Covid-19, Lockdown and repercussions

[jaysabi]

I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but does COVID-19 truly need a vaccine? I believe the rate of surviving the virus is more than 95%. I believe developing more effective therapeutic medicines for the illness would be more welcome than the vaccines.

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

[bryant.coleman]

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

That is the problem when people politicize everything. In most of the countries, the political parties used the pandemic to shore up support (possibly at the cost of thousands of lives). Take the case of the United States. The two main political parties took diametrically opposite approaches towards restrictions. The republicans refused to wear masks and conform to social distancing, while the Democrats went too far by shutting down businesses. During this diffiuclt time, unity in administration was needed. But that never happened.

[carlisle1]

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

That is the problem when people politicize everything. In most of the countries, the political parties used the pandemic to shore up support (possibly at the cost of thousands of lives). Take the case of the United States. The two main political parties took diametrically opposite approaches towards restrictions. The republicans refused to wear masks and conform to social distancing, while the Democrats went too far by shutting down businesses. During this difficult time, unity in administration was needed. But that never happened.

As even with this hardship political leaders continue to politicize the situations, instead of embracing each other and find suitable solutions.

They are very busy finding faults from different sides, if only they'll able to lift and tap each others back, it should be a win win for the people that they are serving.

Unity in leadership is very difficult as it was proven in most of the places around the world.

[dimonstration]

No lockdown, just a few restrictions with respect to burials and wedding ceremonies. The truth is that we live here as if nothing has happened. We have taken delivery of some vaccines but even before that, normal life activities were going on. It was either you stay at home and perish from hunger or risk contracting Covid19 whiles trying to find some consumables.

I wonder whats your country, most of the countries experience lockdaown, it's actually 1 year ago when lockdown happened in my country and there are still now record of cases that experience having covid but still needs to bring back the economy in life despite the increasing number of affected. What we just do now is strengthen our health and be safe whenever we go outside.

[Sithara007]

No lockdown, just a few restrictions with respect to burials and wedding ceremonies. The truth is that we live here as if nothing has happened. We have taken delivery of some vaccines but even before that, normal life activities were going on. It was either you stay at home and perish from hunger or risk contracting Covid19 whiles trying to find some consumables.

I wonder whats your country, most of the countries experience lockdaown, it's actually 1 year ago when lockdown happened in my country and there are still now record of cases that experience having covid but still needs to bring back the economy in life despite the increasing number of affected. What we just do now is strengthen our health and be safe whenever we go outside.

Here in India, the restrictions were lifted many months back and the economy seems to be back on track. People are now less bothered about the pandemic. There are multiple reasons for this. First of all, the fatality rate in India has been much lower than the neighboring nations. And at the same time, the vaccination program has been going on nicely and on average more than a million people are getting their doses per day.

[South Park]

Here in our region people are relaxing and because of this the number of infected has increased, people are now comfortable moving around and the economy is now open because our government cannot keep up giving dole out to its citizen, this happens because the vaccines are now coming arriving and the government is now scheduling its people for vaccination.

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

[bryant.coleman]

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

I don't think that the relaxed attitude is due to the availability of vaccines. When the pandemic first started spreading, there was a lot of FUD floating around. But then, the people realized that the fatality rate was extremely low (~0.2%, if we take the asymptomatic cases as well). Also, for young people without comorbidities, the chances of getting hospitalized with COVID 19 is almost zero. And as far as I can see, the elderly and those with comorbidities are still taking precautions. It is the youth who are not adhering to social distancing protocols.

[bitzizzix]

It has been 1 year that the corona virus has entered my country and until now it has not been resolved, from large-scale restrictions in certain locations and other methods that have been implemented by the government are still not resolved.
and all that makes everyone feel bored of living life with limits and rules that are ultimately ignored and make things worse because everyone feels like returning to normal life, and wants to continue to earn income in any way without thinking about Covid-19 by keeping your distance, and Following health protocol, on the other hand everyone wants to continue to exercise their rights in life and on the other hand the government is also working hard to fight Covid-19.
and now vaccines have begun to be distributed by giving priority to hospital workers, state officials and so on, until finally reaching the small community, and hopefully it can be resolved as soon as possible and can live freely and return to normal.

[skarais]

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and now vaccines have begun to be distributed by giving priority to hospital workers, state officials and so on, until finally reaching the small community, and hopefully it can be resolved as soon as possible and can live freely and return to normal.

It is a dream in which it may become increasingly difficult for anyone to return to a normal life without fear of covid infection. I only hope that God always protect me from this virus accompanied by independent prevention effort.

As long as the lockdown is no longer in effect, economic activities will return to life and help people meet their need. We all just need to take care of our own health and fitness to prevent infection. However, nowadays the incidence of infection is decreasing and more vaccination can help reduce the incidence.

[jostorres]

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset.

Now that times are better, yes it can be said but last year when times were dire and things were looking bleak even Bitcoin took a hit and the prices went down quite significantly.

In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

I didn't follow gold prices so unsure if that's true but I don't think we should be discussing Bitcoins in a thread where we have gathered to discuss the problems and trauma faced by all of us during the tough times, some of us are even facing them now.

Someone who been fond of doing parties without any special occasion, I was feeling like living under a rock and still am feeling like it but have managed to ultimately cope with it. I do realize I was spending a lot of money so that's a minor positive though.

[Sithara007]

It is a dream in which it may become increasingly difficult for anyone to return to a normal life without fear of covid infection. I only hope that God always protect me from this virus accompanied by independent prevention effort.

As long as the lockdown is no longer in effect, economic activities will return to life and help people meet their need. We all just need to take care of our own health and fitness to prevent infection. However, nowadays the incidence of infection is decreasing and more vaccination can help reduce the incidence.

Well... I don't think that god can protect you from COVID 19 infection. Only vaccination is capable of doing that. Take adequate security precautions such as wearing of masks and maintaining social distancing, and you should be fine. Anyway, I have noticed an encouragig decline in the rate of onfections ever since the vaccination program started. Hopefully we'll be free of this pandemic by the end of this year.

[SquallLeonhart]

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

[bryant.coleman]

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

Apart from a few irresponsible people hardly anyone is going out if it is not essential. I am working in the insurance sector and my company has allowed us to work from home. Once in two months or so, I go to restaurants to dine with my family or my friends. Apart from that, the outdoor activity is near zero. I feel bad about the restaurant and shop owners who are losing businesses. But at least here in my place, most of the restaurant owners are now concentrating on online delivery of food. And I heard that their business is doing really good.

[Hamphser]

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

Apart from a few irresponsible people hardly anyone is going out if it is not essential. I am working in the insurance sector and my company has allowed us to work from home. Once in two months or so, I go to restaurants to dine with my family or my friends. Apart from that, the outdoor activity is near zero. I feel bad about the restaurant and shop owners who are losing businesses. But at least here in my place, most of the restaurant owners are now concentrating on online delivery of food. And I heard that their business is doing really good.

Closing up physical businesses or simply not allowing crowd isnt really the end of the world.They could always set out other ways or methods for them to continue on giving out service without
violating those health protocols which is now more focusing on online delivery or services out there.

Thats really a good initiative because if you do just let yourself agree with those rules without minding any alternative solution then you would really be ending up on a hard situation.

You should be wise and dont make your effort in the past will go to waste just because of this pandemic.As long you can see some possibility or chances of making profit
then you should head on.

[Sithara007]

There is already covid vaccine now in our country and already start vaccinating the frontliners and other people in the community. But despite of the vaccine I am still have fear to go out because covid patients still increasing now in our country. It's really difficult not  be able to go anywhere that you want because of this pandemic. When will it end?

Have you received 2 doses of the vaccine? Even if you have received 2 doses of the vaccine, you will acquire full immunity only after 4 weeks from the administration of the second dose. And also, you need to remember that the vaccines are having an efficacy of 50% to 95% depending on the manufacturer. So even if you are being administered the best vaccine available, there is still a chance of getting infected with COVID 19. If you want to go out and roam around despite all this, then it is your choice. But I would prefer staying at home for another 6 months at least, until the effects of vaccination are visible.

[Ultegra134]

There is already covid vaccine now in our country and already start vaccinating the frontliners and other people in the community. But despite of the vaccine I am still have fear to go out because covid patients still increasing now in our country. It's really difficult not  be able to go anywhere that you want because of this pandemic. When will it end?

Have you received 2 doses of the vaccine? Even if you have received 2 doses of the vaccine, you will acquire full immunity only after 4 weeks from the administration of the second dose. And also, you need to remember that the vaccines are having an efficacy of 50% to 95% depending on the manufacturer. So even if you are being administered the best vaccine available, there is still a chance of getting infected with COVID 19. If you want to go out and roam around despite all this, then it is your choice. But I would prefer staying at home for another 6 months at least, until the effects of vaccination are visible.

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

[Vishnu.Reang]

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

Everyone is getting overconfident now as the vaccination is in progress. But new lethal strains are being discovered around the world and some of them may turn out to be resistant to the vaccines. For example, the new strain first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus is spreading through Brazil and most of the hospitals are now getting overwhelmed with influx of patients. A few weeks ago, the daily death toll was around 500-600 in Brazil. This has now increased to ~2,000.

[darewaller]

Here in India, the restrictions were lifted many months back and the economy seems to be back on track. People are now less bothered about the pandemic. There are multiple reasons for this. First of all, the fatality rate in India has been much lower than the neighboring nations. And at the same time, the vaccination program has been going on nicely and on average more than a million people are getting their doses per day.

The real question is whether people actually need vaccination because the virus is now almost over barring a few countries where still the virus spread is significant and concerning. I don't understand why they are vaccinating people though because it's just a wastage of money to vaccinate for the virus which is now near its end and vaccines have shown some poor side effects so why even risk injecting the vaccine when you can take minor precautions and within a few months things will be back to normal.

I don't think there was a specific problem I faced during the lockdowns apart from being more conservative and finding ways to kill time and sometimes find ways to earn some money. Even started trading during these lockdowns more seriously and I am among those few people who were able to utilize the time in the best possible ways, but needless to say, the pandemic was fatal.

[Ultegra134]

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

Everyone is getting overconfident now as the vaccination is in progress. But new lethal strains are being discovered around the world and some of them may turn out to be resistant to the vaccines. For example, the new strain first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus is spreading through Brazil and most of the hospitals are now getting overwhelmed with influx of patients. A few weeks ago, the daily death toll was around 500-600 in Brazil. This has now increased to ~2,000.

There are hundreds of new strains, however as you've already mentioned some strains might not be covered from the current vaccines which is frustrating to say the least. As far as I know, the British strain is covered, but research is being conducted about the African one, that appears more contagious and resilient.

[mezzaluna]

Hello! I am from the Philippines and the effects of the pandemic in our country has been very detrimental. It did not only affect our economy as an Third-world country (based from my perspective on how things are running) but it really affected most people who did not have enough savings to face a pending lock down for a long time. The lock down in our country officially started on March 10, 2020 and it already passed its anniversary but our country is still waiting from the government if there would be another need for a nation wide or per region lock down.

I really cannot blame it on the people because all they want and need is to get back to their normal lives in which they could have the necessary money to buy their daily necessities. I also believed that our country lacked the necessary preparations to come face to face with the pandemic because it feels like everything is moving so slow within our country. I believed that our country is ranked last (or near last) within Asian countries that have a good plan with fighting this virus. Its juts sad to see that our government still continue to say that we have successfully mitigated the virus but looking at the number of active cases, nobody can even say if its even called "success"