Trust Violation Apology

[babo]

I wanted to apologize to anyone whose trust I may have broken over the years, including but not limited to one particular incident. I got the idea from another forum member who was in very good standing, and was well trusted at the time throughout the community -- I entered into a transaction with what turned out to be one of his sockpuppets, and he suggested that we use his 'main' account as a middle man. When I got caught, I lied about being banned in order to cover it up, which was wrong, is something I should not have done, and is something I regret doing.

I also wanted to apologize to anyone who I may have otherwise harmed over the years in any other way (I have never stolen from anyone here, or IRL). I am a very principled person, but sometimes did not get other perspectives, or try to be able to see things from the other person's shoes before starting a topic. I should have done better.

I have always cared about my reputation here. Even when I was someone who was well trusted, I did not like it when people opened fake scam accusations because they were upset at me. My intentions were always good, even if my actions were not.  

Thank you.

world end is tomorrow.. i know
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we all make mistakes, including me
admitting they were wrong is an act of enormous courage .. only really strong men admit they were wrong
I must say you surprised me, I didn't expect this
ad maiora

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[suchmoon]

Oh come on now, getting all misty-eyed about an apology

F*ck me, it's Christmas
I can have one soft day per year, I'll be AI again tomorrow.

It's ok. You can apologize for your transgressions in 2025

[Vod]

Nice...what should we expect next in the end of this 2020 year?
Maybe Vod and Nasty making peace agreement and burying the hatchet?
Nothing is impossible 

Trump can still land humanity on Mars by the end of his first term too.     Our "feud" will not extend past 2021 - there was too much work to give the community the holiday gift it deserved this year.  :/

Tis the season to socially engineer...

[Laudanum]

I wanted to apologize to anyone whose trust I may have broken over the years, including but not limited to one particular incident. I got the idea from another forum member who was in very good standing, and was well trusted at the time throughout the community -- I entered into a transaction with what turned out to be one of his sockpuppets, and he suggested that we use his 'main' account as a middle man. When I got caught, I lied about being banned in order to cover it up, which was wrong, is something I should not have done, and is something I regret doing.

I also wanted to apologize to anyone who I may have otherwise harmed over the years in any other way (I have never stolen from anyone here, or IRL). I am a very principled person, but sometimes did not get other perspectives, or try to be able to see things from the other person's shoes before starting a topic. I should have done better.

I have always cared about my reputation here. Even when I was someone who was well trusted, I did not like it when people opened fake scam accusations because they were upset at me. My intentions were always good, even if my actions were not.  

Thank you.

This is not the output of the original QS.
Wonder how much he got for this one.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is not the output of the original QS.
Wonder how much he got for this one.

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?  Who are you really, anyway?  You don't have to answer either question, but I'd be more interested in the first one if you care to elaborate on it.

Our "feud" will not extend past 2021

I read this as the feud being active throughout 2021.  Is that what you meant?  The rest of your post was quite cryptic to me as well, but perhaps I'm just ignorant of some things which probably involve OgNasty.  Cryptography is nice, especially on this forum, but people don't seem to be saying what they mean in plain language in this thread.  Too much spiked egg nog?

[suchmoon]

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?  Who are you really, anyway?  You don't have to answer either question, but I'd be more interested in the first one if you care to elaborate on it.

That's CH. His "suggestions" are worthless.

[Quickseller]

... flawed logic  ...

I see. (I'm taking that comment with a grain of salt)

As I mentioned, I have not been following your alt threads for quite some time, and my comment is based on information that is over a year old (probably older).

Many months ago I also locked some/most/all such alt threads and a couple concerning you I think I also removed the entire OP contents.

When you were creating your "pill addiction" and other similar style threads being a little less experienced a user I took it that some people who started such threads were asking for a free kick (to the head) very quickly I realised this was not the case and stopped participating in those threads (so I too apologise for behaviour then).

Thank you.

Prior to the escrow crap, he was actually a very good scam buster and good member of the forum. I still believe he can contribute to the community in a positive light, but If I was him I would steer clear of any escrow activity.

I have no interest or intention of offering escrow services in the future. IIRC, several months after all this started, I was asked to act as escrow by someone that was what I assume was a scam attempt, and I turned down the offer. I reviewed by escrow thread and it looks like I acted as escrow in 2017 for a $5 trade. My escrow thread has reflected "closed" since March 2019, and I had not bumped since long before that.

edit: I also generally stay out of forum related drama, except in cases where it is very clear that one side is wrong. I may try to elicit information/facts for clarity/additional insight while staying neutral. My intentions are to continue doing the same

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I would support changing tags to a neutral(or at least most of them), but 1 member needs to keep a neg there so that new users/old users are able to see his history. I only say this due to the fact that many users don't even look at feedback unless they see the red mark.

As I mentioned, I do care about my reputation here. My actions were wrong and they wont happen again.

happened 5 years ago

This is long overdue.

we all make mistakes, including me
admitting they were wrong is an act of enormous courage .. only really strong men admit they were wrong
I must say you surprised me, I didn't expect this
ad maiora

Thank you.

Maybe Vod and Nasty making peace agreement and burying the hatchet?

Vod was someone who I considered a friend in 2014/5. My interactions with him since then makes me believe he will never accept my apology, which makes me sad. My observations of his interactions with OgNasty makes me believe that he has difficulty letting things go. I would prefer to put all this behind me and move on.

This is not the output of the original QS.
Wonder how much he got for this one.

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?  Who are you really, anyway?  You don't have to answer either question, but I'd be more interested in the first one if you care to elaborate on it.

No, my account is not sold (that is what he was implying).

I reviewed some of his recent posts, and he mentioned Rmcdermott927 leaving several times. I would be surprised if Laudanum is Rmcdermott927 though. He reminds me of CH, as he discusses a lot of the same things that CH talked about, but the posting style is at least somewhat different.

Personally, I've never had any problems with QS, and I appreciate his knowledge on technical topics.

Thank you.

There aren't many users with this much negative feedback who stick around.

I do care about this forum and community. When all this started, I had thought some of the negative feedback would have gotten removed over time, as was common for things of this nature. Everyone here knows me as QS and don't really like the idea of being known as something else.

I am a very principled person

I believe this. I've also seen someone claim you don't lie, I like that, even though it means evading answering questions once in a while.

I lied in 2015 about being banned. I do not like to lie, and very rarely do so, including IRL. Not answering a question does not mean that answering a question truthfully would reflect negatively on me. All it means is that the question is not something I want to answer.

[Vod]

I read this as the feud being active throughout 2021.  Is that what you meant?  The rest of your post was quite cryptic to me as well, but perhaps I'm just ignorant of some things which probably involve OgNasty.  Cryptography is nice, especially on this forum, but people don't seem to be saying what they mean in plain language in this thread.  Too much spiked egg nog?

How much is too much spiked egg nog?    If I take Lactaid I can handle one, but I have the tolerance for alcohol of a 12 year old.

I always try to type exactly what I mean, unless I am parotting some idiot to show them how they have twisted words.

Early in the new year I should finish my blockchain worm, and provide the proof anyone needs to solve frauds on the blockchain.  (It depends on LoyceV too) Plus my club opens next month, so I won't be around to argue with that idiot.  This community will see that justice is possible if you are determined and stay mature.

Tis the season to socially engineer... - people take advantage of holiday cheer to make you do something you normally wouldn't.  

Vod was someone who I considered a friend in 2014/5. My interactions with him since then makes me believe he will never accept my apology, which makes me sad. My observations of his interactions with OgNasty makes me believe that he has difficulty letting things go. I would prefer to put all this behind me and move on.

The first step is the hardest one.  Admit you are PN7 and show us you have stopped being dishonest.  Or ignore and show you don't mean what you write.  I'll prove to you I can let minor things go, but OGNasty has lost thousands of coins, and is trying to bury it and delete evidence.  

[Laudanum]

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?  Who are you really, anyway?  You don't have to answer either question, but I'd be more interested in the first one if you care to elaborate on it.

That's CH. His "suggestions" are worthless.

Everyone is ch according to suchmoon because suchmoon is obsessed with the person that humiliated and destroyed her in every single conflict they had. Fat spaz.

But back on topic to QS. He isn't a big time  scammer as such but a cowardly greedy fucking weasel.
Suchmoon keeps on accusing QS of being primenumber7 but has no balls to copy the same red tags to PN7. So shut up fatty. Stop your whining or do something.

Of course he is PN7. Why else would QS and Lauda both suddenly and in tandem become  certain each other was no longer a scammer or the most dangerous scum here right after lauda tagged PN7? They cut a deal.

Suddenly tman owl and lauda ( the extortion gang) all removing all of their red tags from QS, then QS removing all his tags and redacting his extortion thread and even the ref link from his feedback (now neutral). Just so PN7 can be tag free and have a sig hes been begging for for months. All triggered by PN7 getting a tag from lauda.

They broke him down and ass fucked him publically. All that weaseling around for merit and begging to be on a sig campaign for months and months just smashed by one red tag from lauda? Broke his greedy little mind right there.

I like how lauda told PN7 he started to sound like QS again if he criticized lauda in anyway after that and PN7 starts kissing ass ....oh I wasn't being nasty about you lauda. Lol

It is pathetic to become someone's bitch for a sig. Especially someone you've maintained is a scammer and dangerous for years.
I dont give much more than one fuck about some self escrow where nobody lost any money at all, not compared to allowing yourself to become a  scammers bitch and engaging in red tag removal trading for some shit sig btc dust.  

Theymos must be dumb as a bag of rocks if he didnt see what happened there.
Then again he has soft spot for scum like lauda, qs , suchmoron, tman, probably even likes nutildah and lfc bitcoin. Be very sad to see them leave I'm sure whilst attacking honest members.

Want to debunk any posts I've just made go ahead and try. Not pulling punches with anyone here now. Debunk evidence that I can present to corroborate my statements or keep quiet.

Btw merry xmas you pathetic losers. I'm shopping for islands whilst you dregs beg for each others approval and forgiveness for being a bunch of low level scamming losers scrabbling around for scraps and stepping on each others toes for the last 8 years ho ho ho

You lied you were banned? Who gives a fuck? Supporting scammers and removing legitimate warnings placing honest members in danger is far more disgusting. Just for some btc dust.

Previously QS appeared to be useful and even reasonably reliable both in logic and reason. Which he may be capable of at a level surpassing most current DT morons. That is not the point though. For money this weasel will do or say anything.
Forgiveness is possible but to endanger others deliberately by removing warnings of financially motivated wrongdoing or the willingness to work with others that are scammers for your own gain. Only DT1 members are likely to go along with that, since they are cut from the same cloth.

Being forgiven by DT usually means you're dirty as fuck but you're seen as either useful or too powerful and are accepted to share their pillage of this once great forum.  You may worm tongue them into believing you fit with the former.

I had previously not minded QS but now he's almost as detestable as the majority of DT1.
Weak greedy and sneaky.

Fuck your grovelling pathetic tales of being sorry.

Either a drunk QS who's style is off.
Not Qs
Or QS driven by extra greed of spiralling btc dust sigs wants to spam from both accounts asap.

He cant admit he's PN7 because he sold his ass to lauda to save the PN7 account and suchmoon would have to copy her red tags to PN7 if it is proven it's the same person. Which clearly it is but impossible for prove.

This will be my last word of Primesellout7 and he should be grateful I chimed  in.  Now DT1 are more likely to accept you back. You have all the credentials if you ask me.  Unless I chose to say more.

[hacker1001101001]

2021 looks like a bigger surprise than 2020 ! ( ohh, it's already too much of an excitement )

Anyways, have a great next year QS.

[Timelord2067]

QS is either ...

One possibility you hadn't considered...

QS has been asked/told to tidy any loose ends before their UID permanently falls silent.


I have a working theory certain users have been asked to clear out their desks, or, choose just one alt to go forward with.

TMAN ...LAUDA  and a handful of other profiles (I'll let people speculate endlessly which ones they are) and that it's QS' turn to logout for the last time.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I never had any problem with Quickseller. Au contraire! I noticed he has a high expertise in Blockchain analysis, as can be seen here, for example.

Observing his expertise in the field, I contacted him once to help me with the investigation about paraipan and the missing 250 BTC and he helped me a lot, as it can be seen from the linked post.

No matter his earlier conflicts here, if the man says he is sorry, it should be taken into consideration... He is trying to make things right and this should be appreciated. As many of you know, theymos also recommended at some point in the past to try to be merciful and try to forget if someone was wrong in the past, if that person truly regrets. I really believe that Quickseller is honest here.

[marlboroza]

The first step is the hardest one.  Admit you are PN7 and show us you have stopped being dishonest.

He doesn't lie but he doesn't want to tell us about account Primenumber7 either. Cmon quacksy, it is not that hard, there are only 2 possibilities:

"PM7 is my alt account"
"PM7 isn't my alt account".

Pick one.

[suchmoon]

No matter his earlier conflicts here, if the man says he is sorry, it should be taken into consideration... He is trying to make things right and this should be appreciated. As many of you know, theymos also recommended at some point in the past to try to be merciful and try to forget if someone was wrong in the past, if that person truly regrets. I really believe that Quickseller is honest here.

Honest about what? He's been lying and sockpuppeting for years and now says he's sorry about one episode years ago, which - according to some posters even in this thread - doesn't matter anymore, happened before their time, etc. If anything, the apology is as manipulative as ever since it sounds like an attempt to imply that Quicksy hasn't lied and sockpuppeted beyond that one episode but he obviously has.

[Laudanum]

No matter his earlier conflicts here, if the man says he is sorry, it should be taken into consideration... He is trying to make things right and this should be appreciated. As many of you know, theymos also recommended at some point in the past to try to be merciful and try to forget if someone was wrong in the past, if that person truly regrets. I really believe that Quickseller is honest here.

Honest about what? He's been lying and sockpuppeting for years and now says he's sorry about one episode years ago, which - according to some posters even in this thread - doesn't matter anymore, happened before their time, etc. If anything, the apology is as manipulative as ever since it sounds like an attempt to imply that Quicksy hasn't lied and sockpuppeted beyond that one episode but he obviously has.

I chose more. 

Well, that may be true. However I still dont view QS as dangerous as members you've blocked warnings on before and included in DT.

1. People know who he is
2. He's never actually caused people to lose money ( that I know of)
3. Never protected or pumped a scam ( that I know of)
4. Never abused the trust system that I know of
Actually no he removed legit warnings and traded red tag removals.
5. Has occasionally helped people apparently selflessly



Most in DT can not say those things about themselves.

I don't at all like QS now that he got in bed with scammers and allowed himself to be punked by them. Weak and pathetic.

Lets keep this in perspective though he hasn't directly harmed anyone here. Well apart from removing legit warnings but that was under duress

Most DT1 = pure scum.
QS/ PN7 = WEAK and greedy.

Should all congregate into one mass cesspool of DT1.
Hurry up and put him on your includes and remove the red tags.

Suchmoon has a personal gripe for being doxxed.
She is right what she says but then protects and supports people that are worse when it suits her.
Stop whining or put your money where your mouth is.

You're not bad at walking between the rain drops pulling the strings on DT1 but one day I feel a meteor is coming to splat that fat ass.
Meteoricly speaking of course.

I would love to see PN7 slapped red and taken off sigs.
Serve him right dirty little back stabber.
Either that or get them both on DT1. Keep the turds in the same bowl.

I would trust him to escrow more than some on DT1. Even if I was trading with him at the same time lol

This apology though lol suchmoon is right.... it's a joke and concerning a very minor issue.  
Apologise for being punked by lauda and crew and say your principles wont be shelved when next you're bullied by DT1.
Then the real members here that have achieved something can give some respect.
Not a bunch of newbie greedy self serving scum who only count to themselves.

This forum will be closely scrutinised in the future. Better to leave a legacy to be proud of then some temporary enrichment.
I have been greedy before and it took a long time to feel full redemption.
I have been weak before but never again.
Decide what is right and proper and never back down. Certainly not for sig dust.

I still say this is not a strong match for QS posting style. I feel its sold.

[Vod]

I never had any problem with Quickseller. ...  I really believe that Quickseller is honest here.

We'll see if he is honest, or just pretending.

Quickseller - is PrimeNumber7 your alt?

If he doesn't answer directly, then you should rethink what you consider honesty is.

[Quickseller]

I removed some negative trust, but you still would not prove you returned the btc that TF had sent you. 

You sent me an unsolicited PM asking me to admit that I didn't return the btc from TF, implying that if I admitted to this, you would remove my negative trust. When I refused, you started playing games.

I am considering removing this negative trust, since 20BTC wasn't worth much back then.

Took 20 bitcoin from another user to do a job, but did not do the job and refuses to return coins. He does not dispute this, and is just waiting for everyone to forget....

I just wanted to confirm that you never sent those coins back, and probably used them for expenses.  Nothing wrong with that; want to clear things up as I move forward.

[Vod]

You sent me an unsolicited PM asking me to admit that I didn't return the btc from TF, implying that if I admitted to this, you would remove my negative trust. When I refused, you started playing games.

That doesn't sound like me - more lies make this apology worthless, and hurts your PrimeNumber7 account.  

By "unsolicited" do you mean in the spirit of #2020peace that was going around?

By "games" do you mean asking for proof you sent the coins back?  Proof is not a game.

[marlboroza]

^ Vod, please, one question per post, if you ask more questions QS will forget to answer that one about PrimeNumber7.

Oh, wait, he already forgot.

[Vod]

^ Vod, please, one question per post, if you ask more questions QS will forget to answer that one about PrimeNumber7.

If that wasn't his account, he would say so in an instant.  Thinking if he doesn't admit it, we won't associate them together.  :/

Quickseller is PrimeNumber7.