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[nullius]

Nullius's neg on OgNasty in which he calls him a scammer is fine, and he should have just stopped there.

Fuck you Pharmacist.  I've never scammed a satoshi from anyone and everyone here knows that.  Unlike you, I actually contribute to Bitcoin, whereas you are completely worthless to this community except to spread negativity and support trolling.  Why don't you follow TMAN and Lauda out the door and bring nullius and Vod with you, maybe owlcatz and suchmooon could even tag along?  This community would be so much better off...

That's a great idea for you OGMcNasty.... get rid of the people who call out your NastySCAM Ponzi scheme!!!!  You're such a tool and you don't even know why which makes it humorous.  

....and for the love of god, please stop beating your chest on how much you do for bitcoin, just makes you sound like more of a goober than you already are.  

Indeed, this forum would be better off without idiots calling legitimate provable operations a Ponzi scheme out of jealousy.  I guess you're mad that you're so worthless I didn't even mention you as one of them?  LOL

LOL, owlcatz got to you, didn’t he:

Just gonna say, I agree with Nullius quite often. I trust his judgement more than many others here, that is for sure.

Maybe you just weren't cool enough to be a real cypherpunk in your lifetime, IDK... People sure seems super jelly of this guy or something.

Wow, that’s real “OG” talk about crypto.  Though I should mention, Mr Nasty’s thin skin wouldn’t last even three seconds in the completely unrestricted free-fire zone free speech of cypherpunks.

(For my part, I will admit that the abysmal signal-to-noise ratio caused by the trolls eventually drove me to the lne.com sublist...  Cheers, owly!)

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[OgNasty]

LOL, owlcatz got to you, didn’t he:

Like he says - if you don't like someone's trust or judgement, use the ~. I'm done here, have a great weekend everyone, even you Lord McNasty Dogg!

Thanks owlcatz (assuming I'm Lord McNasty Dogg which has a nice ring to it), you have a great weekend too!  Nice to see you agreeing with common sense and pointing out that nullius did the wrong thing with his trust abuse when he should have used the ~ instead.

[LoyceV]

Check my feedback history; I have issued a number of troll tags, going back to February of 2018, plus other tags that you may find disagreeable.  If you do not want to see my tags, that is what exclusions are for.

I'd never looked at your trust page before, just did, and the forum's stance on how the trust system should be used has changed a lot since 2018.  If you don't believe me, just ask Theymos.

See theymos' intent on trust Ratings, Flags and lists:

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

Why would I care about DT?

I can think of a reason: DT can be used for good and evil! I like to (think I) use it for good, and ever since OgNasty put me on DT (before the current system with voting for DT1), I started leaving more negative tags on scammers (to warn people).

It’s an Internet forum.  Not a kingdom.  My life does not revolve around it; I could leave tomorrow, not look back, and be better off for it.  Some perspective is in order.

People take things they read online way too seriously

Fuck you Pharmacist.

And you as well.  But just FYI, I was commenting more on the nature of the negative nullius left rather than whether it's accurate or not.  Negging members for scamming is proper; giving negs to trolls is not.

For what it's worth: this is how I interpreted The Pharmacists posts too.

you've got thin skin.

This is a part I really don't get: why would you care what anyone says about you online, especially if you don't value their judgement? If it's someone you trust and who's opinion you value, it might be worth considering what they said. Other than that:

If someone on the internet is mean to you: boo fucking hoo! Use the Ignore button, and forget about them.

About tagging trolls: this should be handled by the forum rules, not through the feedback system:

3. No trolling.

If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

[nullius]

Like he says - if you don't like someone's trust or judgement, use the ~. I'm done here, have a great weekend everyone, even you Lord McNasty Dogg!

Thanks owlcatz (assuming I'm Lord McNasty Dogg which has a nice ring to it), you have a great weekend too!  Nice to see you agreeing with common sense and pointing out that nullius did the wrong thing with his trust abuse when he should have used the ~ instead.

Besides the obvious point that your trolling, your scamming, your trust abuse, etc., etc. are reasons for complete distrust of you, not only distrust of your trust judgments, I must remind the newcomers here:

• I have had ~OgNasty in my trust list, and publicly said so, since February of 2018.^*
• You excluded me in a fit of paranoia when I was at Junior “Member” rank (!), and democratic DT wasn’t even a thing!  (Edited for accuracy:  Then recently ranked up from “Jr.”)
  
  Edit:  Money quote:
  

  Just to be clear to anyone confused, nullius was never on Default Trust. You can be excluded without ever being on the system (case in point, me).
  

  
  And me... OG so buthurt over people calling him out for running a massive scam that he takes preemptive strikes against people. Anyone who looks like a threat he blocks from DT so he doesn't get a tag himself.
  
  Watch out..
  

So...  LOLWUT?

About tagging trolls: this should be handled by the forum rules, not through the feedback system:

3. No trolling.

A very significant word is thereby highlighted.


* I accidentally deleted another good post in a locked thread by reaching for the nonexistent quote button.

* nullius slaps himself with a large trout.

I can’t find any archives.  Reconstructed from an open browser tab, in pertinent part:

Fix your trust list to one that isn't played due to greed and whatnot. Here you go:

[long list]

My own trust list became much more reliable with just two simple entries:

gmaxwell
~OgNasty

Being new here, I’ve as yet had only limited time to evaluate whom I’d trust to the degree of bringing into my level 0.  I am ultra-conservative about trust, as a matter of principle; and level 0 requires not only great honesty, but also great wisdom.

[...]

[GazetaBitcoin]

Nulli buddie...
Are you trying to make enemies out of everyone?

Not quite. Not just that I never had any beef with nullius (that shouldn't even be stated; I did it for outlining the obvious), but the contrary: I always had very intelligent discussion with nullius, on various fields - from history to ancient poets to ancient languages. I consider that we always had constructive, intelligent discussion, each learning from the other, in a respectful manner. Curiously, we never argued. And I say curiously because even similar minds think differently at some points. Oh well, curiously, it didn't happen. We learned from each other in the debated subjects (maybe I learned more from him than he learned from me), but the point is that we always talked politely to each other and it was constructive as we both learned new things in life.

I consider myself as a cultured person, which read thousands of books in his life, in various domains; yet, nullius proved himself an even more educated (cultured) person and this is not something I say on a daily decade basis. He is smart, very smart, and he knows cryptography more than 50% of this forum combined. But I have already stated that, haven't I?

* nullius slaps himself with a large trout.

Isn't that a mIRC expression? It made me laugh  remembering the old, good, mIRC times

[nullius]

I consider that we always had constructive, intelligent discussion, each learning from the other, in a respectful manner.

I think that it is cultural.  Although you seem to be quite broad-minded (and perhaps much moreso than I am), you have an appreciation for the finer things of this world...

- from history to ancient poets to ancient languages.

...and moreover, you enjoy intelligent discussion.  Your oeuvre primarily revolves around extended posts on contemporary history and current events:  Cypherpunks, Assange, etc.

Some people want to be the highest and the best.  Others race to the bottom.  However else people may be divided up, I think that those two categories are irreconcilable; whereas those in the first category may find a natural basis for mutual respect—well, sooner or later.  From my own experience, I observe that some people with whom I had little forum fights a few years ago are now on mutually amicable terms with me.

Curiously, we never argued. And I say curiously because even similar minds think differently at some points. Oh well, curiously, it didn't happen. We learned from each other in the debated subjects (maybe I learned more from him than he learned from me), but the point is that we always talked politely to each other and it was constructive as we both learned new things in life.

Curiously, that conceptually approximates what I myself recently said about Lauda!

She and I had our disagreements.  We had some rousing debates in private.  For one thing, she was what I considered to be softhearted (LOL). [...]

And she once told me that if I agreed with her about everything, it would be boring.

Whoever she is, she is a rare mind.

* nullius slaps himself with a large trout.

Isn't that a mIRC expression? It made me laugh  remembering the old, good, mIRC times

Although to my knowledge, the trout slap was made net.famous by the most popular MS Windows IRC client, the meme about slapping people in the face with a fish seems to antedate the Internet.

When this thread first started, YouTube didn’t exist!

(I have not verified the statements on that thread; DYOR.)

[Last of the V8s]

Proust, no? Search for 'wet fish'.

[nullius]

Proust, no? Search for 'wet fish'.

It’s impressive that you obviously knew that without consulting the link. ;-)

seems to antedate the Internet

Like why the fuck am I even in this goddamn thread? 

Truly, why!?  The only reason why I am still here is that some interesting people showed up. ;-)

[Last of the V8s]

Can't trust these Wykehamists you see. We fell about when the new trans. came out, took the expression up.

[eddie13]

Nulli buddie...
Are you trying to make enemies out of everyone?

Not quite. ... I never had any beef with nullius

I didn't realize you were in context of that.. I suppose "everyone" was too broad..
I was more referencing royse, nutildah, SM, and others, who were in recent context..

[nullius]

Nulli buddie...
Are you trying to make enemies out of everyone?

I was more referencing royse, nutildah, SM, and others, who were in recent context..

Just to be clear for the record:

• Off the top of my head, I don’t recall ever having had a problem with Royse before he hereby chose to lecture me on his trust system opinions on behalf of someone whom I had reasonably intended to tag in 2018.  —An important point here, which I think Royse missed while he was too busy hurling false accusations about my motives:  I was then still too new, finding my feet; and I had other reasons for avoiding it, when I was already deeply involved in an old-DT firestorm.  But OgNasty getting a Nullian tag was only a matter of time.  The writing was on the wall.  Mr Nasty must have known it; there is no other plausible explanation for his pre-emptive exclusion of me under old-DT (!).
  
  (There.  I just succinctly condensed a very long post that I did not finish earlier on this topic.)
• nutildah is, among other things, an apologist for Communists and a rationalizer of drug abuse.^*  (I do still intend to reply to that last, but briefly; I’ve been increasingly otherwise preoccupied, and not even trying to watch WO since about mid-Monday, much less post there.)  If such types did not feel enmity toward me, it would mean that I was doing something wrong.
  
  * I must emphasize another point here; for despite my repeated statements of my position (n.b. 2017 post), this red herring was thrown at me by WO’s local druggie crowd with their hallucinatory illogic:  Of course, I support and defend people’s right to harm themselves!  Including by poisoning themselves with drugs.  I just don’t fall for the false dichotomy that either you must support the tyranny of the War on Drugs, or you must pretend that drugs are a mostly harmless, and even beneficial recreation.  Say what?  Freedom includes the freedom to commit suicide.
• suchmoon has been passively-aggressively trying to spite me ever since, curiously enough, she simultaneously started defending yahoo from me, and jumped in bed with TECSHARE (!) as a transparent excuse to exclude me immediately.
  
  Against the backdrop of my previously amicable rapport with her, the timing and suddenness of her about-face toward me make her motives quite clear.  She sent me a PM about TECSHARE, announced her forthcoming exclusion of me less than 10 minutes later (before I even saw the PM!), and then less than two hours later started publicly defending yahoo in a matter that I had been otherwise discussing with her.  Thus, the danger to yahoo was effectively neutralized:  I was suddenly kicked out of DT, and I doubt that any other DT would have dared to tag yahoo without another DT doing it first.
  
  Beyond a brief note in my final post on the locked yahoo thread (which only you noticed, eddie—though you didn’t understand it), I didn’t pursue it further, at the time, because (0) I have no evidence that yahoo had anything to do with suchmoon’s dirty trick, so I didn’t and don’t want to stir drama over yahoo after he ended the Yobit campaign, and (1) I wanted to avoid more potential blowback to Lauda, who from several directions was unfairly attacked out of animosity toward me.
  
  suchmoon’s subsequent vindictiveness toward me adequately demonstrates how she behaves toward someone whom she finds she cannot push around.  I avoided engaging against her too much because, again, I didn’t want Lauda getting unjustifiably dragged into another mess.  Now, that is no longer a reason for me to restrain myself.
• Others?  What, you mean that some people on the Internet may not like me?  LOL.

Whereas this drama is beginning to bore me...  Enough’s enough.

Why am I even here?  As I said before in another thread—Kitty gone; what’s the point?

[Vod]

Why am I even here?  As I said before in another thread—Kitty gone; what’s the point?

You still see a bit of potential in the group?   

[AB de Royse777]

nullius, you make unnecessary longer posts.

Off the top of my head, I don’t recall ever having had a problem with Royse before he hereby chose to lecture me on his trust system opinions on behalf of someone whom I had reasonably intended to tag in 2018.  —An important point here, which I think Royse missed while he was too busy hurling false accusations about my motives:  I was then still too new, finding my feet; and I had other reasons for avoiding it, when I was already deeply involved in an old-DT firestorm.  But OgNasty getting a Nullian tag was only a matter of time.  The writing was on the wall.  Mr Nasty must have known it; there is no other plausible explanation for his pre-emptive exclusion of me under old-DT (!).

tl;dr

I don’t recall ever having had a problem with Royse before he hereby chose to lecture me on his trust system opinions on behalf of someone whom I had reasonably intended to tag in 2018.

Lecture!
You left feedback (negative tag) by saying "Troll" and I talked against it which is correct of course seems lecture to you? And in your theory, to point a wrong doing as wrong will be pointed only if anyone has a problem against the other one?

An important point here, which I think Royse missed while he was too busy hurling false accusations about my motives:

You still do not realize that it's false? It's not the good use of tagging others.

I was then still too new, finding my feet;

You are still finding your own feet. But the way you are going with all these politics around here, I see you are going to make only mess. You have serious mental illness. I see you have a life with your keyboard, mouse, monitor and a mind full of negative energy. There is a world outside your room go and explore it. Meet up with real people, have drink, go to party, go and see your family, find someone to love, have sex, spend time with children, help people who have nothing. Life is beautiful. Make it count instead of making mess and hatred around in this forum.

[nullius]

Why am I even here?  As I said before in another thread—Kitty gone; what’s the point?

You still see a bit of potential in the group?    

Nope.  Here and elsewhere, if I don’t reply further, you should assume that I am no longer watching the thread.

It’s a shame, for there are people here whom I respect; but I will not waste my life in an environment rife with illiterates who complain about reading, whose conceits rise from being too stupid to know how even to recognize their betters, let alone how properly to address them.

[nutildah]

Holy verbosity Batman.

nutildah is, among other things

TBH I missed that post entirely and didn't even see it until today. But as usual you are out of your monkey mind if you think I am reading all that pompous, self-fellating nonsense just to be insulted, especially since you are mainly responding to a joke that I made.

I did, however, run a word count on that post and am flattered that you would write literally over a thousand words in order to respond to me. It must be love.  

Nope.  Here and elsewhere, if I don’t reply further, you should assume that I am no longer watching the thread.

It’s a shame, for there are people here whom I respect; but I will not waste my life in an environment rife with illiterates who complain about reading, whose conceits rise from being too stupid to know how even to recognize their betters, let alone how properly to address them.

Well, in that case, don't let us mere mortals try to stop you.

[suchmoon]

Shame on you all for not recognizing and not addressing nullius properly. Look what you've done - he's now gone to P&S. It was so nice there for the last couple of months.

[hacker1001101001]

Whereas this drama is beginning to bore me...  Enough’s enough.

Why am I even here?  As I said before in another thread—Kitty gone; what’s the point?

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