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January 28, 2021, 07:43:40 PM
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In fact, before there is an effective vaccine, China has successfully prevented the spread of the virus in the new museum by restricting the movement of citizens. This is the most effective way without a suitable vaccine. Of course, this will indeed sacrifice the interests of some people. And collective freedom.
Yeah, with the information i heard, i think corona virus started with china, so China suppose to discover the preventive measure before any other country, so telling me or hearing that China prevented spread of corona virus in their way is not bad and it's also good to purchase vaccine that is manufactured by world health organization (WHO) is actually good.

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January 28, 2021, 08:53:18 PM
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In fact, it would be really good if even one vaccine that exists today turned out to be really effective. in my country, there is still a lot of debate about which vaccine is better to choose, from Europe or from Russia, and the government starts to cheat and concludes some kind of agreements with India, where development is only in the plans. It is not clear what is happening, but it seems to me that a bad game is going on at the expense of people's lives.

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January 28, 2021, 10:12:34 PM
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In fact, it would be really good if even one vaccine that exists today turned out to be really effective. in my country, there is still a lot of debate about which vaccine is better to choose, from Europe or from Russia, and the government starts to cheat and concludes some kind of agreements with India, where development is only in the plans. It is not clear what is happening, but it seems to me that a bad game is going on at the expense of people's lives.
I think most of the vaccine is really effective but I'm not very sure with the side effect to our body. Most people are still scare to get vaccinated because they're afraid of the fact that no vaccine can be easily made like that. These vaccines will definitely make our country back to normal and will avoid implementing lockdowns.
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In fact, it would be really good if even one vaccine that exists today turned out to be really effective. in my country, there is still a lot of debate about which vaccine is better to choose, from Europe or from Russia, and the government starts to cheat and concludes some kind of agreements with India, where development is only in the plans. It is not clear what is happening, but it seems to me that a bad game is going on at the expense of people's lives.
I think most of the vaccine is really effective but I'm not very sure with the side effect to our body. Most people are still scare to get vaccinated because they're afraid of the fact that no vaccine can be easily made like that. These vaccines will definitely make our country back to normal and will avoid implementing lockdowns.
The risk from any vaccine of course exists, because no one has canceled allergic reactions or undesirable effects if you are already ill, but still with a healthy body, the risk from vaccination is much less than the risk from complications from the disease itself. Some people may continue to hope that in the second year the evil virus will self-destruct on its own and the pandemic will end, but still the governments of the absolute majority of states have made their choice and this choice is to vaccinate as many citizens as possible.

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January 28, 2021, 11:16:39 PM
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As the saying goes, it takes two to Tango. With that in mind, everyone should remember that the government needs the people's cooperation in order to realize it's common goals with them, and the People need the protection of the government on the other hand. Situations like what happened in the UK happened because the people do not respect the government's orders, so everyone is basically in the gutter right now. Hopefully we all get through this.
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January 29, 2021, 12:55:09 PM
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In fact, before there is an effective vaccine, China has successfully prevented the spread of the virus in the new museum by restricting the movement of citizens. This is the most effective way without a suitable vaccine. Of course, this will indeed sacrifice the interests of some people. And collective freedom.

You are mistaken and strong enough. First, China was engaged in data manipulation, it has already become public knowledge. Secondly, until recently, China tried not to allow representatives of the World Health Organization to enter its territory for an objective assessment. Only not long ago (and already a YEAR since the beginning of the epidemic), such cooperation began. The effectiveness of their vaccine is rather doubtful, primarily the indications of effectiveness. Plus, in recent years, a large number of new outbreaks of infections. In total, the picture is very far from positive ...

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January 29, 2021, 02:53:02 PM
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As the saying goes, it takes two to Tango. With that in mind, everyone should remember that the government needs the people's cooperation in order to realize it's common goals with them, and the People need the protection of the government on the other hand. Situations like what happened in the UK happened because the people do not respect the government's orders, so everyone is basically in the gutter right now. Hopefully we all get through this.
England is very developed country with 100% education ratio and peoples understand how to do and when to do if they are not respecting government orders then surely in many developing countries situation is out of control is nothing issue because here peoples committing suicides as they have no food and no resources for feeding their kids just because of this I am feeling very sad after reading this all now feeling its really hurting very badly around the world.

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January 29, 2021, 03:05:25 PM
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That's the problem, not everyone has savings that can be used when they don't work to support themselves and their families.
their only hope is the salary or fees they get each day.
like America which gave 2 thousand dollars to its citizens who did not work because of the lockdown, of course the impact on the country's economy where the value of the USD would decrease because of this.

The government can't afford a full lock down,  if they will do that, people will loss their job and if they loss their job they will struggle, therefore if they will force that they would need to support the people and that entails big budget from the government, which unlikely to happen.

Vaccine is the only solution, without that the cases will increase in numbers and it will hugely affect the economy.

Vaccines can also be used as a business. Imagine that 1 country needs at least more than 1 million vaccines.
but there is no other choice but to buy it to be honest some countries may be corrupt when the vaccine is received and this is very unfortunate.

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January 29, 2021, 09:59:45 PM
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That's the problem, not everyone has savings that can be used when they don't work to support themselves and their families.
their only hope is the salary or fees they get each day.
like America which gave 2 thousand dollars to its citizens who did not work because of the lockdown, of course the impact on the country's economy where the value of the USD would decrease because of this.

The government can't afford a full lock down,  if they will do that, people will loss their job and if they loss their job they will struggle, therefore if they will force that they would need to support the people and that entails big budget from the government, which unlikely to happen.

Vaccine is the only solution, without that the cases will increase in numbers and it will hugely affect the economy.

Vaccines can also be used as a business. Imagine that 1 country needs at least more than 1 million vaccines.
but there is no other choice but to buy it to be honest some countries may be corrupt when the vaccine is received and this is very unfortunate.


I can even give an example - in Ukraine, they again returned to corruption schemes. As a result, instead of purchasing storage containers and a high-quality vaccine against Covid19 from Pfizer, a gasket company owned by a corruptionist backed by President Zelenskiy, huge sums were transferred from the country's budget. As a result, the vaccine was allegedly purchased. As a result, a Chinese vaccine was purchased, at a price 3 times higher than the market price, and ... the vaccine did not arrive in the country ...

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January 29, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
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The government can't afford a full lock down,  if they will do that, people will loss their job and if they loss their job they will struggle, therefore if they will force that they would need to support the people and that entails big budget from the government, which unlikely to happen.

Vaccine is the only solution, without that the cases will increase in numbers and it will hugely affect the economy.
It depends upon countries, Canada, Australia imposed full lock down once again when the new strain of virus was identified and if you are moving out without any genuine reasons the fine you need to pay is really high, in third world countries yet another lock down is not possible and the governments have no idea how to move forward, if they lock the country again there will be situations like civil war.
Vaccinating everyone is a far distant dream.
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January 30, 2021, 07:04:11 PM
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That's the problem, not everyone has savings that can be used when they don't work to support themselves and their families.
their only hope is the salary or fees they get each day.
like America which gave 2 thousand dollars to its citizens who did not work because of the lockdown, of course the impact on the country's economy where the value of the USD would decrease because of this.

They were very lucky live in Developed Country at this situation. Many people which live in Poor Country really struggle at this situation.
Its like choosing between death by lockdown (no money to buy food) or death by virus. We hope covid19 ends soon by vaccine.

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January 30, 2021, 09:17:05 PM
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Covid19 is really disturbing worldwide, the information passing across because of covid19 second lockdown is very strong, the previous lockdown really affects people especially trader's, entrepreneurs and many people lost their life's and siblings, so since the vaccine for treatment of the virus is out I think government don't have to lockdown countries again for the sake of less privileges in society, life is very difficult for people in rural areas and our leaders are not care to look towards the development or needs of poor's, I think government of some certain countries should remember that all hands are not equal, by following cases of covid19 with precautions instead of shutting down everywhere or making the prevent measures of corona virus to be necessary to people living in such domain, I think it should be more preferable than closing source of less privileges daily breads.

It's very obvious that not all countries at these point will experience second corona virus but due to what is involve in government every country with bad eggs of leaders will use such avenue to bring economy of her country down by embezzling their funds, when looking at the ratio of affected covid19 patients of different countries is not like the way it's in 2019 when corona virus started, even in 2020 so while would government lockdown again to suffer people, my major concerns is for those living in rural area that have no furtherance. Happy New Year In advance, Keep Safe


What you wrote is absolutely true of many African countries. Their governments do not care about the poor. So many people died of hunger in the first lockdown because they couldn't meet their food needs due to the fact that there was no work to do.
The secobf lockdown will cause even more people to die of hunger. I however do believe that a second lockdown is not actually needed. The people have all seen what happened in the first lockdown and they know what's at stake and so they wouldn't risk it. I believe the best thing to do is to ensure the strict adherence of the citizens to the Covid-19 preventive measures.

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What you wrote is absolutely true of many African countries. Their governments do not care about the poor. So many people died of hunger in the first lockdown because they couldn't meet their food needs due to the fact that there was no work to do.
The secobf lockdown will cause even more people to die of hunger. I however do believe that a second lockdown is not actually needed. The people have all seen what happened in the first lockdown and they know what's at stake and so they wouldn't risk it. I believe the best thing to do is to ensure the strict adherence of the citizens to the Covid-19 preventive measures.
They don't have choice it's either they die of hunger or die because of covid. If they are helped by the government then it is helpful for those who are poor. If they have a second lockdown and won't help the poor ones is the same as not having a lockdown if they only leave them die of hunger.
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January 31, 2021, 08:58:15 AM
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The Covid-19 Vaccination Program in Indonesia is entering phase two. This began with President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) being vaccinated again at the State Palace, Wednesday, January 27, 2021

The only hope is a vaccine, many do not comply with health protocols from all walks of life. From ordinary people to government circles.

Hopefully in 2021 the Covid19 Virus will have a cure.
I hope this Vaccine can give a big impact for my country, even though there's a lot of peoples still scared to getting vaccine.
you can't Blame them from thinking over danger because we are talking about Life here and those News that comes these days are really not that good for the Vaccine .

i maybe be at some point scared as well mate but will sure take it for my family's health.
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January 31, 2021, 10:10:57 AM
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I guess that depends from country to country but in many of them lockdown never actually stopped. There were different restrictions more or less all the time. When vaccine appeared that brought some hope it will end soon but now all this situation with lack of vaccines in Europe makes it even worse and less likely to end soon. Now it looks like that poor countries will have big issues how to provide vaccines for their people.
Economy is suffering hard and I'm afraid how are countries are going to look like when this all ends. So many businesses are already at the very edge of surviving, many people lost their jobs or their paychecks were significantly cut. About psychological consequences it's even better not to talk.
I guess that in years that come we will be struggling hard to get our economies back to life but I think that our lives will never be the same again.

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I think it's takes 1 year more before the covid will gone because there is new covid appear and it spreading again to the world again and that is not good, in my country lockdown is not happening again because they banned the international flight but it's already here because they detect last week ago the new cases of the covid here in my country and I hope everything will going to be under control so we can back to normal again.
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January 31, 2021, 01:40:45 PM
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I believe in governments around the world that are working hard to find vaccines, in the country I live with, I also have to implement the 3rd curfew. To be honest, the return of the epidemic The economy is seriously affecting my region's economy, the goods cannot be circulated and the Lunar New Year holidays in Asia are coming and this is really the evil of life right now.









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January 31, 2021, 05:27:42 PM
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I can even give an example - in Ukraine, they again returned to corruption schemes. As a result, instead of purchasing storage containers and a high-quality vaccine against Covid19 from Pfizer, a gasket company owned by a corruptionist backed by President Zelenskiy, huge sums were transferred from the country's budget. As a result, the vaccine was allegedly purchased. As a result, a Chinese vaccine was purchased, at a price 3 times higher than the market price, and ... the vaccine did not arrive in the country ...


Of course there will definitely be someone who will take advantage of this moment even some hospitals in my country are doing business from this pandemic, say a rapid test to get permission to go out of town, and in my opinion some people deliberately use it I do believe that Covid exists but the media here makes it sound very terrible .
Lets hope this problem will be end soon.

I will add on my own - at the beginning of December 2020, I myself fell ill and had been ill with Covid19. There is very little pleasant, it really differs greatly from other diseases, there is actually mortality from the virus, or more correctly - from the chronic diseases that the patient has or the accompanying diseases that have arisen ... I really want to still find a solution to eliminate this disease, but apparently - still For 2-3 years we will have to live with this problem and fight.


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In my country, it's been a year since the lockdown started and it started to make some people really pissed because they are not free to do anything and there is always a fear of getting COVID-19 when you do stuff outside.

It makes the economy for certain people becomes lesser and they can't income from home at all. Well, it also their fault because they don't do health protocol like using masks and such, their ego killing themselves.

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January 31, 2021, 10:44:20 PM
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People suffer more during lockdowns because the government can not really provide all their needs. The economy will be at risk. Why not go into new normal, wearing face shield and mask and extra careful. I dont think its more safe inside. This virus can be avoided through everyone self discipline. Although vaccines are already on the way, we cannot rely on it until proven effective.
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