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January 15, 2021, 11:32:24 PM
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The new strain of Corona Virus is slowly spreading and starting to reach different countries. If this spread is not contained at the early stage, we will go back where we started to, another lockdown might happen to secure tat the virus doesn't spread as bad how the firdt wave of Covid did.
It is just not one new strain. There are multiple strains being reported from all around the world, and many of them are highly contagious. It was expected, as more than 90 million people are infected till date and the viruses are known to mutate rapidly. However, the good news is that none of the strains seems to be resistant to the vaccines. So the current bunch of vaccines should be able to contain them.
In a loose retelling, you can say that if two bullets out of your hundred barrels do not hit the target, you will still have 98 barrels to hit the target. So far, the principles and mechanisms of coronavirus infection have not changed much recently, that is, it is all the same COVID 19, so it is too early to sound the alarm. By the way, it is the constant mutations of the flu virus that do not allow us to develop permanent immunity to humanity and the flu marches around the planet every year. Undoubtedly, something similar awaits us with COVID 19 and let's hope that in the coming years the mortality rate will be much lower.
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January 16, 2021, 03:15:07 AM
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In a loose retelling, you can say that if two bullets out of your hundred barrels do not hit the target, you will still have 98 barrels to hit the target. So far, the principles and mechanisms of coronavirus infection have not changed much recently, that is, it is all the same COVID 19, so it is too early to sound the alarm. By the way, it is the constant mutations of the flu virus that do not allow us to develop permanent immunity to humanity and the flu marches around the planet every year. Undoubtedly, something similar awaits us with COVID 19 and let's hope that in the coming years the mortality rate will be much lower.

The challenge is to complete the vaccination before a mutation occurs with the Coronavirus, which makes it immune to the current COVID 19 vaccines. You can expect mutations quite soon, as almost 100 million people have been infected till date. The greater the spread, greater will be the risk of mutations. The vaccine manufacturers should target to complete inoculation by the end of this year.

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January 16, 2021, 09:30:27 AM
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It is just not one new strain. There are multiple strains being reported from all around the world, and many of them are highly contagious. It was expected, as more than 90 million people are infected till date and the viruses are known to mutate rapidly. However, the good news is that none of the strains seems to be resistant to the vaccines. So the current bunch of vaccines should be able to contain them.
The first part of your statement scared me. I mean, I'm not aware of that until I have read your post. It's actually even more frightening to go outside with the new strain. The first new case of the strain happened in our country but fortunately, the close contacts were tested negative for it and the person is already isolated. Hopefully, no other case with the new strain will rise up.

Anyway, the last part of your statement gave me relief. Let's hope that the vaccine can really contain it so it won't affect more people and add up to the increasing number of infected. Let's still be careful, though.

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January 16, 2021, 10:12:39 AM
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Youre not kidding when you say how difficult this now 2nd Lockdown for Covid 19 is. And to think we might have a 3rd Lockdown if things dont get better.
But this is something we were all warned from our governments that we should expect it to be like this and to not be surprised when were forced to remain in our homes.  
Many businesses that I would go to when we were in Stage 1 are now closed making it more difficult to find items needed during our 2nd Lockdown.

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January 16, 2021, 12:09:24 PM
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Youre not kidding when you say how difficult this now 2nd Lockdown for Covid 19 is. And to think we might have a 3rd Lockdown if things dont get better.
But this is something we were all warned from our governments that we should expect it to be like this and to not be surprised when were forced to remain in our homes.  
Many businesses that I would go to when we were in Stage 1 are now closed making it more difficult to find items needed during our 2nd Lockdown.
Will have more than tenth lock down I think because almost country every day always get more positive covid 19, more than one year we keep fighting with covid 19 and still not have chance this virus gone and keep make us always busy how take care and keep stay at home, one month on this year still not have any way will covid 19 gone or keep existing to make us always worry with pandemic. How long lock down happen to our country and how many people will pass away again?

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January 16, 2021, 05:09:38 PM
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Yes, it is. The second lockdown will be necessary to prevent many people gets infected from the new variant of Covid-19 which already spreads to some countries. While the vaccine is not yet distributed to many hospitals and not many people get cured by the vaccine, a new virus is already attacked England, and some country prohibits for people who come from England to enter to their country. I guess the attack of the Covid-19 will continue in the next year, and with the new virus comes out, we really need to extra careful in the public area.
Why is it necessary? If you are afraid of Covid, then stay at home. If I am a young, very healthy person living isolated, alone, then what's wrong with me? Why shouldn't I work? Especially if I protect all the recommendations + always protect the social distance?

When the government tells you that quarantine and restrictions are needed to stop the spread of Covid, it means that they tell you: You are dumbass stupid who is so silly that I have to push him by law.

In reality, this lockdown will be painful for us but not for them. Show me any politician who suffers from financial loses because of covid, they get a salary like before and make tons of money in vaccine orders, PCR tests, etc.

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January 17, 2021, 12:51:15 PM
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Why is it necessary? If you are afraid of Covid, then stay at home. If I am a young, very healthy person living isolated, alone, then what's wrong with me? Why shouldn't I work? Especially if I protect all the recommendations + always protect the social distance?

When the government tells you that quarantine and restrictions are needed to stop the spread of Covid, it means that they tell you: You are dumbass stupid who is so silly that I have to push him by law.

In reality, this lockdown will be painful for us but not for them. Show me any politician who suffers from financial loses because of covid, they get a salary like before and make tons of money in vaccine orders, PCR tests, etc.

I understand your concerns, regarding the loss of income. You are not alone. Although I am lucky to receive the full salary during the lockdown period, I know about a lot of my friends who are struggling to make their ends meet. But the choices we have are limited. Daily infections and deaths are at all time high, and if the governments think that another round of lockdown is necessary, then we need to cooperate with them.
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January 17, 2021, 08:32:43 PM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
I agree that it will take years to see the same levels in the economy that we had before the pandemic and it will probably take years as well to vaccinate everyone, but at the same time I think that at least in this topic governments are doing it correctly, we need to vaccinate the people that are the most vulnerable to the virus and those people are the healthcare professionals and older people, once those two groups are protected from the virus I think we're going to see a very important decrease in the number of deaths during this pandemic.
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January 17, 2021, 08:59:28 PM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
I agree that it will take years to see the same levels in the economy that we had before the pandemic and it will probably take years as well to vaccinate everyone, but at the same time I think that at least in this topic governments are doing it correctly, we need to vaccinate the people that are the most vulnerable to the virus and those people are the healthcare professionals and older people, once those two groups are protected from the virus I think we're going to see a very important decrease in the number of deaths during this pandemic.
But the question is, would those vaccines hadnt any side effects? We had seen some incidents that do talk about dying on to those who had been vaccinated.

Here are the news;

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/covid-19-vaccination-23-elderly-people-dead-after-pfizer-shot-in-norway/story/428119.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-nursing-home-residents-norway-die-covid-vaccine-20210115-wuxa3uprrzhrlkcptkgpqqaoiq-story.html

This will surely take sometime before anything would be finalized or going back to normal.

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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
I agree that it will take years to see the same levels in the economy that we had before the pandemic and it will probably take years as well to vaccinate everyone, but at the same time I think that at least in this topic governments are doing it correctly, we need to vaccinate the people that are the most vulnerable to the virus and those people are the healthcare professionals and older people, once those two groups are protected from the virus I think we're going to see a very important decrease in the number of deaths during this pandemic.
Let's hope that the next winter humanity will meet already fully armed and will be able to extinguish the planned wave in the bud. The most important task now is really to minimize the number of deaths in at-risk groups. Although some states are already thinking about full vaccination by the summer season, but there are pitfalls and a lot depends on the size of the state itself and the consciousness of the population. Also, only after about six months, the real effectiveness of the vaccines used will be understood.
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January 18, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
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Youre not kidding when you say how difficult this now 2nd Lockdown for Covid 19 is. And to think we might have a 3rd Lockdown if things dont get better.
But this is something we were all warned from our governments that we should expect it to be like this and to not be surprised when were forced to remain in our homes.   
Many businesses that I would go to when we were in Stage 1 are now closed making it more difficult to find items needed during our 2nd Lockdown.
It will not be difficult if we will listen to the scientific community, if they want us to stay indoors and avoid crowded places then we should do so, if they want to us to wear mask when going out in public then we should do so, you are in no right to endanger others because you are trying to exercise your right to not wear a mask. There are some things that are out of our control though, one example of them and by far is the biggest is the incompetence of the government. If we continue to ignore science then we might as well get a third lockdown.
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January 18, 2021, 04:01:24 AM
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Let's hope that the next winter humanity will meet already fully armed and will be able to extinguish the planned wave in the bud. The most important task now is really to minimize the number of deaths in at-risk groups. Although some states are already thinking about full vaccination by the summer season, but there are pitfalls and a lot depends on the size of the state itself and the consciousness of the population. Also, only after about six months, the real effectiveness of the vaccines used will be understood.

The vaccination program has fallen behind the targets in most of the countries. Manufacturers such as Pfizer are reporting delays in dispatching the vaccine vials and this means that the vaccination of priority population may take some more time. Till now more than 42 million people have been vaccinated (with 14.3 million in the United States). The number still represents less than 1% of the world population.

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Being from a first world country I suppose everyone is getting complacent now.

A matter of months to beat the main virus.

Sadly where does it leave poor countries?

How long with they have to wait to be free of fear?
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January 18, 2021, 10:31:11 AM
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Being from a first world country I suppose everyone is getting complacent now.

A matter of months to beat the main virus.

Sadly where does it leave poor countries?

How long with they have to wait to be free of fear?

In my country they extended the lockdown for another 2 months but I am bit sure if this going to be enough. It is likely going to take 6 months for most of the people to get vaccinated. It's good that there is a cheap vaccine from Astrazeneca compared to the others, but who knows how fast it can be mass produced for the poorer countries.
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January 18, 2021, 12:35:24 PM
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I'm not against Lockdown, but I don't think some of the regulations implemented by the government are right on target. In making a regulation, of course the government takes serious considerations, including in overcoming economic disparities from every aspect, because as the OP said, not all people have the same economic capacity. Also, in the school system for children, I really don't like it, children have to go to school, albeit with fairly strict preventive measures for their safety
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In my country they extended the lockdown for another 2 months but I am bit sure if this going to be enough. It is likely going to take 6 months for most of the people to get vaccinated. It's good that there is a cheap vaccine from Astrazeneca compared to the others, but who knows how fast it can be mass produced for the poorer countries.

We don't have a choice here. Countries in the Northern hemisphere are not doing well now, and at least until the end of the winter season that will be the case. Hopefully by the end of February the situation will get better (as the temperatures rise). But until then, additional precautions need to be made. The slow pace of the vaccination process is another concern. At this pace, it will take ages to vaccinate everyone.
My country not called with lock down but just labeled with activity restrictions for all people just enough only 7.00 PM have closed activity and never allowed if you are out home, just for two weeks later and never have any good ideas how to stop this covid 19 without activity restrictions where we can go anywhere, I think very boring for student more than one yea have study at home without faced to faced on the school, maybe how boring them without meet with their teacher and their friend.

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We dont have a full lockdown, but have some limitation and curfew. Last week was quite chilly, most of the people stayed at home, number of cases decreased. I hope this fact wont be a signal for relax, thinking that the virus is defeated and continue to distribute vaccine.

My country not called with lock down but just labeled with activity restrictions for all people just enough only 7.00 PM have closed activity and never allowed if you are out home.

We have almost identical situation. People caught by police for being outside in the evening are fined from 500 to 2000 euro. And you know what, that does not help. Still there people outside and the number of cases did not decreased significantly.

 
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We dont have a full lockdown, but have some limitation and curfew. Last week was quite chilly, most of the people stayed at home, number of cases decreased. I hope this fact wont be a signal for relax, thinking that the virus is defeated and continue to distribute vaccine.

My country not called with lock down but just labeled with activity restrictions for all people just enough only 7.00 PM have closed activity and never allowed if you are out home.

We have almost identical situation. People caught by police for being outside in the evening are fined from 500 to 2000 euro. And you know what, that does not help. Still there people outside and the number of cases did not decreased significantly.
Stay at home is not win solution how ever how many time police man and government could stop activities for their people and take fined more than 500 euro for their people, how fair this situation during pandemic and we most hardly how to get job and earn money but government make unfair way for their people, I think more than one year we stay at home but why not give any effect with covid 19 gone, if keep at home more than one months and they out again will get new positive covid 19,

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January 18, 2021, 08:15:54 PM
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Being from a first world country I suppose everyone is getting complacent now.

A matter of months to beat the main virus.

Sadly where does it leave poor countries?

How long with they have to wait to be free of fear?
in this case, not all countries are lucky...
Feeling sorry for the poor countries today is useless. however no country can escape from the current fear even if a rich country. *pray for ourselves and all our respective families

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I'm not against Lockdown, but I don't think some of the regulations implemented by the government are right on target. In making a regulation, of course the government takes serious considerations, including in overcoming economic disparities from every aspect, because as the OP said, not all people have the same economic capacity. Also, in the school system for children, I really don't like it, children have to go to school, albeit with fairly strict preventive measures for their safety
The most important goal of the government is to minimize contacts between large groups of the population, because according to the latest scientific studies, the main route of infection of covid 19 is contacts between sick and healthy people. But how exactly to limit these contacts there are no universal recipes, because the population density, the development of health infrastructure, the availability of free beds in different countries and regions is different.
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