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July 19, 2022, 10:31:36 AM
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At the World Cup, Argentina will be in Group C along with Poland, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. If we see an opponent like this then surely Argentina will go through to the next round, but when I consider winning the title I am not very sure. Because even, representatives from South America in my view Brazil is the best team because even though Brazil and Argentina are both unbeaten but Brazil still has a better winning record than Argentina during the qualifying round. With a record like that, although this is the last chance for Messi but still, Argentina is not the best in this world cup event.
Well... no one claimed that Argentina is the best team at the world cup. Without an argument, Brazil has the highest chances of winning the cup this time around. What favors Argentina is the recent form and presence of Lionel Messi. And since it is probably his last world cup, I am sure that the Argentine team would give their best attempt. Irrespective of the betting odds, this is the best squad Argentina has sent to the world cup ever since 1986. But I don't know whether that is enough to lift the trophy this time.

Brazil team has many star players. And almost all players of the Brazil team are with some renowned club. As a result, their players are becoming more experienced. So Brazil is definitely the favorite for the World Cup. But Argentina's team is not weak. Their forwards are strong. On the other hand, the defense has talented players like Lisandro Martínez. So the possibility of becoming world champions is not low.

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July 19, 2022, 10:42:22 AM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
Last year Argentina won the Copa America after a 28 year wait playing the finals against Brazil. It also served as the first international for Messi. This is considered as the path for the winning of FIFA World Cup in Qatar. Same time there is criticism around, that a single player alone can't take the team towards success. The support to Argentina is much on Messi. Throughout the qualifier Argentina stays undefeated, so more positive things have happened recently. Let's wait for few more months.

I think it will be very difficult for Argentina to win the world championship title, but of course they have a chance.
Messi and his teammates were considered losers after losing 2 South American Championship finals and the 2014 World Cup final.
Especially great pressure was on Messi because everyone compared him to Maradona and it was believed that Messi can't be a better player than Maradona until he brings the world title to Argentina, as Maradona did in 1986.
It was obvious how difficult it was for Messi to play under such pressure and he even considered quitting playing for the national team.
Nevertheless, Messi ended up staying in the national team and finally brought the first title to Argentina at the last South American championship.
It's obvious that this world championship will be the last for Messi and his last chance to bring his country the title of world champion.
It will be a very difficult mission for Messi because Argentina is still not the main favorite in this World Cup, but Messi is a great player and with him every team has a chance to win.
Personally, I consider Brazil and France to be the main favorites, but this World Cup will be very uncertain and anything is possible.

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July 19, 2022, 11:09:34 AM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
Last year Argentina won the Copa America after a 28 year wait playing the finals against Brazil. It also served as the first international for Messi. This is considered as the path for the winning of FIFA World Cup in Qatar. Same time there is criticism around, that a single player alone can't take the team towards success. The support to Argentina is much on Messi. Throughout the qualifier Argentina stays undefeated, so more positive things have happened recently. Let's wait for few more months.
At the World Cup, Argentina will be in Group C along with Poland, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. If we see an opponent like this then surely Argentina will go through to the next round, but when I consider winning the title I am not very sure. Because even, representatives from South America in my view Brazil is the best team because even though Brazil and Argentina are both unbeaten but Brazil still has a better winning record than Argentina during the qualifying round. With a record like that, although this is the last chance for Messi but still, Argentina is not the best in this world cup event.

Argentina is a strong favorite to win the title because they have really a pool of talented players in their squad.Passing the group is absolutely a sure thing for them because they are playing against much weaker opponents when we compare the other teams quality in that group.Qualifying first of the group gives you the so called opportunity to get an easier opponent than if you come second but I think this rule is out now because as far as I know only one team passes because FIFA has increased the number of participants,I am not so sure about this,in UEFA is a sure thing though.So there will be only like 4 games to be played after the group stages or 5 as a maximum,strong teams have equal chances to win the World Cup but I think the team with the better players will get it in the end.


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July 19, 2022, 12:29:42 PM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
I disagree with you that Argentina will reach the final, I highly doubt that. Indeed I also see their current squad is better than before, but other countries have the same thing. They have also had some achievements recently, but I see that it was not enough for them to reach the final at the Qatar World Cup.

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July 19, 2022, 01:26:21 PM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
I disagree with you that Argentina will reach the final, I highly doubt that. Indeed I also see their current squad is better than before, but other countries have the same thing. They have also had some achievements recently, but I see that it was not enough for them to reach the final at the Qatar World Cup.

From the point of view of the bookmakers, the chances of the teams to reach the final are as follows:

To Reach Final

Brazil 3.43

France 3.68

England 3.92

Spain 4.41

Argentina 4.90

Germany 4.90

Belgium 5.88

Netherlands 5.88

Portugal 5.88

On the one hand, this is not such a high chance - 20%, on the other hand, the favorite has a slightly better one - 29% and a whole group of teams has approximately equal chances. But I would not say that betting on such odds looks attractive, it is better to bet on separate games.

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July 19, 2022, 01:26:31 PM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
I disagree with you that Argentina will reach the final, I highly doubt that. Indeed I also see their current squad is better than before, but other countries have the same thing. They have also had some achievements recently, but I see that it was not enough for them to reach the final at the Qatar World Cup.
he saw from the condition of the players consisting of messi and de maria where these two combinations can be the center of the game because I believe both will play well, currently the condition of other professional players such as ronaldo who is not accepted at any club makes the competition even more intense. light for argentina so there is potential to reach the final, moreover the main goalkeeper from argentina who is very skilled will give his best contribution.

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July 19, 2022, 03:18:11 PM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
I disagree with you that Argentina will reach the final, I highly doubt that. Indeed I also see their current squad is better than before, but other countries have the same thing. They have also had some achievements recently, but I see that it was not enough for them to reach the final at the Qatar World Cup.
With current circumstances and on papers we can't predict who is going to win in November at Qatar because all will be happened at ground and here just we have few suggestions or views about our teams. Every one is going to talk about his favourite team and there is no doubt we have few good squads and very good units in this event with Brazil and Argentina are also from these teams with having some chances but like we are watching in last two decades European teams are dominating, and South American teams are on decline which is also having some impact on this event as well, so any result can happen with any strong team can win like Brazil, Argentina, France and England all are in good shape.

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July 19, 2022, 03:24:27 PM
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he saw from the condition of the players consisting of messi and de maria where these two combinations can be the center of the game because I believe both will play well, currently the condition of other professional players such as ronaldo who is not accepted at any club makes the competition even more intense. light for argentina so there is potential to reach the final, moreover the main goalkeeper from argentina who is very skilled will give his best contribution.
Talking about the final, Argentina certainly has a great opportunity. not just because of the good players on the team. they have an interesting strategy and game tactics.
I think Argentina and Brazil meet in the final. it's because Brazil is my favorite country in this year's world cup. The meeting of the two will certainly be an extraordinary final match. will attract a large audience. Both countries are trying to restore past glory.



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July 19, 2022, 08:26:37 PM
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Argentina will be stronger if they play together with team work. Everyone knows Messi is the most important player in the team but that shouldn't dispute against the idea of team work and team spirit. Every player has their different role to play in the squad and if this roles are carried out effectively and efficiently the team will do a lot better in the coming World Cup.
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Argentina itself has a chance to become world champions. They are now in a group with Poland, Saudi Arabia and Mexico. I think we can agree that Saudi Arabia is the weakest link in the group here. Yet Poland and Mexico are dangerous opponents. Argentina has a better selection, but on a lesser day you can lose to both Poland and Mexico. It is possible that you will be 3rd and be eliminated. Still, the Argentines should be able to win this group led by Messi.

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July 19, 2022, 08:48:25 PM
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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
It's very difficult to see I think, even if they made it as a finalist at Conmebol but obviously they will still be very difficult at the World Cup.
To say they are in the final is too bold because in fact there are still many clubs that are equal or even higher in quality than Argentina at the moment.

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Brazil team has many star players. And almost all players of the Brazil team are with some renowned club. As a result, their players are becoming more experienced. So Brazil is definitely the favorite for the World Cup. But Argentina's team is not weak. Their forwards are strong. On the other hand, the defense has talented players like Lisandro Martínez. So the possibility of becoming world champions is not low.

Brazil almost never dropped out of the top-5 teams in the last 2-3 decades. But the same can't be said about Argentina. They are more volatile in terms of form, at least when compared to Brazil. All that said, this time they have sent a very strong side to Qatar. It is well balanced and although Messi will be leading the attack the other players are also quite capable. And from what we have seen in Copa America, the team bonding has remained exceptional. A little bit of luck, and they will lift the trophy for the first time after 1986.

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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
It's very difficult to see I think, even if they made it as a finalist at Conmebol but obviously they will still be very difficult at the World Cup.
To say they are in the final is too bold because in fact there are still many clubs that are equal or even higher in quality than Argentina at the moment.

we agree there are many equal and great teams that will compete in qatar world cup, i have said it in many posts. 
For example, Brazil, France, Germany, or the team that became the dark horse. they have many extraordinary talented players who will compete in this world cup event. all the teams i mentioned have the potential to become champions even i am sure that france will play amazingly, as well as argentina's rivals brazil, they will do a good job and become one of the favorite squad in the qatar world cup.

you may disagree with my choice but the fact is argentina is a great squad which has many talented players qualified and the captain's role in the team.  that's why argentina became a finalist CONMEBOL.

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I disagree with you that Argentina will reach the final, I highly doubt that. Indeed I also see their current squad is better than before, but other countries have the same thing. They have also had some achievements recently, but I see that it was not enough for them to reach the final at the Qatar World Cup.
he saw from the condition of the players consisting of messi and de maria where these two combinations can be the center of the game because I believe both will play well, currently the condition of other professional players such as ronaldo who is not accepted at any club makes the competition even more intense. light for argentina so there is potential to reach the final, moreover the main goalkeeper from argentina who is very skilled will give his best contribution.
In terms of the individual quality of the players, it is indeed very good therapy if you look at the quality of individuals like this, it is clear that there are a lot of qualified national teams such as France, Belgium, Brazil and even Portugal and England.
There are a lot of qualified players from every team and indeed it's not just Argentina so looking at the quality of the individual it's still too hasty to say they are in the final.

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Argentina itself has a chance to become world champions. They are now in a group with Poland, Saudi Arabia and Mexico.
Argentina have a chance to win the world cup, but it is not because of the teams in their group, Argentina are always expected to make it out of the group stage, they are a top national side, and being eliminated in the group stages of the world cup will be a shock. If they play to the best of their ability as a great national team they will finish top of that group, Poland seems like the only strong competition for them there, but they should finish above them. This world cup is going to be Messi's last one, that can be something to motivate the Argentine national team to go all out for gold when the world cup starts.

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Argentina itself has a chance to become world champions. They are now in a group with Poland, Saudi Arabia and Mexico.
Argentina have a chance to win the world cup, but it is not because of the teams in their group, Argentina are always expected to make it out of the group stage, they are a top national side, and being eliminated in the group stages of the world cup will be a shock. If they play to the best of their ability as a great national team they will finish top of that group, Poland seems like the only strong competition for them there, but they should finish above them. This world cup is going to be Messi's last one, that can be something to motivate the Argentine national team to go all out for gold when the world cup starts.

Yeah, there's no chance that Argentina doesn't pass the group stage. But having said that, Italy didn't qualify for this world cup, and I would have never thought that, so you never know really.

The world cup is a very competitive tournament, and it usually gives you surprises.

But yeah, Messi is definitely going out with a bang in this world cup. Hopefully we'll see him playing at another level. This is the last thing he needs to win, even though he will always live in the shadow of Maradona.

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July 20, 2022, 02:45:23 PM
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Argentina itself has a chance to become world champions. They are now in a group with Poland, Saudi Arabia and Mexico.
Argentina have a chance to win the world cup, but it is not because of the teams in their group, Argentina are always expected to make it out of the group stage, they are a top national side, and being eliminated in the group stages of the world cup will be a shock. If they play to the best of their ability as a great national team they will finish top of that group, Poland seems like the only strong competition for them there, but they should finish above them. This world cup is going to be Messi's last one, that can be something to motivate the Argentine national team to go all out for gold when the world cup starts.
In group matches, most chances they will stay at top and this is going to be good for them with this they can face which will second in their group which is also good advantage for them Argentina is mostly having good results in early stages, but they mostly feel problem in last stages where mostly quality teams need to give their best they usually dropped which is having big issue for them in last few years but with current squad they can do some better and have chance to go through into last four which is also good but as for Messi they need to win which is also possible but still need good work and better team combination.

Few players are at their best in club games but still need to do work at national level which is very important for winning titles.

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Argentina will be stronger if they play together with team work. Everyone knows Messi is the most important player in the team but that shouldn't dispute against the idea of team work and team spirit. Every player has their different role to play in the squad and if this roles are carried out effectively and efficiently the team will do a lot better in the coming World Cup.
I think all teams will also do team work to be stronger and better and it's not only about Argentina, even though this Argentina has a lot of great players but I personally wouldn't expect too much with Argentina. The number of star players in the national team will not guarantee good results either, because in the world cup the teams that only have a mediocre squad can be very good in the match. I'm just giving an overview of Denmark they don't have many star players in the squad but in reality, their gameplay is very tight and has a very strong looking power. Therefore, I personally don't expect too much from a team like Argentina, but if they can win the title then obviously it's a good achievement and they deserve it.

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We all know how much Lionel Messi wanted to lift the world cup in his hands. Because the biggest criticism of Lionel Messi was that he could not play in the Argentina national team as he played with the Barcelona jersey. If they win the world cup, maybe they will have answered everyone about it. Messi is one of the best players of all time. The world cup is so important that the biggest sadness in his career is the lack of it. This is the last chance for Messi and Ronaldo. They both want this trophy very much.
Because of that basis Leonel Messi could not be said to be incarnated by Maradona, at the Messi club level has won many titles, but for the country he has not been able to give anything, this is the last opportunity for him to prove. If this time fails, then it is certain he will close his career without being able to win the World Cup

The argument is that Messi always perform well for his club side, but he never repeats that while representing the Argentine national team. Previously it was rumored that he was not in good terms with the coach, as well as with some of the other players. But the performance in Copa America rubbishes these allegations. Argentina won the title for the 15th time, and Messi was the top scorer (as well as the winning captain). From what I saw, the team bonding was excellent under the captaincy of Messi.
Most likely Messi does not have a suitable partner for him to play in the country, this is quite different when he is in the Barcelona club that has been won many titles, in his country there are no other players who are able to have a big impact on progress in winning the title, I think The Club's atmosphere with his country is quite different, this might not affect the contribution of Leonel Messi

It is difficult for Messi to achieve his ambitions here because even though he is great on an individual basis and the other players have also been very good but indeed sometimes their dominance in the Conmebol zone but obviously the world cup is not as simple as expected.
But for the title now I feel they will talk a lot but not in the knockout phase.
They will only go through the group stage but will never make it to the final I don't think.
Maybe this can be said to be true, usually the players will not be solid when playing for the country, because the duration of time to play together, so that to reach the final will be difficult, the game in each club will be far different when playing with the country, because Each coach has their own style and way, this makes the players not solid when playing for the country

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we all know argentina is one of the favorite teams in the qatar world cup, this prestigious cup event every four years is the last competition for messi, argentina will do their best and target the world champion under captain messi, argentina squad is currently the best compared to some  last year, argentina were conmebol championship finalists if only to qualify from the round of 16 i think argentina will not go through much trouble. I believe Argentina will enter the final in the Qatar World Cup.
It's very difficult to see I think, even if they made it as a finalist at Conmebol but obviously they will still be very difficult at the World Cup.
To say they are in the final is too bold because in fact there are still many clubs that are equal or even higher in quality than Argentina at the moment.

we agree there are many equal and great teams that will compete in qatar world cup, i have said it in many posts.  
For example, Brazil, France, Germany, or the team that became the dark horse. they have many extraordinary talented players who will compete in this world cup event. all the teams i mentioned have the potential to become champions even i am sure that france will play amazingly, as well as argentina's rivals brazil, they will do a good job and become one of the favorite squad in the qatar world cup.

you may disagree with my choice but the fact is argentina is a great squad which has many talented players qualified and the captain's role in the team.  that's why argentina became a finalist CONMEBOL.
Regardless of anything we can argue in this case Cheesy
As I said being a finalist there is a good thing but with Argentina's record in the world cup it's not very good for them.
As for Messi being the captain of the team, it certainly provides a good motivation but until now for the world cup title I don't see anything more than him.

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