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October 31, 2020, 10:41:01 AM
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If the concern is to get token without being cheated from BM or project team it self then it is good for consideration as important part, but if the concern is the token value then hunters should do they own research.
When agree to join the bounty then if the token prices dumping hard, hunters can't complain about this situation.
Join bounty isn't same situation as we work with companies in real life we will get what has been agreed upon, different with bounty even the team and BM said the value of token will increase then it can be wrong.
It's not about token value, it's about actually getting paid after bounty ends, I don't kinda understand what's going on with new project team, they always don't want to pay up after bounty ends, even projects that raised insane amount of money through IEO don't want to pay, what is going on? This gotta stop somehow
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October 31, 2020, 11:18:55 AM
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If the concern is to get token without being cheated from BM or project team it self then it is good for consideration as important part, but if the concern is the token value then hunters should do they own research.
When agree to join the bounty then if the token prices dumping hard, hunters can't complain about this situation.
Join bounty isn't same situation as we work with companies in real life we will get what has been agreed upon, different with bounty even the team and BM said the value of token will increase then it can be wrong.
It's not about token value, it's about actually getting paid after bounty ends, I don't kinda understand what's going on with new project team, they always don't want to pay up after bounty ends, even projects that raised insane amount of money through IEO don't want to pay, what is going on? This gotta stop somehow

If this is the case, the best option is to create a thread in the "Scam Accusations" section here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

A detailed description of the situation and behavior of the developers will allow investors to form an opinion on the project and may effectively stopt its further development. Let's not allow scammers to get away with such behavior without consequences. In the future, others will think twice if they will have idea to cheat bounty hunters.

But of course escrow is also a very good option and I fully support it.


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October 31, 2020, 11:25:05 AM
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Escrow is good but not necessary because not all new projects will be able to accept escrow fore different reasons, some bounties token hasn't launched yet until their IEO or ICO comes around, escrow is only hundred percent possible if the project is few months old
It is needed now to guarantee that the payment will be really given to the participants, there are already too many bounties that are not paying and just give the participants lose hope once their done in using their bounty hunters service. Some bounty manager requires escrow now due too this.

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October 31, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
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Escrow is very good, it gives more confidence to promote a bounty project but few projects that paid high rewards this year are not even Escrowed, they are managed by very good bounty managers like bubbalex, I think all we need is good bounty managers like him, the only project I promoted that was escrowed is ARCS from bounty detective and this project is already trading on exchanges before the campaign.
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October 31, 2020, 01:31:35 PM
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What I feared the most about bounties are the rules, they can be tampered with at any time and the rules always says they can adjust anything, we have no power over this people, they make the rules and we follow, that's if we ever want to get paid, the only thing that can save us are bounty managers

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October 31, 2020, 01:37:04 PM
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It is really important to secure the reward of each bounty hunters we know that bounty scam isn't new in bounty.
There are some who wouldn't pay after the bounty I think it is time for the manager and the community to ask for real payment even if it is at least just a small portion of their bounty allocation at least the bounty hunters would still receive money instead of just some worthless tokens.
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October 31, 2020, 01:49:20 PM
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Almost all projects are cheating and refusing to give tokens at the end of bounty management. It's really sad that hunters work hard but they don't get tokens as a rule..

When the bounty is over, the team is making new plans so that they can easily escape by cheating.

I would like to say to all professional managers that Escrowed is very important and all of you should follow it.

Just in my opinion
Otherwise
1. Hunter will decrease
2. Team cheating step will increase


indeed, escrowed funds reward for bounty hunters is the best solutions for now
so, before the campaign started the rewards funds already held in escrow, and when the campaign ended bounty hunters will get their rewards on schedule

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October 31, 2020, 02:10:31 PM
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Almost all projects are cheating and refusing to give tokens at the end of bounty management. It's really sad that hunters work hard but they don't get tokens as a rule..

When the bounty is over, the team is making new plans so that they can easily escape by cheating.

Its is true some project is trying to make new rules after the campaign ended. Dego can be a good example of that. To prevent this type of cheating BM needs to escrow. But it will be hard for those projects to run campaigns who promote their project before even creating their token. So how they can escrow? I think they can pay in other cryptocurrency.

I would like to say to all professional managers that Escrowed is very important and all of you should follow it.

Just in my opinion
Otherwise
1. Hunter will decrease
2. Team cheating step will increase


I think hunters will not decrease but it's increasing day by day. Peoples trying to make a living through it because many of them lost their job because of COVID-19.
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October 31, 2020, 02:23:22 PM
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This issue has been disscussed many times but yeah there is no manager especially for bounty campaign who follow it. I don't even know the problem why because the result will be same, I mean I don't see any harm that will feel by developer of the project or the bounty manager itself.

Even, this step will take bounty campaign to a good way to promote a project. Indeed, if they still use this way there will be a bounty hunter who will promote the project but we can guarantee in the future, look with signature campaign which paid in btc, the project didn't use an escrow will easily abandoned by the forum's user and it will be same with bounty program. Or maybe we can ask to admin on this forum to make a rule for this issue.
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October 31, 2020, 02:24:02 PM
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for the present time Escrowed is very important because to instill confidence in doing the job,

and to increase bounty hunters because if there is an automatic Escrowed the funds will definitely be given to the hunters with certainty.

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October 31, 2020, 03:31:42 PM
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Almost all projects are cheating and refusing to give tokens at the end of bounty management. It's really sad that hunters work hard but they don't get tokens as a rule..

When the bounty is over, the team is making new plans so that they can easily escape by cheating.

I would like to say to all professional managers that Escrowed is very important and all of you should follow it.

Just in my opinion
Otherwise
1. Hunter will decrease
2. Team cheating step will increase

I lost count of these project that failed to give us my fellow bounty hunters our rewards, 90% of them changed their rules and they are still doing it until now, nothing have changed, bounty hunting now is more of a gambling, you are lucky to get your coin and hit a jackpot if the token get into the market and got a good price and liquidity, we cannot consider bounty hunting as a way to make money anymore, you cannot consider a $5 worth of work for 3 months a decent way to make money online, but bounty hunters keep on working because until now they are still believing gold in the form of token.


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October 31, 2020, 04:01:42 PM
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Base on my experience in bounty, having an escrowed as the holder of the rewards will likely attract more participants but we don't just end up there. Yeah, we are able to receive the rewards as they have promise but wondering it makes you wait for a month, a year, or years to get listed.

I preferred to choose a bounty program that has already been listed to an exchanger even we can't assure you about the reward. Because we know that we can easily make trade our token once receive unlike to what I've mentioned above, that it won't make sense at all.

These things we need to consider before participating in bounty,
-Campaign manager
-Listing to exchanges
-legitimacy of the project

 

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October 31, 2020, 04:09:59 PM
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I'm sorry I have to say this, they always says the truth is bitter, I really want to support you guys on this but due to my past bounty experience escrowed bounties never paid me any reasonable rewards, I earned the best rewards from bounties that aren't Escrowed.
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October 31, 2020, 04:11:28 PM
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for the present time Escrowed is very important because to instill confidence in doing the job,

and to increase bounty hunters because if there is an automatic Escrowed the funds will definitely be given to the hunters with certainty.
Escrow must not be our top priority here, escrow projects still fails, even if escrow gives you confidence this won't stop the project from turning into scam, you could even end up with worthless Escrowed tokens like what happened with kingcasino months ago
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October 31, 2020, 04:16:01 PM
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The very best thing isn't really to escrow but to paid weekly/monthly to the hunters with the tokens they worked for, it may be few or not that huge of amount but if the hunters feel they are compensated I think that will create more good ambiance on bounty space. This has been in talk already but still can't find a solution I guess the managers doesn't want to revolutionize it or most are just incompetent they don't hear these hunters what they plead.
That's the best way to create a conducive atmosphere in bounty hunters with the rewards that are shared per week is a good solution because they will also be happy to see rules like this, don't just be lured with tokens, estimated at USD hundreds of thousands of dollars it's just nonsense and in the end it becomes a lower value.

And on average now a new bounty is launched, while the pre-sale has not yet been done and are forced to wait for them to succeed what if they fail? still the hunter will lose.

Anyway, avoid new projects because it makes it difficult for us to receive a good reward.

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October 31, 2020, 04:55:35 PM
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You are right! I saw most of the projects tried to cheat or impose hard rules to claim bounty token after the success of the project. Tokenpay never paid the bounty hunter, Tokoin is giving 6-8% in every months since 2019. Karate coin and many others didn't pay the bounty hunter. So i also think escrow is very important for bounty. But, As far as i know, many Bitcointalk bounty manager started using escrow.

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October 31, 2020, 05:56:08 PM
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No escrow isn't important to me since almost all the bounties I joined aren't Escrowed and i was able to earn good rewards from them so I am satisfied anyways, escrow seem nice though but I don't think all new team members of new projects will accept escrow
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October 31, 2020, 06:10:48 PM
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for the present time Escrowed is very important because to instill confidence in doing the job,

and to increase bounty hunters because if there is an automatic Escrowed the funds will definitely be given to the hunters with certainty.
Escrow must not be our top priority here, escrow projects still fails, even if escrow gives you confidence this won't stop the project from turning into scam, you could even end up with worthless Escrowed tokens like what happened with kingcasino months ago
In fact, in this forum there must be Eswcrow because if there is no method like this then many transactions will harm many people, as an example is the bounty campaign available in this forum, when the allocation provided by the developer is not given to the bounty manager it will make the participants were disappointed, but when they implemented escrow, the payment for the campaign participants was guaranteed.

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Does sound like an impasse already that there will be no negotiations anymore between parties. This is supposed to be a mutual relationship between the team and the bounty hunters who tirelessly promote their project which contributes to the success of the team. If there is nothing that will guarantee the bounty hunters to get paid, why should they be participating?

Escrow doesn't even guarantee at all because in any time the team can change the contract address of the token.

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i've been seeing threads lately about this escrow thing in bounty campaigns. i've heard that many of the bounty campaigns are not paying off the participants no surprise since most of them are ended as scam although it is not required still having escrow is good option so there will be an assurance for the bounty hunters that their hard works and efforts will be rewarded.

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