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January 15, 2021, 02:07:17 AM
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That is unconscionable and indefensible.  Stop it.

That's funny. That's exactly how I feel about your take on the subject. I think you are being intellectually dishonest for continuing to claim otherwise. Even removing the tons of evidence I have provided, you're still left with evidence suggested by hilariousandco about them using the exact same words while writing reports. And then you've also completely removed the aspect of common sense.

I don't care what kind of deal Lauda had with Quickseller to pretend they're not the same person. You should have just let Lauda's words on the subject speak for themselves instead of trying to re-interpret their legacy.

That's my final opinion on the subject.

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January 15, 2021, 03:11:20 AM
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With some necessary context restored to the internal quotation:
You are risking damage to an innocent party if you are wrong about PrimeNumber7, for no reason but a grudge against Quickseller.

That is unconscionable and indefensible.  Stop it.

That's funny. That's exactly how I feel about your take on the subject. I think you are being intellectually dishonest for continuing to claim otherwise. Even removing the tons of evidence I have provided, you're still left with evidence suggested by hilariousandco about them using the exact same words while writing reports. And then you've also completely removed the aspect of common sense.

When my whole point is to stop the off-topic attacks on a person who is not involved in this thread, I will not be drawn into rehashing the details of the PrimeNumber7 accusation by the fantastical mischaracterizations of an overt promoter of LSD use.

I don't care what kind of deal Lauda had with Quickseller to pretend they're not the same person.

Your such accusation against Lauda is false, malicious, and defamatory.  I will tag accordingly.

There was no “deal”, and Lauda did not “pretend” anything.  I have direct knowledge whereof I speak, because I had extensive private discussions with Lauda about both Quickseller and PrimeNumber7 at the pertinent time last January–February.  At the time, she concluded exactly what she said publicly:

I've given this a great deal of thought, considered the possibilities and their related probabilities:

  • Case 1: They are alts, and he's trying to correct his ways - I will not damage his attempt.
  • Case 2: They are not alts - I do not want to damage PN7.

Which case is the correct one, I do not know. I think he is not proved innocent and not proved guilty. I believe this does not require a long explanation, and will not give one publicly either. Therefore, hereby, I retract my rating.

If you indeed aren't alts, I am sorry PN7.

Signed,
Queen of Cats.

I hereby said, for my own part, that I have concluded, to a high probability, that PrimeNumber7 is not Quickseller’s alt.  Because you are a drug-addled liar, you conflated what I said to Quickseller about how Lauda would react to his apology with what I said for my own part about PrimeNumber7.

You should have just let Lauda's words on the subject speak for themselves instead of trying to re-interpret their legacy.

To uphold the honour of Lauda’s legacy, I must note that Lauda was very strongly opposed to drug abuse.  It is what made the “pills” false accusation so funny, in a twisted way; that became a running joke between us, until Quickseller ruined it by apologizing to her.  Thereafter, I had to satisfy myself with poking fun at her witchcraft.  Lauda never did drugs, but she definitely did witchcraft!



Quickseller, I am very sorry for these ugly off-topic flamewars on your thread here.

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January 17, 2021, 05:09:50 AM
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I will tag accordingly.

No. Please. Stop.

Can you do an ELI5 for people who don't have time to read WOTs... what exactly was the alleged "defamation" against the dead cat that made you a high-risk in a trade?
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January 17, 2021, 05:50:30 AM
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Apparently nullius thinks mentioning deals with Quickseller constitutes defamation; for what reason I'm not exactly sure. What's weird is most of the details about what happened are largely public -- obviously the two came to some sort of understanding through forgiveness.

Awesome. I'm particularly intrigued how you managed to damage the no-longer-relevant reputation of a user account that left this forum with such a fanfare... maybe nullius wasn't aware that Lauda is no longer with us. You should apologize and blame Tomatocage, that will make it right.

I don't remember ridiculing that or saying it was bad.

I don't have such qualms. It was cringy AF.
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January 17, 2021, 08:22:14 AM
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And there I thought, that I was the troll.
But it's OK, everyone and their mothers can tell that nullius has owned you both - on more occasions that you'd like to admit.

I hope you girls re-al-ize, and learn to live with that. Kiss

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January 18, 2021, 03:06:14 AM
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To uphold the honour of Lauda’s legacy...

Lol, so chivalrous of you to appoint yourself the custodian of "Lauda's Legacy," and take it upon yourself to determine how it is to be honored.  Good job, you lifeless cunt.  Maybe consider spending that kind of energy finding a female with a pulse rather wasting it on fake internet "pussies?"


I was answering your question specifically how I would feel about the situation. I also understand that others feel differently.

Maybe granting loans is different than trading physical items, which is what I was doing, and there would be less of a legitimate reason to hold collateral for a loan with a hidden alt. The transactions I acted as escrow for myself were transactions in which I had to disclose my IRL identity, or risk being forced to refund my buyer if something went wrong. One of the transactions involved me shipping something internationally, and I had to disclose my IRL identity on the customs form which is attached to the package. The other transaction involved me selling someone bitcoin via Western Union (it might have been a similar service), and if I didn't put my real name on the sending form (the information of which is available to the seller I believe), I would be unable to get a refund from Western Union if for some reason the buyer could not pick up the money.

Self escrow for physical items doesn't seem any different to me, and certainly just as deceptive.  The other party was expecting a neutral, third party to be involved incase there was a dispute that need mediation.  You deceived them into a false sense of security.

As I said above, the reason I did this was because I wanted to protect my IRL identity.

That excuse may have worked at first, but the continuation of all your sockpuppeting seems to suggest there's more to the story.

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Last edit: January 18, 2021, 03:28:05 AM by nullius
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nutildah, you are slippery.  Too bad for you that brains permanently addled by LSD have trouble keeping stories straight:

With “they” referring to Quickseller and PrimeNumber7:
I don't care what kind of deal Lauda had with Quickseller to pretend they're not the same person.
Your such accusation against Lauda is false, malicious, and defamatory.  

Well I heard otherwise from someone you would probably find reputable in the matter but I don't want to disclose my sources so OK, I retract the statement.
Apparently nullius thinks mentioning deals with Quickseller constitutes defamation; for what reason I'm not exactly sure. What's weird is most of the details about what happened are largely public -- obviously the two came to some sort of understanding through forgiveness. I don't remember ridiculing that or saying it was bad.

So, what do you “retract”?  The allegation that Lauda cut a “deal” (impliedly with some exchange of consideration) to “pretend” something that she impliedly knew to be untrue, based on your alleged secret “sources”?  (Perhaps you were told by the same person who told Quickseller that Lauda had a drug addiction?)  —Or the allegation that Lauda and Quickseller publicly “came to some sort of understanding through forgiveness”?  Please clarify, so that I can understand what to make of your “retraction”.  Roll Eyes


fantastical mischaracterizations of an overt promoter of LSD use


You removed my inline hyperlink to what I am talking about, so that you can pretend that I am spouting nonsense.  That is deeply dishonest of you.  Here is the proper quote:

When my whole point is to stop the off-topic attacks on a person who is not involved in this thread, I will not be drawn into rehashing the details of the PrimeNumber7 accusation by the fantastical mischaracterizations of an overt promoter of LSD use.

The subject of drug abuse promoters in DT is one that I have been intending to raise for months, with appropriate tags and a public call for exclusions.  It needs to be done, and it needs to be done right, and I simply have not had the time for such a thread.

Whereas it is funny that hereby in this thread, your position is being supported by someone who has a history of reporting people to the IRS and the FBI—who knows, maybe the DEA, too.  As an anarchist, of course I do not advocate such a thing—#justsaying.  Anyway, lawman Vod, why do you give such credence to crazy rumours fomented primarily by nutildah, a hallucinogenic drug abuser and advocate, and suchmoon, who uses source merits to reward the blatant advocacy of doing drugs?  You are believing conspiracy theories peddled by the forum’s Timothy Leary, who has told me that I am ignorant about LSD and psilocybin because I have never had the “educational” experience of frying my own brain with the stuff (!).

Stereotypical drug-abuser rationalizations.  Hey, Vod, hasn’t every law-and-order type seen these clichés a thousand times?  Roll Eyes
They can turn you into a superstitious nitwit

No more superstitious than somebody who has never experienced psychedelics for themselves but label them as "bad" without fully understanding them.

Psychedelic drugs aren't addictive and can be quite educational if you let them work their magic.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

nullius, all you are doing is highlighting your ignorance of the subject. have a fantastic morning.

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You've never tripped on LSD or mushrooms, you've never been to France, so there's no possible way you could know what its about more than someone who has. All the books in the world - all your personal assessments of friends who have visited France - are no substitute for first-hand, real life experience.

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(Don’t bother deleting anything.  I have been keeping evidence all along.)

Frankly, I cannot believe that anyone trusts the judgment of someone so delusional that he thinks that tripping on LSD is in any way whatsoever analogous to taking a trip to France.  —Or that anyone even wants to talk to such a person.

Anyway, Quickseller and PrimeNumber7, I am very sorry that both of your respective reputations have been damaged by nonsense peddled by some addle-brained scum who actively tries to drag others into his acid-dropper lifestyle (see above quotes), and by his playground-clique pals.  Yes, I saw nutildah’s “evidence” last year; the attempt at linguistic analysis was unscientific bunkum, nothing like what tspacepilot did.  (Unfortunately, not many Reputation regulars have the technical expertise to understand what tspacepilot did, and why it was significant.)  As for what hilarious said, well—he is the one who has been sowing rumours that Lauda will return with an alt.  Yes, I recently compared hilarious alt theories to QAnon; I thought that it was funny.  His uncorroborated statements should be taken with a grain of salt.

Overall, especially when you haven’t actually been accused of doing anything wrong (!), all of this is just another smear campaign.


I hope you realize you've now completely transformed into cryptohunter,

Roll Eyes

I don't care what kind of deal Lauda had with Quickseller to pretend they're not the same person.
Of course he is PN7. Why else would QS and Lauda both suddenly and in tandem become  certain each other was no longer a scammer or the most dangerous scum here right after lauda tagged PN7? They cut a deal.

cryptohunter, are you transforming into nutty nutildah!?  Sad

I am surprised that you would buy into this, CH.  Objectively, the QS/PN7 alt accusation is a case study on how rumours, gossip, and peer pressure amongst suchmoon’s little lunchroom clique can produce groupthink “facts” that everybody just “knows”.

Want to debunk any posts I've just made go ahead and try. Not pulling punches with anyone here now. Debunk evidence that I can present to corroborate my statements or keep quiet.

You know what, CH, I am in the mood to take you up on that.  I won’t debate nutildah, because I don’t like to argue with the self-made crazy of acid-droppers; it is a policy that I have learned by experience, to avoid wasting my time and, frankly, to preserve my own sanity.  But you are more reasonable than nutildah—or at least, you are less unreasonable, relatively speaking.  (Admittedly, that is damning you with faint praise—sorry for comparing you to nutildah!)



There was no “deal”.  I spent days arguing the PrimeNumber7 case with Lauda.  I debated her about it intensively—I debated her publicly, and much moreso in private.  She kept trying to convince me that he was Quickseller, and her tag was justified.  I kept trying to convince her that the case was at best weak as hell, and she should untag him.  I am thus reasonably sure that her reason for untagging him was that I won the debate.

We regularly debated a wide range of topics.  Usually, neither of us could persuade the other; usually otherwise, she prevailed.  The PrimeNumber7 case was one of very few instances in which I ever convinced her of anything; I will take that as an indication of the quality of arguments on both sides.

And I was not only debating Lauda!

Let us step back for a moment, for context.  Quickseller, I don’t like to dig this up; but the following litany of quotes needs to be assembled in one place, so that people can see what really happened.

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I am surprised that Vod is the only one who clearly called out the textbook smear tactic Quickseller here applies—and applies with hamhanded transparency, I might add.  I have highlighted three of Vod’s above posts with merit, because they stated exactly what I had in mind when I read OP—and they are the only answer Quickseller should receive as to his stated questions.

Observe:

Update: After >24 hours from when Lauda first responded to this thread, Lauda has yet to in any way deny, nor disputed he has an addiction to pills, nor has he denied that he abuses illegal drugs.

I am interested for Lauda to more specifically address this. Are you going to explicitly deny? Or is there truth to you having a drug addiction?

[...ad nauseam...]

It seems that Lauda is not interested in denying he is addicted to and/or abusing drugs. Very interesting indeed...

Placing somebody in a position to deny a scandalous accusation (from a mysterious “I was told by” source!) is one of the best-known cheap smear tactics from the Book of Cheap Smear Tactics.

(Next standard twist:  Classic “begging the question”.  “Lauda, when did you stop leaving negative trust tags while in drug-fuelled rages?”)

Get this:  I am also “not interested in denying” that I have a drug addiction, that I just raped and murdered someone, or that I’m a Bcasher, because the accusations are outrageous on their face and there is no evidence whatsoever for them.

Quickseller, give EVIDENCE.  PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Lauda, in the absence of evidence, you are under no obligation whatsoever to deny, to explain why you won’t deny, or to do anything other than ridicule Quickseller as the obscene buffoon he is.

N.b. that early on here, I was so disgusted at one of this forum’s most odious trash threads that I made it excruciatingly clear how deeply I despise drug addicts (previously).  Even should Quickseller continue transparently applying textbook smear tactics (as I do expect) and direct them at me, I could not very well be accused of acting in sympathy to drug addiction.


Does being addicted to cats count as being an addict Huh

Those evidentiary photographs posted upthread by minerjones don’t look so good, Lauda.  Do you deny doing lines of catnip with your kitties while sitting atop a huge pile of Bitcoins and laughing maniacally?  Do you deny it?  Very interesting, you don’t deny it...

CH, how is this for “objective standards”, “being fair to everybody”, and “not having a double standard”:  At a time when I in DT, when I had strong anti-QS biases and an admitted tendency to treat QS alt accusations with a presumption of guilt, I acted against my own biases.  I applied the same standard to PrimeNumber7 as I had applied to my dear friend Lauda.  Compare the above quotation with the following:

Silence is best proof you can get.

Not so.  In the general case, “but so-and-so did not deny it!” is a classic Quickselling fallacy.  Although it may not be fallacious in the face of compelling evidence plus the absence of any possible good-faith motive to ignore a charge, silence qua silence is weak evidence at best, and certainly not the “best proof”.

Topic subject:  @PrimeNumber7 is an alt account of @Quickseller
Post subject:  I am not Quickseller.
Sorry...

I have been told by someone very reputable, and whom I trust that Lauda has a serious pill addiction.
Hearsay.
Surely this should be very easy for Lauda to dispel this by simply denying that he has a pill addiction. However he has failed to do this. Why do you think Lauda would not quickly deny that he is addicted to pills?

Instead, Lauda is wanting to know how much evidence there is against him, and wanting to see the evidence that he has an addiction. All while Lauda's "friend" The Pharmacist is backing him, and preemptively saying that Lauda should be in "DT". What do you think this is an indication of?

On principle, I will not become Quickseller for the purpose of smacking down alleged Quickseller alts.

Silence is not evidence of guilt,

Agreed.  It is zero evidence either way.

Given the timing of events, I reasonably infer that my above-quoted “I am not Quickseller” speech in PrimeNumber7’s defence must have moved Quickseller to a soul-searching moment.  If he is not PN7, then he has first-hand knowledge that he is not PN7; and he thus had first-hand knowledge that an innocent bystander was being smear-attacked by people with an anti-QS grudge, using exactly the same “he did not deny it!” argument that he himself had used against Lauda.  In retrospect, I can see how that must have left him burning with shame and remorse.

Before now, Quickseller was always unmoved when people attacked his Panthers52 alt.  He either ignored it, or counterattacked in epic flamewars.  The above-quoted discussion evidently got to him in a way that nothing in the Panthers52 case ever did.  I thus weigh his reaction (—what I reasonably infer to have been his reaction—) as evidence that he is not PrimeNumber7:  If he had been PN7, the rational reaction would have been to play it cool while I was accidentally defending his selfish interests using the same arguments that I had previously used to attack him.  His reaction was too altruistic, too laden with guilt—exactly how he would feel if PN7 was an innocent bystander.

Evoking his remorse was not my intention—sorry, Quickseller, I didn’t expect that you would be so reasonable, let alone conscionable!  I simply thought that it was the perfect argument to induce some soul-searching by the people attacking PrimeNumber7—sorry, I expected that such characters as suchmoon would be more reasonable (and conscionable) than they turned out to be.  But Quickseller turned out to be the good one.  About 47 hours after I started that line of argument, he suddenly and unexpectedly apologized to Lauda.

I know that Lauda’s reaction to Quickseller’s apology was utter shock, because I was in active discussion with her when Quickseller posted it.  I got her contemporaneous private reaction, before she replied.  She did not see this coming.

As an update to this thread:

The information I received was from someone who I trusted at the time, but I have seen to bend and stretch the truth. A review of my other private conversations with this person reflects even more egregious examples of this, including examples of while I cannot affirmatively say is a lie, some representations are what I would consider to be dishonest. I am not going to comment on my source, as I previously told this person I would keep his identity secret, although some may guess based on semi recent forum events.

When I opened this thread, I took what this person said at face value and did not ask to see any underlying evidence. The claimed evidence was already shaky. For this I was wrong and I apologize.
Finally! Thank you. I never thought that this day would come.

Now I can state for the record: I do not and never had a pill addiction.

Thus after almost two years of keeping silent in the face of a totally baseless false accusation, Lauda finally denied it.

In 2018, I myself had urged her both publicly and privately to keep her silence.  For if people can be made to deny accusations so weak that there is anyway no probable cause to believe the accusation, then it would set a horrible precedent:

  • suchmoon, a friend of a friend told me that you torture cute kittens for sadistic pleasure.  Do you deny it?  WHY DON’T YOU DENY IT!?  Very interesting:  suchmoon does not deny being a sadistic kitten-torturer.

    (Oh, and if you do deny it, then tomorrow, the question will be if you admit or deny that you are a cannibal who eats babies kidnapped by space aliens.  WHY DON’T YOU DENY IT!?  You see how that works.)
  • Quickseller, I saw in a thread somewhere a theory that you are theymos’ alt:

    (That would be fucking nuts if quickseller was an alt of theymos)

    There's an admin who in a PM to me claimed he is an alt of quickseller... after my posts started getting deleted... [...] I can accept one of quicksellers' alts is an admin.

    Quickseller/theymos has never denied this!  WHY DON’T YOU DENY IT!?  Very interesting:  Quickseller does not deny that he is administrator of this forum.
  • In 2018, Quickseller accused me of being Lauda’s alt:

    nullius is lauda. That is very clear. Anyone who does not see this is simply closing their eyes.

    I have never denied it.  WHY DON’T I DENY IT!?  Very interesting...



Apparently nullius thinks mentioning deals with Quickseller constitutes defamation; for what reason I'm not exactly sure. What's weird is most of the details about what happened are largely public -- obviously the two came to some sort of understanding through forgiveness.

Awesome. I'm particularly intrigued how you managed to damage the no-longer-relevant reputation of a user account that left this forum with such a fanfare... maybe nullius wasn't aware that Lauda is no longer with us. You should apologize and blame Tomatocage, that will make it right.

I don't remember ridiculing that or saying it was bad.

I don't have such qualms. It was cringy AF.

Thank you for showing your true face.  Usually, you are more skilled at fooling people...

And there I thought, that I was the troll.
But it's OK, everyone and their mothers can tell that nullius has owned you both - on more occasions that you'd like to admit.

I hope you girls re-al-ize, and learn to live with that. Kiss

...or at least, you think you are.


Edit:  Obviously, this was posted while I was writing—quoted for the record:

To uphold the honour of Lauda’s legacy...

Lol, so chivalrous of you to appoint yourself the custodian of "Lauda's Legacy," and take it upon yourself to determine how it is to be honored.  Good job, you lifeless cunt.  Maybe consider spending that kind of energy finding a female with a pulse rather wasting it on fake internet "pussies?"

Reprehensible.  Beneath reply, except that I must laugh at the Internet wannabe Sherlock Holmes types who find conspiratorial connections everywhere—and yet, who fail to notice that, among other things, Lauda took her final avatar and personal text from things that I made for her.  So much for your pathetic attempt to distance me from her legacy. 😼

Good job, you lifeless cunt.  Maybe consider spending that kind of energy finding a female with a pulse rather wasting it on fake internet "pussies?"
Nullius is of course TPOTO.
Trying to impress and win over anything that could be a female here. [...]
Rolling around in your Basement with a semi inflated blow up Hermaphrodite doll with lauda scribbled on its forehead I guess does enable your old bones to get into the more advanced positions.
2. Later on Nullius starts saying some very worrying and creepy things publicly.

A.He cant stop wondering if lauda is really female. Why?
B. He wants to cybersex lauda regardless of gender.
[...] your wank fantasy lauda [...]
So sure you want some pussy and are willing to apply undeniable double standards to punish others.

That makes you a cunt. Undeniably so.

CH, why are you transforming into DireWolfM14?  Sad

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Everyone knows that I dislike the willing scam facilitator for pay loser ( prior stake nem holder and dash adopter,  now peasant begging for 0.02btc loans and spamming for dust) trust abuser nutildah.

I think nullius is a genuinely better person than most of the others here.  Clearly they love lauda and admired them strongly.
I will hold no animosity to his actions connected to anything lauda related here. Even though I view them as incorrect on each and every point. Including the scamming and deliberate plagiarism.

I note also nullius is not greedy and the sole motivator appears to be loyalty and admiration. I accept lauda could show a side that people could appreciate.

I have also previously considered QS as okay. I feel they were bullied over a small issue for far too long and far too harshly comparitively. Certainly what they did is nowhere near as bad as .. willing scam facilitating for a price or auction scamming by deception with clear intentionion to push bidding above its natural organic level. But they were DT and praised whilst QS was a pariah? Both could be scamming but

I will say that there can never exist incontrovertible proof of control of 2 accounts even with server side data. With all of these deep fakes even the moronbozo aka zorrobeck ? Zorroback?/suchmoons standard of " video evidence " is not sufficient.

However, there can be observsble and reasonable connections pointed out.

I must confess that due to becoming rich beyond the confines of needing to be at all careful with all manner of personal treats ,  there are  limitless distractions that prevent focus on bct. So the time spent here will naturally be reduced. Sad news I know.  Also the more time spent absent,  the more the mind seeks to reduce the stain that DT1 via the brilliant and ingenious system theymos sharted over the once great forum. The brown misty haze covers the once clear details one was able to clearly focus upon and pull out at will.

I currently believe that quickseller and lauda et al ( the lauda gang aka tman, owl etc) cut a deal..
Suddenly mutually set aside years of being convinced each other were among the most dangerous scammers here on bct due to uncovering independently verifiable truths or evidence that was hidden from them up until that exact moment.
To redacting chunks of text, changing thread titles and even removing URLs for trust feedback which in turn was converted from red to neutral. Basically an instant, mutual and clear 180 from both sides at the same time right after the lauda tagging PN7 event?

Two sides, both convinced the other is a serious scamming threat to the forum for years do not stumble upon evidence that nullified those beliefs at the same time. A deal was cut in my opinion. What other sensible explanation is there?

This suddenly took place after PN7 got a tag from lauda. The trigger.

This is not taking into account any linguistic analysis since. However, unless you are deliberately intending to give the impression the accounts are connected then those similarities are notable. Who can speculate on the motivations of anonymous accounts

The fact that when PN7 started criticising lauda , lauda openly threatened them with " you are starting to sound like QS again" from which PN7 started grovelling around saying " oh I don't mean you lauda" is again notable and telling.

This is not agreeing with anyone here. I certainly would detest to be on any side with nutildah or suchmoon et al

I don't care about any linguistic correlation. That was not the basis and I'm not sure I even knew about that before I started to notice events that said to me a deal had been struck between qs/pn7 and lauda et al.

This is not something I'm set in stone over, the timeline of events I've mentioned could be debunked as sloppy investigative work but I've not had the time or enough inclination to really bother thrashing it out.  I am reasonably confident the objective observer would take my view but as ever I'm open to transparent public debate and investigation and would of course remain open minded.

I would expect most people with any history here would trust QS with their trades and money more than most of DT1 due to many factors and one of which is they are known in RL.
I have to say the constant apologies and overtures to DT1 are nauseating and repulsive.
They serve no real purpose. Other than to reveal what a snivelling pathetic weasel you are. I have no idea why you are still grovelling about debasing yourself further for merely the chance to sig spam for dust.

Suchmoon is the key here for QS. The only thing about suchmoon you can enjoy other than her enormous bust is that it doesn't do being slimy and making up. It actually derives pleasure from being caustic and doesnt appreciate being doxed. It also hates sneaky worms saying anything to weasel back into favour with her group, she knows full well QS hates them with a passion. Of course suchmoon is thoroughly detestable and easily defeated in open debate from which it runs away from.

I seek only the truth. I don't think you can trust anyone here on this thread (excluding myself). Each are corrupted by different driving forces that prevent them being anywhere near objective. Some forces are less distasteful than others. Some are hardwired in as a need, others deliberate and calculated greed or narcissism. The reader should trust only my words and go therefore and research for themselves the events I have described.

Someone who wanted to could detail a full timeline of events and analyse them thoroughly and transparently. That would be more revealing.

Anyway even if QuickSellout7 is thing I guess it does not take away entirely from his apology. I find it nauseating, some may appreciate it.
I'm not sure what the motivation is. I suspect a gradual creeping back into favour with those he considers have insurmountable control and power here, others may say it stems from real regret and remorse.









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January 19, 2021, 05:11:48 PM
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Reprehensible.

Pathetic.

I must laugh at the Internet wannabe Sherlock Holmes types who find conspiratorial connections everywhere

Please elaborate on the "conspiratorial connections" alluded to in my post.  Are you implying that I'm implying you are Lauda?  Don't flatter yourself, I know you aren't that clever.

fail to notice that, among other things, Lauda took her final avatar and personal text from things that I made for her.  So much for your pathetic attempt to distance me from her legacy.

You made an avatar for her?  ROFLMAO, okay fine, have it your way.  I hereby declare that Lauda and nullius are forever intertwined.  He made her an avatar, ffs!  Cheesy Cheesy

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I was answering your question specifically how I would feel about the situation. I also understand that others feel differently.

Maybe granting loans is different than trading physical items, which is what I was doing, and there would be less of a legitimate reason to hold collateral for a loan with a hidden alt. The transactions I acted as escrow for myself were transactions in which I had to disclose my IRL identity, or risk being forced to refund my buyer if something went wrong. One of the transactions involved me shipping something internationally, and I had to disclose my IRL identity on the customs form which is attached to the package. The other transaction involved me selling someone bitcoin via Western Union (it might have been a similar service), and if I didn't put my real name on the sending form (the information of which is available to the seller I believe), I would be unable to get a refund from Western Union if for some reason the buyer could not pick up the money.

Self escrow for physical items doesn't seem any different to me, and certainly just as deceptive.  The other party was expecting a neutral, third party to be involved incase there was a dispute that need mediation.  You deceived them into a false sense of security.
Both parties in question actually said at the time that they would have sent first to me if they had known they were dealing with QS.

As I said above, the reason I did this was because I wanted to protect my IRL identity.

That excuse may have worked at first, but the continuation of all your sockpuppeting seems to suggest there's more to the story.
The below definition of a "sockpuppet" from urban dictionary is very close to how I would describe "sockpuppeting:
A false identity adopted by trolls and other malcontents to support their own postings.
I have not used any alt account to support my own point of view, or my side in a dispute after the self escrow incident.

I don't care what kind of deal Lauda had with Quickseller to pretend they're not the same person.
There was no deal with Lauda. I simply wanted to stop the fighting and bickering with Lauda (and other forum members), and wanted to move on. My presumption is that Lauda felt the same way.
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As I said above, the reason I did this was because I wanted to protect my IRL identity.
That excuse may have worked at first, but the continuation of all your sockpuppeting seems to suggest there's more to the story.
The below definition of a "sockpuppet" from urban dictionary is very close to how I would describe "sockpuppeting:
A false identity adopted by trolls and other malcontents to support their own postings.
I have not used any alt account to support my own point of view, or my side in a dispute after the self escrow incident.

The urban dictionary's definition of sockpuppeting most likely doesn't account for the monetary value of Bitcointalk.org accounts.  So, like I said: there's more to the story.  To be blunt; my suspicion is that you were using this method to develop accounts, probably to sell at a later date.  

Did you also use them to hide your identity?  Probably.  Do I believe that was the only reason?  No.  Sorry, just being honest.  That's not to say that my mind could not be changed, or that my disbelief would prevent me from forgiving* you.

*I have never been affected by your shenanigans, so I use the word "forgive" in a general sense.

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January 24, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
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The below definition of a "sockpuppet" from urban dictionary is very close to how I would describe "sockpuppeting:
A false identity adopted by trolls and other malcontents to support their own postings.
I have not used any alt account to support my own point of view, or my side in a dispute after the self escrow incident.

And OgNasty has never lost anyone's money.   Wink
Quickseller (your alt) and I were on good terms.
PrimeNumber7 (your alt) disagreed with something I wrote about Quickseller (your alt).
Quickseller (your alt) now agrees with PrimeNumber7 (your alt) not to be on good terms with me.

So I agree that you use your alts interchangeably to keep both relevant.  

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January 24, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
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Quicksy has most definitely used multiple (not owned up) accounts to post in the same thread so that's a lie up there. I'm sure he would like to reduce the sockpuppeting definition to explicitly saying "I support Quickseller's opinion" with the PrimeNumber7 account but that's bullshit like most of his pseudo lawyering. If you use multiple accounts to peddle some idea or opinion making others think that it's two different users supporting it - that's sockpuppeting by any sane definition.
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February 06, 2021, 10:31:35 PM
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The urban dictionary's definition of sockpuppeting most likely doesn't account for the monetary value of Bitcointalk.org accounts.  So, like I said: there's more to the story.  To be blunt; my suspicion is that you were using this method to develop accounts, probably to sell at a later date. 
Panthers52 was associated with my IRL identity. If I had sold that account and the buyer did bad things with it, such as scam someone, my IRL identity could have been associated with those bad things.
When I was farming accounts, I was not farming trust in any way, and was not attempting to increase the trust ratings of any of my accounts that were for sale.

I used poor judgement that was influenced by someone who was also doing things he shouldn't be doing, but whom I trusted. This is a mistake that I am not going to repeat, and I am not involved in any business in which I would even have the opportunity to repeat a similar mistake.
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