2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[tulusikhlas]

If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.

I don't think the team that is better than the opponent is always the team that can win the game. Because many teams also win because their luck is great. Yes it can not be separated from the world of football, it will always be side by side. But strangely many also mock, they will say "win by luck". Though apart from luck there is a hard effort they do.

[X-ray]

If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee.

I do know what's your point but you can imagine that sometime when referee was making a mistake and that can also give a very bad impact to the team. The mentality will be also affected caused by referee mistakenly deciding wrong decision. The game must be fair for anyteam.
I support the development of the tech but again we didn't need complicated tech. Just simple tech with very very good accuracy that can help referee to decide the decision even faster with high accuracy.

[KTChampions]

If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.

Are you sure about this? There have been many examples in history when a referee's mistake affected the game very much and as a result, a stronger team was eliminated from the tournament. Other than that, it's obvious that there's a difference between simply being stronger than your opponent or being much stronger than your opponent in order to beat him when the referee errs in his favor. Who needs such stress?

[Naficopa]

If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.

Are you sure about this? There have been many examples in history when a referee's mistake affected the game very much and as a result, a stronger team was eliminated from the tournament. Other than that, it's obvious that there's a difference between simply being stronger than your opponent or being much stronger than your opponent in order to beat him when the referee errs in his favor. Who needs such stress?

Many a time this happens the referee are unable to make the right decision.
But the good thing is there are neutral umpires in many sports and that make a game very easy - also in football 4th referee or video assistance referee plays a vital role too.

[8rch7]

A lot of people are talking about the problems that can be caused by the introduction of technology, VAR. Obviously, this will be a massive improvement for football. It is actually really comforting to know that there are not going to be many wrong decisions taken at all. We have seen how wrong decisions can affect a match. But refs are humans too. And to err is human. Technology is the way to fix these problems. We have seen a lot of controversial decisions taken in football, including a goal scored with a hand, literally. So it would be really encouraging to see teams treated with justice.

When it was first introduced, many did not agree with the presence of VAR, apart from stopping the rhythm of the match and decreasing the tension in the match. But over time now there are many advantages to using VAR, although sometimes there are some refereeing decisions that still have to be questioned. For example, not all refereeing violations see VAR and this has sparked a bit of controversy. Hopefully in the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar the use of VAR will have a pretty good impact, don't make the match stop for a long time and the referee can make a decision as soon as possible.

[Fara Chan]

I think it's not really about Messi playing well with the club and not so bad with the nation. I think it's about him playing well in Barcelona and not well with his nation. Plus, he won the cup finally with his nation as well, so it's not really a valid argument anymore. Because right now, we have him playing not so well with PSG, and we have seen him win a cup with his nation, so that narrative of him not being well in his nation is not anymore.

I know that it's not going to hold a candle to what he has achieved with Barcelona, it was a system he was built in, he grow up there and that is why I believe that he would never be as good as that ever again, and not just about age anymore.

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup

I don't think that Argentine team is lacking any talent. The real reason is that Messi hasn't played that often for Argentina. Also, let's not forget the fact that Messi is a dual citizen of Spain and Argentina. Along with Messi, there are very talented players such as Paulo Dybala and Lautaro Martínez in the forward department. Starting from 2021 he has made regular appearances for them, but before that he wasn't very familiar with the team strategy. Now he is close to retirement and wants to be remembered as the player who won the world cup for his country.

We are not in the capacity to judge Argentina not to have talent, but based on the country's matches we have seen, Argentina cannot play a promising ball, Messi is not a source of strength for them to rise, even though the quality of a Messi is never doubted when playing in Barcelona, ​​I agree as you said, that strategies and schedules to play together are far more or less, so that the team is not asil as they play in their respective clubs

[rahmad2nd]

This also applies to the squad of any country that will compete later, no one can guarantee to win the world cup tournament in Qatar.

messi, he does not guarantee that he and his team will win the title this time. at least he still wants to try as much as possible to present the world cup title one last time in transition to retirement for his country.
regardless that they can achieve it or fail halfway.

I am optimistic that Messi and the Argentina squad will work very hard and give their best. even though messi is not playing in his best performance at psg but in the world of football everything can happen unexpectedly as well as other squads that will compete later in the world cup qatar all have hopes and opportunities.
only a few months away we will know later after the match is held.

[joker_josue]

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

[Sterbens]

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

There is definitely a difference when it comes to playing for club and country. Not that they are unprofessional but if they are at the end of their careers surely they are more willing to do more for their country. Moreover, this is likely to be the last World Cup for several star players, one of which is Messi.
Apart from all that, we will watch the game of the players who are now old. It's very sad.

[tbterryboy]

If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.

Are you sure about this? There have been many examples in history when a referee's mistake affected the game very much and as a result, a stronger team was eliminated from the tournament. Other than that, it's obvious that there's a difference between simply being stronger than your opponent or being much stronger than your opponent in order to beat him when the referee errs in his favor. Who needs such stress?

Maybe you are right and have solid view, but I am also having too many examples from history when we have wrong decisions from referees/empires but still teams won and have trophies in their wallet even it's less than which lost due to wrong decision from referees but still exist.

Because, as we all know luck all time have good faith with brave man still this can happen because I personally watch too many events which were going with wrong decisions but still won by top class teams without any big trouble in many games like Soccer, Cricket and Field Hockey.

Right now, technology is going into positive way even going to take long time but could be good for game and sports persons.

[KTChampions]

Are you sure about this? There have been many examples in history when a referee's mistake affected the game very much and as a result, a stronger team was eliminated from the tournament. Other than that, it's obvious that there's a difference between simply being stronger than your opponent or being much stronger than your opponent in order to beat him when the referee errs in his favor. Who needs such stress?

Many a time this happens the referee are unable to make the right decision.
But the good thing is there are neutral umpires in many sports and that make a game very easy - also in football 4th referee or video assistance referee plays a vital role too.

In football, this appeared quite recently, and then with great resistance from UEFA/FIFA officials. It's just that at a certain point, the degenerative backwardness of football from tennis (where the touch of the ball to the court is recorded with millimeter accuracy) became so obvious that they had to go for it and now they (presumably) have one less lever to influence the outcome of the game.

[joker_josue]

Are you sure about this? There have been many examples in history when a referee's mistake affected the game very much and as a result, a stronger team was eliminated from the tournament. Other than that, it's obvious that there's a difference between simply being stronger than your opponent or being much stronger than your opponent in order to beat him when the referee errs in his favor. Who needs such stress?

Many a time this happens the referee are unable to make the right decision.
But the good thing is there are neutral umpires in many sports and that make a game very easy - also in football 4th referee or video assistance referee plays a vital role too.

In football, this appeared quite recently, and then with great resistance from UEFA/FIFA officials. It's just that at a certain point, the degenerative backwardness of football from tennis (where the touch of the ball to the court is recorded with millimeter accuracy) became so obvious that they had to go for it and now they (presumably) have one less lever to influence the outcome of the game.

But unfortunately, even with the new football technologies, we still see mistakes that shouldn't happen.
This happens, not because of the technology, but because the rules of the games remain very subjective, lacking interpretation. And while the rules are not clearer, and less linked to the interpretation of the referees, we will see fairer football for everyone. Of course, in the midst of this, we still have to count on the sporting ideology, where we have leagues that respect the rules better than others.

[Jody.Drummer]

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

He was even determined when it came to his country.
But the problem in this case will be a bit difficult because he still seems to be playing alone later considering sometimes with things like being focused like this apart from being unsure of his partner it also becomes quite bad because he seems to be fighting alone.

Their country never loses good players and has big names there but things like this will not be suitable if all eyes are only on Messi.

[vennali]

To see the quality of a Messi in Barcelona, ​​because at PSG he hasn't done anything, that's why I took a few examples when he was still playing in Barcelona, ​​then the World Cup also had not yet taken place so it was more appropriate to compare Messi while still playing there, for the future Age and Club PSG no longer guarantee Messi can do much in the World Cup

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

Also you should look into the fact that at Barca, he was in his prime and was the main man while in PSG, there are other superstars that have plays designed for them as well. Naymar and M'bappe can create their own goals or facilitate others with their brilliance and the team just doesnt rely as much as Barca would with Messi. He doesn't have to play his peak in a league that PSG were dominating anyways, with or without him. That being said, for Argentina, he is definitely required to perform or the team collapses in attack. Even though they have good attacking talent in Argentina but you need a player like Messi to unlock opponents defense.

[wiss19]

Maybe you are right and have solid view, but I am also having too many examples from history when we have wrong decisions from referees/empires but still teams won and have trophies in their wallet even it's less than which lost due to wrong decision from referees but still exist.

Because, as we all know luck all time have good faith with brave man still this can happen because I personally watch too many events which were going with wrong decisions but still won by top class teams without any big trouble in many games like Soccer, Cricket and Field Hockey.

Right now, technology is going into positive way even going to take long time but could be good for game and sports persons.

I agree, the results are usually getting more and more legit thanks to VAR and if we add more tech to it then we are going to do even better. Of course, it doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with zero mistakes, there will be a few in the end but that doesn't mean that it is a lot lesser these days.

So all in all we are in a better situation than we used to be and that is why I am all for the newer and better technology, it would allow people to see games that is more fair. We all know bribery in football as well, refs used to get money from clubs and win games as well, this really happened like until 10 years ago or so, and now with new higher tech, it is much harder.

[jaberwock]

In football, this appeared quite recently, and then with great resistance from UEFA/FIFA officials. It's just that at a certain point, the degenerative backwardness of football from tennis (where the touch of the ball to the court is recorded with millimeter accuracy) became so obvious that they had to go for it and now they (presumably) have one less lever to influence the outcome of the game.

But unfortunately, even with the new football technologies, we still see mistakes that shouldn't happen.
This happens, not because of the technology, but because the rules of the games remain very subjective, lacking interpretation. And while the rules are not clearer, and less linked to the interpretation of the referees, we will see fairer football for everyone. Of course, in the midst of this, we still have to count on the sporting ideology, where we have leagues that respect the rules better than others.

Things could be more flexible in near future because currently we are in early stages of this technology and human combination they need some more soft rules and better policies for this all which create better results even this all is still not easy, but surely we will have better development which could be more helpful for all players and organizers because they all need middle way for this, and it's very important without this all we will be not good and have controversies as well which could be created mess up.

Now in next world cup as we are having some better use of technology and better rules about offside, hopefully this all could be brought to good direction which will be give new paths to soccer leagues as well.

[8rch7]

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

Have different quality between La Liga and Ligue 1 why make Lionel Messi have under performance last one season, I think with Barcelona and playing on La Liga most competitive league because have Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, Sevilla, Sociedad and many club with good level. Different atmosphere when Lionel Messi playing for PSG on Ligue 1, there are not any team with the same financial with PSG and almost all participant on Ligue 1 have lower budget for financial and active on window transfer, I think Ligue 1 not any competitive team for PSG because Marseille or AS Monaco under level from PSG.

[Sithara007]

There is definitely a difference when it comes to playing for club and country. Not that they are unprofessional but if they are at the end of their careers surely they are more willing to do more for their country. Moreover, this is likely to be the last World Cup for several star players, one of which is Messi.
Apart from all that, we will watch the game of the players who are now old. It's very sad.

I have noticed this pattern. During the younger years, players tend to give more importance to their club side. But during the later years, they give more preference to national duty. Messi for his part have never been a part of the world cup winning team and that is why he want Argentina to lift the trophy this time. The same can be said about Ronaldo as well. And this is going to be the last chance for both these players. No matter how many competitions they win for their club side, none of that can match the world cup win.

[Fara Chan]

It is true that when Messi was at Barcelona, he had better quality in his game, compared to what he has done at PSG. On the other hand, he in the Argentina national team has been doing much better than he was before. It's clear that he has been much more focused on playing for his country, and determined to do his best. So I believe that in this Worlds he will try to be in the best possible shape.

In Barcelona he played for quite a long time, this squad has raised his name to the peak of his career, the combination and mix of football at Barcelona belongs to a category that is quite perfect for a Messi, so many titles have been won there together with the team, but speaking for the country, Messi there are still very few achievements given, so this year's world cup is the last chance to prove it

There is definitely a difference when it comes to playing for club and country. Not that they are unprofessional but if they are at the end of their careers surely they are more willing to do more for their country. Moreover, this is likely to be the last World Cup for several star players, one of which is Messi.
Apart from all that, we will watch the game of the players who are now old. It's very sad.

At the club they train and play so often, so that the combination of one player with another is more pronounced, compared to playing for the country, the professionalism of a player is not an excuse that a little time for the country is an excuse, but I think it will affect the final result of every game played in the country

He was even determined when it came to his country.
But the problem in this case will be a bit difficult because he still seems to be playing alone later considering sometimes with things like being focused like this apart from being unsure of his partner it also becomes quite bad because he seems to be fighting alone.
Their country never loses good players and has big names there but things like this will not be suitable if all eyes are only on Messi.

Argentina have great players who are able to play collectively together with Messi, but because the mix in the squad is not achieved, so Messi seems to be fighting for himself for his country, this is due to the time together, not enough training and coupled with the coach's strategy which may not suit his style. every player

Also you should look into the fact that at Barca, he was in his prime and was the main man while in PSG, there are other superstars that have plays designed for them as well. Naymar and M'bappe can create their own goals or facilitate others with their brilliance and the team just doesnt rely as much as Barca would with Messi. He doesn't have to play his peak in a league that PSG were dominating anyways, with or without him. That being said, for Argentina, he is definitely required to perform or the team collapses in attack. Even though they have good attacking talent in Argentina but you need a player like Messi to unlock opponents defense.

The quality of players is also influenced by the collective collective of players, where the games they play relate to each other, no doubt their heyday at Barcelona is also the main player at PSG at this time, but collectively it is not only the individual players who move to PSG , Barcelona's peak moment of glory also had the right time, so there were many reasons that influenced the club to experience its heyday

[Jody.Drummer]

He was even determined when it came to his country.
But the problem in this case will be a bit difficult because he still seems to be playing alone later considering sometimes with things like being focused like this apart from being unsure of his partner it also becomes quite bad because he seems to be fighting alone.
Their country never loses good players and has big names there but things like this will not be suitable if all eyes are only on Messi.

Argentina have great players who are able to play collectively together with Messi, but because the mix in the squad is not achieved, so Messi seems to be fighting for himself for his country, this is due to the time together, not enough training and coupled with the coach's strategy which may not suit his style. every player

I don't think this is the right reason because other national teams are also the same, especially with players who have important roles in clubs and have busy schedules.
I think this is just an excuse that feels contrived.

They weren't very lucky when they were in the world cup stage so they couldn't do much there.