse to other religions. In India, one Muslim painter draw one of the holiest Hindu goddesses completely naked. In return, he was awarded civilian awards by Muslim nations such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia. So what you want to say is that, it is OK for Muslims to abuse other religions, but it is not right for someone to draw a cartoon which relates to your religion.

Are you talking about painter MF Husain ?
https://qz.com/india/505331/why-mf-husain-painted-hindu-figures-but-not-muslim-ones-in-the-nude/

He has an arabic name but he is Indian

Husain was familiar with Hindu mythology from his childhood, having been born in the pilgrimage town of Pandharpur and watched Ram Leela performances frequently while growing up in Indore

Before the 1990s, nobody suggested he was insulting the faith. Quite the contrary, he seemed the embodiment of India’s syncretic culture. His art, always celebratory in contrast with the despair, violence, and gloominess of much modernism, has always seemed to me to be imbued with the festive spirit of Hinduism. And yet, in his 81st year, Husain was targeted by right-wing Hindu groups for supposedly insulting their faith, a charge that was to hound him till the end of his life, leading ultimately to his leaving the country he cherished.

[cabron]

The teachings still can't justify beheading, they can just make fun of the teacher like the Jalal Prank and just give him a warning about it than killing him by heading though. 

However there is no law about people making fun of Muhamad, is there?
Most people are not aware of the culture and beliefs of other religions which is why this is always going to keep happening. I don't know why think no one will even make fun of their God actually.

[Spendulus]

The teachings still can't justify beheading, they can just make fun of the teacher like the Jalal Prank and just give him a warning about it than killing him by heading though. 

However there is no law about people making fun of Muhamad, is there?
Most people are not aware of the culture and beliefs of other religions which is why this is always going to keep happening. I don't know why think no one will even make fun of their God actually.

But Mohammed is not the God.

The idea here is that making fun of the "messenger" is a bad thing.

Is there a law prohibiting making fun of Mohammed? I suppose so, in Islamic theocracies.

[bryant.coleman]

The teachings still can't justify beheading, they can just make fun of the teacher like the Jalal Prank and just give him a warning about it than killing him by heading though. 

However there is no law about people making fun of Muhamad, is there?
Most people are not aware of the culture and beliefs of other religions which is why this is always going to keep happening. I don't know why think no one will even make fun of their God actually.

If they feel so offended, then why do they migrate in such huge numbers to secular countries such as France? They should remain in their own countries, where saying anything against Islam is punishable by death. What do they want to do next? Demolish the Notre Dame de Paris or the Reims Cathedral, just like what they did to the Buddha statues in Bamiyan (Afghanistan)?

[Gyfts]

Muslims aren't the victims in China? Forced sterilization in concentration camps make you a victim, unless you're saying that they deserve to be there.

Islam has plenty of issues and their ideals are not aligned at all with western values. That doesn't justify grouping them and putting them through torture. You can find drone footage of Chinese soldiers lining them up and hauling them away in trains, practically identical to Nazi Germany. Go to the extremes of any religion and you'll find plenty of apologists. I think Islam ranks #1 in that regard because extremism is seen too often and you'll find people that take extremism very lightly (or at worst, justifiable).

Again, absolutely NONE of this justifies concentration camps and China should absolutely be condemned for doing so. Those people are the victims.

The topic here is the beheading of the teacher in Paris and not the sterilization campaign in China. I was just saying that I see a lot of pro-Uighur campaigns in the social media. I was pointing out to the fact that very few of the Islamist organizations have come out against the beheading, although they were very vocal about the Uighur issue. 

I don't have much interest on what is happening in China. There may be some isolated incidents that are overhyped, but I am not interested. The last time I checked, the proportion of Uighurs have increased in Xinjiang with every census.

But you mentioned victimization and cited that Muslims talk about China and Uighurs Muslims? Yes, Islamists will play victim often times to justify extremism. But what's going on in China makes them victims so it's not a good example.

The muslim community in France was pretty pissed off at Macron for targeting mosques that French intel communities had deemed to have been harboring terrorist activity. This would be a good example of playing victim. Some muslims are quick to condemn terrorist activity, and too many aren't. You go to online communities of Muslims and they seem more upset about the perception this creates oppose to strongly condemning and rejecting radicalism. They don't offer condolences to the victim either.

[tvbcof]

If they feel so offended, then why do they migrate in such huge numbers to secular countries such as France? They should remain in their own countries, where saying anything against Islam is punishable by death.

Why stay in your own shithole country when someone is giving you a free ticket to a place where someone else (like Macron and his ilk) will give you welfare for life.  It's a no-brainer.

What do they want to do next? Demolish the Notre Dame de Paris or the Reims Cathedral, just like what they did to the Buddha statues in Bamiyan (Afghanistan)?

Looks like someone else beat them to it:

https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/rabbi-says-notre-dame-burned-because-the-talmud-was-burned/245256

From what I can tell, Muslims don't have much reason to hate Christians very much and in fact to not.  Jesus was not a problem for them and he is fairly well respected.  On the other hand Jesus Christ totally fucked up the sweet little deal that the Talmudics (then known as keepers of the 'oral Torah' aka the Pharisees) had going where they screwed people over on exchange rates for special sacrificial sheep and so on.  Jesus's prediction about their second temple ('not one stone standing upon another') was dead on, and they blame him for it.  Scratch the surface of this stuff a little and you find that the Orthodox Jews hate Christianity like there is no tomorrow!

As for the 'radicals' who are defacing every other religion's figures, it looks to me as though there is a particular guiding hand to their activities.  I say that in part by having studied the 'radicals' who are active in Syria in particular over the years.

[Mauser]

Islamic fundamentalist are still a big problem in Europe. So far the European governments can't really deal with them or stop the radicalisation. In my opinion social media is the problem here. Terrorist can easily reach people all around the world and distribute propaganda. Just thus morning I read an article that Facebook can't control its website. Pictures of the dead teacher with his head cut off are circulating on Facebook and many users write positive comments towards the terrorist. Such behaviour needs to be banned and people who violate it should be held accountable. Otherwise the risk of young extremists trying to do something similar will just increase.

[akram143]

Muslim is terrorism that is what the stereotype we got when we hear the word Islam or muslim. But at the end of the day everyone is human and got the same blood then how people differenciate with the things which are actually made to make the people live together.