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January 06, 2021, 09:42:16 PM
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Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot; Pence evacuated, Senate chamber cleared out

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WASHINGTON — Chaos erupted in the nation's capital as supporters of President Donald Trump swarmed the Capitol building, prompting Vice President Mike Pence to be swept to a secure location and the Senate chamber to be evacuated.

The Associated Press reported that one person was shot and taken to a hospital.

According to multiple media reports, the entire Washington, D.C., national guard has been activated.

Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.

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January 06, 2021, 09:54:22 PM
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I don't think the U.S. is on the path towards reconciliation and this was clear when Trump got elected in 2016. Trump is a symptom of the division and polarization, not the cause. The Trump supporters that stormed the building are akin to the radicals we saw in June that set buildings on fire so it is not better to be doing the same violent behavior that was universally condemned back in June from everyone on the right. Trump is responsible for riling up his rabid far right base, this should not have happened. From what I gather though, it does seem like democrats are slightly more enraged at the events taking place today than they were when BLM were mass looting and rioting for months straight resulting in 30+ people dead over the summer. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not too sure what the path forward is. I don't think the average far right Trump supporter is a conservative. They seem to have adopted their own brand of conservatism and created "Trumpism". This means you'll have politicians abandon conservative values and constitutional principles to appease the Trump base for their votes -- see Ted Cruz who nearly committed political suicide today which forced him to immediately tweet condemnations of the rioting. You can bet when he runs in 2024 he'll be asked why contested the election results which resulted in the US Capitol to be invaded. He'll have 3 years to think of an answer though.

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January 06, 2021, 10:19:30 PM
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The mainstream media has normalized Antifa and BLM violence for months, and as I write this the protest has not been about looting, and settings things on fire.
What Democrats don't understand is that the mostly peaceful protest is not just about Trump, it's about having free and fair elections, it's about not becoming a banana republic.

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January 06, 2021, 10:25:56 PM
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January 06, 2021, 10:48:32 PM
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Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...

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January 06, 2021, 10:52:09 PM
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Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...

Yeah, the 45 year old balding white guys with beer bellies and breath that smells like miller lite were really just some 24 year old antifa punks. Let's be real, these were Trump supporters and people on the far right. I'm usually one to defend people on the right because they tend to be treated unfairly, but this entire charade is a dark day for Republicans and the country.
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January 06, 2021, 11:28:39 PM
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Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...

Yeah, the 45 year old balding white guys with beer bellies and breath that smells like miller lite were really just some 24 year old antifa punks. Let's be real, these were Trump supporters and people on the far right. I'm usually one to defend people on the right because they tend to be treated unfairly, but this entire charade is a dark day for Republicans and the country.

Why do you think all Antifa or BLM are young? The guy with horns is probably a BLM protester from Arizona...
Some people say the violence was triggered by the DC police, who may have been ordered to suddenly go hard on peaceful protesters.

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“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”

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January 06, 2021, 11:34:58 PM
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Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.

There is not much to wonder about. Invading the Capitol building doesn't automatically grant the right to usurp power. Rioters will be pushed back, some arrests are likely, reinforcements will arrive, Congress will continue certifying the electoral college votes, and the party of "law and order" will continue its hypocrisy by supporting the wannabe dictator.
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January 06, 2021, 11:42:57 PM
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I totally called it:  Grin
there will be a large number of pro-Trump armed protesters there. I suppose I could imagine them storming the capital, overwhelming the fairly weak police forces in and around D.C., and Trump intentionally not using his resources to stop them, so that they are able to actually disrupt the vote count. This could last for a few days, maybe, before the government apparatus including the military work together to arrest Trump for treason or whatever. Trump would eventually totally fail, but it would be a huge shock to the American psyche.

The D.C. police is notoriously weak, and it was well-known that armed protesters were going to flood the area, so this isn't surprising at all. And Trump is acting like a complete idiot, as usual. His statements (ie. almost supporting the violence) put him right on the line of having people actually be able to credibly come after him for treason, and there is no endgame whatsoever: it's all just self-destructive, childlike narcissism. A popular, competent, and/or well-connected leader would've had some chance of actually succeeding in a coup, or maybe exploiting the confusion to get sufficient public support to stay in power. But Trump is neither popular, nor competent, nor well-connected, and he's a few more stupid words away from the point where the National Guard of the surrounding states are going to come in and arrest him.

I'm no Trump hater -- the Russiagate stuff was nonsense, and grading on a curve I'd say that Trump's presidency has been pretty good --, but he's clearly lost his mind, and Republican politicians who continue to go along with him are committing political suicide. Trump formed a strong, loyal coalition among evangelicals, economic conservatives, social conservatives, the working class, and nutcases, but now all but the nutcases have abandoned him. He no longer has a strong, useful base that politicians should covet. Someone needs to make an image macro of that scene from that Batman movie where Bane is "crashing this plane with no survivors", and he sacrifices one of his own minions; replace the minion's face with Ted Cruz, and Bane's with Trump's.

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I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.

US politics is on a trajectory that is unsustainable and will eventually collapse, but I think that this is more of a symptom of that than anything that will change that trajectory one way or another. It will have a major impact on politics, but things will be mostly back to normal in a few months. This won't actually disrupt Biden taking power or anything.

The longer this lasts, the worse things will be for Trump and Republicans. But even if Trump literally throws his support behind an armed coup (which will inevitably fail), it won't be the end of the Republican party forever or anything.

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January 06, 2021, 11:53:49 PM
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ok so trump requested his fangirls to walk into capital hill and mess with the process.,

well lets translate this to the idiots

trump ordered his warriors to invade capital hill. one of his warriors got shot.
so the question is will trump give that woman a warriors funeral and compensate the family

now lets explain this in normal english
trumps actions caused a womans death via his orders. will trump take responsibility. or will he denounce his association with his fangirl.
will he blame her and say he had nothing to do with it.
will he destroy his own loyal fanbase just to avoid taking personal responsibility for his actions

what you will find out is trump will not take responsibility for his actions. yes he asked people to risk their own health and life and criminal record. but after trump gets the chaos he wants he will hide from responsibility. leaving his fans to fend for themselves alone. being arrested, charged, or worse shot. and trump wont even help them

trump is not your friend he does not care about you.he just cares about create chaos at your expense
dont risk your life or possible future criminal record on a guy that wont take responsibility

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ok so trump requested his fangirls to walk into capital hill and mess with the process.,

well lets translate this to the idiots

trump ordered his warriors to invade capital hill. one of his warriors got shot.
so the question is will trump give that woman a warriors funeral and compensate the family

now lets explain this in normal english
trumps actions caused a womans death via his orders. will trump take responsibility. or will he denounce his association with his fangirl.
will he blame her and say he had nothing to do with it.
will he destroy his own loyal fanbase just to avoid taking personal responsibility for his actions

what you will find out is trump will not take responsibility for his actions. yes he asked people to risk their own health and life and criminal record. but after trump gets the chaos he wants he will hide from responsibility. leaving his fans to fend for themselves alone. being arrested, charged, or worse shot. and trump wont even help them

trump is not your friend he does not care about you.he just cares about create chaos at your expense
dont risk your life or possible future criminal record on a guy that wont take responsibility

Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.

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January 07, 2021, 12:11:48 AM
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Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.

she went there under trumps orders.in military. if your killed under orders of your chief. you get a military funeral and your family get compensation..

lets see if trump acts as a chief. or as a denier

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January 07, 2021, 12:19:13 AM
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Oathbreakers killed an unarmed woman. Stop blaming Trump for her death. When some criminal got killed by the police, there were riots, and Democrats endorsed those.

she went there under trumps orders.in military. if your killed under orders of your chief. you get a military funeral and your family get compensation..

lets see if trump acts as a chief. or as a denier

Trump's orders? What are you smoking? I should probably mean what are you watching... Trump didn't tell anyone to storm the Capitol.
People were pissed off by VP Pence's betrayal, plus the harassment by the DC police. The situation escalated suspiciously quickly.

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January 07, 2021, 12:24:17 AM
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“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”

Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.

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January 07, 2021, 12:37:48 AM
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This nonsense should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

I can't say that I am surprised though. The credibility of enforcing the law was lost over the summer when BLM rioters were allowed to riot and loot without consequence. There were too many irregularities in the election for Trump supporters to believe the election was fair.

If you don't want this kind of nonsense, both sides should play by the rules.
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January 07, 2021, 12:56:03 AM
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“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”

Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.

democrats didnt order that woman to storm the capital
but look at trump blaming the democrats for people being in pain and hurt.

so there it is. proof. trump wont take responsibility. i guess that woman is not going to get a presidential funeral or compensation.

trump played this same game last summer. ordering people to liberate certain states.. then HE called in the military. people got hurt. and he blamed HIS loyal people by calling them rioters

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January 07, 2021, 02:11:43 AM
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Some say that the ones who broke into the Capitol are not Trump supporters, but Antifa, disguised as Trump supporters. We'll probably never know the truth...

Yeah, the 45 year old balding white guys with beer bellies and breath that smells like miller lite were really just some 24 year old antifa punks. Let's be real, these were Trump supporters and people on the far right. I'm usually one to defend people on the right because they tend to be treated unfairly, but this entire charade is a dark day for Republicans and the country.

Why do you think all Antifa or BLM are young? The guy with horns is probably a BLM protester from Arizona...
Some people say the violence was triggered by the DC police, who may have been ordered to suddenly go hard on peaceful protesters.

Trump tweeted:
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.”

I was half joking but even Andy Ngo, who is good about reporting antifa activity, says there is no evidence that antifa is behind this. It isn't hard to believe. Trump was stoking the flames and the fire got out of control.
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Later today both Facebook and Twitter DELETED the President’s call for peace.

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trump banned from twitter for 12 hours
congress/pence rumouring to invoke section 4 of 25th amendment.. to remove trump from office.

what i find funny is that trump made the order saying people should go to capital hill. but his wording was that "we" should do. he even said how HE would go there.. yet while his loyal fangirls went their under his order. he went in the different direction and went home.

he used you fangirls like puppets
if he was such a tough guy. such a leader. he would have walked to capital hill.
if he was such a responsible guy that wanted to delay congress HE should have gone into congress and started singing and dancing around and doing things to cause disruption himself.. just him.

but no. he instead wanted to stand back and let his loyal fangirls take the blame and shame and get in trouble and hurt.

such a callus, self centred man

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January 07, 2021, 03:51:18 AM
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Really is a horrible thing when the party of ‘law and order’ are breaching the Capitol and acting like what they’re doing is fine. Not sure if they understand the irony of calling Antifa a terrorist organization and referring to BLM as the same.

They literally stormed the capitol, broke through doors, attacked police, defaced areas, and so on and so forth. Same thing that they referred to as criminals.

I don't think the U.S. is on the path towards reconciliation and this was clear when Trump got elected in 2016. Trump is a symptom of the division and polarization, not the cause. The Trump supporters that stormed the building are akin to the radicals we saw in June that set buildings on fire so it is not better to be doing the same violent behavior that was universally condemned back in June from everyone on the right. Trump is responsible for riling up his rabid far right base, this should not have happened. From what I gather though, it does seem like democrats are slightly more enraged at the events taking place today than they were when BLM were mass looting and rioting for months straight resulting in 30+ people dead over the summer. To each their own, I guess.

I'm not too sure what the path forward is. I don't think the average far right Trump supporter is a conservative. They seem to have adopted their own brand of conservatism and created "Trumpism". This means you'll have politicians abandon conservative values and constitutional principles to appease the Trump base for their votes -- see Ted Cruz who nearly committed political suicide today which forced him to immediately tweet condemnations of the rioting. You can bet when he runs in 2024 he'll be asked why contested the election results which resulted in the US Capitol to be invaded. He'll have 3 years to think of an answer though.

2021 may not be it, 2022 here we come!

Totally, though there is something a bit different when it comes to raiding the US capitol compared to rioting in the streets and destroying buildings and such. Both events are totally horrible and it’s not okay at all, though I think it is a bit more severe when it happens in the US capitol. May disagree with me there, though I think what I’m saying makes some sense.

Yeah no, Trumpies are not conservatives by any means. They’re just followers of Trump and what he says and does. They do not adhere to traditional conservative / republicans policies at all. Weird.






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January 07, 2021, 04:37:55 AM
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Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot; Pence evacuated, Senate chamber cleared out

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WASHINGTON — Chaos erupted in the nation's capital as supporters of President Donald Trump swarmed the Capitol building, prompting Vice President Mike Pence to be swept to a secure location and the Senate chamber to be evacuated.

The Associated Press reported that one person was shot and taken to a hospital.

According to multiple media reports, the entire Washington, D.C., national guard has been activated.

Some serious shit happening there. I wonder how will it end. I think USA has just passed the point of no returns.

With all the crap that the U.S has gone through and you think this is the end? this is just another day in america buddy, and are we really going to blame trump after he said this - "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!" - twitter trump
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