Merit Source - Plagiarist

[fxpc]

I have not had time to analyse his post history.  Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles?  If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs.

Yes, it is.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224353.0

Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations.

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Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times.

Thanks for the insight from a Russian local regular.  I have a question that perhaps may be best answered from your perspective.

I detect from your signature (and your previous signature!) that you have a certain... dislike for sigspam.  I myself have always refused a paid signature; but I am more moderate toward this issue.  I think that some good people get paid for their time and effort on the forum; and because they are good contributors, they only accept signatures from campaigns with the best reputations for zero spam.

Now, in the thread to which you linked (and johhny linked before here), I noticed something that made me uncomfortable.  Vadi2323 (Legendary, registration date in 2014) has a parody signature hostile to Chipmixer.  As a privacy advocate, I have oftentimes defended Chipmixer’s reputation.  I even ran my own little custom Chipmixer ad for nine months, with zero payment — not in the official campaign! — only to show solidarity with Chipmixer, and to protest against this type of hostility.

I wonder, why the hostility toward Chipmixer?

Is the Google Translate spam from Ratimov bringing ill repute to his sponsor inside the Russian forum, where perhaps the campaign manager may not be able to follow all activity?

My thanks for any further insight that may be provided by you, or by other Russian forum regulars who despise spam.

(Note:  This text has been tested and modified, to make it a little bit easier for Russian users to read with Google Translate.  Thus, it is not quite my usual writing style.)

You are welcome.

Any pay-per-post signature campaign generates sigspam because even good people obey the psychological principles of loss avoidance. I don't see any other troubles with the fact that good people are getting paid for signature.

It's hard to deny that the bulk of Chipmixer's users use it as a laundry. This isn't a reason for me to organize a crusade against Chipmixer. By the way, Chipmixer sponsors another type of sigspam in Russian local - taikuri13. Most posts of this user are similar to the output of a neural network for generating texts. Posts contain all the keywords of the topic but anyone who tries to understand them risks getting a brain fracture. Technically it doesn't violate forum rules, practically the quality of his posts is close to garbage. It seems that Ratimov's sponsor doesn't care about reputation. Perhaps this is the reason for hostility toward Chipmixer.

Thanks for simplifying the text.

P.S., fxpc, perhaps I would copy your signature — if my signature were not bought and paid for by my PGP key fingerprint!

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[wooI_Ioow]

 Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles?  

Yes, he is.

With such brave investigative work, soon you will be a Hero Member with >3000 earned merits, DT1 status, and merit source privileges hated by certain parties.  Keep it up!

I'll do. Next inspection is about to come.

Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption in Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55836376#msg55836376 " , de facto I have reported  three cases.

[mdayonliner]

Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption of Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55836376#msg55836376 "

I like the reporting idea than this you had in mind few days ago.

With the 2nd one you would not help the community but with these reports you certainly is going to have a huge contribution, favour to the community. Maybe all these breaking Rule#27 were unnoticed by the Russian users and mods. Weird to think though.

If you have free time and much care for the community, I will encourage you to focus on reporting.

Thanks mate.

[wooI_Ioow]

 Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles?  

Yes, he is.

With such brave investigative work, soon you will be a Hero Member with >3000 earned merits, DT1 status, and merit source privileges hated by certain parties.  Keep it up!

I'll do. Next inspection is about to come.

Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption in Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55836376#msg55836376 " , de facto I have reported  three cases.

Sent them today the second notifications. The fist reports   were ignored.  Do Russian mods support the break of rule 27? If they do I perhaps will spam there doing Google translate. 

than this you had in mind few days ago.

de facto, that was intended to be regarded to as to vitriol.

[mdayonliner]

Sent them today the second notifications. The fist reports   were ignored.  Do Russian mods support the break of rule 27? If they do I perhaps will spam there doing Google translate.  

I can help you in this maybe it will work as a support on the reports you make.

When you report, can you make a list of the posts and PM me end of the day, everyday? I will also report those posts and since I have more than 300 reports I can easily share the report status.

If I was an expert in the Russian language then I would do it by my own.

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Let me represent this a better way so that the mods can easily get his trick.

This is for the mods.
Post in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283655.0

	https://archive.vn/RzghC#selection-494.1-503.51 Google translation	|	https://blog.trezor.io/why-you-should-not-use-paypal-for-bitcoin-f6e2d436ca96 Original
	Large image: https://i.imgur.com/xGkHsr4.png	|	Large image: https://i.imgur.com/uKEyxfk.png
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I have two more from wooI_Ioow, I will investigate and format them before I report the following two.

2)   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210081.0
   Investigation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55833894#msg55833894
3)   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287342.0
  Investigation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55836376#msg55836376

Edit:
Reported with the following comment

used automated translator, investigation : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg55861477#msg55861477

Reported post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283655.0

[wooI_Ioow]

@mdayonliner, thanks for your involvement.

In Russian section Ratimov does reverse. He uses Google tool  to translate English article into Russian, makes slight alterations and then copy-paste   that translation.

The comparison of  two texts, one given by Google and the  other published by Ratimov gives expected result. Both are almost identical. Ratimov is so lazy that he doesn't bother changing the wording or twisting the words.  Mods have to be blind if they don't see that.

I used this tool https://text-compare.com/ to compare his and Google  Translate passages.

[airfinex]

Quoting for historical reference.

I'll respond here because my name was mentioned. First: this isn't the first topic about Ratimov, and I think I've said everything there is to say about it already. I think Ratimov can/should improve on his references, but ultimately it's not up to me. If the forum doesn't ban him for it, he seems to have found a loophole to easily make long posts that many people appreciate.
That being said, after several topics calling him out for plagiarism his large Merit earnings have dropped significantly:

Merit received by Ratimov (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until December 18, 2020 (source)

I also don't think Ratimov deserves negative feedback for this, as it doesn't mean he can't be trusted for trading.

I do think he's setting a bad example though, and I think plagiarism rules could be improved. So if anything, you may want to focus your energy on adjusting the rules in a separate topic (in Meta). You could use Ratimov as an example for your arguments, but don't make it about him.

Does DarkStar know he is paying for plagiarism

See:

Merit sent by DarkStar_ (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until December 18, 2020 (source)
  1978. Tue Dec  8 20:49:15 2020: 5 (7201) to airfinex (Trust list) (history) for Merit Source - Plagiarist

I also don't like some of Ratimov's Sent feedback. It's retaliatory and goes against what I consider correct use of the Trust system. I get that several people created an alt account to call him out on this, and this is actually encouraged by theymos:

If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

I always consider Trust inclusions and exclusions a bit of a "gliding scale": I usually don't (dis)agree with all ratings, but if the number gets too high, I might change my Trust list. I think I'm not alone in this, and Ratimov's DT-strength is already starting to decline a bit.

[eddie13]

Guy was even nominated “newbie of the year”..

3000+ merits for using Google translate eh?
What a great method of distributing DT voting power..

Bunch of DT + trust too for “catching alts and scambusting”
Not a single actual trade...
DT1...
Not even a 2 year old account..

What a fucking joke this system is..

[fxpc]

Guy was even nominated “newbie of the year”..

3000+ merits for using Google translate eh?
What a great method of distributing DT voting power..

Bunch of DT + trust too for “catching alts and scambusting”
Not a single actual trade...
DT1...
Not even a 2 year old account..

What a fucking joke this system is..

This guy also brags about how much BTC he earns from his corrupt schemes. Scambusting? These "investigators" are incapable of investigating anything. I challenged them to investigate. In response, deathly silence. Gang revels so much in its impunity that lovesmayfamilis, who previously received a 1-year signature ban for plagiarism (already expired), comes here to mock community and protect her (or his) accomplice. Theymos became blind or decided to allow plagiarism? Can any native speaker ask him? I think Chipmixer and other signature campaigns should not sponsor people who destroy the forum or should leave. What do you think?

Proof:
https://archive.vn/SiXp2

Гypoн, ты cчитaть нe нayчилcя, чтo 3 гoдa нaзaд, чтo ceйчac. Hy кaкoй из тeбя тpeйдep? Tы жaднaя зaвиcтливaя cyчкa, кoтopaя пocтoяннo нopoвит cчитaть чyжиe дeньги. Xoтя тpeйдepa дoлжны вoлнoвaть тoлькo eгo дoxoды. Teбя тaк этo пapит, чтo ты пocтoяннo нopoвишь пpикинyть, cкoлькo я нa пoдпиcи зapaбaтывaю. Cчитaть мoи дeньги....cyчкa, этa вaкaнcия yжe зaнятa.

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Зa пocлeдниe 4,5 мecяцa фopyм мнe пepeвeл 0.55 биткa. Этo ты cтoлькo нa кoмиccияx тpaтишь? Бaлaбoл ты нecчacтный, зaвиcтливый и oбидчивый.
~

Translation:

Huron, you haven't learned to count, that 3 years ago, that now. What kind of trader are you? You are a greedy envious bitch who constantly strives to count other people's money. Although the trader should only care about his income. You are so worried that you constantly strive to estimate how much I earn from signatures. Count my money .... bitch, this vacancy is already taken.

~

Over the past 4.5 months, the forum has transferred 0.55 BTC to me. Is that how much you spend on commissions? You are an unfortunate liar, envious and resentful.
~

Clownery:

Quoting for historical reference.

Did not have time to happen the first day of spring, so already a seasonal exacerbation of mental illness? Repetition of "painful" experiences? Perhaps so far it is only in the early stages to urgently see a doctor, and not rape the forum?

[airfinex]

Are you saying that lovesmayfamilis is now exposing what he was banned for earlier? Link please

[fxpc]

Are you saying that lovesmayfamilis is now exposing what he was banned for earlier? Link please

Hypocritical, isn't it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.msg51061094#msg51061094

[Obito]

My take on this situation is to not put a bias stance and for the mods to investigate the case that can read Russian because I believe that justice or equality in investigation should be granted whether they are high rank users or not. If there were sources cited then I think that there shouldn't be a problem but I believe that we should approach it like a research paper, if it was copied word for word then it is plagiarism and if it was a verbatim or a paraphrase of the source then it is acceptable.

[ScumBuster]

Ratimov is DT1 and merit source.
Ratimov adds witcher_sense to trust list, leaves positive rating.
Ratimov adds lovesmayfamilis to trust list, leaves positive rating.
These users used to report plagiarism. Now they defend it for selfish reasons.

lovesmayfamilis defends his abusing friend.

Still waiting for links to knowledgeable posts Ratimov has made which aren't copy paste. Why does no one reply?

STILL WAITING. Maybe lovesmayfamilis can show that Ratimov it not useless pile of shit plagiarizer.

Also look my thread about Ratimov and trust abusing
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303363.0

[airfinex]

ScumBuster, Please refrain from posting in my topic.

You create FUD, and against the background of your messages people can perceive my arguments with disdain.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

So here we have the Russian moderator essentially vouching for Ratimov, saying he did in fact cite his sources--or at least that's what it looks like to me. 

I'd be interested to hear from others on this.  I don't know if it's a witch hunt or not.

I did not say that there are no sources, they are for "formality", at the very bottom.

I'd already posted in this thread (see above) and was just contacted by OP via PM regarding this post, which he feels is abusive:

Did not have time to happen the first day of spring, so already a seasonal exacerbation of mental illness? Repetition of "painful" experiences? Perhaps so far it is only in the early stages to urgently see a doctor, and not rape the forum?

And I'd say it's a little harsh, borderline trolling.  On the other hand, this is bitcointalk and I've written posts that were much worse than that myself (though not lately).  You've got to have a thick skin on this forum, especially when you create threads like this one. 

I quoted your response to my post above because it shows that Ratimov did in fact cite his sources and therefore he didn't plagiarize anything.  The mods obviously felt the same way, and I think it's time to move on from this.  I think you meant well, OP; you just happened to be wrong on this one.

[fxpc]

Ratimov did in fact cite his sources and therefore he didn't plagiarize anything.

Anyway, merit source made unnecessary Google translations to pump himself and his gang with merits and then participate in Chipmixer's signature campaign. This is corruption.

[eddie13]

I don’t think he is going to be banned either, but I think it’s pretty sketchy..
"In this article I would like to touch upon"
Claims to not be able to read English well enough to proofread the “I” out of his text spin? Yeah sure..

Technically the source was there, but is quite deceptive..

And it shows well how screwed up our current DT/Merit system is, as briefly outlined in my last post in this thread..
Dude doesn’t even comprehend the word “I”, but his judgement is very well trusted to discern situations enough to put him into a forum leadership position?

[fxpc]

Leadership judgement and reaction:
https://archive.vn/Y73Ld

Пpи этoм Maкcимкa дeлaeт вид чтo eгo кoppyпциoнныx cxeм нe cyщecтвyeт и тpacт aбyзит пo этoмy пoвoдy.
Ocтaвил мнe нeгaтивный oтзыв:

Liar and troll. Distributes false information that I allegedly earn money on the forum in corruption schemes.

Tpoллинг видимo в тoм, чтo я eгo пocты пpoцитиpoвaл. Paтимoв, ты yвepeн чтo y тeбя xвaтит кpacки нa вcex пoльзoвaтeлeй имeющиx яйцa или ты тoлькo мeня бoишьcя?

Translation:

At the same time, Maxim (Ratimov) abuse trust system and pretends that his corruption schemes don't exist.
Left me a negative feedback:

Liar and troll. Distributes false information that I allegedly earn money on the forum in corruption schemes.

Trolling is probably that I quoted his posts. Ratimov, are you sure that you have enough red paint for all users who have balls, or are you only afraid of me?

пoльзoвaтeлeй имeющиx яйцa или ты тoлькo мeня бoишьcя?

У тeбя вмecтo яиц вaгинa, зacaдa oднoй фpaзoй тeбя зacтaвил pacплaкaтьcя, cкaзaв пpo кpым. Peзyльтaт твoeй иcтepики y тeбя в пoдпиcи.

тpacт aбyзит пo этoмy пoвoдy.

Moжeшь oбжaлoвaть этoт oтзыв, чтo ты пиздaбoл и тpoлль, кoнeчнo ecли y тeбя ecть пpyфы тex кoppyпциoнныx cxeм, пpo кoтopыe ты cпaмишь в paзныx paздeлax. Ho мы oбa знaeм, чтo этoт выcep cyщecтвyeт тoлькo в paмкax твoeгo бoльнoгo вooбpaжeния.

Translation with my comments:

for all users who have balls, or are you only afraid of me?

Instead of balls, you have a vagina, zasad@ (comment: Ratimov's alt or accomplice) made you cry in one phrase, saying about the Crimea (comment: I have no idea what relation Crimea has to Ratimov and his corruption schemes). The result of your hysterics is in your signature.

abuse trust system.

You can appeal this review that you are a pizdabol (comment: obscene Russian slang means liar) and a troll, of course, if you have proofs of those corruption schemes about which you spam in different sections. But we both know that it only exists in frames of your sick imagination.

If my posts are spam, why don't the moderators delete them?
Are members of DT1 satisfied to be on the same level with a such person?

[airfinex]

Archival citation

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

Stupid idiot, troll, son of a bitch, schizophrenic, Idiot with a broken head, this is how the text of the majority of feedback left by Ratimov begins. Ratimov regularly resorts to reciprocal exceptions and feedback abuse. In addition to this, the user left 35 positive reviews with praise, which have nothing to do with real transactions, except for reviews to the BestChange manager.

I believe in LoyceV religion, believe that the Trust System should not be used to indicate that someone is a troll and Idiot, and I believe that the Trust System should not be used as a weapon. This vengeful attitude of Ratimov demonstrates how he really understands the basics of the trust system, demonstrates with what arrogance he really treats the community.

eddie13 expressed his opinion and Ratimov added him to the list of distrust.

3000+ merits for using Google translate eh?
What a great method of distributing DT voting power..

Bunch of DT + trust too for “catching alts and scambusting”
Not a single actual trade...
DT1...
Not even a 2 year old account..

What a fucking joke this system is..

fxpc quoted Ratimov and received an unreasonable red label



I published evidence of plagiarism using Google translator and Ratimov offended me right away.



Ratimov Left Nullius with an insulting feedback.



There are dozens of reviews of this kind!

Marcel, Marie.

[eddie13]

Umm guys..
We have a complete newb on DT1, who has been kicked from his sig camp for basically sig spamming/merit farming through the deceptive use of google translate (bordering on outright plagiarism), is throwing out shit negative ratings of nothing but personal insults for many of those who speak of it, shit positive ratings, and leaving retaliatory exclusions for basically anyone who says anything or excludes him..

Maybe it’s time for some ~Ratimov action ya think???


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303363.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.0

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