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January 19, 2021, 04:15:10 AM
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Stay at home is not win solution how ever how many time police man and government could stop activities for their people and take fined more than 500 euro for their people, how fair this situation during pandemic and we most hardly how to get job and earn money but government make unfair way for their people, I think more than one year we stay at home but why not give any effect with covid 19 gone, if keep at home more than one months and they out again will get new positive covid 19,

We got in to this situation because a lot of people were earlier refusing to obey the lockdown instructions. If the spread of the virus was kept under control, then new lockdowns were not even required. But that is not the case. There is a section of the population, which refused to obey the instructions. I understand that it is hard on some groups, especially blue-collar workers. But right now most of the European countries are witnessing record number of new infections. At least until this situation improves, the lockdown measures will remain in place.

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January 19, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
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Stay at home is not win solution how ever how many time police man and government could stop activities for their people and take fined more than 500 euro for their people, how fair this situation during pandemic and we most hardly how to get job and earn money but government make unfair way for their people, I think more than one year we stay at home but why not give any effect with covid 19 gone, if keep at home more than one months and they out again will get new positive covid 19,

We got in to this situation because a lot of people were earlier refusing to obey the lockdown instructions. If the spread of the virus was kept under control, then new lockdowns were not even required. But that is not the case. There is a section of the population, which refused to obey the instructions. I understand that it is hard on some groups, especially blue-collar workers. But right now most of the European countries are witnessing record number of new infections. At least until this situation improves, the lockdown measures will remain in place.
I agree with your but if keep at home for one month will got free one month later and never have any lockdown again? I think this virus could bot be die although with any country have take lockdown but when give freedom still have new positive covid 19, now the era we always work at home and do anything in the home, maybe vaccine have publish become solution for covid 19 die and not any positive covid 19 again, we need working and get freedom back after one year without any thing can't we don,

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January 19, 2021, 11:01:36 PM
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I'm not against Lockdown, but I don't think some of the regulations implemented by the government are right on target. In making a regulation, of course the government takes serious considerations, including in overcoming economic disparities from every aspect, because as the OP said, not all people have the same economic capacity. Also, in the school system for children, I really don't like it, children have to go to school, albeit with fairly strict preventive measures for their safety
The most important goal of the government is to minimize contacts between large groups of the population, because according to the latest scientific studies, the main route of infection of covid 19 is contacts between sick and healthy people. But how exactly to limit these contacts there are no universal recipes, because the population density, the development of health infrastructure, the availability of free beds in different countries and regions is different.

Government is trying their best to carry out what they've known would be the best way to lower any contacts between heathy and non healthy citizens inside their jurisdiction.

The problem here is with how the people follows the orders, there are lots of places where the threat of this virus  being taken for granted thinking that they are strong enough not being infected, they are not caring about those weak people who can easily being infected by the virus that being transmitted coming from those so-called strong people. It will keep transmitting if there's no coöperation from everyone especially those places that already been penetrated that deep.

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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.
What is actually surprising is that when a vaccine was discovered, there are currently many mutations of the virus. just like you in my own area there are restrictions for someone to move. For those who work it is advisable to work from home, but many workers who have to work outside are currently leaving their jobs. this is indeed a confused for the government.
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January 20, 2021, 03:41:19 AM
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I agree with your but if keep at home for one month will got free one month later and never have any lockdown again? I think this virus could bot be die although with any country have take lockdown but when give freedom still have new positive covid 19, now the era we always work at home and do anything in the home, maybe vaccine have publish become solution for covid 19 die and not any positive covid 19 again, we need working and get freedom back after one year without any thing can't we don,

If everyone stays at home, then the pandemic could be contained within one month. But we know that it is impractical. There are certain sections of the population, such as the armed forces and medical personal who needs to get out of their residences for work. The best solution to this is to protect the high-risk groups, such as the elderly and those with comorbidity. Hopefully, vaccination to the high risk groups will be completed by the end of March.

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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.

There are still some conspiracy and arguments about this vaccine and it effects across the globe, do a due diligence before you collect one for your system.
The way things are going with the second lock down, things aren't longer funny, school and religious gathering are still close. I hope we get Back how things were before this virus spread.
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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.

There are still some conspiracy and arguments about this vaccine and it effects across the globe, do a due diligence before you collect one for your system.
The way things are going with the second lock down, things aren't longer funny, school and religious gathering are still close. I hope we get Back how things were before this virus spread.
Yeah your right because fake vaccines are available now, everyone have to be careful base on drugs we purchase now in order to fight corona virus, normally these second lockdown is not serious the way I personally expected, but it's needful to take precautions measure to stay in the place work and anywhere we find our selfs, to avoid contamination of covid19. In the aspect of schools its not because of corona virus while everywhere is been lockdown, no, it's because of selfish interest of politicians.


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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.
What is actually surprising is that when a vaccine was discovered, there are currently many mutations of the virus. just like you in my own area there are restrictions for someone to move. For those who work it is advisable to work from home, but many workers who have to work outside are currently leaving their jobs. this is indeed a dilemma for the government.
This is not surprising, because for viruses of this type, permanent mutations are the basis for preservation and spread in the human population, and yet it seems that the level of mutations is not comparable to the number of mutations in ordinary influenza. The most important thing is that the number of these mutations does not exceed a certain limit that can interfere with the protective functions of vaccines, and as for this, it seems that the situation is still under control.
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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.
What is actually surprising is that when a vaccine was discovered, there are currently many mutations of the virus. just like you in my own area there are restrictions for someone to move. For those who work it is advisable to work from home, but many workers who have to work outside are currently leaving their jobs. this is indeed a dilemma for the government.
This is not surprising, because for viruses of this type, permanent mutations are the basis for preservation and spread in the human population, and yet it seems that the level of mutations is not comparable to the number of mutations in ordinary influenza. The most important thing is that the number of these mutations does not exceed a certain limit that can interfere with the protective functions of vaccines, and as for this, it seems that the situation is still under control.
Under control but would really takes time to make an another cure or immune for this one.Mutations can really happen knowing that this virus can affect not only humans but also in
animals as well.

The problem is that when that covid 1.0 had already some vaccine and now that 2.0 which even makes more harder since they would really be going to the start
if the said initial vaccine wont really be that effective against the new one.

Lockdown? Possible into those places that will really be affected with this new wave of a new mutated virus.

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Under control but would really takes time to make an another cure or immune for this one.Mutations can really happen knowing that this virus can affect not only humans but also in
animals as well.

The problem is that when that covid 1.0 had already some vaccine and now that 2.0 which even makes more harder since they would really be going to the start
if the said initial vaccine wont really be that effective against the new one.

Lockdown? Possible into those places that will really be affected with this new wave of a new mutated virus.

It is too early to talk about any of this. Obviously after spreading in to every nook and corner of the world, numerous mutations have been reported for the Coronavirus. But at the same time, none of these mutations have been found to make the virus more resistant against the vaccine or make it more lethal to any particular group of people. Lockdown needs to be implemented in high-prevalence areas, irrespective of whether the mutated strain is present or not.

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When will we really end this, I don't know if you guys will be under the influence. I really need vaccines to get rid of this epidemic, in the country I live in, people are getting settled down and the government is also starting to experiment with vaccines, which really curse viruses.
What is actually surprising is that when a vaccine was discovered, there are currently many mutations of the virus. just like you in my own area there are restrictions for someone to move. For those who work it is advisable to work from home, but many workers who have to work outside are currently leaving their jobs. this is indeed a dilemma for the government.
This is not surprising, because for viruses of this type, permanent mutations are the basis for preservation and spread in the human population, and yet it seems that the level of mutations is not comparable to the number of mutations in ordinary influenza. The most important thing is that the number of these mutations does not exceed a certain limit that can interfere with the protective functions of vaccines, and as for this, it seems that the situation is still under control.
Under control but would really takes time to make an another cure or immune for this one.Mutations can really happen knowing that this virus can affect not only humans but also in
animals as well.

The problem is that when that covid 1.0 had already some vaccine and now that 2.0 which even makes more harder since they would really be going to the start
if the said initial vaccine wont really be that effective against the new one.

Lockdown? Possible into those places that will really be affected with this new wave of a new mutated virus.

I've read somewhere that the vaccine should still be effective against the new variant. The new variant is only more contagious and may be transmitted more easily. Not sure how accurate this is since I'm not from the medical field but so far I haven't seen any claims that the vaccine won't be effective against the new one. So yes, I agree that despite the mutations, it won't catch up to the effectiveness of the vaccines. Virologist should be well aware of possible mutations upon making vaccines. Correct me if I'm wrong on this for anyone who is more knowledge on this.

What's been alarming is its just been said from people at the hospital that the regular tactics they've been doing for covid patients are no longer working like before, so I guess they have to find new ways.
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In the country I am in right now , it’s kind of a half quarantine. The sale of non-essential products has stopped but restaurants and electronic stores are open.
Schools and kindergartens are open but colleges and universities are closed.
Covid-19 has been really rough on everyone specially to the daily wagers, small businesses etc.
If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.
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In the country I am in right now , it’s kind of a half quarantine. The sale of non-essential products has stopped but restaurants and electronic stores are open.
Schools and kindergartens are open but colleges and universities are closed.
Covid-19 has been really rough on everyone specially to the daily wagers, small businesses etc.
If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.
I don't think such quarantine will be effective because even in my country all schools are closed and studying from home or studying online is the solution. Indeed, social restrictions will always be carried out nowadays and therefore, at least more people are doing business online nowadays even shops are only allowed to operate during the day by closing curfews and with a note, every visitor remains restricted and always obliged to apply health protocol. 2021 is a year of hope for a vaccination but what happens is there are still many people who are conflicting with the vaccine itself, at the same time the cases of Covid19 continue to increase this is very worrying.

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Under control but would really takes time to make an another cure or immune for this one.Mutations can really happen knowing that this virus can affect not only humans but also in
animals as well.

The problem is that when that covid 1.0 had already some vaccine and now that 2.0 which even makes more harder since they would really be going to the start
if the said initial vaccine wont really be that effective against the new one.

Lockdown? Possible into those places that will really be affected with this new wave of a new mutated virus.

It is too early to talk about any of this. Obviously after spreading in to every nook and corner of the world, numerous mutations have been reported for the Coronavirus. But at the same time, none of these mutations have been found to make the virus more resistant against the vaccine or make it more lethal to any particular group of people. Lockdown needs to be implemented in high-prevalence areas, irrespective of whether the mutated strain is present or not.

It should highly implemented to avoid more infections, government are aiming to contain the virus but having difficulty since enough

resources is not easy to supply both foods and vaccines to every people that they are governing. It's a tough decision but very needed

to take, second lockdown if really is the best solution  to avoid further damages.
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January 21, 2021, 07:14:18 PM
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In the country I am in right now , it’s kind of a half quarantine. The sale of non-essential products has stopped but restaurants and electronic stores are open.
Schools and kindergartens are open but colleges and universities are closed.
Covid-19 has been really rough on everyone specially to the daily wagers, small businesses etc.
If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.

In my country, the situation is the same, though brought to deep delirium - the work of non-grocery stores and the sale of a non-food group of goods are prohibited. But in large chains where food and non-grocery products are sold, the non-grocery group is tied with a red ribbon and its purchase is prohibited Smiley But these are "trifles".
If we talk about Covid19, then in my opinion, today's vaccination will not give the result that is expected of it. Unfortunately. Firstly, because of the mutation of the virus, and secondly, because of the low level of vaccine effectiveness. Let me explain - expensive and effective - available only for rich countries with a high standard of living. All the rest will use cheap, with low efficiency (40-70%), and this, given the mutation of the virus, in fact will not give a global result. Therefore, it is necessary to adapt - to people, business, the state. Most likely, life as it was before 2020 will never be, or at least not soon. To deny the problem is stupid and dangerous, because you cannot defeat the problem without realizing and accepting it.

PS. I am inclined to believe that within 3-5 years, the entire population will get sick with this virus and its variations, and natural immunity will appear. Only after this is it possible to return to the "pre-coronavirus era"

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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
I agree that it will take years to see the same levels in the economy that we had before the pandemic and it will probably take years as well to vaccinate everyone, but at the same time I think that at least in this topic governments are doing it correctly, we need to vaccinate the people that are the most vulnerable to the virus and those people are the healthcare professionals and older people, once those two groups are protected from the virus I think we're going to see a very important decrease in the number of deaths during this pandemic.
But the question is, would those vaccines hadnt any side effects? We had seen some incidents that do talk about dying on to those who had been vaccinated.

Here are the news;

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/covid-19-vaccination-23-elderly-people-dead-after-pfizer-shot-in-norway/story/428119.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-nursing-home-residents-norway-die-covid-vaccine-20210115-wuxa3uprrzhrlkcptkgpqqaoiq-story.html

This will surely take sometime before anything would be finalized or going back to normal.
That is without a doubt a risk but at least where I live getting the vaccine is not going to be mandatory, each person is going to be free to decide whether or not they want to get vaccinated so at the end you are going to need to take a decision about what you consider to be the highest risk, the virus itself or the vaccine, it is not an easy choice to make and it is up to each person to decide what it is best for them and their family.
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January 21, 2021, 10:11:27 PM
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If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.
There are many people who dont cooperate thats why the virus cant be controlled from spreading. If only people unite to stay at home if there's nothing important to do outside then somehow the number of cases were going to reduced. Im afraid we're going to have another lockdown because of the sars-cov from uk (another variant of covid), they say this is much worse than covid-19. Oh well I think we cant return to what we used to to atleast for the coming days and months.

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January 21, 2021, 11:14:08 PM
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If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.
There are many people who dont cooperate thats why the virus cant be controlled from spreading. If only people unite to stay at home if there's nothing important to do outside then somehow the number of cases were going to reduced. Im afraid we're going to have another lockdown because of the sars-cov from uk (another variant of covid), they say this is much worse than covid-19. Oh well I think we cant return to what we used to to atleast for the coming days and months.
Of course, it is naive to expect an end to the pandemic in the coming days. But as for the rallies, I would like to say that so far this is not such a mass phenomenon that we can talk about contributing to the unwinding of the flywheel of the epidemic. The quarantine rules and other rules are reasonable, but not all governments have the determination to act as harshly as the chinese authorities do, so it is better not to rely so much on the consciousness of citizens, but to pin all hopes on the successful vaccination of as large a percentage of the population as possible.
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January 21, 2021, 11:54:30 PM
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If everyone sincerely follows the quarantine rules , wear a damn mask , stay at home and isolate themselves if they don’t feel good instead of going on stupid rallies and ignoring the pandemic then I think we can do it in a year.
There are many people who dont cooperate thats why the virus cant be controlled from spreading. If only people unite to stay at home if there's nothing important to do outside then somehow the number of cases were going to reduced. Im afraid we're going to have another lockdown because of the sars-cov from uk (another variant of covid), they say this is much worse than covid-19. Oh well I think we cant return to what we used to to atleast for the coming days and months.
Easy to say  for them to be inside of their homes but for the ones who do heavily rely into their work then its really hard to stop out people on not to do things.
For the sake of survival then they would really go to work and on the discipline side or cooperation then this will talk about the protocol.
People should follow on whats mandated or instructed to prevent the spread of virus specially now that new strain had been discovered which is
more contagious and highly spreadable.

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There are many people who dont cooperate thats why the virus cant be controlled from spreading. If only people unite to stay at home if there's nothing important to do outside then somehow the number of cases were going to reduced. Im afraid we're going to have another lockdown because of the sars-cov from uk (another variant of covid), they say this is much worse than covid-19. Oh well I think we cant return to what we used to to atleast for the coming days and months.

That is the case everywhere. Whenever I go out for some purpose, I have noticed that at least one-fourth of the people on the street are without their masks. Earlier the cops were quite strict with the mask wearing protocol and used to impose fines on anyone who would venture out without masks. That situation has changed now. Nowadays I am seeing even policemen without masks in public places.

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