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July 22, 2022, 05:21:36 PM
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This semi-auto offside technology seems like it can be very helpful in the World Cup. Sometimes referees can have big problems on detecting an offside even in the presence of the usual offside line technology. I assume that this new semi-auto one is going to be tested in an official tournament for the first time. If it becomes successful then we can see it in many leagues after the World Cup ends. Decreasing the number of mistakes to minimum must be utmost effort for the people in charge.
I welcome when there is a lot of technology that helps to minimize mistakes in football. But on the other hand I feel it will reduce the drama of football itself a bit. As I especially feel, what makes us more interested in the match is the drama, although sometimes I feel irritated when there is a referee's decision that is considered controversial.
If you welcome and accept well then you have to be able to let the drama you want go away and I wonder, you welcome it but you can't lose from the drama itself, how can that be. However, the development of that era will occur and we must be prepared for all the changes that occur, because we live in a world that is constantly evolving. After all, even though technology has been applied in football, drama will always come with the latest version. You can see how VAR works, even though it has been applied but with this technology the tension in football is still high, right? and football will still have its drama in every match.

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July 22, 2022, 05:42:57 PM
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I feel the same thing too, too much of this introduction of technology will spoil the game, var has already been introduced and it is enough if you ask me, it is not like i like var, i believe it slows down the game too much, and even if they have time to decide on a decision, they make mistakes a few times and increase controversy in football, but i will prefer if var alone can do the job in making sure mistakes are cut down to the very minimum. I don't like the idea of semi-automatic offside technology, and i hope it ends in the world cup, we don't need it in our football leagues or the champions league.

Right now, VAR is being used very rarely. Only once in a while, the referees need assistance in deciding whether the ball had crossed the line or not. But if they implement it for off-side, then my concern is that it will cause a lot of delays. Because in the same match, we may have 3-4 instances of off-side. If the match gets paused this often, then the fans may complain about it. As of now, I will not prefer VAR for off-side. For deciding whether the ball has passed the goal-line, it is OK. But let's restrict its usage just to it.

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July 22, 2022, 05:49:41 PM
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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.

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July 22, 2022, 09:23:22 PM
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This semi-auto offside technology seems like it can be very helpful in the World Cup. Sometimes referees can have big problems on detecting an offside even in the presence of the usual offside line technology. I assume that this new semi-auto one is going to be tested in an official tournament for the first time. If it becomes successful then we can see it in many leagues after the World Cup ends. Decreasing the number of mistakes to minimum must be utmost effort for the people in charge.
I welcome when there is a lot of technology that helps to minimize mistakes in football. But on the other hand I feel it will reduce the drama of football itself a bit. As I especially feel, what makes us more interested in the match is the drama, although sometimes I feel irritated when there is a referee's decision that is considered controversial.
I don't know, less drama seems like a good thing to do actually, why would we want more drama? Just have the decisions checked each time from the VAR and you will get the results. As long as the VAR results are aired on TV, if the ref makes a wrong decision when the VAR clearly shows the right one, then people could see if the ref is bad or not, and ref association or whatever could warn the ref.

So all in all we shouldn't really be wanting less tech, we should want more. Of course, it is going to stop the games a bit more and it would have a bit less flow, but it could still be something enough to go on. All in all, just realize that drama is the outside of the pitch stuff, and we shouldn't want those dramas.
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July 22, 2022, 09:32:16 PM
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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.
We are in a generation where technology is taking over, simplifying life and making things easy for a better life. The introduction of the VAR to the football made it easy to detect mistakes in officiating and so far it has helped so much and we will be hopeful the introduction of automatic offside detection technology will also improve the game.

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July 22, 2022, 09:46:02 PM
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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.

Maybe accuracy isnt 100% like expected in some situations but its better with VAR them without it. The new thing that they added in the ball to detect automatic offside will be insane and i hope it will work. Still with VAR things need to be closely looked so there isnt any mistake.

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July 23, 2022, 12:54:35 AM
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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.

Yes, VAR will be used....

The big problem with VAR is not its accuracy, but the definition of clear HUMAN rules that say when it should be used, when the head referee should be called by the VAR team and in what situations this referee can or cannot accept a situation. presented by the VAR.

The main problem with VAR is still the human interpretation of when and how to apply the rules equally between all teams.

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Yes, VAR will be used....

The big problem with VAR is not its accuracy, but the definition of clear HUMAN rules that say when it should be used, when the head referee should be called by the VAR team and in what situations this referee can or cannot accept a situation. presented by the VAR.

The main problem with VAR is still the human interpretation of when and how to apply the rules equally between all teams.

This is not a major issue. In cricket, it is the players who decide when to use the DRS (Decision Review System). In a match, each team has 2 chances when to take the DRS when they are not satisfied with the decision from the umpire (referee in football). But in football, it is the referee who decides when to use the VAR. Maybe they should give more power to the players instead. If the coach or the players are not satisfied with any of the decisions, then they should have the power to review that decision with the help from VAR.

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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.
It will be like that, VAR will be very helpful for the referee on the field in certain situations. But it comes back to the main problem, which is using VAR itself. Don't let the use of VAR end up being a new controversial one. As a connoisseur of football, of course, I personally will support all the progress.

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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.


The video assistant referee (VAR) has been updated with (SOAD) semi-automated offside technology. 
This latest technology is claimed to be more accurate in monitoring offside violations in a match and this latest technology will replace the Video Assistant Referee (VAR).

The new system features 12 stadium cameras that will track the position of the ball and each individual player, including 29 different data points on each player's limbs and extremities.
SOAT will be used in celebration of the Qatar world cup tournament. despite the controversy that exists, the presence of this latest version of SOAT or VAR technology in the QATAR world cup is an interesting technological innovation in the world of football.

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July 23, 2022, 09:03:31 AM
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This latest technology is claimed to be more accurate in monitoring offside violations in a match and this latest technology will replace the Video Assistant Referee (VAR).
It isn't going to replace var, they will both be used in this world cup. Could you probably be predicting it will replace var in the future, if that is what you meant, i don't wish the same, i can only hope this ends with the world cup, it should not be brought into our leagues, var has already made football slower and a little bit boring sometimes, i hope we only have to deal with it, and not another technological inclusion to football.
despite the controversy that exists, the presence of this latest version of SOAT or VAR technology in the QATAR world cup is an interesting technological innovation in the world of football.
You can say i am of the old school, but it is not interesting to me.

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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.
It will be like that, VAR will be very helpful for the referee on the field in certain situations. But it comes back to the main problem, which is using VAR itself. Don't let the use of VAR end up being a new controversial one. As a connoisseur of football, of course, I personally will support all the progress.
During the game, a referee some times cannot give the right decision as a result the mistake becomes contradictory. VAR is an important issue in such problems. Who helps to point out what is happen really in the field. Now VAR is an important things to play any match or tournament. It is now used in all kinds of international games. We have already heard that automated offside technology will be used in the Qatar World Cup. Which will make the game more clear to the viewers.

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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.

Personally, I think that VAR technology has brought more benefits than harm to football.
Of course, VAR is only technology, and a person must analyze and interpret the information received and make a final decision, given that it is impossible to predict all situations in football.
Football players work very hard to achieve success in football, they wait 4 years for the world championship and it is really not fair that one wrong decision of the referee takes away their right to success.
Football is an increasingly fast game, sometimes millimeters or fractions of a second are decisive, and it is very difficult for the referee to see everything accurately and make the right decision at a moment's notice.
In the history of football, we have a lot of controversial decisions. If VAR technology had existed in 1966, England would probably never have been world champions in football. This is a situation that is still being talked about today, more than half a century later.

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This latest technology is claimed to be more accurate in monitoring offside violations in a match and this latest technology will replace the Video Assistant Referee (VAR).
It isn't going to replace var, they will both be used in this world cup. Could you probably be predicting it will replace var in the future, if that is what you meant, i don't wish the same, i can only hope this ends with the world cup, it should not be brought into our leagues, var has already made football slower and a little bit boring sometimes, i hope we only have to deal with it, and not another technological inclusion to football.
Even when using both, one of them would be to make sure that offside wouldn't happen anymore, and everyone could make sure things are smooth, while the other one would be used to repeat the action and see if it was a correct one or not. I mean think about it, if the goalkeeper touched the striker and that's why it's a penalty, or didn't touch?

This has nothing to do with the new tech, but it has everything to do with VAR,, and that is why we are going to see both of them at the same time. Hopefully we are going to end up seeing plenty more people who will understand the difference between the two, and this will definitely a good testing ground and spread to every other league if it works well.
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The VAR will certainly be used at the world championship in Qatar. The VAR should be a great added value, but there too it is the interpretation of how a referee and his assistant view a situation. You don't always have written rules for situations, even with a penalty for example. 50% of the VAR would give him and 50% would not. Honesty and accuracy is not guaranteed with the VAR and that is the main problem.
Despite everything, I think that the VAR will have a great added value at the World Cup.

Personally, I think that VAR technology has brought more benefits than harm to football.
Of course, VAR is only technology, and a person must analyze and interpret the information received and make a final decision, given that it is impossible to predict all situations in football.
Football players work very hard to achieve success in football, they wait 4 years for the world championship and it is really not fair that one wrong decision of the referee takes away their right to success.
Football is an increasingly fast game, sometimes millimeters or fractions of a second are decisive, and it is very difficult for the referee to see everything accurately and make the right decision at a moment's notice.
In the history of football, we have a lot of controversial decisions. If VAR technology had existed in 1966, England would probably never have been world champions in football. This is a situation that is still being talked about today, more than half a century later.
Since you are talking about the VAR, I find it useful but quite annoying and it made waste of time even worse in football.. Many rules should be changed to make it better.
The main referee shouldn't stop the game and watch the reply over and over, it is up to the referees in the room or he should stop the timer just like handball and basketball and do whatever he wants, preferably without taking much time.
Imagine if we have many ambiguous situations in World Cup games and like 5-6 VAR in a match, this will literally kill the fun and make it a very bad game.

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If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.

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Personally, I think that VAR technology has brought more benefits than harm to football. Of course, VAR is only technology, and a person must analyze and interpret the information received and make a final decision, given that it is impossible to predict all situations in football. Football players work very hard to achieve success in football, they wait 4 years for the world championship and it is really not fair that one wrong decision of the referee takes away their right to success. Football is an increasingly fast game, sometimes millimeters or fractions of a second are decisive, and it is very difficult for the referee to see everything accurately and make the right decision at a moment's notice.
In the history of football, we have a lot of controversial decisions. If VAR technology had existed in 1966, England would probably never have been world champions in football. This is a situation that is still being talked about today, more than half a century later.
Since you are talking about the VAR, I find it useful but quite annoying and it made waste of time even worse in football.. Many rules should be changed to make it better.
The main referee shouldn't stop the game and watch the reply over and over, it is up to the referees in the room or he should stop the timer just like handball and basketball and do whatever he wants, preferably without taking much time.
Imagine if we have many ambiguous situations in World Cup games and like 5-6 VAR in a match, this will literally kill the fun and make it a very bad game.

A lot of people are talking about the problems that can be caused by the introduction of technology, VAR. Obviously, this will be a massive improvement for football. It is actually really comforting to know that there are not going to be many wrong decisions taken at all. We have seen how wrong decisions can affect a match. But refs are humans too. And to err is human. Technology is the way to fix these problems. We have seen a lot of controversial decisions taken in football, including a goal scored with a hand, literally. So it would be really encouraging to see teams treated with justice.

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July 23, 2022, 09:38:51 PM
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It will be like that, VAR will be very helpful for the referee on the field in certain situations. But it comes back to the main problem, which is using VAR itself. Don't let the use of VAR end up being a new controversial one. As a connoisseur of football, of course, I personally will support all the progress.
During the game, a referee some times cannot give the right decision as a result the mistake becomes contradictory. VAR is an important issue in such problems. Who helps to point out what is happen really in the field. Now VAR is an important things to play any match or tournament. It is now used in all kinds of international games. We have already heard that automated offside technology will be used in the Qatar World Cup. Which will make the game more clear to the viewers.
Even use of technology is good thing but still we need some good transparency for this as well VAR is also not perfect and for better use of this we need a referee and another one who can give his opinion very quickly to on ground referee instead of ground go and check replays about his decision here but before any final announcement they both consult and then announces may be this give some better result even having some hassle and extra specialist referee but for avoiding mistakes we need these things otherwise going without this all technology is also having good results for many decades.

But, as many already having their concerns about few decisions like offside then surely they can go for on VAR and then give their decision but for me as we already have three referees it's going okay for all parties.

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July 24, 2022, 10:51:19 AM
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Personally, I think that VAR technology has brought more benefits than harm to football. Of course, VAR is only technology, and a person must analyze and interpret the information received and make a final decision, given that it is impossible to predict all situations in football. Football players work very hard to achieve success in football, they wait 4 years for the world championship and it is really not fair that one wrong decision of the referee takes away their right to success. Football is an increasingly fast game, sometimes millimeters or fractions of a second are decisive, and it is very difficult for the referee to see everything accurately and make the right decision at a moment's notice.
In the history of football, we have a lot of controversial decisions. If VAR technology had existed in 1966, England would probably never have been world champions in football. This is a situation that is still being talked about today, more than half a century later.
Since you are talking about the VAR, I find it useful but quite annoying and it made waste of time even worse in football.. Many rules should be changed to make it better.
The main referee shouldn't stop the game and watch the reply over and over, it is up to the referees in the room or he should stop the timer just like handball and basketball and do whatever he wants, preferably without taking much time.
Imagine if we have many ambiguous situations in World Cup games and like 5-6 VAR in a match, this will literally kill the fun and make it a very bad game.

A lot of people are talking about the problems that can be caused by the introduction of technology, VAR. Obviously, this will be a massive improvement for football. It is actually really comforting to know that there are not going to be many wrong decisions taken at all. We have seen how wrong decisions can affect a match. But refs are humans too. And to err is human. Technology is the way to fix these problems. We have seen a lot of controversial decisions taken in football, including a goal scored with a hand, literally. So it would be really encouraging to see teams treated with justice.

I agree that it would not be good if technology is used too much in football, and that because of the watching videos of controversial situations referee stops the game too often.
The right balance needs to be found between the requirement for non-interruption of the game and the checking of possible serious mistakes by the referees that directly affect the result of the match.
After all, don't we have a cooling break lately, when the matches are played in high heat and in difficult conditions, so that the players can refresh themselves and rest?
Personally, I think that the staff in the VAR rooms should not react to every suspicious situation in the match, but only when there is a high probability that a serious refereeing error has occurred that directly affects the result.

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July 24, 2022, 12:44:30 PM
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If you end up being better than the opponent, you will still win the matches. Even because of a wrong decision by the referee. You see top teams make the difference in that, they don't need VAR to win matches. The World Cup is also getting closer and closer, after the summer holidays there are still a few matches for the Nations League in preparation and then we can start counting down.
I don't think the team that is better than the opponent is always the team that can win the game. Because many teams also win because their luck is great. Yes it can not be separated from the world of football, it will always be side by side. But strangely many also mock, they will say "win by luck". Though apart from luck there is a hard effort they do.

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