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December 25, 2020, 07:29:38 PM
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I wanted to apologize to anyone whose trust I may have broken over the years, including but not limited to one particular incident. I got the idea from another forum member who was in very good standing, and was well trusted at the time throughout the community -- I entered into a transaction with what turned out to be one of his sockpuppets, and he suggested that we use his 'main' account as a middle man. When I got caught, I lied about being banned in order to cover it up, which was wrong, is something I should not have done, and is something I regret doing.

I also wanted to apologize to anyone who I may have otherwise harmed over the years in any other way (I have never stolen from anyone here, or IRL). I am a very principled person, but sometimes did not get other perspectives, or try to be able to see things from the other person's shoes before starting a topic. I should have done better.

I have always cared about my reputation here. Even when I was someone who was well trusted, I did not like it when people opened fake scam accusations because they were upset at me. My intentions were always good, even if my actions were not.  

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December 25, 2020, 07:50:31 PM
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Quickseller apologizing for his mistakes, now I have seen it all!
I did not like it when people opened fake scam accusations because they were upset at me.
Wasn't you the one who was creating fake accusations (hhampuz something something...)? Never mind, it was rhetorical question, what fake scam accusation are you talking about?
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December 25, 2020, 07:55:55 PM
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Wasn't you the one who was creating fake accusations (hhampuz something something...)? Never mind, it was rhetorical question, what fake scam accusation are you talking about?
Well for one thing, he accused me of being Lauda at one point--and accused Lauda of having a "pill problem" without offering any supporting evidence for either of those claims. 

Neither of those things even compares to the escrow scam he pulled off a few years ago.  I thought the accusations against me and Lauda to be pure entertainment, but if he's apologizing to the escrow victims then I might consider this thread genuine.  But saying what amounts to "sorry to everyone I've ever hurt" without truly confessing exactly what you did wrong is a hollow statement IMO.  Unless QS specifically states that he was in the wrong with those "self-escrow" transactions, I don't see the point of this.

But apology accepted as far as any wrongdoings against me personally.  Aside from the above, I haven't been damaged by QS.

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December 25, 2020, 07:58:00 PM
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Never personally did me wrong so removed my some-what snide and unnecessary negative trust rating from his list.

Takes some balls to apologize publicly and admit wrongdoing. I respect that.


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December 25, 2020, 08:11:17 PM
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Well for one thing, he accused me of being Lauda at one point--and accused Lauda of having a "pill problem" without offering any supporting evidence for either of those claims.
Oh, I remember some of those accusations, I guess he purposely created them just to ruin someone's reputation. IIRC he accused me that I lied that I asked theymos to blacklist me from DT.
Neither of those things even compares to the escrow scam he pulled off a few years ago.  I thought the accusations against me and Lauda to be pure entertainment, but if he's apologizing to the escrow victims then I might consider this thread genuine.  But saying what amounts to "sorry to everyone I've ever hurt" without truly confessing exactly what you did wrong is a hollow statement IMO.  Unless QS specifically states that he was in the wrong with those "self-escrow" transactions, I don't see the point of this.
Well, he said:
I have never stolen from anyone here, or IRL
I guess he meant to say that he didn't take any escrow fee for any of these transactions. QS is this truth?
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December 25, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
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Today is probably the best time for such a post... Although, to be honest, I thought this incident had exhausted itself a long time ago, given that a year ago everyone saw one of your apology posts, (given below). Not to mention the fact that your name has only been nominated once in the "Antihero" category.  And, as one person said... lessons from the past help us all understand that if you make a mistake, it's never too late to correct it (at least try). Good luck and Merry Christmas!

As an update to this thread:

The information I received was from someone who I trusted at the time, but I have seen to bend and stretch the truth. A review of my other private conversations with this person reflects even more egregious examples of this, including examples of while I cannot affirmatively say is a lie, some representations are what I would consider to be dishonest. I am not going to comment on my source, as I previously told this person I would keep his identity secret, although some may guess based on semi recent forum events.

When I opened this thread, I took what this person said at face value and did not ask to see any underlying evidence. The claimed evidence was already shaky. For this I was wrong and I apologize.
Finally! Thank you. I never thought that this day would come.

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December 25, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
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Awesome, it only takes 5 years for Quicksy to realize that lying is bad.

Christmas 2025: Quickseller apologizes for lying about PrimeNumber7 sockpuppeting.

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December 25, 2020, 08:58:32 PM
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Quicksy, I had intended on removing a lot of your negative trust before the new year anyway, even though I don't need to.  There are too many people who distrust your escrow activity (double dipping) but continue to trust others whose escrow activity scammed/lost several magnitudes more than you did.  

I didn't like the way you sent me a generic "don't involve me in your games"  message from PM7, and I still don't believe you can be sincere while you ask for forgiveness on this account, while pretending you did nothing wrong on your other account.

I'm more than willing to "pardon" you as there are much bigger scammers abound, but don't play me us for a fool.  :/

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December 25, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
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what fake scam accusation are you talking about?
Here are two of them:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040812.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991670.0
I am pretty sure there were many more.


the escrow victims then I might consider this thread genuine. 
This thread was intended for anyone who had placed their trust in me in the past. The escrow victims were refunded publicly, and apologized to privately in 2015, and in both cases, there was no hard feelings.
But apology accepted as far as any wrongdoings against me personally. 
Thank you.

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Last edit: December 26, 2020, 12:59:25 AM by Vod
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That was sad Quicksy - blowing over my offer to actually mean your apology.  :/  After last year's annual plea, you and I made progress in private.  I removed some negative trust, but you still would not prove you returned the btc that TF had sent you.   Later when I tagged an action of PrimeNumber7, your attitude changed 180% towards me.

The escrow victims were refunded publicly, and apologized to privately in 2015, and in both cases, there was no hard feelings.

You claimed that in 2015, and when I attempted to verify it, you started a twenty page thread.    A lot of public hard feelings conflicts the "private no hard feelings" claim.   Don't wave your hand like OgNasty and claim you know what everyone feels.

2020 started out well, but >>I feel<< your failure to identify PN7 as your alt shows you have not changed.  I should have followed SM's lead and not given you yet another chance.  




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December 26, 2020, 02:07:58 AM
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Hello and thank you for your PM inviting me to participate in this thread discussion.

I'm at work on a break and won't be home for a few hours. I'm still digesting the contents of your PM and also this thread, but am hoping we can have an honest and frank round table discussion and hopefully move forward in a positive light in 2021.

My first questions are firstly I was wondering how accurate have my alt connections been? Have you used your alts to discredit my investigations, or, me personally through posts in threads, by use of default trust (distrust) or negative trust feedback by those alts against me?

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December 26, 2020, 02:46:31 AM
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I'm at work on a break and won't be home for a few hours. I'm still digesting the contents of your PM and also this thread, but am hoping we can have an honest and frank round table discussion and hopefully move forward in a positive light in 2021.
I hope so too.

My first questions are firstly I was wondering how accurate have my alt connections been?
I have not been following your alt connection thread for some time now. If memory serves me correctly, you would sometimes use faulty logic when making connections.

Have you used your alts to discredit my investigations, or, me personally through posts in threads,
Not that I can recall specifically, however it is possible that I noted what I believed to be a flaw in your logic when making a connection.


by use of default trust (distrust) or negative trust feedback by those alts against me?
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As the actual user who "outed" this "questionable" activity, and also replied to your "oh help me i'm butthurt" post here, I think you maybe are a bit sorry after scamming so many people now that the BTC price is so fkin high. Maybe you finally found a girlfriend your mom likes, who knows LOL, but fuck..., whatevs.... Tongue

You fucked your own rep up by pushing limits over and over with your alt army crusades, not to mention pulling innocent people into your delusional "perceived scam" accusations. Roll Eyes  

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December 26, 2020, 05:03:34 AM
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... flawed logic  ...

I see. (I'm taking that comment with a grain of salt)

A while ago I started reviewing old cases and have now formed other opinions. You may have noticed that my trust feedback for QS just references the escrow incident with any feedback for alts where it is negative where others have identified those alts. Similarly I haven't made any comments on PN7 as no concrete evidence has been put forward (but as Vod said, the attitude did turn 180°).

Many months ago I also locked some/most/all such alt threads and a couple concerning you I think I also removed the entire OP contents.

When you were creating your "pill addiction" and other similar style threads being a little less experienced a user I took it that some people who started such threads were asking for a free kick (to the head) very quickly I realised this was not the case and stopped participating in those threads (so I too apologise for behaviour then).

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Personally, I've never had any problems with QS, and I appreciate his knowledge on technical topics. Most of the drama happened before I was an active member here anyway.
There aren't many users with this much negative feedback who stick around.

I am a very principled person
I believe this. I've also seen someone claim you don't lie, I like that, even though it means evading answering questions once in a while.

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Personally, I've never had any problems with QS, and I appreciate his knowledge on technical topics. Most of the drama happened before I was an active member here anyway.
There aren't many users with this much negative feedback who stick around.

I am a very principled person
I believe this. I've also seen someone claim you don't lie, I like that, even though it means evading answering questions once in a while.
Prior to the escrow crap, he was actually a very good scam buster and good member of the forum. I still believe he can contribute to the community in a positive light, but If I was him I would steer clear of any escrow activity.

I would support changing tags to a neutral(or at least most of them), but 1 member needs to keep a neg there so that new users/old users are able to see his history. I only say this due to the fact that many users don't even look at feedback unless they see the red mark.

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December 26, 2020, 09:17:54 AM
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I would support changing tags to a neutral(or at least most of them), but 1 member needs to keep a neg there so that new users/old users are able to see his history.
Zepher's feedback is there to stay for sure.

One of the problems with negative feedback is that the number of negatives is mainly based on how "high profile" a user is, and not on the actual damage done.

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December 26, 2020, 12:06:03 PM
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Nice...what should we expect next in the end of this 2020 year?
Maybe Vod and Nasty making peace agreement and burying the hatchet?
Nothing is impossible  Cheesy

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Oh come on now, getting all misty-eyed about an apology for something that happened 5 years ago and forgetting all the shit he's done before and since then, mostly to people who committed the heinous crime of disagreeing with him?

It's not like there is a lack of knowledgeable honest individuals on this forum. Quicksy is a sockpuppeting sociopath who can't even feign a convincing apology without blaming someone else.

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December 26, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
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Oh come on now, getting all misty-eyed about an apology
F*ck me, it's Christmas Tongue
I can have one soft day per year, I'll be AI again tomorrow.

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